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| joorin | speedevil, you an expert on .desktop file format and what might happen if on has another Version value than 1.0? | 00:33 |
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| joorin | "if one" | 00:33 |
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| * joorin points his turing-detector at SpeedEvil. | 00:38 | |
| SpeedEvil | Sorry - absolutely no clue whatsoever. | 00:38 |
| SpeedEvil | How does that make you feel? | 00:38 |
| joorin | sppedevil, it all started with my mother not letting me become a super star. | 00:38 |
| joorin | speedevil, im getting reports about the desktp shortcut for footify crashing hildon. | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | odd | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Wrap strace round it? | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 00:39 |
| joorin | speedevil, and found otu that Version is "Desktop file Version" and not "Applicatin version". so im trying to understand. | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | the shortcut | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | Can you get it to crash? | 00:40 |
| joorin | starting the application from XTerminal works like a charm. | 00:40 |
| joorin | it has been working just fine on my device all the time, with PR1.1.1 and this might be a problem with PR1.2, if its more picky about actual values in .desktop files. | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | what's the app name | 00:41 |
| joorin | speedevil, footify | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | ? | 00:41 |
| * SpeedEvil waits for HAM to finish. | 00:41 | |
| joorin | speedevil, still no luck getting it into Extras-devel. | 00:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Where do I get it? | 00:41 |
| joorin | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=690230&postcount=66 | 00:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Is there a deb of the whole thing somewhere? | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Oh | 00:43 |
| joorin | speedevil, the deb in that post contains all of it. | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | tl;dr | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of footify: | 00:44 |
| SpeedEvil | footify depends on libogg0; however: | 00:44 |
| SpeedEvil | ... | 00:44 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 00:45 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 00:45 |
| joorin | this is my first attempt at building debian packages so im expecting it to fsck things up in some weird way... | 00:45 |
| SpeedEvil | I turned off all repos other than extras-testing | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | I noticed some other things breaking earlier - that might be the cause | 00:46 |
| joorin | dpkg-deb -c <deb file> gives you the content. | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Though I thought dpkg ignored that | 00:46 |
| SpeedEvil | retrying resetting the app catalogs, and updating. | 00:46 |
| joorin | speedevil, thank you for having a go with it. | 00:49 |
| joorin | speedevil, im a bit stumped when it comes to debugging this since it works just fine for me. | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | Hideously slow net ATM | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | My DSL goes at 128K at times. | 00:50 |
| joorin | speedevil, ack, hard times. | 00:50 |
| * joorin will stop complaining about 12/1.5. | 00:51 | |
| SpeedEvil | That reminds me - I need to get my oscilloscope lead found so I can download scope traces to my newly found linux-scope-trace-graber, so I can run FFT on them, and find out what the interfering signal is on my DSL. | 00:52 |
| SpeedEvil | Sigh | 00:52 |
| joorin | speedevil, ambitious. most people just call support. ;) | 00:52 |
| * SpeedEvil stabs support. | 00:53 | |
| SpeedEvil | If this was 1990. I would call BT, ask to be put through to my local exchange, and I could talk to the engineers, and get useful info. For example - is this problem affecting my neighbours. | 00:53 |
| SpeedEvil | However - this is 2010 - and BT has spun out its engineering and customer-facing sides. | 00:54 |
| joorin | cant you just knock on the doors newxt to your and talk to them? | 00:54 |
| SpeedEvil | So, I need to raise a ticket through my ISP, who then contact BT broadband, who then contact BT, who then contact BT openreach - who despatch an engineer. | 00:55 |
| joorin | if getting neighbour status was interesting, that is. | 00:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Who comes and can't find anything because the problem only occurs around midnight. | 00:55 |
| joorin | wont they send an engineer around midnight? ;) | 00:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Unfortunatley, not. | 00:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Ok. | 00:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Repositories reenabled, update - and still dependancy error. | 00:57 |
| * SpeedEvil is not 100% sure he hasn't screwed something somehow. | 00:57 | |
| joorin | then im guessing this only works because the people that try it are already using some other client and already have ogg and vorbis support installed. | 00:58 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 00:58 |
| SpeedEvil | apt-get -f install | 00:58 |
| SpeedEvil | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Server:WebProxy - I also need to work out. | 00:58 |
| * SpeedEvil sighs. | 00:58 | |
| SpeedEvil | Well - that still gives errors - but footify boots | 00:59 |
| joorin | as in, you get to see the icon in your hildon application view? | 00:59 |
| joorin | and can start it from there? | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | as in I can launch through xterm | 01:00 |
| joorin | ah, ok. | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | I've added it as a shortcut on the desktop now | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | and it starts ok | 01:00 |
| joorin | if you install the .deb, you should get a footify.desktop file in the right place. | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | and starting through the application manager also works. | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Trying a reboot, to see if that breaks it | 01:01 |
| joorin | and youre up to date with PR1.2? | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | I can't imagine why | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 01:01 |
| joorin | so, good tests, this. thank you very much! | 01:02 |
| joorin | then i just need to figure out what went wrong, and if i need to modify my dependency list. | 01:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - that's interesting | 01:03 |
| SpeedEvil | after a reboot - the icon is transparent - nothing there | 01:03 |
| SpeedEvil | when I click it - hildon-desktop dies | 01:03 |
| joorin | oh? very much like what has been reported. | 01:03 |
| SpeedEvil | umm - is it hildon-desktop | 01:04 |
| joorin | i is can haz crash hildon with my 1337 .desktop file. | 01:04 |
| SpeedEvil | [ 9683.010864] pvr: hildon-desktop: cleaning up 90 unfreed resources | 01:04 |
| SpeedEvil | in dmesg | 01:04 |
| SpeedEvil | pvr is the graphics thingy? | 01:04 |
| joorin | no idea about pvr. | 01:05 |
| joorin | PVR means "Programmable Video Recorder" in my world. | 01:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Ok - try stracing. | 01:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Nothing really obvious | 01:08 |
| joorin | i need to sleep soon so ill postpone strace a bit. and since it works on my device, i have trouble understanding what to trace for. | 01:08 |
| joorin | rebooting my device now to see what happens. | 01:09 |
| SpeedEvil | Ok - pastebinit doesn't work either | 01:10 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/hd - strace of hildon desktop before the crash | 01:11 |
| joorin | reboot done, icon still there, application starts without a problem. | 01:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you using qt4-homescreen-loader? | 01:12 |
| joorin | no, plain hildon-gtk, nothing fancy, no Qt at all. | 01:12 |
| SpeedEvil | k | 01:12 |
| joorin | this snippet looks like an event loop of some sort. i cant see anything related to loading my .desktop file. | 01:14 |
| joorin | but thank you for stracing. im perhaps missing somethign obvious here. | 01:15 |
| joorin | speedevil, could you perhaps paste a .desktop file for some GUI application with similar attributes as mine that came with PR1.2? | 01:16 |
| SpeedEvil | where are the .desktops? | 01:20 |
| SpeedEvil | that was starting before pressing the button, till it died | 01:21 |
| SpeedEvil | same dir - hd1 again | 01:21 |
| joorin | usr/share/applications/hildon i think. | 01:22 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/desks.tar.gz | 01:23 |
| joorin | oh, the lot, thank you! | 01:24 |
| joorin | the fmms.desktop file "abuses" the version tag too. | 01:26 |
| SpeedEvil | It's the icon | 01:26 |
| SpeedEvil | replace with Icon=xchat | 01:26 |
| SpeedEvil | and it works | 01:26 |
| joorin | oh? | 01:28 |
| joorin | could you then please have a look at /home/opt/footify/usr/share/icons/footify.png and see if it looks fishy? | 01:29 |
| joorin | i use relative path in link to it, perhaps this makes things too complicated for the poor poor hildon desktop. | 01:29 |
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| joorin | and i use a relative path in the link to the executable too. but that works. | 01:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | It rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 62 May 30 22:56 footify.png -> ../../../../../../home/opt/footify/usr/share/icons/footify.png | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | wc footify.png | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | wc: footify.png: No such file or directory | 01:33 |
| SpeedEvil | Nokia-N900-02-8:/home/opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps# ls -l | 01:34 |
| SpeedEvil | that's in | 01:34 |
| joorin | so, if you change the link to ln -s /home/opt/footify/usr/share/icons/footify.png footify.png | 01:35 |
| joorin | and replace the Icon=footify | 01:36 |
| joorin | might it work then? | 01:36 |
| SpeedEvil | argh | 01:38 |
| SpeedEvil | need to swap out xchat | 01:38 |
| SpeedEvil | woo! | 01:38 |
| joorin | should i interpret that as "It works!"? ;) | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | /usr/bin/gnu/find /opt -name "footify.png" -ls | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | 16461 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 May 30 23:36 /opt/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/footify.png -> /home/opt/footify/usr/share/icons/footify.png | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | 34038 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3575 May 29 18:59 /opt/footify/usr/share/icons/footify.png | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 01:39 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 01:40 |
| joorin | good! thank you! | 01:40 |
| joorin | ill push out a new deb and then ill sleep. ;) | 01:40 |
| joorin | ill mention you. ;) | 01:40 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 01:41 |
| SpeedEvil | Glad that's solved. | 01:41 |
| joorin | if you have the time and are up for it, the new deb is here if you want to try it: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=690747&postcount=67 | 01:48 |
| * SpeedEvil pops hildon-desktops bug cherry. | 01:49 | |
| joorin | yay! or, hang on now... ;) | 01:49 |
| joorin | cooperation for teh win! | 01:49 |
| joorin | time to sleep. have a good one. | 01:50 |
| SpeedEvil | night | 01:52 |
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| burchr | lcuk_hol: o/ | 03:06 |
| SpeedEvil | holistic? | 03:30 |
| lcuk_hol | speedevil that would be holiday | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | Ah. | 03:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | Impressive. | 14:12 |
| SpeedEvil | After this operation, 368MB of additional disk space will be used. | 14:12 |
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| Aranel | Hey guys, My package (turkish-l10n) got 17 out of 10 votes and still not promoted to Extras? Can I say why? And I didn't know if it's even possible to get 17 votes. | 20:32 |
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| SpeedEvil | 17 more people clicked ^than down | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | I think it may take some time | 21:00 |
| SpeedEvil | how long ago did it hit 10? | 21:00 |
| frals | need to stay in -testing for 10days as well | 21:01 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 21:02 |
| Aranel | thanks =) It seems It's a new rule isn't it? :) I was surprised to see it. | 21:03 |
| frals | nah not a new rule :) | 21:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Can I used flasher to work out what the cmdline is by default? | 21:07 |
| SpeedEvil | oh | 21:07 |
| SpeedEvil | cat /proc/cmdline | 21:07 |
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