IRC log of #maemo-devel for Friday, 2010-01-15

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draglyalthough it just crashed 2 times in 4 minutes and still has some issues with flash...00:00
andrewgodwinhave the repos for scratchbox moved or something? I'm getting 404s all round00:01
andrewgodwin(i.e. the maemo sdk repos)00:01
andrewgodwinah, no, I suspect I'm an idiot00:03
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andrewgodwinyes, i had the arch as arm, not armel00:20
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niekt0those nokia ......, I am affraid this is not accident01:46
woglindehm what?01:46
niekt0https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797201:48
povbotBug 7972: Kernel in PR1.1 build-depends on fiasco-gen which is nowhere to be found01:48
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svanheulenhello02:32
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svanheulenanyone home?02:37
[Tycho]Yes.02:37
woglindeno02:38
svanheulenhi :) do you know if the maemo sdk is supposed to be able to run things you compile for the device?02:38
woglindei386 yes02:40
svanheuleni'm trying to compile emacs but durring the compile it uses the compiled emacs to compile some lisp and it segfaults doing that if i have the target set to armel02:41
svanheulencompiles fine if i have the target set to x86 of course02:44
svanheulenany ideas how to handle that? it's like it compiles emacs and then uses emacs to compile emacs... the Makefile is really confusing02:47
woglindesvanheulen sure qemu02:49
svanheulenmy problem is that it sefaults on the "emacs compiling emacs" part but if i copy the files over to the device it runs fine02:50
svanheuleni could finish the compilation on the device but it would take me forever to figure out all the steps from the Makefile02:51
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woglindeyeah qemu is segfaulting02:52
svanheulenyup02:52
woglindeyou cannt do anything02:52
svanheulenlame :(02:52
woglindeor rewrite emacs code02:52
svanheulenhaha, sure02:52
woglindetry to upload it02:53
woglindeto the autobuilder02:53
woglindeperhaps it will build there02:53
svanheulenbah, i wish there was an easy way to just get gcc and such on my n90002:54
woglindedpkg -i02:55
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woglindewhat is not easy on that?02:56
woglindeI installed libc6-dbg from the sdk02:56
woglindeto get debug symbols02:56
svanheulensorry, i meant in opt02:56
woglindesame should work with gcc02:56
svanheulenyeah i know you can install from sdk repos but it's not optified02:57
jebbasvanheulen: you can install easy debian and d it all in chroots02:58
woglindesvanheulen use dpkg -X and mount it as overlay03:00
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goodwillJaffa: is catorise supposed to know when a new app is installed and re-run to update the new icon in the right category?03:57
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ruskiehmm can't install openvpn due to liblzo2-2 Size mismatch from extras08:46
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chezgihello, is there any restriction if i want to change the kernel and load my custom kernel? (my phone will work fully.)09:03
ruskieif you use the same version and the same patches and same config options and just enable extra stuff it should09:04
chezgiruskie: i want only add some new features to the same kernel used by N900.09:05
ruskieshould be possible then09:05
ruskiebtw tried Jebbas kernel yet? it might already have the features you want ;)09:05
chezgiruskie: you say that all drivers of N900 will work with new changed kernel?09:06
ruskiechezgi, as said if using the same sources09:07
ruskieand patches09:07
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ruskieJebba has info on his wiki page09:07
ruskiesee: User:Jebba page on maemo wiki09:07
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dzerjinskiyРусский, выходи!09:27
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lardmanmorning all12:51
lardmananyone here with any interest in mathematical software?12:51
lardmanam trying to get lapack compiled, and having some issues with f2c12:52
woglindehi lardman12:52
lardmanwondering if I should keep trying that way or try e.g. clapack12:52
woglinde*g*12:52
lardmanhi woglinde12:52
woglindeqemu12:52
lardmanno FORTRAN12:52
woglindeqemu suckz with fortran?12:54
lardmanthe toolchain does not support FORTRAN12:54
lardmanbut that's water under the bridge, fort77 + f2c works fine for most stuff12:55
woglindeuh12:55
woglinden8xx dsps hit kernel12:56
lardmanjust am not sure how to compile lapack as it creates a static library, and I've not worked out how I should link the f2c stuff12:56
lardmanwoglinde: ?12:56
woglindeaul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>12:56
woglinde[PATCH 00/18] OMAP2/3/4 clock: split out code for clock types and clean up12:57
woglindePaul12:57
lardmanoh, is in mainline you mean?12:57
woglinderequest for12:57
woglindeas far as I say12:57
woglindehm or only arm12:57
woglindebut should enter12:57
woglindeargs12:58
woglindeI am blind12:58
woglindehm12:58
woglindeits about clock12:59
woglinde*hides*12:59
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hrwmorning13:47
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niekt0any news about https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7972 ?15:29
povbotBug 7972: Kernel in PR1.1 build-depends on fiasco-gen which is nowhere to be found15:29
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Stskeepsnot yet, but if nothing is happening i will escelate the issue monday15:33
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niekt0hmm, fiasco-gen is just flasher? I think there was som opensource flashing utility, at least for n80015:47
Stskeepsno, fiasco-gen is the generator for the fiasco images15:47
Stskeepsbut yes, it's part of flasher15:47
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hrwStskeeps: any infos about opening kernel git tree?16:44
Stskeepsnot afaik but i will write it on a postit16:47
hrw /usr/share/icons/hildon contains all icons used by maemo5?16:57
hrwor /usr/share/theme/alpha/images/ are used as icons?16:58
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uttumuttuaaaarrrggghhhhhhh17:57
uttumuttuhow long is maemo.org going to be down17:58
ifreqits closed and ppl have committed suicide18:00
ifreqthanks for joining us18:00
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ruskieanyone good with debian control files?18:50
woglinderuskie ask18:50
woglindebut quick18:50
ruskieI'm making a tool to replace existing packages with dummy ones18:51
woglindemy son ask for his time to play with me18:51
woglindehm18:51
ruskiehttp://sprunge.us/OWiQ18:51
ruskieexample dummy control file18:51
ruskieI want it to replace adobe-flashplayer for example with break-adobe-flashplayer18:51
ruskiebut if I apt-get install it it still removes adobe-flashplayer and mp-freemantle stuff18:52
ruskieis anything obviously broken in that file?18:52
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woglindeyes18:53
woglindeyour are lacking source entries18:53
ruskiethat's required?18:53
ruskiethese are dummy packages18:53
woglindeDepends: is solved automaticly18:53
woglindehm18:53
ruskieit installs nothing18:54
ruskiejust remove adobe-flashplayer and installs itself as adobe-flashplayer18:54
ruskieor that's what's supposed to happen18:54
ruskiehence the Replaces and Conflicts18:54
ruskieConflicts works18:54
ruskiebut Replaces doesn't apparently18:54
woglindehm you can use only on18:55
woglindee18:55
ruskieUse this when your program replaces files from another package, or completely replaces another package (used in conjunction with Conflicts:). Files from the named packages will be overwritten with the files from your package.18:55
woglindeeither confilcts or replaces18:55
ruskieaccording to debian docs18:55
woglindehm18:56
woglindeokay18:56
woglindeseems I am not yet needed it this much18:56
ruskiego play with the kid... someone else is bound to know something ;)18:57
villageryou probably want Provides19:22
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ruskievillager, isn't that for things that are pre-defined?19:48
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ruskieand I did try it as well iirc19:48
villagerno it isn't19:49
lardman|homeDon't you just hate it when a 2hr build fails at the last moment?19:49
villagerprovides makes the package satisfy an unversioned dependency, whether that package name is virtual or not19:50
villagerI suspect that mp-fremantle has a versioned dependency?19:50
ruskieyup19:50
ruskiethat didn't help19:51
ruskiehttp://sprunge.us/KgNW <-- this is what's there now19:52
villagerversioned provides has been a very long-standing feature request in the debian tools, but still isn't implemented19:52
villagerwhich means you can't do what you want without naming the binary package adobe-flashplayer19:52
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villagerReplaces is mostly for saying that a package is overwriting/superseding the contents of another package, not for satisfying a dependency on the other package... you need provides for that, but for some reason, nobody seems to have wanted versioned provides in Debian enough to implement it20:02
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ruskieso the versioning is the only issue?20:03
villagerguess so20:03
ruskiethere a way to tell apt to install a pkg from a specific repo other than pining(I never figured that out)20:04
villagerpossibly, if you name your repo with a Release file or something... but I think it's probably easier to call your package adoble-flashplayer like the dependency needs, and then make your package Provides: break-adobe so that the user can say apt-get install break-adobe and apt will know which package to install20:06
villagerif that works, at least20:06
ruskiehmmm I guess I'll need to adjust the code a bit20:07
villagers/adoble/adobe/20:08
villagerand for installing a package from a specific repo, if that repo has a Release file with a "Label: foo" in it, you can do apt-get install package/foo (or use pinning), I think... never tried to make such a repo myself, but I think that's the idea20:14
lardman|homebloody Octave, why doesn't setting LIBS=-lf2c actually get the linker to link the bloody library20:15
ruskiehmm wil look into this20:15
villagerhm, seems it's "Codename: foo", not "Label: foo", these days20:17
* ruskie looks up the Release file docs20:18
villagerSuite: and Codename: would both work in apt-get install package/foo syntax according to the docs20:24
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ruskiehmm seems to be apt-get -t20:26
hrwha! I know what I wanted to post to maemo-devel ML20:26
hrwbroken state of repositories20:26
ruskiehrw, you are aware there is a server move today?20:27
ruskieand that there'll be issues for most of 24 hours or so and possibly after as well?20:27
lcukhrw, gladly accepted your linkedin :)20:27
hrwruskie: I am not about 'repositories are not available'20:27
hrwruskie: but rather as 'why there are packages with broken deps'20:28
ruskieahh20:28
hrwlcuk: I thought that I have you in contacts there ;D20:28
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Miniscalopehey20:40
Miniscalopesomeone here?20:41
lardman|homeyeah, someone there?20:44
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ruskieechooo... echoo.. oo.. o..20:45
Miniscalopehi all20:47
Miniscalopei've got a problem with upstart20:47
Miniscalopein scratchbox , all my commands fail with this error: (comand_name): Unable to send message: Connection refused20:48
Miniscalopeso i cant install packages that have a postinst script wich start an upstart job (start --quiet ...)20:49
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villagerare you prefixing your commands with run-standalone.sh ?20:52
villagercan't connect to dbus without it, apparently20:54
ruskieapt-get install break/adobe-flashplayer doesn't work20:54
villagerdid you mean adobe-flashplayer/break?20:55
ruskiehmm20:55
ruskieE: Release 'break' for 'adobe-flashplayer' was not found20:56
ruskieI guess my Release file isn't correct20:56
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Miniscalopevillager: yes i do, it still fail21:00
villagerhmm, no idea then, I've never had to deal with upstart in scratchbox21:01
Jaffaev'ning21:03
Jaffagoodwill: yes, using dpkg triggers. Someone's raised a bug saying it doesn't for them...21:03
hrwhi Jaffa21:03
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VINCENT__frals i try to update to v 0.1.10-1 but it keeps saying "Update file damaged"22:36
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fiferboyDoes anyone know off the top of his/her head how to get an app to respond to a theme change?23:14
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lcukfiferboy, in gtk or in qt23:18
lcuknot that i know either23:18
fiferboyGtk23:18
fiferboyhildon home applet, actually23:18
lcukits either dbus or an event23:18
fiferboyIt doesn't look like it is osso, which I thought it might have been23:20
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fiferboyAnd event would be great23:20
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lcukfiferboy, you could try some of these http://lists.moblin.org/pipermail/dev/2008-February/001326.html23:21
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hrwI need brave tester which likes Protracker modules music and have extras-devel enabled23:29
lardman|homeis this channel logged?23:33
hrwprobably23:33
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* lardman|home sees texrat's email saying we're become two groups, this & that (various examples) and is sorely to reply and add another: developers and users23:33
lardman|homegood lord, I can't type anymore23:34
lardman|homeI imagine you got the idea though ;)23:34
lardman|homenote to self, less wine....23:34
hrwlardman|home: fetch http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/maemo/modland-player_0.4-2_armel.deb and install23:35
hrwit will request some packages to be isntalled so 'apt-get -f install' and run23:35
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lardman|homehrw: I don't have my N900 handy I'm afraid, is charging and getting ready to test Octave23:40
hrwhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=475041 - my app got released to public23:40
lardman|homecongrats :)23:41
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hrwbye23:47
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