IRC log of #maemo-devel for Wednesday, 2010-01-06

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simoneb_my python environment seems broken, if I launch python from the shell it says "'import site' failed" (and gives lots of other errors if I try to install or uninstall anything in written in python) ... anybody has a clue on how to fix it? I can't find the "site" library00:38
jebbasimoneb_: try prefacing your  command with    run-standalone.sh00:40
VDVsxsimoneb_, is that in sbox or in the device ?00:40
woglinde~lart nokia00:40
woglindefor libnl mess00:40
simoneb_i'm in the device00:40
simoneb_"run-standalone.sh python" gave the exact same output00:41
woglindehow the hell is libnl on the rootfs00:41
woglindeand not in the sdk00:41
simoneb_libnl?00:41
woglindethis makes stuff complicated00:41
woglindeyes00:41
woglindehttp://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_root_pr_armel/libnl1/1.1-2nokia1/00:41
woglindeyou need libnl for iw00:41
simoneb_are you saying my problem is related to libnl?00:42
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woglindeno00:43
woglindemy problem00:43
simoneb_jebba: i tried that, but it goes the same00:44
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woglindenow I am pissed a little bit00:45
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jebbaanyone got pidgin-otr i can test with?01:21
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jebbaDidn't i read somewhere that svn or cvs is being shut down on garage?   (in favor of gitorious or something)05:53
jebbai cant find reference to it now05:54
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oops6_4when i try to login to scratchbox its says permission denied06:30
[Tycho]Hello.06:34
[Tycho]Did you created a scratchbox user ?06:34
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jebbaoops6_4: what command are you running?  Should be:   /scratchbox/login06:45
oops6_4yeah06:50
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ruskielol... apparently nexus one also doesn't support att 3g ;)08:24
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nytowlis there some way of finding out the hildon version from python ?08:29
goodwillnytowl: try checking for __version__ strings08:40
goodwilluse help()08:40
nytowlthx goodwill08:41
goodwillon the hildon module08:41
goodwillthough that might be the version of the hildon python binding08:41
ruskiehmm jebba so when can we expect that ofono stuff directly on the device?08:48
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simoneb_I recall I saw some slides about maemo development with code examples, does anybody know where can I find them?14:24
hrwmorning14:24
simoneb_'morning.14:24
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jeremiahsimoneb_: There are tons of slides and other docs about maemo dev.15:28
jeremiahTry slideshare15:28
simoneb_yeah, thanks, i found that, that was on maemo.nokia.com, it had a nice introduction to esbox, packaging, etc.15:28
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jeremiahYeah - maemo.nokia.org has some good stuff.15:31
jeremiahIt has some example packages too which are worth looking at15:31
jeremiahwhen it comes time to package your app15:31
simoneb_any clue on how do i install the hello-world-home.so widget?15:34
simoneb_./install_home_applet.sh15:36
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simoneb_is it possible to have multiple instances of the same plugin?15:40
simoneb_i mean, the same desktop widget?15:40
xorAxAxsimoneb_: no, only a single desktop app supports it, stopwatch-home15:57
xorAxAxand people claim that it is a bug :-(15:57
xorAxAxit works because it is not a shared library15:57
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Wolfiewould someone want to make a guess why esbox doesn't find any build targets within scratchbox when creating the python/qt example?16:18
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Wolfieother python projects can be generated, and c++/qt are also generated, so it seems to be only about py/qt16:19
idrais there anything about how to build themes ? I miss N810 LCARS themes :)16:21
Wolfiei've tried to google about this and searched through all plausible maemo.org articles, but I haven't found anything that would remotely give me an idea to why this happens...16:21
Wolfieor even what I should even try to do16:21
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jebbaruskie: we may be able to ofono directly on the device, but via phonet-at (e.g. via proprietary crap). It actually looks quite promising to do it that way. I tried (for like 45 seconds so far), but don't have it yet. I mailed the dude to see how he is using pnatd so hopefully he can give me a clue.16:52
jebbapnatd is closed and i can find exactly 1 line of how to use it on the entire internet, and that line is broken  ;)16:53
jebbaso i can't read docs, nor source code,etc.16:53
xorAxAxjebba: it speaks AT on stdin/stdout, no?16:58
xorAxAxand talks ISI on the other side16:58
jebbaxorAxAx: AFAICT16:59
jebbathough just running it and typing AT doesn't do anything  ;)   nor does a /dev/ttyACM0 get created, for instance.16:59
xorAxAxhmm17:00
xorAxAxmagical17:00
jebbamagical? You got it?17:02
xorAxAxno17:02
xorAxAxi dont have a n90017:03
xorAxAxyet17:03
xorAxAxmagical because tethering is supposed to wrok17:03
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jebbaah  ;)17:09
talmaiIs there a way to get the timezone setting on maemo (e.g. "US/Central") using python?17:14
talmaithere's a method in libtime, but i didn't find any python bindings... is it possible to communicate with clockd in python?17:19
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villagertalmai: you could always try to access the filesystem directly, as if this was regular linux18:17
villagerimport os;os.readlink('/etc/localtime')[20:]18:17
talmaii've thought about that, yes, i guess it's the easiest option atm, tnx18:19
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villagerjebba: I also read about svn being shut down on garage in the thread "Where to find sources of gtk+ ..." on maemo-developers mailing list18:28
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jebbavillager: cool. I need to point this out to some folks that have no clue it's being shut down!19:10
jebbavillager: does he mean that the SVN will disappear?19:14
jebbalike those archives?19:14
villagerjebba: I don't know anything more than it says19:15
jebbahmm19:15
villagerI suspect he means that he'll import the svn into gitorious, then shutdown the server afterwards19:15
jebbahttp://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2010-January/023409.html19:15
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villagerso the history and such will still exist, but in git instead of svn, or something19:16
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pH5https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/cinaest_0.0.9-1/i386.root.log.FAILED.txt20:55
pH5does anybody know what's wrong with the autobuilder?20:56
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simoneb_why the ubuntu repository has to be so slow when I decide to install eclipse?22:21
fluxmirrors, learn it :)22:24
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blubbiHi all, I wrote a commandline python tool to send SMS via my Mobile service providers Website. As a next step I would like to port this to maemo and integrate it into the Addressbook.23:32
blubbiSo my two basic questions: Is "mechanize" available on maemo? And is there a "beginners Guide" how to make use of the maemo GUI with python?23:33
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lcuk2blubbi, regarding talking to the address book23:59
lcuk2hermes is a python based facebook to maemo contacts application23:59
lcuk2i believe its use of the api will be a great starting point for you23:59

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