IRC log of #maemo-devel for Monday, 2010-04-05

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alicemirrorHi from a newbie02:27
SpeedEvilhi02:40
alicemirrorhi :)02:40
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V13hi02:58
alicemirrorHi, someone is interested to participate in development of a new garage project involving Bluetooth technology and radio communication in N900 environment ?03:00
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SpeedEvillike what?03:02
alicemirrorllike a complete platform for a full bt signal monitor, a library and an application interface.03:11
alicemirrorbased on 2.4 GHz signals (Bluetooth, wifi, zbee and more).03:11
SpeedEvilyou porbably can't03:11
alicemirroryou can sett garage.maemo.org/project/btstudio03:12
SpeedEvilthe bluetooth and wlan radios are not open03:12
alicemirrorwhy I can't ?03:12
SpeedEvilthey are firstly largely hardware dedicated to their own protocol.03:12
alicemirrorsorry I understand exactly what do you mean03:12
SpeedEviland secondly the limited configurability they have is not available, because they are running closed software stacks to implement bluetooth or wlan03:13
SpeedEvilyou cannot use any of the radios on the phone to do zigbee.03:13
SpeedEvilIt won't work.03:13
alicemirrorOk, exclude zigbee, It was only an hypothesys03:13
SpeedEvilYou can only do a signal monitor to the extent that the firmware on the BT chip will allow you to.03:13
alicemirroryes this is right.03:14
alicemirrorbut there is a lot of check and useful evaluation you can do extending common bt functionalities to study the bt environment arount the device.03:14
SpeedEvilYou need to first work out what the bt module is - lsmod says bluetooth              53596  6 rfcomm,sco,l2cap,hci_h4p03:16
SpeedEvilthen work out if there are any existing packet monitoring tools.03:16
alicemirrorthere are one or two I found, but there are also other performances that are not in the same object. Obviously I'm searching the widest background I find on the net about other similar projects.03:19
alicemirrora second phase of the project involves also an hardware (a low cost gadget) that give more infos about the other radio signals I mentioned below, but this is another discussion.03:21
SpeedEvillow cost and software radio don't go together03:29
SpeedEvilat least for high bandwidth signals.03:29
SpeedEvilyou need to work out what the bt hardware is. What interfaces it exposes to do packet monitoring. And find out if any software supports this.03:30
SpeedEvilSome of this may not be public info.03:30
alicemirrornon completely public, but I'm member of BT SGI (Special Group Interest) and other networks for security related. In fact I'm collecting, in this first phase, also a documentation area inside the project, with at least what I find useful for development.03:33
alicemirrorsomething is near a hack, I know.03:33
alicemirrorinteresting this discussion, many thanks to spend your time on this. Where are ou from ? I'm in Italy03:37
alicemirrorI go sleep, it's too late !!! (3 in the morning now :)03:42
alicemirrorPlease if you want you can join to the ml or forum of the project or contact me directly at enrico.miglino@ovi.com03:43
alicemirrorbye :)03:43
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Raafat_Hi, all12:49
Raafat_I am thinking of developing an application that enables the user to search for anything by just pronouncing words, the application shall do speech recognition and then show the results to the him/her.  I was hoping to make a proposal to GSOC 2010 with this application. If you have any suggestions or feedback, I would be pleased to hear it from you.12:52
Raafat_on Maemo talk somone suggested integrating social network abilities and sms and calling functions to it ... I would like to discuss the idea with you, if you don't mind :)12:54
w00t_Raafat_: i'd try #maemo first, it tends to be a bit more high traffic12:57
Raafat_thanks w00t  I appreciate your advice13:00
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Tuxprobehiya, im trying to make an appmenu but clicking the title bar does'nt do anything, any ideas why?14:52
Tuxprobein my main window construct i do this:14:53
TuxprobeHildon::Program::get_instance()->set_common_app_menu(*menu);14:53
Tuxprobethe *menu is of type UI_AppMenu, thats prototyped as: class UI_AppMenu : public Hildon::AppMenu14:54
w00t_can you pastebin a bigger section of code?14:57
Tuxprobeoki hang on14:59
Tuxprobemy window: http://pastebin.com/z2Nwj5Jh15:00
Tuxprobethe AppMenu: http://pastebin.com/hi1mSsrj15:00
w00t_okay15:01
Tuxprobethe template im using is more or less the example from the Hildonmm help section15:02
w00t_I know nothing about hildon, unfortunately, but I'm curious why you're dereferencing menu when calling set_common_app_menu15:02
Tuxprobehttp://maemoide.nokia.com/fremantle/index.jsp?topic=/org.maemo.mica.maemosdk.help.api.cpp.maemomm/docs/tutorial/html/sec-Menus.html15:03
Tuxprobein initialization: menu = new UI_AppMenu();15:03
w00t_in that example, menu is stack allocated15:04
Tuxprobe*(new Menu()) makes it an AppMenu&15:04
Tuxprobei see your point but reason is that options must be initialized prior to the UI_AppMenu construct15:05
Tuxprobee.g. 'apply_options' in my code15:05
Tuxprobei tried it either way - it does'nt change anything.. my window DO have the icon of a dropdown menu in the titlebar15:06
Tuxprobebut nothing happens onclick15:06
w00t_I really don't know, then15:08
Tuxprobetried the examplewindow.cc on that tutorial?15:10
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alicemirrorhi to all. someone has some experience in esbox project ?18:43
alicemirrorThank you18:43
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