IRC log of #maemo-devel for Wednesday, 2010-02-03

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lcukifreq, i sense an app coming on "sorry hun, im stuck in traffic"00:00
ifreqhaha00:01
ifreqlcuk: i could do "Plays" like in theater00:01
ifreqand sw just parses em all and initiate call00:01
ifreq"sorry cant talk now, im in a bit hurry, ill call ya later, luv u"00:02
ifreq:P00:02
ifreqokay thats not healthly00:02
ifreqbbl with better plans00:02
lcukhaha00:02
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* ifreq confirms if anyone need this nfo: flite (current) compiles ok on maemo sdk, and runs ok too :P00:08
ifreqtho as someone says theres espeak allready00:09
ifreqso prob no idea to upload these to any repos aye?00:09
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jebbathere is flite in the repo00:56
jebba /var/www/repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/f/flite/flite_1.3-release-2_armel.deb00:56
SpeedEvilespeak too00:56
SpeedEvilifreq: consider also those with speaking problems.00:57
SpeedEvilifreq: that sort of app could actually be _really_ handy00:57
SpeedEvil'my address is ...' - press button 6 times to read out each line00:57
ifreqhttp://deviate.fi/n900/milkytracker/milky.png00:58
ifreqjebba: ah okay. i need to be more presice00:58
ifreqerr not the right word.. anyways :P00:58
jebbasome small buttons there00:59
ifreqheh yeah :)00:59
ifreqquite pain todo some real work.. but music plays great :)00:59
ifreqjebba: im just picking src codes and crosscompiling and using your wiki as learning howto make good packages01:00
jebbaah nice01:00
ifreqso prob not anythign for months which i could upload to devel :P01:00
jebbaif it's not in -devel and you get it to launch, upload it  ;)01:01
ifreqbut before that going thru some apps i use on everyday life01:01
ifreqheh :)01:01
ifreqwell milky was on n8xx atleast01:01
ifreqjebba: package build has been very helpful on my path of learning new things01:02
jebbacool01:03
ifreqnext i just need decent howto for howto add .desktop icons on same package and some basic rules for uploading stuff to devel repo :P01:05
jebbaya, i stopped writing around then  ;)01:06
ifreqhehe :)01:06
ifreqppl demand more! (me)01:06
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ifreqhow long does it usually takes to get upload permission?03:06
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jebbai think i got it in a day or so  IIRC03:20
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ifreqmorning09:37
ifreqhow long does it take usually to get upload invite?09:37
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jebbaperhaps they are done manually. Sun is up in finland.09:48
jebbawell maybe. it is winter there....09:48
ifreqheh10:15
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Wolfiewell, it's up now10:20
Wolfienice to have a cloudless sky again10:20
pillar_for a change10:22
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jebbaifreq: nokia will teach you the bleeding edge needs patience10:27
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ifreqyeah :)10:48
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lcukWolfie, cloudless usually == colder doesnt it?12:11
Wolfielcuk: yes, usually. Not today, though.12:12
Wolfieit's warmer now than in a long itme12:12
Wolfie*time12:12
Wolfieso perhaps spring is coming12:13
lcukits the collective mass of finnish people countrywide shivering at the extra snow yesterday12:13
Wolfieyesterday wasn't bad here in Turku12:15
Wolfiesome snow to shuffle, but not as bad as the last storm a month-or-so ago12:15
visz70 traffic incidents in Helsinki because of snow last wednesday or so12:15
lcukvisz, understandable for once, its a bit deep everywhere12:17
Wolfieyeah, i've heard that Helsinki is like hell, only with snow12:18
Wolfiebut you get some hunky army guys shovelling snow onto trucks soon ;)12:19
ifreqis there good faq howto add .desktop file into .deb build? Also when the package is dependant on another package (on build process) How do i include it.. via debian/control? do the included package need also to be uploaded to garage?12:46
ifreqif someone can spare a few minute to answer im much appreciated :) im doing quick howto for myself from jebbas instuctions and some generic stuff.. would help me and you @future (i wont be bugging anymore)12:47
ifreq:)12:47
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ifreqanyone awake?20:30
SpeedEvilno.20:35
ifreqgotcha20:38
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odin_dpkg builder question: "dpkg-genchanges: warning: package XYZ in control file but not in files list" what does that mean ?  (sorry google full of questions not answers)21:16
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villagerit means what it says... perhaps you shouldn't call your package XYZ anyway, it looks bad. Other than that, you may have done something seriously wrong with the packaging, but nobody can tell you what unless you give details21:42
villagerperhaps you didn't use dh_installdeb before dh_genchanges21:44
villagerhmm no, that wouldn't be it21:45
odin_what is a "files list" then ?21:47
odin_the package is a re-packaged debian-etch bash shell21:48
villagershow your rules file then21:48
odin_its all optified and looking great in the binary *.deb's it create, ok the debian/rules is quite big21:48
villagerthe files list would be debian/files, which is generated by some debian utility... tested on my packages, it seems to be dh_gencontrol, which calls dpkg-gencontrol21:52
odin_debian/rules is 18kb a bit big for pastebin21:53
odin_I think it unwinds some of the Makefile targets itself, the single *.dsc file creates 5 or 6 output packages21:53
villagerwhat is the exact problem with that message then?21:54
odin_well it references a package "bash-dbg" which I want it to build, I added it to the debian/control but have not seen it do any work to create it21:54
odin_I want this to be debug symbols as per: dh_strip -p$(p) --dbg-package=bash-dbg21:55
odin_but the package dir debian/bash-dbg is not created during the build so I guess I need to add something to the debian/rules to make it create it21:56
villagerare those rules debhelper-based otherwise or does it use dpkg-* tools directly?21:57
odin_100% debhelper-based21:57
odin_the only dpkg-* tools are ones to obtain system config info (arch, cpu, etc...)21:58
odin_is there a walk-talk-through over how the dpkg-buildpackage works, i.e. the Makefile is constructs and uses, the order the targets are called and what each target's purpose is21:58
villagerwell, either you added the package wrong, or the rules file is complex enough that it processes each package individually and stuff for the new package must be added as well21:59
villagerwell, there's a man page21:59
odin_when I look at debian/rules is provide its own Makefile targets for example: bash-build bash-configure bash-install22:00
villagerperhaps not available in scratchbox22:00
odin_Ive read the HOWTO guides and it explains how to get myproject.c working (I can do that) but I'm after a detailed guide about what happens under the lid22:00
villagerthose appear to be custom targets for that rules file, dpkg-buildpackage only calls build and binary-arch22:00
villagerand binary-indep22:01
odin_ok I see those targets too, and if those targets are not supplied, what would a default implementation of those targets look like ?22:01
villagerwell, read the debian man pages, it's all there22:01
odin_for dpkg-buildpackage ?22:01
villageryes, dpkg-buildpackage man page has a step-by-step description of what it does22:02
villagerif those targets are not supplied, dpkg-buildpackage fails22:02
odin_ok I'll find a reference for it (I'm not on a debian system, although I have SSH access to "j e b b a's" one)22:02
villagerthere's no default implementation22:03
villagerdebian/rules is expected to provide everything somehow, usually by calling other debian tools from its targets22:04
odin_ok thanks for pointers, I'll search on a real debian system (rather than internet)22:04
villagersome veteran debian developers do everything by hand from their rules file22:05
villagerif your debian/rules is based on cdbs or dh7 then those may provide default implementations of stuff, but dpkg-buildpackage does not22:07
odin_well this is 1 source package that spits out 6 binary package, so it is not as stright forward22:07
odin_dh5 (etch)22:07
odin_ok I see the default implementation of "build" is in /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk and then /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk22:09
villagerdoes your rules use cdbs then?22:10
odin_no22:10
villagerthen those won't matter22:10
odin_but the project I have been looking at that DOES generate *-dbg packages is using cdbs22:10
odin_time to headscratch on the how cdbs goes about implementing it, so I can unwind it into the debian/rules file22:11
villagercdbs is a mess22:11
odin_well maybe there is a step-by-step guide to how a *-dbg is generated, so I can write the binary-bash-dbg target into debian/rules22:12
odin_gotta eat something back soon22:12
villageryou should make sure stuff like dh_installdeb, dh_gencontrol, dh_md5sum, and dh_builddeb is called for the new package22:12
villagerafter that dh_strip probably22:13
villagerthere's no magic in generating the -dbg package, it's just that it doesn't remove the need for doing all the other regular packaging tasks for the new package, like using those utilities22:16
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