IRC log of #maemo-devel for Thursday, 2010-09-16

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tetHi ! I'am conceiving an Hildon interface for a maemo python app. Even it looks extremly ridiculous, i'am having trouble finding a list of the stock icons available on Maemo and how to include these in my app. Can anyone help me finding the right place where this is documented ? I just want to put icons on some hildon.buttons :/ . Anyway thanks for your help :)17:19
lcuktet17:32
lcukI believe (but please dont quote me on this)17:32
lcukthat the pygtk stock items are the right ones17:32
lcukhttp://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/gtk-stock-items.html17:32
tetOk, looking at that right now :)17:35
tetlcuk, "GtkWarning: Error loading theme icon 'gtk-add' for stock: Error opening file: No such file or directory" :(17:37
tetThese icons doesn't look to be included in Maemo :(17:39
lcukhrm17:39
lcuktet, join #maemo, lets see if khertan knows, I recall he spent long time with pygtk17:40
tetlcuk, Thank you very much, i will do that right away. I'am quite sad to spend so much time just putting an icon on a button without importing it myself...17:41
lcukindeed tet17:41
lcuknot sure myself17:42
lcukand have just asked for oyu17:42
tetOh you have asked my question to Khertan ?17:44
lcuk<lcuk> now I found this for him http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/gtk-stock-items.html17:45
lcuk<ShadowJK> I'm pretty damn sure a 5800 wont charge either if you go and fuck up the OS17:45
lcuk<lcuk> but thye arent working, any pygtk devs around Khertan hint hint :P17:45
lcukyes17:45
lcukbut no reaction17:45
lcukperhaps he is looking17:45
lcukor others maybe17:45
tetok :) well thanks, i keep an eye on #maemo17:45
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tetlcuk, sadly no answers to my question. I surrender and will import my own icons within the app package, how sad :/. Thanks for your concern :p18:23
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DocScrutinizerpeople thinking of IRC as a 24/7 first level professional helpdesk with guaranteed response time18:51
DocScrutinizerusually it's even better than that. Sometimes not18:52
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MNZDocScrutinizer, hop on to #alsa will you?23:10
MNZtoo late XD he just left23:10
MNZI was discussing the dmix and PA audio stuff23:10
MNZI'll pastebin it23:11
DocScrutinizerk23:11
MNZhttp://pastebin.com/D06j4vxz23:13
MNZI'll push that coeff setting util now :D23:13
DocScrutinizerweird how people in #alsa seem to counteract ALSA and speak in favour of PA23:30
DocScrutinizerwell, we seen N900/maemo bashing in #maemo as well :-P23:31
MNZI believe he's a ssppyyy >:B23:31
MNZbut what do you make of the convo? We haven't really tested out if PA can be improved (and I'm really bad with all this RE crap)23:31
MNZand he says dmix is a 'botch'23:31
DocScrutinizerwhich really makes me wonder what his point actually been, as he failed to elaborate23:32
MNZI think what he was going at is let PA do what it does best, eat cpu and manage policy23:32
MNZwhich is kinda lame23:32
DocScrutinizeryup23:33
MNZbut he had a good point in suggesting/implying we fix PA or configure the resampler23:33
MNZthough I'm still convinced we should *avoid* resampling in the first place23:33
DocScrutinizersure, but then what makes one player app NEED 48k while another for more obvious reasons would NEED 44.1k ?23:35
MNZsimply enough, files in different sample rates23:35
DocScrutinizerumm yes. but usually (e.g for mp3) you simply don't have *any* particular sampling rate aiui23:39
DocScrutinizerso for the usecases where it really matters it seems simple enough to avoid resampling23:40
MNZAFAIK mp3s do have a sampling rate. How can digital audio even work without a set/known SR?23:40
MNZquick grep through lame's man: "              LAME will automatically resample the input file to  one  of  the23:40
MNZ              supported MP3 samplerates if necessary.23:40
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DocScrutinizermp3 and other compressed formats usually are frequency over time domain format. something like "467Hz, -34dB, 0.231s"23:47
DocScrutinizerI'd be surprised if it would have any hard sampling rate23:48
DocScrutinizerall it has (to my knowledge) is a kb/s data rate23:48
MNZwell, how do we test this for sure :/ ?23:49
MNZand 'soxi something.mp3' shows me sample rate, as part of the info about the mp323:50
MNZI have no idea of how mp3 works but all the tools available seem to point to there being a SR23:50
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