IRC log of #maemo-devel for Sunday, 2010-04-18

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redoubtablehow can I launch the accounts app with the new contact dialog already filled up with some values?01:24
redoubtableI was trying to use the maemo wizard instead of using the evolution api01:24
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PortaLuhow relevant is diablo to fremantle?#02:15
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assahi! i'm very new to all this. i wonder if it is possible to check if a call is ongoing with dbus-send?02:39
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SpeedEvilThere are ce...03:23
SpeedEviloh03:23
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_Lucretia_SpeedEvil: ?03:39
_Lucretia_SpeedEvil: btw, if you were responding to portalu, that's me03:39
SpeedEvil(12:39:37 AM) assa: hi! i'm very new to all this. i wonder if it is possible to check if a call is ongoing with04:13
SpeedEvil `was going to say there are dbnus events for start  and end - biut...04:14
_Lucretia_ah04:35
* _Lucretia_ was hoping you were gonna answer my question04:35
_Lucretia_:D04:35
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_Lucretia_which version of the arm-eabi is maemo using? Going from the output of g++ (--target=arm-none-linux-gnueabi) which indicates the oabi, and readelf -h and file shows "version 1" and also "Version5 EABI" - I'm confused20:46
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achipaany MADDE devs around ?21:56
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lcukall developers are mad21:59
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achipabut some are MADDEr22:00
achipa:)22:00
_Lucretia_can someone tell which abi the maemo tools adhere to?22:10
joorinLucretia, the wrong one.22:11
_Lucretia_so it's the oabi or gnueabi, not the new eabi with the speedups for floating point, stacks, etc?22:12
_Lucretia_joorin: and the exception model is sjlj rather than dwarf tables?22:14
joorin lucretia, stick to assembler, no exceptions to handle...22:17
_Lucretia_no thanks22:17
_Lucretia_want to get a different compiler going22:17
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joorinlucretia, the libs that accompany the native gcc gives you the ABI information.22:19
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joorinlucretia, the SDK depends on a bootstrap that you can get. i downloaded it and am using it now to compile on the device.22:20
Lu_N900joorin i'm also here22:21
joorinlu_n900, good for you.22:21
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joorinlucretia, but im slowly losing the will to comply to all this Debian...22:25
kkitohello, do you know where is the upstart-job package?22:26
joorinkkito, im sure there is a debian search command for packages.22:31
joorin(after reading all the flames about how .deb PWNS .rpm im sure there is.)22:31
kkitothe problem is that upstart-job is a dependency for avahi-daemon and other packages, but upstart-job is not in the repos22:32
joorinkkito, in that case google is your friend.22:36
joorinkkito, depending on your level of crazy you can always force the install and check whats missing at startup.22:41
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Lu_N900joorin, do you know if they're moving to the new abi at all?22:54
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joorin lu_n900, i think you need to be much closer to the Nokia people than i am to know that.23:08
lcukwhich abi23:12
joorinlo_n900, as is stands, the N900 is the vecy coolest hand held device there is with the less helped developer community,...23:13
joorinlu_n900, all the "How do i make application" threads in the forum should be enough.23:14
Lu_N900right. will look into those23:27
Lu_N900yeah nokia just never helps out much in my experience23:27
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