IRC log of #maemo-devel for Thursday, 2010-02-11

v13I've python2.5 already00:00
v13no ?00:00
blubbik00:00
v13sss00:00
v13It installs there: ./scratchbox/tools/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wifieye/win.py00:00
* v13 gone crazy00:00
blubbiv13: I am no debian guy, and I use the outobuilder or http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging%2C_Deploying_and_Distributing#Creating_Debian_Packages00:03
blubbiv13 oh, you your tool seems to use the python included in scratchbox00:04
v13yes00:04
v13in fact, it is *not* my tool00:04
v13it's cdbs that uses it00:04
blubbiyou might want to change the header to #!/usr/bin/env python00:05
blubbiif cdbs is written in python00:05
blubbi...00:05
v13I've that already00:05
v13cdbs is the packaging tool of debian00:05
v13improvement of old dh_* things00:05
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blubbiah, okay, never used it00:06
v13and just found this:00:06
v13http://www.joaquimrocha.com/2009/12/15/seriesfinale-0-2-1-version-on-extras-devel/00:06
v13"Still, the repository builder kept using Python 2.3 to build the package just like the problem I had on Scratchbox… tried again to push some changes and build it and still: fail! In the end I just gave up using CDBS for the package generation and edited the template of dh_make directly"00:06
v13not encouraging :(00:06
blubbiyou might change the env and throw out the scratchbox python if possible00:06
blubbiv13: overwrite $PATH00:07
v13well.. i could change scratchbox but the builder will also fail00:07
v13so I'll not be able to upload it to extras-devel00:07
blubbimmh, never used cdbs00:07
blubbisry00:07
v13thanks anyway00:08
v13if you package programs cdbs is really cool.00:08
v13Here it is:00:08
v13DEB_PYTHON_SYSTEM=pycentral00:08
v13include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk00:08
v13include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/python-distutils.mk00:08
v13That's debian/rules. nothing more00:08
v13*plus the first line00:09
blubbiv13: try to throw out the scratchbox path from PATH00:09
blubbiPATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin"00:09
blubbithen run your tool again00:09
v13won't it fail when sending this to the package builder ?00:09
blubbinope, I guess not00:09
blubbiwhy should it?00:10
v13how can i change the path there ?00:10
blubbiwith this mod you only prevent your system to see the scratchbox python, which is anyway not much of use00:10
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blubbijust run this inside your scratchbox: PATH="/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin"00:11
blubbithen "echo $PATH"00:11
v13I won't be able to run this on the builder00:11
v13when i upload the source00:11
v13so it will use 2.3 there. no ?00:11
blubbiv13: aaaah damn you have no cluwe what the PATH env does, do you?00:11
blubbiclue00:11
v13oh... i do :)00:11
blubbifine00:12
blubbithen what are you waiting for?00:12
v13look.. when i dput the source to the builder00:12
v13how will the builder get the modified path ?00:12
blubbiv13: okay, now think about it twice00:12
v13?00:12
* v13 thinks00:12
blubbijust try it00:12
v13look..00:12
blubbithen you will see what happens00:12
v13it will work for me ok..00:12
v13ok one mom00:12
blubbian I will guess it will work on the autobuilder00:13
v13export PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH00:14
v13same thing00:14
v13still i don't get how the builder could get the path00:15
v13can you help me on this ?00:15
v13(to understand this)00:15
v13the builder will get the source (orig.tar.gz + diff.gz + dsc + changes). How will it get the PATH?00:16
blubbiv13: you run this tool cdbs in scratchbox?00:18
v13yes00:18
blubbiokay, and it graps the wrong python?00:18
v13seems so00:18
blubbiokay00:18
blubbithought I have no clue how cdbs works it can only get the PATH to python from $PATH00:19
v13yes00:19
v13xm.. or no..00:19
blubbipaste $PATH00:19
v13cdbs may use other methods too00:19
blubbiunlikely00:20
v13can you please answer my q. regarding how the builder will get the path ?00:20
v13(/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/host_usr/bin:/scratchbox/devkits/git/bin:/scratchbox/devkits/svn/bin:/scratchbox/devkits/doctools/bin:/scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin:/scratchbox/devkits/perl/bin:/scratchbox/tools/bin:/targets/links/arch_tools/bin:/scratchbox/compilers/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin)00:20
blubbipaste "which python"00:20
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v13look00:21
v13i've already done this00:21
v13it is 2.500:21
v13from /usr/bin00:21
blubbiokay00:21
v13the alternative of /usr/bin points to python2.500:21
v13/usr/bin/pythont hat is00:21
blubbiwith builder you mean the maemo autobuilder00:21
v13yes00:21
blubbidid you grep the files generated by cdbs for "scratchbox"00:22
v13?00:22
v13cdbs generates the final package00:22
v13here is the doc: http://cdbs-doc.duckcorp.org/en/cdbs-doc.xhtml00:22
v13Common Debian Build System (http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/)00:23
blubbiv13: okay, did you check the files in there containing anything containing a path that incorporates "scratchbox"00:23
v13blubbi... pause for a bit00:23
v13i'm using a method that i've used for debian packages as well00:23
v13and for scratchbox it goes on using python2.300:23
v13which is the python of the scratchbox00:24
v13i don't believe this is a cdbs problem00:24
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blubbiwell, try to build your package like described here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging%2C_Deploying_and_Distributing#Creating_Debian_Packages and see if the problem persists... I have no clue how cdbs works, and I am to tired to look into it.00:25
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v13hey.. i'm thankful for you trying to help00:26
v13I don't want you to look at this!00:26
v13if it doesn't work i'll switch to debhelper00:26
blubbinp :-)00:26
v13FWIW, the cdbs has a DEB_PYTHON_COMPILE_VERSION variable that was supposed to force a specific debian version... no good..00:27
blubbirecompile it with the proper PATH (removing path to scratchbox bins)00:28
blubbior if there is a compiletime switch it would com in handy00:28
blubbitime to go to bed... cu all00:31
v13cu .. thanks anyway00:31
blubbiv13: good luck00:31
blubbicu00:31
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SLiHi. I'm trying to add extras-{testing,devel} to my scratchbox but always hit some errors when doing apt-get update. For armel:02:17
SLiFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch02:18
SLiFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch02:18
SLiAnd for x86:02:18
SLiGet:3 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages [1187kB]02:18
SLi99% [3 Packages gzip 0] [Waiting for headers]02:18
SLigzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error02:18
SLigzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--length error02:18
SLiErr http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:18
SLi...02:18
SLiFailed to fetch http://repository.maemo.org/extras-testing/dists/fremantle/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:18
SLiCuriously if I wget that file from the same scratchbox, gunzip decompresses it fine.02:19
jebbayou could try my mirror in the interim: http://espejo.freemoe.org/02:20
SLiWorks better. Does it mirror nightly?02:26
jebbahourly actually02:29
jebbaor thereabouts iirc02:29
jebbajust has free repos02:29
SLiOk, good. Thank you.02:29
jebbanp02:30
SLiHmmh.02:30
SLiFailed to fetch http://espejo.freemoe.org/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch02:30
SLiFailed to fetch http://espejo.freemoe.org/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/dists/fremantle/free/source/Sources.gz  MD5Sum mismatch02:30
jebbaheh02:30
jebbawell....02:31
jebbaperhaps you got something else goin on.02:31
SLiWell, if it mirrored while broken, it's not surprising it's broken too :02:31
SLi:)02:31
jebbawell, it does mirror it a bit differently right now. It does't use rsync as that isn't going--it uses apt-mirror, which i would think in theory would leave a good Packages.gz02:32
SLiOk.02:32
SLiHm, now repository.maemo.org works ok for at least x86. Guess it was just updating something.02:36
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pupniki would like a scp with null encryption06:17
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cpasjustecould someone "light" me on the online builder ? what does he do ? does it just do a "make && make install", or does it ran configure10:10
scoopr /away10:12
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Jaffacpasjuste: It does `dpkg-buildpackage'10:51
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hrwhi12:06
hrwis there vala compiler in autobuilder?12:14
lcukhrw, i thought vala was available as a package, and hence you just add it as a build-dep?12:42
hrwyep, it is in extras-devel12:44
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hrw27KB package needs to be optified or not?12:49
VDVsx> 500kb, but you can optify it anyway :D12:50
lcukhrw heh12:50
lcukvdv is right, if you are already comfortable with adding it in, theres nopoint not to12:51
hrwok, uploaded mdbus2 to autobuilder12:53
hrw[2010-02-11 12:55:33] mdbus2 2.0.0-1 has been queued for loading into fremantle extras-devel repository12:56
hrwnice12:56
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cpasjusteso, do i really need a configuration file to upload to autobuilder ?  for a data package ...13:36
ruskiehttp://sprunge.us/EdXI <-- can anyone explain why upstart is refusing to even acknowledge that I've added a new script to it? is there some config file or something I need to put it in as well?13:44
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ruskiewell figured that out14:17
ruskieit's just script not start script14:17
cpasjusteis there someone to help me make an autobuilder compatible package for some data, no compilation required14:23
ruskiecreate a normal debian package with sources and stuff... that's really all there is14:27
cpasjustewell i did a big big crappy hack :14:31
cpasjusteall:14:31
cpasjusteinstall:14:31
cpasjustecp -a usr $(DESTDIR)14:31
cpasjusteclean:14:31
cpasjusteis it going to work :x14:31
cpasjustethe deb is correctly built locally14:33
villagerthat should work14:35
villager(if you also do the regular debian package-building stuff of course)14:36
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ruskiecpasjuste, considering all of debian packaging is one big big huge crappy hack14:42
cpasjustewell14:42
ruskiea proper packaging system wouldn't ask me each time what the build system is, or require me to list files that get installed ahead of time14:42
ruskieit would actually say... ow look there's a ./configure file there and it's +x.... so it's autotools14:43
ruskieit would still require adding all the options etc... but that should be a simple var or two14:43
cpasjustei have a 250Mb package to upload to autobuilder, could someone help me find what's really needed to uplaod ?14:48
cpasjustehttp://pastebin.com/m6bdd6d9d  : wesnoth-data-1.6.5.tar.gz is the original archive, and dh_make did the "wesnoth-data_1.6.5.orig.tar.gz" archive i think14:49
cpasjustethey are same size, i only need to upload wesnoth-data_1.6.5.orig.tar.gz to autobuilder, not wesnoth-data_1.6.5.tar.gz ?14:49
ruskieiirc yes14:54
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cpasjustewell this scp crap is falling on the public key15:06
cpasjustewhile its correctly set on both side15:06
cpasjustethis is the biggest horror i never seen to release something :p15:06
ifreqmayb the community is not yet ready for to you or vise versa15:07
ifreq-for15:08
ifreq:)15:08
ifreqcpasjuste: i dont know whats so hard with it as jebbas instructions are quite simple for upload too15:08
cpasjustewell, i'm not really a "noob" with linux and coding porting15:09
cpasjustebut all this crap is crap15:09
cpasjustei just get a permission problem with the public key and scp15:11
cpasjustewhile the public key is good ;.15:11
ifreqhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras15:11
cpasjusteyeah ..15:11
ifreqthis should be pretty straight forward :P15:11
cpasjustei did read it 1028332 time :x15:12
cpasjustescp wesnoth-data_1.6.5.orig.tar.gz wesnoth-data_1.6.5-1.diff.gz wesnoth-data_1.6.5-1_source.changes wesnoth-data_1.6.5-1.dsc cpasjuste@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/15:12
cpasjustedoes it seems to be the right command ?15:12
cpasjustewell, does the scp login is the username is the garage username ?15:12
cpasjustewell, does the scp login is the username in the garage username ?15:13
ifreqstop spamming15:13
cpasjustemy god i can't talk normally anymore :x15:13
cpasjustestop spamming ?15:13
cpasjustewhere do you see some spamming15:13
ifreq15:12 < cpasjuste> well, does the scp login is the username is the garage  username ?15:13
ifreq15:13 < cpasjuste> well, does the scp login is the username in the garage  username ?15:13
cpasjustejust don't do the idiot ...15:14
cpasjustewell i see i won't get anything from you except crap, so you can just put me on your ignore list and we'll all be happy15:15
ifreqmayb its better you chill a bit?15:15
ifreqscp -p *.tar.gz *.diff.gz *.changes *.dsc \15:15
ifreqjebba@drop.maemo.org:/var/www/extras-devel/incoming-builder/fremantle/15:15
cpasjuste...15:15
ruskiebtw why do you have a wesnoth-data.orig15:16
ifreqhave you uploaded the pub key to garage and its been accepted too?15:16
ruskieI thought both wesnoth and data were in the same upstream tarball15:16
cpasjustewell, i did change nothing in my cmd line, but it work now15:16
cpasjusteyep ruskie, but i wanted to split them to be able to update the binary without having to re-download the whole package15:17
cpasjustere-download/re-upload15:17
ruskieso instead of having a single source for both packages it's now one source for one and another for the other15:18
cpasjustewhat do you mean ? :x15:18
cpasjustesingle source ?15:18
ruskiewell apt-get source wesnoth -> would fetch wesnoth-1.6.5.orig.tar.gz which would include both the sources and the data15:19
ruskiebut now this won't be the case... it will only fetch the sources15:19
cpasjusteyes15:19
cpasjustethis will brake some things ?15:19
ruskieshouldn't it's just pointless15:19
ifreqruskie: if im on ignore ask him: have you uploaded the pub key to garage and its been accepted too?15:20
ifreqas it clearly is not prob of proper cmds15:20
ifreqmore with ssh auth15:20
ifreqon source host there is nothing to add for permissions etc.. should work cleanly15:20
ifreqwould be also nice to know does he try to scp inside scratchbox which ofcourse has dif ssh keys than the build host15:21
ruskiecpasjuste, since you can always ganaret an arbitary amount of debs out of a single source15:21
ruskieifreq, I don't think you are on ignore15:21
ifreqoki cool.15:21
ifreqi think cpaste lost nervers on me :P15:21
ifreqnerves*15:21
ruskieimpatient more likely15:21
ifreqgotta leave work, talk later. -> bus15:22
ruskiecpasjuste, can you paste your entire scp command ?15:22
cpasjustethanks for the help, but it work now15:23
cpasjustenot sure what happened, didnt change anything in both side ( plublic key)15:23
ruskiethen maybe it took a while to get all the things synced15:23
cpasjusteyep i think15:23
ifreqor pub key accepted15:23
ifreq:P15:23
cpasjusteyep15:23
ifreqon garage side15:23
ruskiecpasjuste, basically what I meant is you could have a wesnoth and wesnoth-data debs but they use the same source so apt-get source would get the same source for both and build each one separately15:24
cpasjustei understand what you'r saying ruskie, but it already really really hard for me all this debian/maemo packaging stuff, so having only one sources for two deb is really out of my competence :p15:24
ruskieit's hard even for me... and I'm used to packaging things... though with a lot less broken system then debian15:25
cpasjustei already completly hacked the data to be able to send it to autobuilder, i did write a crappy makefile for it15:25
cpasjustethe makefile just do a copy on install :!x15:25
ruskiebtw you know you could have just used the existing debian package?15:26
ruskieand just updated the relevant fields for it and added whatever patches you might have wanted15:26
cpasjustei think it would have been more work probably to understand all that crap15:26
ruskienot really... -> set version, add patches, update changelog15:26
ruskiethat would more or less all :)15:27
cpasjustehum15:27
ruskieactually changelog would be the version setting as well15:27
cpasjusteyou all want to make me mad ? :p15:27
ruskieno15:27
ruskiejust want to help you get things done more easily15:28
cpasjusteyes i'm joking15:28
cpasjustewhat's to be edited, the "rules" files ?15:28
cpasjusteto add patch etc ?15:28
ruskieto add patch is there a patches dir ?15:28
cpasjustewhere ? :p15:29
ruskieif so just add it there and list in patches file or list file15:29
cpasjustein the debian package ?15:29
ruskiedebian/patches15:29
cpasjusteha ok, didnt even download the debian package15:29
cpasjustei'm doing all that crap from sources15:29
ruskiebasically if the packagi is already packaged for debian it's easy to port over to maemo15:30
cpasjustewell i think it would be easier if we could just upload some "release version" .deb to devel15:30
cpasjustewithout the need to pass to autobuilder15:31
ruskiethen nobody would be able to get the source(which is rather anti-GPL) and unable to fix anything that someone might want to fix15:32
ifreqnot mention the depency errors etc15:32
ifreqits good for debugging your package15:32
ifreq:)15:32
ifreqso you can see its build with garage policy imho.15:32
ifreqlearned a alot when did my 1st package15:33
ruskieI'm waiting for the new xmms2 release then I'll probably bother packaging it for extras15:33
ifreqruskie: would be cool.15:34
ifreqcant wait for it :)15:34
ruskiewell I'm happy with my current one in my own repo :)15:34
ifreqruskie: im still hanging with the mp3blaster even it has some scaling problem on xterm15:34
ifreq=)15:34
ifreqhehe im sure you are15:34
ruskiebut I'll probably add the icons I use to it and the shortcuts15:35
ifreqplease relase it soon on extras15:36
ifreqif possib15:36
ifreqor mayb ill just add your repo :P15:36
ifreqdoing anything else nice?15:36
ruskiefcron djmount gtar gcoreutils15:36
ruskiethere's also rsyslog15:36
ifreqah nice15:37
ruskiefcron requires some handholding to take off15:37
ruskieadn I just today created an event.d script for it15:37
ruskiegtar and gcoreutils is really nothing spectacular15:38
ruskieand I see someone decide dto do them with a /usr/bin/gnu "YUCK" dir15:38
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ruskieI also have an emergency console that gets started if the keyboard is left open when booting(/bootmenu.sh) and fbcon15:39
ruskiegives you plain no-auth(need to fix that) shell15:39
ruskieso as long as you have /sbin/preinit and the tools it requires you can fix a broken init15:40
ruskietried rolling an initramfs but the limitation of 2MB for the kernel means it would need to be 200kb15:41
ruskiewhich means would probably need to be linked to something like klibc/diet/uclibc15:41
ruskieanyway need to run off home myself :)15:41
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hrwhttp://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2010/02/11/mdbus2-for-maemo5/16:16
hrwgcoreutils? is not coreutils-gnu already?16:17
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cpasjustearg crap, i did upload a package to autobuilder with "all" as Architecture (it only contain data), but it only built it for i386 it seems :x16:32
cpasjustewho16:34
cpasjusteand i dont understand, it seems to be a part of another package now :x   : http://maemo.org/packages/view/wesnoth-data/16:34
cpasjustearg crap16:35
cpasjustei understand nothing :x16:35
cpasjustewhy it did not build an "all" package like in scratchbox16:36
cpasjustehaa16:40
cpasjusteit did build it for arm it seems now, no enough patience16:41
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cpasjustelol16:53
cpasjustehttp://pastebin.com/m309f587616:53
cpasjustewelcome to the horror :x16:53
cpasjustecan i completly remove a package i uploaded to devel ?16:59
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villagerwoohoo, my cyborgeye program can now control the n900 camera's focus lens17:08
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villagercamera is still crap though, of course...17:08
villagercpasjuste: either email some admins to remove it or wait for them to implement that web interface they're working on17:09
cpasjustethanks villager>17:10
villagercpasjuste: though if you plan to make a package anyway, just upload a newer version I guess?17:11
cpasjusteyeah i tought to that17:11
cpasjustebut anyway my package is good !17:11
cpasjusteit's a 300Mb data package for wesnoth, tried to install it with apt-get, but apt-get use /var as a package cache so it fail17:12
cpasjustebut work great with hildon package manager17:12
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SpeedEvilIs there a walkthrough of how to distribute an app that's - say - 20 lines of sh or awk - and depends on zenity?17:18
lcukSpeedEvil, maemo-optify-boottime is one such example afaik17:24
SpeedEvilk17:28
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cpasjustecrap, the maemo-optify stuff is done at the postinstall script ? :x17:41
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cpasjustei need to reupload the whole package with manual optify :x17:41
lcukcpasjuste, thats just been changed17:46
lcuki saw a mail from mvo about it on -dev ML17:46
lcukor somewhere17:46
lcuk:D17:46
cpasjusteit's been changed in which way ?17:46
cpasjustenow it optify it at postinstall ?.17:46
cpasjusteor will it be optified before installing ? :p17:46
cpasjustei just uploaded a 250Mb package which seems to be optified at postinstall :x17:47
lcukcheck the deb17:47
lcukafaik the script is another portion and the files will be installed into /opt directly17:47
cpasjusteif i optify myslef, i need to make all the simlink to /opt myself ? :x17:48
cpasjustewell i just uploaded a package and its not the case with it17:48
cpasjustedoes "echo auto > debian/optify"  should be enough ?17:48
lcukcpasjuste, not sure, check the instructions/readme on maemo-optify stuff on gitorious17:49
Jaffacpasjuste: If you optify yourself, you don't need to bother with any symlinks, you just use /opt/<package> directly.17:55
Jaffacpasjuste: If you want auto-optification, put 'auto' in debian/optify17:55
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jeremiahlcuk: Did you get any council mail today?20:13
lcukjeremiah, ? should i have done20:14
jeremiahI sent mail to that list20:14
jeremiahcouncil@maemo.org20:15
lcukive not looked @ liquid@gmail all day20:15
* lcuk has been working hard20:15
jeremiahAh.20:15
lcukand i never get council@20:15
jeremiah~lcuk++20:15
jeremiahlcuk++20:16
Jaffajeremiah: lcuk isn't on the council...20:18
JaffaUnless something changed20:18
jeremiahnope.20:18
jeremiah<sheepish grin>20:18
jeremiahheh20:19
jeremiahVDVsx: ping20:19
VDVsxjeremiah, pong20:19
jeremiahVDVsx: Did _you_ get any council mail today?20:19
VDVsxjeremiah, yes, will reply later :)20:20
jeremiahcool :)20:20
VDVsxcurrently deal with the testing squad, trying to kick start the activities soon20:20
VDVsx*dealing20:20
jeremiahAwesome20:20
jeremiahI'm looking forward to that.20:20
lcukjeremiah, dont believe him20:22
lcukhe says he will reply to many things later20:22
jeremiahAin't it the open source way?20:22
jeremiahWe are all volunteers, so you just have to wait.20:23
VDVsxlcuk, I always do my job :D20:23
jeremiahWait - I'm not a volunteer, you can yell at me!20:23
VDVsxonly 2 pending replies atm, so no complains :D20:23
jeremiahVDVsx: You work hard, don't listen to lcuk!20:24
jeremiah20:24
* lcuk is only jesting20:26
* VDVsx removes all beers earned by lcuk for his list:"to whom I owe beer " :D20:29
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* lcuk restores vdvsx back to the top of his ass kickin list20:30
lcukoh wait, sorry i didnt take your name off it last time20:30
VDVsxgrrr20:30
lcuk:D20:30
VDVsxwell, no maemo events in the horizon, so see you at the summit :D :D20:31
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JaffaVDVsx: Can I have lcuk's beer, please?21:49
JaffaI'll do something useful21:49
jeremiahwha?21:49
jeremiahThere is beer?21:49
JaffaAllegedly21:50
jeremiahThere was beer at FOSDEM21:51
Jaffa:(21:51
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JaffaNext year, if my Big Plan comes off21:53
jeremiahOooh21:55
jeremiahNext year at FOSDEM or at the summit?21:55
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Jaffajeremiah: I'd hope to be at FOSDEM next year. I already hope to be at this year's summit :)22:03
jeremiahawesome22:08
jeremiahtexting squad?22:14
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