IRC log of #maemo-devel for Sunday, 2010-01-03

Stskeepsintentional, camera not really calibrated00:00
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ruskiehmm telepathy needs iax2 and otr support already00:04
idraStskeeps, what does it mean that the camera is not really calibrated ?00:06
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svanheulenis there a way to play with the notification LED with python on the n900? the LED doesn't seem to be working at all and i need a way to test it00:09
idrasvanheulen, it doesn't blink when recharging ?00:10
svanheulennope00:10
idrasad00:10
svanheuleni reflashed it this morning and that's when it stopped :(00:10
* idra preferred the old N800 led btw00:10
svanheuleni guess i can try flashing it again, but i was hoping it was something i could fix00:11
idraStskeeps, ok I dloaded the mirror app, and I see that quality really stinks00:11
ruskiesvanheulen, there's some info about it on talk.maemo.org00:12
ruskiesvanheulen, you can play with the led with simple echo 9999 > /sys/some/path00:12
svanheulenoh nice00:12
svanheulenthanks :)00:12
ruskiehttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=3650100:13
ruskieI think that's the thread00:13
ruskiehmm seems like they haven't fixed the usb micro port pet00:16
ruskieerm yet00:16
ruskiehttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=39072 <-- and I was so hoping this might have been fixed in production units00:16
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andrewgodwinanyone know if you can trigger the task switcher from inside an app?00:19
svanheulenso i tried that echo in that thread and it says the directory doesn't exsist... that can't be good00:19
andrewgodwin(I have my app fullscreen, but want to replicate the button on the top-left)00:19
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ruskieandrewgodwin, ctrl+backspace00:20
ruskiesvanheulen, try just lsing the dir00:20
ruskiejust to see what you have there00:20
andrewgodwinruskie: I meant "I want to put a button in my app which does it"00:20
andrewgodwinI wasn't really clear, I guess :)00:20
svanheulenonly thing i see in the "leds" directory is "twl4030:vibrator" ... i'm missing the lp5523 files :(00:22
svanheuleni'm not good with drivers/hardware in linux but i'm guess that means it's not detecting that hardware?00:24
pH5_lp5523 doesn't use the kernel's standard led interface, that's all00:24
pH5_svanheulen: check /sys/bus/i2c/devices/2-003200:25
pH5_I think mce is driving the leds via those sysfs files00:26
svanheulenyup, i see that file, it's a symlink to /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-2/2-003200:27
pH5_andrewgodwin: you can fake that keycode with XTest, but I'm not sure if there isn't a better API.00:27
pH5_XTestFakeKeyEvent00:28
svanheulenand in there i see bus, modalias, name, power, subsystem, uevent00:28
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andrewgodwinpH5_: yeah, I'd rather not have to drag out XTest00:29
andrewgodwinit seems ever so slightly hackish00:29
pH5_svanheulen: and I take everything back. I have several leds:lp5523:* links in there that actually point into /sys/class/leds00:32
Jaffaandrewgodwin: I've seen references to it being done - ask VDVsx how he does it in BlueMaemo00:32
andrewgodwinJaffa: good idea. I was trying to remember where I'd seen it done before00:33
pH5_the n900 kernel drivers are a lot nicer than n810 ones00:33
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svanheulenpH5_, so do you think flashing again might help or is there anything else i can try?00:39
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andrewgodwinaha! os.system("dbus-send --type=signal --session /com/nokia/hildon_desktop com.nokia.hildon_desktop.exit_app_view")00:40
andrewgodwinnow why didn't I think of that00:40
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svanheulenbah lost connection00:40
svanheulenpH5_, is there anything i can try to fix it or you think flashing again might help?00:41
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pH5_andrewgodwin: oh, d-bus api. that's certainly better. although - doesn't python have nice dbus bindings? creating a new dbus-send process just for that seems wasteful.01:09
pH5_svanheulen: I have no idea, actually. is the leds_lp5523 module loaded? does rmmoding/insmoding it show anything meaningful in dmesg?01:11
andrewgodwinpH5_: It does have d-bus bindings, although my encounters with d-bus up till now have been anything but nice :)01:11
svanheulenyeah leds_lp5523 is loaded, nothing shows in dmesg about it when i rmmod/insmod01:13
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ruskiehmm jebba if you're felling bored maybe create an initramfs that would make it possible to rescue tho system if need be... maybe have a few second timeout before continuing boot from it01:39
jebbaruskie: trying to quiltify the kernel so i can patch  it easily. Know anything about quilt?01:40
ruskienot really01:40
ruskieI'd use git for that anyway ;)01:40
jebbaruskie: well, they are two different things. They can work together though.01:41
jebbaquilt applies patches in debian/rules for example.01:41
jebbayou could keep those patches in a git repo (which iswhat i'll do)01:42
jebbaI'm trying to "quiltify" a debian/rules file for a Maemo kernel. I'm not quite sure all the places where I need to add "$(QUILT_STAMPFN)" as there isn't just a simple single "build-stamp". Hints?  :)01:42
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ruskienot really01:42
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ruskieI consider debian/ stuff a ton of hacks that make ebuilds look sane01:42
woglinderuskie hm01:43
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jebbaruskie: well if i can just add files to debian/patches, it makes things much easier01:46
jebbawas easy to do with burgerspace, a bit harder with the kernel. I think i got it though ;)01:46
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jebbadammit. I quiltified the fkn thing but the Maemo-kernel environment can't even install quilt02:16
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jebbawoo hoo! NAT via n900 & gprs0  :)07:27
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jebbaThe method driver /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found.08:47
jebbaIn SDK, ARMEL08:47
* jebba sleep. another day...08:49
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hrwhi20:56
hrw[sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/pkg/maemo/clutter_0_8] > debuild -b -uc20:56
hrwsb_gcc_wrapper (gcc): /scratchbox/compilers/cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7/bin/sbox-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: No such file or directory20:56
hrwdpkg-architecture: warning: Couldn't determine gcc system type, falling back to default (native compilation)20:56
hrwis it normal in up-to-date sdk?20:56
lcukhrw, i think ive broken my scratchbox like that once20:58
hrw'fakeroot debian/rules binary' works20:59
hrwI wonder will nokia maemo team will finally get all repositories into working state...20:59
hrwecksun: Package libgles2-dev has no installation candidate20:59
hrwhow can I build clutter if I cannot install required libraries...21:00
lcukdunno atm hrw, but i agree it needs cleansing21:01
hrwtime to complain on maemo-devel ML (whre it will be ignored)21:01
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woglindehi hrw21:05
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woglindehrw you need the bin lin in21:06
woglindesources21:06
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woglindedeb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/bigpersonalnumber nokia-binaries21:06
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woglindehm21:08
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woglindere hrw21:08
hrw20:06 < hrw> deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/4bc37c7c77ebe90177c050b805a8dc79 nokia-binaries21:09
woglindehm damn where was the binaries side21:09
hrw20:06 < hrw> voila21:09
hrw20:06 < hrw> thats from official maemo sdk vm image21:09
woglindehm21:09
woglindenever occured here21:09
woglindebut you find it21:09
ecksunhrw, ?21:12
hrwecksun: sorry, irc client extended ^E: to your nick21:13
ecksunnps :)21:13
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woglinde_re21:17
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jebbawoglinde_: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/eula/index.php  to get bigpersonalnumber to add to sdk21:20
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woglindejebba jupp21:23
woglindeI searched that21:23
woglindebut didnt find21:23
woglindeand hrw needed it21:23
jebbaah heh21:23
jebbai wonder if it will fix the broken Maemo-kernel scratchbox... /me goes to try21:23
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woglindere ph522:36
pH5hej woglinde22:38
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