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| lardman|home | evening chaps | 00:43 |
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| dragly | evening ;) | 00:45 |
| lardman|home | hi dragly, how are you getting along? | 00:49 |
| dragly | quite good :) but I just realised the problem with the earpiece on my N900 came back. Seems like I'll need to return it after all. | 00:51 |
| lardman|home | oh, that's a shame :( | 00:51 |
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| lardman|home | ok, optification, what's the standard scheme? /opt/octave/ work ok? | 01:36 |
| lardman|home | or should there be some other sort of dir naming scheme? | 01:37 |
| pillar | hmm is there already a desktop widget to connect/disconnect gprs/wlan connection? or under development? three-presses and the waiting is too much for such a lazy person as me :) | 01:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | power button -> modem off? | 02:01 |
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| mj__ | hi guys, can any one help me, i have compiled the sample base.c program in scratch box, but how do i execute it to show on Xephyr? I used, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Graphical_UI_Tutorial/Getting_started that shows how to compile | 02:31 |
| mj__ | when i use ./base.c it says permission denied | 02:32 |
| lardman|home | base.c should have been compiled into something | 02:36 |
| lardman|home | e.g. "a.out" or perhaps "base"? | 02:37 |
| mj__ | lardman: thanks.. i feel so dumb | 02:38 |
| mj__ | just using ./base worked | 02:38 |
| lardman|home | np | 02:38 |
| mj__ | finally now i can make something usefull :) | 02:41 |
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| svanheulen | testing out the maemo 5 sdk, i can compile emacs fine in x86 mode but when i switch to armel the compile segfaults :( | 04:10 |
| svanheulen | are you supposed to be able to run the UI when your target is armel? | 04:18 |
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| taljurf | hello | 08:44 |
| taljurf | i'm trying to install maemo 5 sdk on fedora 12 but it fails to install scratchbox | 08:45 |
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| asj_ | yay 55-1 has an update to ovi-maps :) | 09:49 |
| ifreq | lots of updates :P | 09:50 |
| ifreq | ex2003 support yau \o/ | 09:50 |
| asj_ | well ovi maps still can't look up addresses worth a damn :( | 09:51 |
| asj_ | sorry, 51-1, lol, can't have 55 wks in a year ;) | 09:51 |
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| ifreq | humm | 11:45 |
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| hrw | morning | 11:53 |
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| BabelO_ | morning | 12:00 |
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| asjo | Can anyone tell me what the name of the meta-package that depends on a specific version of modest is in 1-2009.42-11? (I removed that meta-package to install my own version of modest, and didn't write down the name of it, stupidly). | 12:22 |
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| asjo | (The answer was "mp-fremantle-generic-pr"; I should have asked in #maemo first - sorry for the noise). | 12:30 |
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| asj_ | anyone have an example of libalarm alarm_recur_create()? | 13:00 |
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| lardman | rlinfati: what's happened to Googlelatitude? | 13:11 |
| lardman | I don't seem to be able to see it in the repo anymore | 13:11 |
| lardman | or perhaps extras-devel is just broken.... | 13:11 |
| rlinfati | lardman, i not do nothing.... | 13:12 |
| rlinfati | in the moring is working ok.... i uninstall before of update to pr1.1 | 13:12 |
| rlinfati | and after i install ok | 13:12 |
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| glogiotatidis | hello | 13:13 |
| glogiotatidis | I'm the developer of nsschedule and stopwatch apps. can you can help me to fix the butracker link in my packages webpages? (e.g. http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/nsschedule/0.1.5-1) | 13:15 |
| glogiotatidis | how to I create a new product on maemo's bugzilla and how to define the xsbc-bugtracker value using py2deb? | 13:16 |
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| Wolfie | glogiotatidis: i think maemo's bugzilla is reserved only for maemo-official stuff. You'll need to create your own bug tracker | 13:23 |
| Wolfie | i'm sorry, ignore me. I'm probably wrong | 13:24 |
| glogiotatidis | Wolfie, no it's also for third party apps. thnx anyway ;) | 13:24 |
| lcuk | glogiotatidis, http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Administration_guide | 13:25 |
| glogiotatidis | lcuk, I'm not an administrator so I can't create new products. But I guess that means I should contact an admin. | 13:26 |
| Wolfie | glogiotatidis: yeah, noticed too soon :( | 13:29 |
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| ArtVanda1ae | Hi all, I'm coming from #maemo... I am hoping somebody could point me in the right direction here. I'll just copy + paste my question, if no one minds | 13:34 |
| ArtVanda1ae | I'm writing a GTK+ app for Maemo. It's being written in C, and Glade 3 (GtkBuilder). It compiles and works on both of my desktop machines. I then compile it in scratchbox (no problems), but when I run it, I get "GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_widget_show: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed"... I've googled for this, but no one seems to have come up with the answer. The only think that I could think, that is changing betw | 13:34 |
| ArtVanda1ae | een the machines is the GTK version, desktop machines are: 2.16.1 (first desktop), 2.18.3 (second desktop), 2.14.7 (Maemo). Could it be that Maemo GTK+ version is understanding the GtkBuilder syntax? | 13:34 |
| ArtVanda1ae | I've also tried to debug it, and it gets to gtk_main(), not problem... I still think the assertion failing is where my problem lies. I can paste code if that would be useful. | 13:35 |
| ArtVanda1ae | Thanks | 13:35 |
| Stskeeps | a pastebin of your code might help | 13:35 |
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| ArtVanda1ae | will do... it's "failing" in the main function, so the code won't be too long :) | 13:35 |
| ArtVanda1ae | Link: http://pastebin.com/d205a168b | 13:38 |
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| ArtVanda1ae | Hm... I wonder if newer versions of GTK+ are available for Maemo | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | i wish | 13:48 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:48 |
| ArtVanda1ae | Maybe I can just download the debian gtk+... I mean that's asking for trouble, but it'll confirm my suspicions | 13:54 |
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| ArtVanda1ae | Found it! | 14:01 |
| ArtVanda1ae | It was the changes in the lib | 14:02 |
| ArtVanda1ae | It appears the menu system I was using a lot of features introduced in 2.16 | 14:02 |
| ArtVanda1ae | *had a lot of features | 14:02 |
| ArtVanda1ae | The rest of it works just fine :D | 14:05 |
| pillar | if I want to add dependencies to qt4.6 core and network, what should I add to the control file? | 14:05 |
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| frals | who do you poke when the package importer seems stuck? | 14:36 |
| frals | (ie build succeeded 0010 UTC and still not in -devel ;)) | 14:36 |
| Stskeeps | X-Fade? | 14:37 |
| frals | thank you :) | 14:39 |
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| jeremiah | frals: Yeah, contact X-fade or Ed regarding builder / autobuilder stuff | 14:59 |
| jeremiah | Ed Bartosh is not often around though. | 15:00 |
| jeremiah | He does read the maemo-devel list | 15:00 |
| pillar | jeremiah: hey, would you be able to help me with packaging properly my qt app? little gnomes told that you might be a right person to approach :) | 15:02 |
| jeremiah | pillar: Yes! | 15:03 |
| jeremiah | :) | 15:03 |
| jeremiah | But little gnomes for a Qt app? | 15:03 |
| jeremiah | I doubt it. :) | 15:03 |
| pillar | haha :) | 15:03 |
| jeremiah | Trolls maybe | 15:03 |
| pillar | little Qnomes then | 15:03 |
| jeremiah | :-) | 15:03 |
| pillar | or better yeah | 15:03 |
| pillar | I have tried to follow some examples, everything seems to go alright but the app doesn't show up in the device | 15:04 |
| jeremiah | ah. Hmm. | 15:05 |
| pillar | I'm thinking it's probably about getting the icon correcltly to the package maybe | 15:05 |
| jeremiah | How did you install it on the device? | 15:05 |
| jeremiah | Did you do a dpkg -i locally? | 15:05 |
| pillar | dpkg -i <deb> | 15:05 |
| pillar | yeah | 15:05 |
| jeremiah | okay | 15:05 |
| jeremiah | Where do you not see the icon? | 15:05 |
| jeremiah | In the application manager? | 15:06 |
| pillar | no, I don't think it should go there since I'm not using it | 15:06 |
| pillar | but it's not in the applist in "more" | 15:06 |
| jeremiah | Which applist? | 15:06 |
| pillar | umm, you know, the builtin menu where you see all the apps and can launch them | 15:07 |
| pillar | this for n900/maemo5 | 15:07 |
| jeremiah | That is the Application Manager | 15:07 |
| pillar | oh, I though app manager is the one where you install/uninstall/update stuff | 15:07 |
| jeremiah | It is. | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | I though that is what you meant. | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | I may be confused. | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | You mean when you click on the little boxes in the upper left corner of the screen? | 15:08 |
| jeremiah | (I should know the name of that app.) | 15:08 |
| pillar | yeah then you see calendar, contacts etc. and the last icon is "more" | 15:09 |
| jeremiah | okay | 15:09 |
| pillar | inside you see the icons of all the installed apps and can launch them | 15:09 |
| jeremiah | Yup. :) | 15:09 |
| pillar | I don't know what to call it :) but there I would like to have my app and it's icon | 15:09 |
| jeremiah | I am not sure where that app reads from - it may read from disk or it may read from dpkg or something on reboot. | 15:09 |
| jeremiah | I will have to investigate since this is a maemo-specific packaging issue. | 15:10 |
| jeremiah | But it should be an easy fix. :) | 15:10 |
| pillar | ok | 15:10 |
| jeremiah | Let me shell into my device and see where the icons live . . . | 15:10 |
| pillar | also maybe it would be useful to just go through the steps of packaging properly, most likely I'm missing something too | 15:12 |
| jeremiah | Sure | 15:13 |
| jeremiah | We can use pastebin for your rules / control files. | 15:13 |
| pillar | good thing that this is something that needs to be learned only ones :) | 15:13 |
| jeremiah | Yeah. | 15:13 |
| jeremiah | Once you learn it, it's pretty easy. :) | 15:13 |
| taljurf | hi guys i got this while installing the sdk http://fpaste.org/fiJ8/ | 15:17 |
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| frals | pillar: if you want it to show up in the "programs menu" (or whatever its called) you need to install the .desktop file | 15:21 |
| pillar | frals: ok, I have it but I guess it doesn't get packaged correctly or something.. not sure where I should put it | 15:22 |
| pillar | right now I have it in my src folder | 15:22 |
| frals | pillar: it should go into /usr/share/applications/hildon/ | 15:23 |
| pillar | frals: inside the debian folder? | 15:24 |
| frals | no idea how to do that when properly building a package, im using pypackager and then i just throw it in to src/usr/share/applications/hildon and it ends up in the right place :) | 15:24 |
| pillar | frals ok :) | 15:25 |
| pillar | I'm thinking the packager probably does it somehow automatically, but don't know how | 15:25 |
| pillar | ls | 15:25 |
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| jeremiah | You'll need to inform the builder that you have an icon and tell the builder where to put it. | 15:45 |
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| pillar | now it seems that the icon transfers alright, but the actual binary not | 16:27 |
| jeremiah | let's look at that :) | 16:29 |
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| HoX | Hi everybody... | 16:55 |
| HoX | can somebody help me with a problem flashing my n900? | 16:55 |
| HoX | I follow the instruction on the wiki | 16:55 |
| HoX | but I don't understand if its normal that after the message "Suitable USB device not found, waiting." it stops or if there's something wrong | 16:56 |
| pillar | hey are you guys able to apt-get upgrade your sdk without errors? | 17:10 |
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| pillar | Processing was halted because there were too many errors. | 17:14 |
| pillar | E: Sub-process /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 17:14 |
| pillar | that's what I get | 17:14 |
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| jeremiah | Haven't tried to update my scratchbox environment, will do it when I get home. | 17:45 |
| pillar | to me it seems that there were too many updates too fast, but hey, that's a positive problem :) | 17:48 |
| jeremiah | heh | 17:48 |
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| lardman | does anyone here have an N900 with PR1.1 and an a2dp BT headset? | 22:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Will there be a 1.1 flash image along soon? | 22:26 |
| SpeedEvil | I seem to have screwed things up and am unsure if it is upgradeable at this point | 22:26 |
| lardman | that I don't know | 22:26 |
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| pH5 | lardman: i think so, yes | 22:27 |
| frals | SpeedEvil: uh, I think I've seen people use one already | 22:27 |
| lardman | pH5: if I phone someone, people can hear me but I can't hear them while using the headset | 22:27 |
| lardman | when you have some time could you give it a try? thanks | 22:28 |
| SpeedEvil | oh - I have a 90M installation package coming down. | 22:28 |
| SpeedEvil | So lt's see. | 22:28 |
| pillar | lardman: I do | 22:31 |
| pillar | I'll give it a try later | 22:31 |
| lardman | pillar: see above, please let me know if you have the same problem using the headset in hsp | 22:31 |
| lardman | thanks :) | 22:31 |
| pH5 | lardman: works here (hbh-ds200) | 22:31 |
| lardman | hmm | 22:32 |
| lardman | perhaps is just my headset then | 22:32 |
| lardman | seperate issue, will fort77_1.15-8maemo1 override fort77_1.15-8 ? | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | I can't find my headset. | 22:33 |
| SpeedEvil | bt headset I mean | 22:33 |
| lardman | sounds familiar to me :) | 22:33 |
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| pH5 | I'm trying to build a tor status area applet (similar to torbutton) - what would be the best way to start the needed daemons (tor, polipo) from the UI? | 22:42 |
| pH5 | I guess running tor 24/7 regardless of whether it's actually needed is not a good idea. | 22:42 |
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| lardman | what is tor? | 22:51 |
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| SpeedEvil | Tor is The Onion Router. | 22:52 |
| lardman | ah ok | 22:52 |
| SpeedEvil | It basically bounces your porn around between multiple hosts - encrypting it on the way, so you can claim it wasn't porn. | 22:52 |
| lardman | yeah, I know what the onion is | 22:53 |
| timperi | please don't bounce my porn | 22:53 |
| lardman | :) | 22:53 |
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| dragly | finally, the update worked :D | 23:37 |
| dragly | I've been uninstalling half of all my installed applications to get rid of that "Not Enough Memory" message | 23:38 |
| SpeedEvil | 57M in /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-cache-archive | 23:40 |
| SpeedEvil | so I guess still a bit to go | 23:41 |
| dragly | well, I actually ran apt-get clean ... maybe that was the thing holding up too much space for the update | 23:41 |
| dragly | Wow! I can't actually believe the update made the Firefox browser work smoothly :D | 23:42 |
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