IRC log of #maemo-devel for Tuesday, 2010-04-06

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Stewart_anyone around to help me with some autobuilder/deb issues?02:57
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ruskiedid anyone manage to install espeakcaller or what's that tool... for me each time it tries to install the whole system reboots09:41
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Pvt_RyanHey, I just downloaded the SDK VM and when I try to follow the UI tutorial I am seeing "unresolved inclusion <hildon/hildon.h>" anyone know why this is?10:42
Pvt_Ryanor better yet how to fix it?10:43
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swc|666missing hildon dev header???10:58
Pvt_Ryani dont know. I got the vm so I assumed everything would be there11:00
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Pvt_Ryanstrange everything seems to compile ok from the commandline, it's just eclipse that isn't producing a binary.11:16
alicemirrorHi I had a similar problem, relating to the inclusions. I found that if you don't insert the correct paths in project properties, in the section where you find the paths to find your sources and includes (in bold)11:19
alicemirrorif not specified, you must include manually, but I don't have exactly in mind why.11:19
alicemirrorIf you try to create and empty project then create also a maemo examples, you see that there is a lot of include paths (sdk and more) where examples project find gui and hildon includes.11:20
alicemirrorOk, now if you move in your new project one of the examples and related local include files (examples are done to be good also standalone)11:20
alicemirrorthen you can't compile.11:20
Pvt_Ryanok thanks, I'll take a peek at that in a bit (boss has arrived so I have to do real work :( )11:21
alicemirrorI think (but not fully verified yet) that this problem can be in eclipse11:21
alicemirrorif you don't install correctly all the plugins, not clearly documented it seems in installation instructions.11:21
alicemirrorIn particular, pay attention to the mica components.11:22
alicemirrorThere are good infos on maemo.org for the single plugins installation and configuration in esbox (eclipse) but there is not (or I don't found it) a global view of the environment.11:22
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lardmandragly: you have been busy :)13:26
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lardmanwhere should libtool be specified in a control file for the autobuilder?13:45
lardmanis that not part of autotools?13:45
alicemirroreeei nel  mondo?13:55
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lardmanam I right in thinking that it's possible to update the SDK to pr1.2 and still be able to build for the pr1.1 firmware that we still have with careful choice of control file deps?14:25
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nad6234hi ppl - and a belated happy easter to all14:29
nad6234i'm having some newbie-type problems setting up my meamo 5 scratchbox  - can one advise?14:29
nad6234i'm getting : sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory14:30
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nad6234i'm following the instructions here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation14:30
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lardmanwhat type of install?14:31
nad6234and installing into ubuntu netbook remix14:31
nad6234ubuntu 9.114:31
lardmanGUI installer?14:31
nad6234tried that one initially, but got the same problem.14:31
nad6234have nuked everything and retried with the separate shell installers too14:32
lardmanwhich instructions are you following? Give me the number from the top of the page there14:32
nad6234http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_on_x86-32_Debian_based_distribution14:32
nad6234number 314:32
lardmanand your error, is that after sb has started up, while it's installing, etc.?14:32
nad6234well, it seems to install ok - i get this error when i login into it:14:33
nad6234sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory14:33
nad6234SBOX_DPKG_INST_ARCH not set.14:33
lardmanso it sounds like you've not got the toolchain installed, and you also don't have a target setup14:34
nad6234not surprised about that!14:34
lardmanthough the first may just be the lack of target means it can't find the toolchain14:34
nad6234could be - how do i check?14:34
lardmandid maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh run correctly?14:35
nad6234no - that fails with the same error14:35
lardmanoutside of scratchbox?14:35
nad6234yes14:35
lardmanodd14:36
lardmanI can't think why you'd get that message outside of sb14:36
nad6234perhaps i'm doing something stupid - i'm a professional c developer, but all this cross-compiling lark is new to me!14:36
lardmanwell basically you'll have to open up the shell scripts and try the commands by hand one by one14:36
nad6234mmm.....14:37
lardmannah, it's a pita to setup, don't worry14:37
nad6234let me nuke the /scratchbox folder and start again...14:37
nad6234actually, i can run the gui-installer and choose the Uninstall option - > then nuke the folder.14:38
lardmanalso make sure there aren't any debs that the system thinks have been installed14:38
lardmanyes, sounds like a good idea14:38
nad6234(how do i check that?)14:38
lardmanum14:38
lardmanapt-cache search scratchbox14:38
lardmanwould give something, though I don't remember the names of all the files14:38
lardmanagain, should be listed in one of the .sh files14:39
nad6234ok - hang ok14:39
* lardman is no expert when it comes to apt/dpkg, nor sb for that matter14:39
nad6234lol - that makes 2 of us!14:39
nad6234the uninstaller seems to be doing its stuff14:40
lardman:)14:40
lardmanis your machine running 64 bit ubuntu?14:40
nad6234no - 32bit (it's a netbook)14:40
nad6234running on an atom cpu (stop laughing!)14:40
nad6234interesting, the uninstaller choked on this:14:41
nad6234su nigel -c "/scratchbox/tools/bin/sb-conf remove -f FREMANTLE_ARMEL"14:41
lardmanFREMANTLE_ARMEL is a target14:41
lardmanmay not exist14:41
nad6234yeah - that would suggest that it does not exist / wasn't setup properly14:41
lardmanyep14:41
* w00t_ shudders at scratchbox :(14:41
lardmanI'd have anothe go with the gui installer, it ought to work14:41
nad6234is that done during the scratchbox install14:42
lardmanno it should happen later on14:42
nad6234perhaps i have some pre-reqs missing?14:42
lardmanI think the steps are: install sb; download & install the SDK (toolchains, rootfs); setup targets, something lijke that14:43
nad6234mmm - i think the GUI installer should do that stuff...14:43
lardmanyes indeed14:43
lardmanbut that's what it's doing, so it may have failed at the end14:43
nad6234rather than using the gui installer, let me do the steps one at a time using the wiki instructions14:44
lardmanor even the beginning if you already had an sb dir, which wasn't created from the .debs14:44
lardmango for it, prepare to pull your hair out ;)14:44
nad6234i'm pratically bald now! - LOL!14:45
nad62341. sudo ./maemo-scratchbox-install_5.0.sh -u USER14:45
nad6234i guess USER should be my linux user -?> nigel14:45
lardmanyes14:45
lardmanalso open up the shell script in a text editor and check what it should have done before you go to the next step14:46
nad6234ok - it's grabbing junk from the 'net now14:48
lardmanI'm off out, best of luck! :)14:52
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nad6234cheets lardman14:53
nad6234cheers i mean14:53
nad6234oh well14:53
nad6234ok - so, according to the installer, it says that scratchbox installed ok14:54
nad6234brb - reboot14:56
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Tuxprobeanyone interested in joining my quests in producing a tvguide for N900?20:02
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Tuxprobesee https://garage.maemo.org/projects/xml-tvguide/20:04
Tuxprobeits close to useable, still needs a few updates in the gui parts - and goal is to create a home-plugin with only current and upcoming airings20:06
Tuxprobebesides that, translations needs to be implemented and if requests are plentyful enough, xmltv grabbers should be implemented as well20:06
Tuxprobeso, if you have any experience in xmltv feed construction or want to take part in translations, answer in the forums 'developers' section for xml-tvguide project!!20:08
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SpeedEvilAre they multiplying?22:45
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Tuxprobewow! ?? xD22:48
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