IRC log of #maemo-devel for Saturday, 2010-09-18

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Papayawjiphi guys, maybe a stupid question, but i couldn't find the ubuntu-desktop-development-vmware-image. only the ubuntu server edition, which isn't preconfigured. do u know where i can find it?14:03
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airnope, but do you know how to access the power key?14:32
Papayawhipdbus14:36
Papayawhipor you study the "tweakr" source14:40
airbeen looking at powerlaunch but cant find it, will try tweakr, thanks14:41
airhope its the same for maemo4 and 514:42
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DocScrutinizer51MNZ: seen alsaped ?19:24
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MNZalsaped is currently on #maemo (10h 51m). Has said a total of 42 messages.19:26
MNZ:P19:26
MNZno haven't heard of it19:26
MNZgoogle comes up with a bunch of crap, but it's something to do with the N90019:29
MNZhrmm what the heck is alsa-policy-enforcement??19:31
MNZheh so volume and routing is done by this thing eh? /usr/share/policy/etc/current/alsaped.conf19:35
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MNZDocScrutinizer, ??20:22
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DocScrutinizer51MNZ: probably, just found it and hadn't time to check it out20:53
DocScrutinizer51once again Nokia special shit?20:54
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MNZDocScrutinizer51, yup, by the looks of it, it controls volume and some routing functions20:58
MNZthis can actually come in handy... hmmm20:58
MNZbut now I'm not sure what the PA policy module is for. And the more important question is, what the hell is all this policy that needs enforcing?20:59
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DocScrutinizer51MNZ: that's exactly the point. Call it policy or alsa state, no matter what, your app seems nneds to either set it explicitly (means src mods) or you use a concept like ACI21:35
DocScrutinizer51actually I know no other concept like ACI21:36
DocScrutinizer51so it's stll worth it in my book21:36
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DocScrutinizeronce again: no man page, no website homepage, no author, no source, no howto - just pissing23:07
DocScrutinizerwell, alsaped --help works :-S23:08
DocScrutinizergood enough?23:08
DocScrutinizerNO!!!23:08
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MNZDocScrutinizer, the only useful thing I found is the config file23:09
DocScrutinizeryeah, I just scanned a half a zillion google hits for alsaped, all of thise were logs or threads about the config file and headset-button-enabler :-(23:11
MNZhalf a zillion :/ ?23:11
MNZ"About 595 results (0.24 seconds) "23:11
DocScrutinizereleventy23:11
DocScrutinizerhoped to find a google hit with 'gitorious.org' in URL, but no23:12
DocScrutinizerthere's a pkg page about it on garage, which suggests it's nokia closed source23:13
DocScrutinizerwell basically I think it's exactly what I called PFaudio-arbiter in ACI23:14
MNZwhich is?23:15
DocScrutinizera central daemon you talk to via d-bus, and it decides who gets request granted for a certain audio setup23:15
DocScrutinizerwith prioritizing of some alsa scenarios/policies/setups over others23:16
DocScrutinizerhell, even if Nokia opens up the source code, that's not FOSS as it is missing the docs that even a closed source component quite usually needs to be of any use to anybody except the one who wrote it23:18
DocScrutinizerthat's the idea of Nokia about FOSS :-/23:19
DocScrutinizerdump a 40 mio lines patch to mainstream kernel to the community, and that's it. >>here, eat it. Now it's open source<< hell no, it's not even a decent closed source product, as it is missing the user (=devel) manuals23:20
MNZI can't for the life of me figure out what all this policy is doing... two really big policy files for the PA policy mod and alsaped23:25
DocScrutinizer51yeah, a man page would help a lot, no? :-((((23:27
MNZmeh. I feel so unproductive :( sucky feeling, and doesn't go well with the cold23:38
DocScrutinizerhpf-cutoff:                0.0045xFs23:38
DocScrutinizer# Policy is not supposed to touch the following23:39
DocScrutinizer# volume controls:23:39
DocScrutinizer#   hp-dac-volume23:39
DocScrutinizer#   earphone-volume23:39
DocScrutinizer#   headphone-volume23:39
DocScrutinizer.23:39
DocScrutinizer# PA sets the volume23:39
MNZwhat's earphone vs headphone?23:41
DocScrutinizerto me it seems /usr/share/policy/etc/current/alsaped.conf is a hybrid of some form of alias for alsa mixer controls plus several alsa.state files as in /etc/alsa.state and used by alsactl23:41
DocScrutinizerearphone is the handset earpiece23:41
DocScrutinizerI guess23:41
DocScrutinizerheadphones is the plug-in thing (if it's not BT headphones/headset)23:42
MNZah23:42
DocScrutinizer/etc/event.d/alsaped:        exec /usr/sbin/alsaped -p 4 -f /usr/share/policy/etc/current/alsaped.conf23:45
MNZyeah seen that23:45
DocScrutinizermight be worth to s/ -p/ -vbre -p/23:45
MNZhmm I'm going to try that now!23:46
DocScrutinizeralsaped -l is nice23:48
MNZit's not clear where the logging happens though23:48
DocScrutinizerwell, not very nice but at least ...23:48
DocScrutinizerMNZ: yeah :-P23:48
MNZI'm assuming console. lets see23:49
MNZyeah console23:50
MNZremoving headphone = http://pastebin.com/s2yKDx9j23:50
DocScrutinizer22:49:50 alsaped:   numid=23,iface=MIXER,name='ADC HPF Cut-off',values=2                    ['Disabled', '0.0045xFs', '0.0125xFs', '0.025xFs']23:51
MNZI've seen this control in alsamixer before (and in the driver of course)23:52
DocScrutinizerGot context reuest  ??23:52
MNZyeah typo XD23:52
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MNZwhat's 'ihf' ?23:54
DocScrutinizerwhatever it is, it's the largest subsection in alsaped.conf iirc ( [ihf] )23:56
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DocScrutinizerinvisible help file?23:56
MNZInternal Hyper Force23:57
MNZmy suggestion is more plausible23:57
* MNZ pats self on the back23:57
DocScrutinizeryeah, I was about to suggest I Have flatulence, but meh23:57
MNZXD23:58
DocScrutinizer[sink-route]23:59
DocScrutinizer# IHF23:59
DocScrutinizerihf              = @outband_cancellation@23:59
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