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| dyncorp | synergy is so awesome thank you keesj | 00:13 |
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| disq | gnuite: stuff like gtk_tool_button_set_icon_widget(button, gtk_image_new_from_icon_name("qgn_toolb_im_showpane", GTK_ICON_SIZE_SMALL_TOOLBAR)); works for me with the qgn icons | 00:15 |
| dyncorp | i have to use the numpad enter key instead of the normal enter key to enter text in xterm tho | 00:15 |
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| gnuite | disq: are there icons for the hardware buttons? | 00:22 |
| dyncorp | for your documentation? | 00:23 |
| gnuite | no, for use in a GtkImage, for example | 00:23 |
| disq | erm, lemme find the dir they're in | 00:24 |
| gnuite | the doc ones are in /usr/share/osso-text/graphics | 00:25 |
| disq | gnuite: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon | 00:25 |
| gnuite | disq: qgn_list_hw_button_down.png, etc.? thanks! | 00:26 |
| disq | yeah, looks like :) | 00:27 |
| gnuite | it'd be a lot easier to find these things if they used consistent names... hard to keep straight between "zoom in", "increase", and "plus" | 00:27 |
| gnuite | disq: is it safe to hard-code those icon names? I don't see any #define's in /usr/include that would map to them... | 00:28 |
| disq | also if they were stock icon constants in hildon rather than seperate image files that would be cool too | 00:28 |
| disq | well, i only did use "gene" and "list" icons, gene probably stands for generic | 00:29 |
| disq | i don't see them changing before it2008 but some of them might not be available in it2006 | 00:29 |
| dyncorp | what is simple way to prevent screen from going dark manually? | 00:33 |
| dyncorp | 770/mistral | 00:33 |
| disq | there's an api to call each n seconds, in the docs somewhere | 00:33 |
| dyncorp | ok ty | 00:37 |
| dyncorp | i have a workaround for the synergy 'Return key invokes onscreen keyboard' problem | 00:38 |
| dyncorp | on the PC host, i enter xmodmap -e 'keycode 36 = KP_Enter' | 00:38 |
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| dyncorp | this maps he return key to the enter key (not affecting my normal work on PC) and it makes work on the 770 / maemo synergy client convenient | 00:38 |
| cesman | crap... | 00:39 |
| disq | synergy is cool :) | 00:39 |
| cesman | it won't see my internal SD | 00:39 |
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| b0unc3 | time to drink | 00:44 |
| b0unc3 | brb | 00:44 |
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| dyncorp | wow i saw a wiki howto for using pressure data. the 770 screen registers varying pressure? | 00:51 |
| dyncorp | http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_UseTouchscreenPressureData | 00:51 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 00:52 |
| dyncorp | hi sbaturzio | 00:52 |
| sbaturzio | dyncorp: Ciao | 00:52 |
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| dyncorp | the synergy workaround (return key to numpad enter) is not such a good idea. the mapping should occur in synergy itself | 00:54 |
| dyncorp | wow nethack is well done | 01:00 |
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| kerwood | I've got a Nextel cell phone and an N800, and I'm following http://maemo.org/maemowiki/How%20to%20Setup%20Internet%20access%20with%20a%20Nextel%20i870%20over%20Bluetooth | 01:22 |
| kerwood | but when I try it, my cellphone announces that it's connected with the N800, then 3 seconds later it says it's disconnected | 01:22 |
| kerwood | Is there a way to specify the BT channel number manually? | 01:22 |
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| sbaturzio | is there a way to remove the splashscreen and to see the boot process on the screen? | 01:32 |
| derf | No. | 01:45 |
| disq | sbaturzio: you can't see boot but you can remove the splashscreen. it's somewhere in /etc | 01:45 |
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| disq | sbaturzio: /etc/osso-af-init/startup-greeting.sh, though be careful not to mess it up, you might have to reflash | 01:47 |
| sbaturzio | disq: so, no boot process... | 01:52 |
| fish_ | why is that not possible? | 01:55 |
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| dyncorp | wow i can't believe how fast 'nogravity' is on the 770... | 02:00 |
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| fish_ | crap | 02:27 |
| fish_ | dyncorp: i just tried nogravity and my n770 rebooted and now it doesnt come up again | 02:28 |
| fish_ | it boots the kernel (i guess) and restarts directly after that | 02:28 |
| dyncorp | boot loop. i am sorry to hear that | 02:28 |
| dyncorp | what OS version? | 02:28 |
| dyncorp | i ran latest nogravity on latest os 2006 | 02:29 |
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| dyncorp | i feel horrible :(. maybe you can reflash | 02:29 |
| dyncorp | note the game is not really playable, i was just amazed at how well it runs considering it's doing 3D bitmapped graphics on a 800x480 screen all in software | 02:30 |
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| bjv | on a 200mhz arm5 core? | 02:30 |
| bjv | :o | 02:30 |
| dyncorp | i had it running with synergy to give me analog mouse control, and i could steer and fire | 02:30 |
| fish_ | dyncorp: me too | 02:30 |
| fish_ | i have also the latest os 2006 | 02:30 |
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| dyncorp | ok i'll tempt fate here and try it again | 02:31 |
| dyncorp | were you using a bluetooth keyboard? | 02:31 |
| fish_ | nope | 02:32 |
| dyncorp | well the | 02:38 |
| dyncorp | ooh dear... the demo and training mission worked | 02:38 |
| dyncorp | ok thought i had a freeze up.. well when approaching any of the objects, speed drops down to about 0.8-2ps | 02:40 |
| dyncorp | when everything is distance i'm getting about 10+fps, which is enough for a space sim type game | 02:41 |
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| dyncorp | hiya. if i am only getting 300kB/s write speed to my RS-MMC (kingston 4x) is that normal? | 03:39 |
| dyncorp | via SSH/SCP | 03:40 |
| JussiP | Yes, it is quite slow on the 770. | 03:41 |
| dyncorp | ok thanks | 03:42 |
| dyncorp | i might try out that kernel that claims to be faster | 03:43 |
| dyncorp | JussiP: do you know of any trick/applet to disable power-save or reactivate every few minutes? | 03:49 |
| JussiP | Sorry no. | 03:54 |
| JussiP | And the slow write speed is probably a hardware limitation. | 03:54 |
| dyncorp | disq> there's an api to call each n seconds, in the docs somewhere | 03:54 |
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| dyncorp | aha http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=backlight | 04:06 |
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| disq | dyncorp: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__Devstate.html | 04:14 |
| disq | osso_display_blanking_pause() | 04:15 |
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| dyncorp | thanks! | 04:26 |
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| disq | it was hard to find though. the docs are messy | 04:27 |
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| disq | took me a good one minute | 04:28 |
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| dyncorp | http://butterfeet.org/maemo/keyboard/btkeyboard-plugin-fix-display-blanking.patch | 04:35 |
| disq | that's dirty :) | 04:39 |
| disq | though so what, we need better apis | 04:39 |
| dyncorp | thanks for the boost | 04:42 |
| disq | btw i think you could get (or initialize) *osso with a little more code | 04:42 |
| disq | is there a way to tell if a keypress event came from a (bt-)keyboard or from the dpad btw? got ideas? | 04:44 |
| disq | i put a bt-plugin option to rdesktop which basically disables menu and home keys (because they're F4 and F5 on a kbd) and leaves only the power key to return to desktop | 04:44 |
| dyncorp | i think you may have mistaken me for someone with a clue | 04:46 |
| dyncorp | no, sorry | 04:46 |
| disq | :D | 04:46 |
| disq | i assumed the patch is yours | 04:46 |
| dyncorp | maybe that guy knows | 04:47 |
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| Tenkawa | hi all | 08:19 |
| Tenkawa | anyone got a updated dl link for the dropbear client? | 08:19 |
| Tenkawa | for the 800 | 08:19 |
| * Tenkawa bought an n800 todayy | 08:20 | |
| Tenkawa | this thing is awesome | 08:20 |
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| * bhima uses openssh on his n800. | 08:25 | |
| Tenkawa | bhima: that would be fine too | 08:28 |
| Tenkawa | the links I had to both packages are broke | 08:28 |
| Tenkawa | also is there an aol im client project out there yet? | 08:31 |
| bhima | GAIM has been ported. | 08:33 |
| bhima | I have a list of repositories, but I'm not sure which one gave me openssh. | 08:33 |
| Tenkawa | gaim? sweet | 08:33 |
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| bhima | ok, bed time. I can't figure out which repository it's in, but it's definitely there. | 08:40 |
| sp3000 | apt-cache policy ssh | 08:41 |
| bhima | You can't install dropbear _and_ openssh at the same time; dropbear installs symlinks to "ssh" which confuses openssh, which refuses to install. | 08:41 |
| sp3000 | http://repository.maemo.org bora/free (or mistral/free) | 08:41 |
| * bhima agrees with sp3000. Thanks. | 08:42 | |
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| Tenkawa | hmm | 08:49 |
| Tenkawa | I have bora/free in my app manager | 08:50 |
| Tenkawa | but it doesnt list most of the packages | 08:50 |
| disq | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ bora/free | 08:50 |
| Tenkawa | oh much better | 08:51 |
| Tenkawa | thanks | 08:51 |
| disq | :) have fun with your n800 | 08:51 |
| Tenkawa | thank ye | 08:52 |
| disq | there will be a firmware update soon that will fix most of the video playback and flash video problems | 08:52 |
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| mlpug | is bonobo included in latest maemo distros? has it been in earlier distros? is it addressing same issue that dbus? is it or will it be substituted by dbus alltogether in maemo or generally in gnome world? | 09:00 |
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| keesj | Hi | 09:42 |
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| sampeson | doh | 10:04 |
| sampeson | found typo in http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/Maemo_tutorial.html#settingup | 10:04 |
| sampeson | first link should be apophis, not apohis | 10:05 |
| sampeson | who to inform_ | 10:05 |
| sampeson | ? | 10:05 |
| sp3000 | bugzilla | 10:05 |
| sampeson | there we go | 10:08 |
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| sampeson | there is already bug about it: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1086 | 10:28 |
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| keesj | Olof: did you ask about xmoto a few day's ago? | 11:52 |
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| Olof | keesj: yes :) | 12:15 |
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| dev | good morning | 12:23 |
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| dev | what is a suitable format,resolution,bitrate for a video to be played with the Media Player on the N800= | 12:23 |
| kulve | let's hope the new sw comes soon and then check that again.. | 12:25 |
| dev | kulve: you mean it makes no sense at the moment? | 12:27 |
| kulve | well, you never know when nokia releases something.. | 12:28 |
| kulve | I'm just saying, that once it's released, you need to check those again | 12:29 |
| dev | ok 8) | 12:29 |
| tigert | dev: I'd use the 770-encode.pl ? | 12:30 |
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| dev | tigert: ah, thx | 12:34 |
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| kerwood | how do i send ESC in Xterm? | 13:48 |
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| melmoth | kerwood: on the n800, the upper button on the left of the screen | 14:01 |
| melmoth | usefull in vi :) | 14:01 |
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| Tenkawa | Anyone got a repository url handy that has one of the ssh clients on it for the 800 unit? | 14:18 |
| Tenkawa | I've found some nice repos out there but not one with ssh (preferably dropbear) on it | 14:18 |
| kerwood | melmoth: Forgive me for being slow, but I can't tell which button you mean. | 14:19 |
| c0ffee | kerwood, it's the first button under the cursor buttons | 14:21 |
| c0ffee | there are three buttons under the cursor buttons | 14:22 |
| c0ffee | esc/menu/home | 14:22 |
| c0ffee | Tenkawa, i have the maemo-extras, garage, and maemo-hackers repositories, and one of them contains dropbear | 14:22 |
| kerwood | melmoth: Thank you very much! | 14:23 |
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| kerwood | c0ffee:sorry, thank you, too! | 14:24 |
| Tenkawa | c0ffee: there a good list of the repos out there? | 14:25 |
| Tenkawa | I have maemo-extras already but not the other 2 | 14:26 |
| Tenkawa | I need to go pick up sd cards today.. just got my 800 yesterday | 14:26 |
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| Tenkawa | any words of wisdom on things to watch for or to avoid in my sd purchase? | 14:27 |
| c0ffee | Tenkawa, in the wiki there is one | 14:27 |
| Tenkawa | as sad as this sounds the stand on this n800 is a huge blessing | 14:27 |
| keesj | Tenkawa: are you able to type when the thing is on the stand? | 14:28 |
| Tenkawa | c0ffee: thanks.. checking the wiki | 14:28 |
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| Tenkawa | keesj: yeah I almost exclusively type that way | 14:28 |
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| Tenkawa | I'm a one handed typer to begin with so it feels natural to me to type on this thing | 14:29 |
| keesj | for typing I would like the device to lean more backwards | 14:29 |
| Tenkawa | yikes this one wiki page is out of date | 14:30 |
| Tenkawa | bora hasnt been released officially yet on this repositoriesdiistro entry | 14:30 |
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| Tenkawa | yikes maemo-gaim is a bit old | 14:36 |
| Tenkawa | dang.. not compat with n800 either | 14:37 |
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| Tenkawa | yay found dropbear | 14:45 |
| Tenkawa | connected in from my n800 now | 14:51 |
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| Tenkawa | this is so neat | 14:52 |
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| Tenkawa | howw do you hit control oor alt on this thing | 14:55 |
| Elleo | hi, I'm trying to get Maemo setup as per the instructions at http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/INSTALL.txt I now have a work system with a GUI displayed in Xephyr, but a lot of packages appear to be missing | 14:56 |
| Elleo | all that is available in the GUI menu is Contacts, Help and MaemoPad | 14:56 |
| Elleo | and pygtk isn't installed (and isn't in the repositories that have been setup by default) | 14:57 |
| Elleo | have I missed doing something? | 14:57 |
| Elleo | s/work/working | 14:57 |
| Elleo | (I used the two automatic installation scripts instead of doing things manually) | 14:58 |
| c0ffee | no, those packages aren't included in the development system | 14:59 |
| keesj | Elleo: I think there are python specific garage project you might find better help there. | 14:59 |
| Elleo | keesj: where would I find that project? | 15:00 |
| Elleo | ah, http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/ ? | 15:01 |
| keesj | I think that is the one yes | 15:01 |
| keesj | after c most apps a written in pyton (that is my feeling atm) | 15:02 |
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| Elleo | well according to that page the packages are in repository.maemo.org which I have in my sources.list, yet an "apt-cache search python" just returns a couple of python2.3 packages | 15:06 |
| Elleo | and they do appear to be there according to the Packages file, so any idea why apt-get update isn't causing them to be found? | 15:08 |
| Elleo | ah, my mistake | 15:11 |
| Elleo | they're in repository.maemo.org/extras | 15:11 |
| Tenkawa | Any of you running 2 2 gig sd cards in an n800? | 15:12 |
| Tenkawa | I think thats what I'm going to put in mine today | 15:12 |
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| Tenkawa | or maybe just 2 1 gig's | 15:15 |
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| Tenkawa | woohoo.. got gaim | 15:32 |
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| dyncorp_ | daimonin would be a great game for the 770 | 15:32 |
| Tenkawa | think the n800 could run something like snes9x? | 15:33 |
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| Tenkawa | think its got the horsepower? | 15:33 |
| dyncorp_ | basically no | 15:33 |
| dyncorp_ | but potentially yes | 15:34 |
| Tenkawa | yeah.. not to mention the plugin porting needed for the graphics engine | 15:34 |
| dyncorp_ | lets try to get people to help Tak with fceu | 15:35 |
| dyncorp_ | although i much prefer snes over nes | 15:35 |
| Tenkawa | heh | 15:35 |
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| Tenkawa | gaim is nice on this thing | 15:37 |
| dyncorp_ | i just did a daimonin UI mockup for 770/800 | 15:37 |
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| Tenkawa | wow this n800 is so cool | 15:38 |
| Tenkawa | dyncorp: nice | 15:38 |
| dyncorp | take it to bars and stuff, you will get chatted-up | 15:38 |
| Tenkawa | that would be a very busy app to try to follow onthat screen though | 15:38 |
| dyncorp | it's a role playing game, things dont change fast | 15:39 |
| Tenkawa | true | 15:40 |
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| bingo | Hi, I have some probleme with flasher-3.0 | 15:49 |
| bingo | when I use it, I have the message Suitable USB device not found, waiting | 15:50 |
| dyncorp | running as root? | 15:50 |
| bingo | but the device is connected and mounted | 15:50 |
| bingo | yes | 15:50 |
| dyncorp | turn device off, unplug | 15:50 |
| dyncorp | start flasher with options (-F image) | 15:51 |
| dyncorp | connect usb | 15:51 |
| Elleo | anyone know what cairo performance is like on the n800? | 15:51 |
| dyncorp | turn on device and hold home key | 15:51 |
| bingo | it's good thank you | 15:52 |
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| bingo | it's the good procedure? | 15:55 |
| dyncorp | worked for me | 15:55 |
| bingo | for me too :-D | 15:58 |
| bingo | I dont touched the home key | 16:00 |
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| dyncorp | Ur-Quan Masters is a faithful port of Star Control 2,.....It's not a real Maemo app yet (fullscreen is only possible from in-game menu, etc). There's no stylus support either. Application Installer -ready packages are available from the homepage though. | 16:08 |
| kulve | bingo: shutdown the device, connect the cable, run flasher, once it says waiting, start the device | 16:08 |
| kulve | no magic there | 16:08 |
| dyncorp | !!! | 16:08 |
| bingo | ok | 16:09 |
| dyncorp | http://koti.welho.com/jkukkone/uqm/ | 16:11 |
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| dyncorp | AWESOME. UQM on 770 | 16:11 |
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| * dyncorp tosses flowers at jussik | 16:13 | |
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| dyncorp | "I can't believe nobody else has soiled themselves over this. Star Control 2 is the best game, of all time, ever. Nothing touches it." | 16:15 |
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| dyncorp | dpkg: error processing uqm_0.5.0-1_arm.deb (--install): package architecture (arm) does not match system (armel) | 16:26 |
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| inz | dyn, _arm means IT2005... | 16:30 |
| dyncorp | ah thanks | 16:31 |
| inz | dyn, and there seems to be no source available, so can't really rebuild... | 16:32 |
| bingo | will maemo be added to the debian project? | 16:33 |
| inz | bingo, maemo is a distribution, that (party) overlaps with debian | 16:34 |
| dyncorp | have requested source (It's GPL) or rebuild from author, maybe another request to jhkukkon@cc.hut.fi would help | 16:34 |
| bingo | hum... | 16:34 |
| inz | bingo, theoretically parts of it (like hildon) could be added, but not sure if it would make much sense | 16:34 |
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| bingo | and the meamo dev plateform? | 16:43 |
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| inz | bingo, don't really see the point in having it in debian | 16:46 |
| Elleo | would be nice if more debian packages were built for maemo though | 16:52 |
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| dyncorp | ur quan masters forum thread on internettablettalk | 16:59 |
| dyncorp | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1506&page=2 | 16:59 |
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| chibiAcyd | is there anyway to play quicktime streams on the n800? | 17:24 |
| ptman | chibiAcyd: mplayer, if it has the right codecs, and binary windows codecs won't do, obviously | 17:25 |
| chibiAcyd | i don't seem to have the right codecs. i'll just have my pc convert it | 17:26 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 19:14 |
| dyncorp | moo | 19:16 |
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| kerwood | Is there a way to "steer" the N800 to use a particular bluetooth channel when connecting through a cell phone? | 19:37 |
| kerwood | My phone report 4 different channels, & I suspect the N800 is picking the wrong one. | 19:37 |
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| dyncorp | me can't help | 19:39 |
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| maddler | kerwood: maybe using hcitools from command line... | 19:47 |
| maddler | never tried that... but... maybe... :) | 19:47 |
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| kerwood | maddler: heh, yeah, was getting up the nerve to try it... :) | 19:50 |
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| Tenkawa | i know its a bit of a heavy app but has there been any projects to port firefox to the n800? | 19:54 |
| Tenkawa | opera is ok but I still prefer ff | 19:54 |
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| dragorn | Tenkawa: Minimo, I think it's called | 19:58 |
| dragorn | Tenkawa: is a moz port of some sort | 19:58 |
| dragorn | Tenkawa: never used it, know nothing about it, but I saw it in a package list somewhere | 19:59 |
| Tenkawa | oh cool.. I'll look it up | 20:02 |
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| Tenkawa | so far I really like this n800 | 20:04 |
| dragorn | i know theres some alternate browser because someone was commenting that the flash plugin didn't work in it | 20:04 |
| dyncorp | flash can be a bad cpu hog | 20:04 |
| Tenkawa | yeah | 20:05 |
| dragorn | oh, i'm not a fan of flash by any means, simply trying to provide some more info :) | 20:05 |
| dyncorp | flash is imo too abstract. makes no use of typical graphical hardware acceleration features | 20:06 |
| dyncorp | well nm | 20:07 |
| dragorn | well, the flash player doesn't. Probably. | 20:07 |
| dyncorp | the point is portability .. nm | 20:07 |
| dragorn | But flash itself is a vector system (among other things, I don't know how the movie player system works) | 20:07 |
| dragorn | so they could make a flash player that renders using hw accel functions. They'd just have to make a huge player plugin that handles all the hw, or make a video driver specific plugin | 20:08 |
| dragorn | from what I've read, they don't actually have access to most of the flash stuff anymore since something happened in acquisitions, which is why there is no 64bit flash, but I dont have the urls offhand to that posting discussing it | 20:09 |
| dyncorp | offtopic... sorry for mentioning it | 20:09 |
| dragorn | meh. fair enough. | 20:10 |
| dragorn | I still think flash could be made faster on the n800 tho | 20:10 |
| dyncorp | can os2006 opera do flash? | 20:11 |
| dyncorp | wow it does | 20:13 |
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| dyncorp | i'm amazed the n770 still costs 349 euro in germany | 20:22 |
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| maddler | dyncorp: WOW! | 20:33 |
| maddler | :) | 20:33 |
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| derf | So how does one do ad blocking with Opera? | 20:54 |
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| dyncorp | you could add urls to /etc/hosts | 20:55 |
| derf | That's particularly un-user-friendly. | 20:55 |
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| Tenkawa | didnt realize you could bluetooth file send on a n800 | 21:08 |
| Tenkawa | nice | 21:08 |
| Tenkawa | although it is darn slow | 21:09 |
| Tenkawa | now if someone ports mt-daapd client functionality to the 800 I'd be reallly happy | 21:09 |
| shackan | Tenkawa, you mean iTunes playlist sharing? | 21:10 |
| Tenkawa | AND streaming | 21:10 |
| Tenkawa | it handles both | 21:10 |
| shackan | I tought canola supported it | 21:10 |
| Tenkawa | canola? | 21:10 |
| Tenkawa | havent heard of that one | 21:10 |
| Tenkawa | ahh | 21:11 |
| shackan | multimedia player for maemo | 21:11 |
| * Tenkawa is looking it up on google | 21:11 | |
| Tenkawa | installing :) | 21:12 |
| shackan | "Canola works out of the box with most UPnP Servers around and also with software using Dmap protocols (Itunes users: version 6 only)" | 21:13 |
| Tenkawa | crap | 21:14 |
| Tenkawa | probably going to fail on itunes 7 then | 21:15 |
| Tenkawa | might as well try it thouh | 21:15 |
| Tenkawa | er though | 21:15 |
| * Tenkawa notes that adding extra flash on this thing really does open up a lot more options | 21:16 | |
| Tenkawa | wow. canola is nice | 21:19 |
| Tenkawa | appears to not like 7 | 21:22 |
| kkito | do you know if the osso-media-server dbus messages are documented somewhere? | 21:23 |
| Tenkawa | yep.. itunes 7 + canola is officialy broke | 21:24 |
| Tenkawa | apple changed auth schemes it appears | 21:24 |
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| dyncorp | which scratchbox-toolchain to install for OS2006 latest? | 21:40 |
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| dyncorp | scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm-0.9.8.5-6 ? | 21:43 |
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| Tenkawa | dyncorp: not sure.. I'm running 2007 | 21:45 |
| dyncorp | http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#Installation | 21:45 |
| dyncorp | outdated docs dangerous for newbs | 21:46 |
| Tenkawa | ouch | 21:46 |
| shackan | sigh, latest granule doesn't compile in scratchbox | 21:47 |
| dyncorp | scratchbox needs a particular kernel in host? (using sidux) | 21:52 |
| dyncorp | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion | 21:53 |
| dyncorp | ah it is related to host kernel | 21:54 |
| dyncorp | the kernel needs VDSO compat enabled in order to run Scratchbox. | 21:58 |
| dyncorp | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/86457 | 21:58 |
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| dyncorp | problem fixed by going down to kernel 2.6.18 | 22:15 |
| derf | Yes, that one's well documented. | 22:19 |
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| derf | They should really add a note to the installation instructions. | 22:19 |
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| kulve | SB works fine with 2.6.19 and 2.6.20 | 22:33 |
| derf | Yes, _if_ you have VDSO comapt enabled. | 22:34 |
| kulve | that's one echo. Does it have some ugly side effects..? | 22:34 |
| dyncorp | so to compile stuff for OS2006 inside scratchbox, i add "gregale" to sources.list? or mistral? | 22:41 |
| dyncorp | Maemo 2.2 Package Repository | 22:41 |
| dyncorp | Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-m | 22:43 |
| dyncorp | inimal-rootstrap.tgz | 22:43 |
| dyncorp | ? | 22:43 |
| dyncorp | aha mistral = 2.0 | 22:43 |
| derf | kulve: It's one echo _if_ you have the config option even enabled in your kernel. | 22:57 |
| derf | Otherwise you need a full kernel recompile. | 22:57 |
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| dyncorp | sbox-config reporting following error | 23:02 |
| dyncorp | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion `(void *) ph->p_vaddr == _rtld_local._dl_sysinfo_dso' failed! | 23:02 |
| dyncorp | then says You have 3 other Scratchbox sessions running! | 23:02 |
| dyncorp | but i don't | 23:03 |
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| derf | Linux fenster 2.6.20 #3 SMP Sun Feb 25 12:32:45 EST 2007 i686 | 23:03 |
| dyncorp | host kernel 2.6.18.6 | 23:03 |
| derf | Scratchbox runs just fine on it. | 23:03 |
| dyncorp | your own compile? what distro? | 23:03 |
| derf | Gentoo. | 23:03 |
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| dragorn | Really? I spent a long time trying to get it to behave in gentoo, and then gave up and installed ubuntu in a vmware image. then spent a while hassling it there, too | 23:08 |
| derf | Aside from the kernel re-compile, it was fairly straightforward. | 23:09 |
| dragorn | Tho all things considered I think I'd rather have something doing that much filesystem weirdness running inside a vmware anyhow | 23:09 |
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| derf | The only other problem I had was actually finding out how to install Xephyr. | 23:10 |
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| derf | Since, even though X is in 300-something packages now, including lots of useful stuff that's now in its own package and not installed by default, that is not a separate package. | 23:11 |
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| * dyncorp tries 2.6.17.13-slh-up-1 | 23:11 | |
| dyncorp | derf, you're doing the rfb stuff? | 23:12 |
| derf | rfb? | 23:12 |
| dyncorp | remote frame buffer - was wondering what Xephyr was for | 23:13 |
| derf | Oh, well, yeah. If you're gonna test on the host, you need a display. | 23:13 |
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| dyncorp | derf, how is that useful? (running on the host) | 23:32 |
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| dyncorp | i soppose the dev. cycle is faster if you run locally | 23:37 |
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| derf | dyncorp: I started dev before I even bought the thing. | 23:40 |
| dyncorp | heh.. did you find a good intro to installing Xephyr? the tutorial says http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXephyr. | 23:41 |
| dyncorp | got the build environment and compiler set up | 23:42 |
| c0ffee | dyncorp, what linux distro? | 23:43 |
| dyncorp | sidux / debian sid | 23:43 |
| c0ffee | there should be a package available | 23:43 |
| dyncorp | aah i see xserver-xephyr and xnest | 23:44 |
| c0ffee | it's the xserver one | 23:44 |
| dyncorp | but i need to put it into the /scratchbox chroot, right? | 23:45 |
| derf | Yeah, actually doing it on Gentoo was easy. Finding out _what_ to do was not. | 23:45 |
| c0ffee | no | 23:45 |
| derf | dyncorp: No. | 23:45 |
| derf | You run it outside. | 23:45 |
| dyncorp | hm | 23:45 |
| c0ffee | on gntoo it's lengthy :) | 23:45 |
| derf | USE=kdrive emerge xorg-server | 23:46 |
| dyncorp | there's a startup script in the tutorial | 23:46 |
| derf | Is the Gentoo command. | 23:46 |
| derf | Notice the distinct lack of anything named "xephyr" in it, however. | 23:46 |
| dyncorp | xephyr running :) | 23:47 |
| dyncorp | maemo UI running! THANKS | 23:49 |
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