IRC log of #maemo-devel for Friday, 2010-02-12

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aswatHy everyone !12:32
aswatI am trying to install the maemo 5 SDK on Fedora 12 x86_64 without success12:33
aswati have tried this : http://www.martindengler.com/index.html#2010-02-0312:33
aswatand this : http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/SDK#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_on_Fedora_12_x86_6412:33
aswatwithout succes12:33
fragmenthow far do you get?12:34
aswatI patched the python script12:37
aswatwich has changed12:38
aswatand when I a trying to start the installation script, I am getting this message :12:39
aswatTypeError: QWizardPage.registerField(QString, QWidget, str property=None, SIGNAL() changedSignal=0): argument 4 has unexpected type 'str'12:39
aswatQProcess: Destroyed while process is still running.12:39
aswatNot sure if this as something to do with the QT version I am using12:40
aswatQt: 4.6.112:40
aswatKDE Development Platform: 4.4.00 (KDE 4.4.0)12:40
fralsuh, can you actually pass "str property=None" as an argument in python12:41
aswathow do I do that ?12:43
fralswhat im saying is that code looks borked, but im not sure :p12:44
aswatok12:45
aswatnot sure if the  def parse_options(): is working as it should12:46
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aswatmaybe someone could send me an older version of the script14:06
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aswatOk, I am almost there, beeing behind a proxy, the scratchbox doesn't seem to pass that proxy. Where can I configure proxy for the scratchbox ?14:37
pillar_aswat: search forum nokia, there was a post about that because the image had a nokia proxy by default14:40
pillar_so there was an explanation how to edit that14:40
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aswatok I'll do that14:41
aswatI have tried this : ./maemo-sdk-install_5.0.sh -d -s /opt/scratchbox -m maemo-sdk-debug -p http://HOST:PORT/14:44
aswatseems to be working14:44
aswatinstalled successfully15:02
ruskieI wouldn't be suprised if export http_proxy=http://HOST:PORT/ or export HTTP_PROXY=http://HOST:PORT/ wouldn't have worked15:32
ruskiedoes with most software15:32
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johnqCan someone give me a short hint on how to package python distutils packages?15:52
hrwjohnq: check Debian python packaging policy15:53
johnqhrw: I have a working rules file for debhelper version 7, but that is not available for maemo scratchbox as far as I know. Perhaps I find something on pymaemo.garage.maemo.org15:55
hrwthere is debhelper v7 in extras somewhere15:55
johnqreally? ok, thanks15:55
amigadavejohnq: http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging#Debhelper_715:56
johnqah, now i remember. I tried it but it did not work (or was difficult to use) because of some perl version conflict15:56
johnqamigadave: cool, thanks15:56
amigadavelloks like ‘export SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE=/usr/bin/perl’15:56
amigadavemay help too15:56
johnqit seems to work16:09
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cpasjusteis there a package size limit when installing with hildon package manager ?16:30
cpasjusteruskie , ifreq, thanks for the help, i finally managed to upload wesnoth to devel and install it from hildon application manager :D16:37
ifreqgood to hear . ill test it later then16:38
cpasjusteho crap16:39
cpasjustelittle problem with an option not correctly set :x16:39
cpasjusteso it launch in 1024*768 :x16:40
cpasjustecrap16:40
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johnqit seems that the prefix is set incorrectly in distutils. my scripts are not installed to /usr/bin/ but to /scratchbox/tools/bin16:42
johnqah, here seems to be the solution: http://dz015.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/packaging-a-python-program-for-maemo/16:45
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jeremiah_http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/intel-to-be-part-of-nokias-mwc-press-conference-a-new-bookle/20:43
jeremiah_^^ What do you think this is about?20:44
SpeedEvilfun20:56
SpeedEvilI don't think intel have any embedded non-x86 left20:58
SpeedEvilmultilevel flash?20:58
SpeedEvilother than the obvious I mean20:59
jeremiah_I think it is oFono, but I dunno20:59
SpeedEvilOh - I diddn't know they were involved21:00
jeremiah_Yeah - it's a collaboration21:00
SpeedEvilI suppose a large tablet wouldn't be out of the question - it's a missing element.21:01
SpeedEvilbut I'd have expected rumors.21:01
jeremiah_Yeah, they would not have been able to keep that secret21:02
jeremiah_At least I don't think so21:02
jeremiah_Plus, they shrunk the N900 screen21:02
SpeedEvilfrom 4.3 you mean?21:02
jeremiah_which makes me think they thought big screens won't sell21:02
jeremiah_yeah21:02
SpeedEviland it's been way too soon since the n900 release for a new product cycle21:03
SpeedEvilso it's something kicked off before that.21:04
jeremiah_I heard they were not going to show any hardware in Barcelona21:04
SpeedEvila radical software launch?21:04
jeremiah_Just software21:04
jeremiah_I think oFono would be pretty radical21:04
jeremiah_I mean, moving telephony to IP?!21:05
jeremiah_That is a big deal21:05
SpeedEvil?21:05
jeremiah_Well, allowing you to make normal phone calls with a computer21:06
jeremiah_that is huge21:06
jeremiah_I mean without skype, jabber, etc.21:06
SpeedEvilah21:06
jeremiah_Just a cell network / Internet protocol network interface21:06
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lupine_85jeremiah_: that's, kind of, sip with a cellular gateway, isn't it?21:09
* lupine_85 can do it with his asterisk server today21:10
ifreqlupine_85: yeah guess so.. nothing new21:10
ifreqwe use such stuff @work21:10
jeremiah_It is new if Intel and Nokia develop easy to use tools21:10
jeremiah_That is big news21:10
jeremiah_That means broad adoption and kissing your landline goodbye21:11
ifreqrumours tend to grow21:11
lupine_85nah, landline = reasonable broadband21:11
jeremiah_true. :)21:11
jeremiah_yeah, that is true.21:12
jeremiah_at least until we all have fiber to the home21:12
lupine_85by all accounts, google's going to do the UK for us21:12
lupine_85"yay"21:12
jeremiah_rumors tend to grow21:12
ifreqdont need fiber even.. cable is cool21:13
* ifreq is using eurodocsis 3.0 atm @ home 110/5 line21:13
ifreqand its not maxed out even for down/upload21:13
jeremiah_Are their theoretical limits to Co-Ax cable?21:13
ifreq+stable line no probs21:13
jeremiah_s/their/there21:13
ifreqim using the same cable system as our city cable tv is21:13
ifreqso no need for rewiring stuff :P21:14
ifreqi dunno bout theoretical limits for such stuff.21:14
jeremiah_Yeah, cable is not as future proof as fiber21:14
ifreqhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS21:14
ifreqfiber is much more expensive to get on every house (atleast for older ones)21:15
ifreqand cable lines are everywhere21:15
ifreqjust read docsis3 from the wiki site21:15
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jeremiah_But cable is not everywhere21:17
jeremiah_Lots of places in Europe don't have a lot of cable21:17
jeremiah_Northern Sweden for example, but I suspect Eastern Europe would 'leapfrog' a generation of technology or two if they went straight to fiber21:17
ifreqyup21:18
ifreqquite possib to have fiber on every house when we live21:19
ifreqor some wireless option instead21:19
* frals pets his fiber21:19
jeremiah_heh21:19
ifreqlike in finland there is 450MHz network (wimax)21:19
jeremiah_fiber petter!21:19
ifreqwhich works almost everywhere in fi21:19
jeremiah_Do people have WiMax devices?21:19
jeremiah_Is it popular?21:19
jeremiah_There was a proposal to do that in Sweden, but it was dropped21:20
ifreqoh sorry it was Flash-OFDM based tech21:20
ifreqanyways its not so fast.. but its used on places where you cant get land line21:20
jeremiah_okay, well, that is useful21:20
ifreqi also have one box for backup internet @home (from work)21:20
jeremiah_Since there are lot of places in Scandinavia which are kinda remote. :)21:21
ifreqyup21:21
ifreqmore north you go more remote there is areas :)21:21
ifreqinteresteng tech anyways21:21
jeremiah_:)21:21
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SpeedEvilErr - fibre to the home will cost too21:27
SpeedEvilyou've got a massive infrastructural investment - and maintainance.21:27
SpeedEvilit's not simply free, as it's not copper21:27
ifreqyup it isnt21:33
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ifreqis there any statistics how many times some package has been downloaded from extras* repos?23:26
SpeedEvilI know there is an 'app meter' or some similarly namesd package that does graphs23:28
SpeedEvilI don't know what those are though\23:28
ifreqhmm okay23:31
ifreqill look into it23:31
ifreqhmmhmh23:32
ifreqnope cannot find straight away23:32

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