IRC log of #maemo-devel for Tuesday, 2010-02-02

ifreqstill need optify and im done00:00
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Ken-YoungWhen an app is sitting in Extras-testing, waiting to be promoted into Extras, does the time spent waiting for Package Karma to reach 10 count towards the 10 days of quarantine time, or must the app sit for 10 days *after* reaching a karma of 10?01:29
frals10 day starts when package is promoted to -testing01:32
Ken-Youngfrals, Goodie - thanks.01:32
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PavelIs the source code available for the N900's default calendar application?02:38
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villagerno... though the backend library is03:30
Pavelvillager: Darn...03:35
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Rudolfmorning!13:14
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fluxis it possible for an app to have a separate app 'thumbnail' when it's viewed in the running applications view?14:59
fluxthe use case I was thinking was that xterm could show a dramatically zoomed version of its contents from around the cursor15:00
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lcukflux, thats not a bad idea, but im not sure how frequently the desktop manager checks, and it certainly never tells you the size of the thumbnail15:09
w00tit might be possible to try hack it up15:10
lcukso an app could say "ok im not foreground window any more, replace ui with simplistic cover", but it would be disorienting too as the image changes15:10
w00tthere's a dbus signal when it goes into switcher mode, isn't there?15:10
w00twhat about when it comes out of15:10
lcukthe app gets x11 events15:10
w00tI'm not sure if that would be reliable enough, but I suppose it might work15:10
lcukx11 events *have* to be reliable.. ?15:11
w00tin theory, yes, in practice? :P15:11
w00tit's not exactly something that people have tinkered with before15:11
w00tokay, back to making this connect4 algorithm work15:12
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hrwhi16:27
Rudolfhi16:28
hrwwhich toolchain is finally official? maemosdk (sbox) uses gcc 4.2.1, binutils 2.18.50.something, madde uses gcc 4.3.3, binutils 2.19.51.something16:28
hrwboth uses glibc 2.5.1+eglibc{19/20}16:29
hrwwhich looks like random code drop16:29
hrwanyone?17:28
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ifreqanyone got an opinion for call-firewall sw idea? I was thinking is it possible to use dbus commands and some sort of txt list/db to apply such behaviour?22:24
ifreqim not a coder so wont even start to think more doing such app :-P22:25
ifreqlist would be either made by yourself and fetched from internet to block phone sales ppl etc.22:26
ifreqany opinions for such app?22:26
w00twhat exactly would it do? (tech aside)22:26
ifreqi could do prob simple daemon which checks for incoming call and matches for the list22:27
ifreqw00t: it blocks the call22:27
ifreqor ends it22:27
ifreqbefore you get to answer it. as its non wanted call.22:27
w00tinteresting idea at least22:27
ifreqprob doable with dbus22:27
* w00t notes that ability to schedule stuff might also be interesting (work? auto-drop after 5pm. :P)22:27
ifreqw00t: yeah its been used earlier on some phones22:27
ifreqw00t: yeah scheduling too for some groups.. like annoying drunk friends22:28
ifreq:)22:28
w00thahaha22:28
w00tyeah22:28
ifreqor mayb auto reply by playign wave "goto sleep man beep beep"22:28
ifreq:D22:28
ifreqanyways for you ppl to chew  :)22:28
w00tI've got a guy who used to work with me.. not met him in -years-, he gets -very- drunk and rings me up with all sorts of rubbish22:28
w00the left a voicemail for me a month ago, 22 minutes long22:28
w00tI am not kidding22:28
ifreqyeah i know such person too :)22:29
w00tanyway, does sound good. I wonder if dbus provides the right capabilities to do it (call notify, disconnect call)22:29
ifreqdisco prob.. dunno bout the notify22:29
ifreqdisco and answer im quite sure. autoplay something for the call would be extra.. or to leave voice msg locally to your phone memory ;)22:30
ifreqthat would be cool even :)22:30
ifreqwish i had the coding skill but im just s2pid admin style person :)22:31
ifreqi only do poor shellscripts22:31
w00tmm22:31
w00tI'm not promising anything, as I'm midway through an app right now, but it is interesting.22:31
w00tso I might get around to it22:31
ifreqthat would be cool. its really _usable_ prog. not another LEDflashlight or cheap clone of xxxxx sw22:33
ifreq:)22:33
SpeedEvilI want a nice flashlight.22:33
ifreqcould see such app on ovi store eventually with decent gui22:33
SpeedEvilwhere flipping the camera cover open-closed-open turns on the light22:34
ifreqSpeedEvil: buy led lenser22:34
ifreqgood flashlights :)22:34
ifreqmine can be turned on for 100hours continuosly22:34
ifreqSpeedEvil: what you think about the current call-firewall discussion?22:35
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SpeedEvilifreq: I have a nice flashlight on my keychain.22:38
ifreq*g*22:38
ifreqim happy to hear that man22:39
SpeedEvilifreq: however - I want the phone to also do it in a simple to access manner22:39
SpeedEvilFenix L0D - about to get an upgrade to a cree XPG LED22:39
ifreqbbl, ill try to work something out for 2nd idea i got. mayb someone more skilled can finish it later on :P22:39
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wolf^what's the correct way to initialize pulseaudio?23:20
wolf^I do the following:23:20
wolf^setenv( "PULSE_PROP_application.name", appName.c_str(), 1 );23:20
wolf^setenv( "PULSE_PROP_media.role", "music", 1 );23:20
wolf^m_pa = pa_simple_new( NULL, appName.c_str(), PA_STREAM_PLAYBACK, NULL, "audio", &ss, NULL, &ba, NULL );23:20
wolf^everything is working, but global volume setting doesn't apply23:20
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lcukwho was doing boot time analysis of n90023:54
ifreqis it possible to route voice from mp3 file into current voice call?23:58
ifreqvoice/sound23:59

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