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| tongtong | im looking at http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/signalsandslots.html and i wonder what's up with "The slots are called in the order they have been connected to the same signal." and "The slots will be called in arbitrary order." further down in the annotated example. Is there os isnt there a determininistic order in which the slots will be called? | 13:18 |
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| tongtong | "deterministic" | 13:18 |
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| lcuk | tongtong, it would be sensible to use addition order (thats how i would do it..) speak in #qt-maemo or #qt itself and get a definitiative answer or at least raise a bug about the ambiguity | 13:23 |
| tongtong | ok. | 13:24 |
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| dymaxion_ | hi, anyone used maemo-flasher on Fedora 64bit? The tarball in the downloads has a 32bit version which doesn't run.... does anyone know where the source for maemo-flasher is? or can point me in the right direction... thanks (N900) | 19:31 |
| frals | i think its closed source | 19:32 |
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| dymaxion_ | so any ideas therefore how I can flash my N900 the OTA update fails... | 19:45 |
| dymaxion_ | presumably rootfs full.. | 19:46 |
| dymaxion_ | wouldn't mind just wiping the whole darn device and starting again! | 19:46 |
| dymaxion_ | prob is flasher doesn't work with my linux distro... and I don't have any windows machines at home... nor work! | 19:46 |
| dymaxion_ | suppose could download a live debian CD of some sort?? | 19:46 |
| frals | ubuntu livecd works with flasher at least | 19:47 |
| frals | thats what i did since it refused to work on win7 x64 | 19:47 |
| frals | otherwise i think virtualbox supports usb so might work | 19:47 |
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| dymaxion_ | taa | 20:00 |
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| joorin | one of those days. first having trouble connecting to the WLAN, then getting a fudged routing table and trying to best the busybox implementation. but hacking is fun. ;) | 21:28 |
| joorin | with 6KByte of code to scan for devices and get basic information about wireless devices i can fathom how someone manages to use 3MByte to display wireless info. | 21:29 |
| joorin | "i cant" | 21:29 |
| joorin | or, 6KByte binary that is. | 21:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | Library heaped on library | 21:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Instead of understanding and writting a 10 line function - load a 10000 line lib, that nothing else on the device uses. | 21:41 |
| joorin | speedevil, something like that, yes. but then to get it pushed to the repository, that has to be special. | 22:09 |
| SpeedEvil | why? | 22:10 |
| SpeedEvil | It's completely normal coding practice - nowadays. | 22:10 |
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| joorin | speedevil, well, isnt there people manually checking what gets pushed into the repositories? | 22:10 |
| SpeedEvil | well... | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes, checking. | 22:11 |
| joorin | taking into account the incredibly stupid partitioning of the device, preserving space has to be a priority. | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | But there is no explict QC - 'this is shit, rewrite it or it doesn't go in'. | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | Not really | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | / is the only bit critically short of space. with optification, applications install in /home - which is 25 | 22:11 |
| SpeedEvil | 2g | 22:12 |
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| joorin | yes, but now, after installing two(2) applications, having used the PGS two times and been tricked into installing the forecast application, im down to 67MByte left on /. pretty pathetic. | 22:12 |
| joorin | "GPS" | 22:13 |
| SpeedEvil | sync | 22:13 |
| joorin | pardon? | 22:13 |
| SpeedEvil | The filesystem does not automatically recover space from deleted files. | 22:14 |
| SpeedEvil | dync forces it to | 22:14 |
| SpeedEvil | sync | 22:14 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - a large fraction of the space is the repository catalogs. | 22:14 |
| SpeedEvil | Install gnu-find, and do find / -mount -ctime -20 -size +100k -ls | 22:14 |
| SpeedEvil | which will list all files over 100k that have been changed since 20 days ago | 22:15 |
| joorin | ok. in my world, sync actually makes writing final, not recovering space from deleted files. | 22:15 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - ubifs is - for moderately good reasons - a bit different | 22:15 |
| joorin | my plan now, since reshaping the root seems dangerous, is to find an SD card and perform som "optification" of my own... | 22:15 |
| joorin | i wouldnt mind having apt* perform its staging there instead of on the root. | 22:16 |
| joorin | and save whatever it need there too. | 22:17 |
| joorin | class10 microSD seems fast enough. | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - find is your friend | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | it's as fast for read or wqrite | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | for read, rather | 22:17 |
| SpeedEvil | maybe slightl slower on write | 22:17 |
| joorin | if you make the blocks smaller, it degrades quickly, sadly. | 22:18 |
| joorin | but, thats for another day. now im trying to eat and understans the statistics API of iwlib. | 22:18 |
| joorin | for something thats part of a very popular part of the kernel, finding documentation was harder than i thought. | 22:19 |
| joorin | and actually putting at least one line of comments above every deklaration was too much work... | 22:21 |
| joorin | so soon ill have to figure out what happens if i ask apt-get for source. | 22:22 |
| joorin | or stumble on that special page ona da internet. | 22:28 |
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