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xorAxAxhow can i see the buildbot outputs?01:38
xorAxAxthe logs etc.01:38
BabelOxorAxAx: click on the link you receive by mail01:49
xorAxAxBabelO: ok, i havent got a mail :)01:49
BabelOyesturday i got it really later afetr build failed01:49
xorAxAxah, its in the queue01:50
xorAxAxthe queue seems stuck01:50
BabelOxorAxAx: what is your build ?01:50
xorAxAxi uploaded stopwatch-home01:50
BabelOxorAxAx: ah ok :) i got the first release last day01:51
BabelOnot -home01:51
BabelObut the standalone01:51
xorAxAxi like mine better :) its based on eggtimer01:51
BabelOok01:53
BabelOok now i think i got gdal 1.5.2 to build01:53
BabelOlook like in scratchbox all is ok01:53
BabelObut lot of depends01:53
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PelapDoes anyone know why the N900 isn't on Nokia RDA anymore ?04:45
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ruskie*yawn*08:37
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hrwmorning11:32
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BabelO_morning12:03
BabelO_I ve question about libtool package, and dependencies for lib-qt412:03
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xorAxAxhow can i migrate a package from extras-devel to extras-testing?12:17
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ruskieBabelO_, are you building qt as well?12:39
BabelO_ruskie, no12:42
BabelO_i mean my application use Qt12:42
BabelO_so i need to add a deps to libqt4-maemo5-dev12:42
BabelO_to get qmake12:42
BabelO_and be able to build my application12:42
ruskiebuild dependency only12:42
BabelO_but i don't want to install libqt4-maemo5-dev on my device12:43
BabelO_ruskie, ah, how i do that ? in control file12:43
ruskieyup12:43
BabelO_ruskie, and my other question is about libtool12:43
ruskieBuild-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), libncurses-dev, <-- i.e.12:43
ruskieother than it being a sucky tool what about it?12:44
BabelO_look like my gdal package  copy debian libtool to gdal package and do not autobuold it12:44
ruskieerm12:45
ruskielibtool is a preinstalled thing12:45
BabelO_yes and no12:45
BabelO_it can be a debian package12:45
BabelO_and the configure application build its own12:46
ruskieno it doesn't12:46
ruskieit just links to the one in the system12:46
ruskieor has one included but usually it links to the system one12:46
BabelO_the rules file i have is very bad so12:46
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BabelO_look like it try to cp the one from the system to override the one provided12:47
ruskieif it runs an autogen.sh then yeah it would12:49
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xorAxAxBabelO_:  how can i migrate a package from extras-devel to extras-testing?12:56
BabelO_xorAxAx, i don't know, i m curious too about the answer12:58
ruskiexorAxAx, after fixing all the issues and getting a sufficient ammount of good votes?13:00
xorAxAxwhat kind of votes? do you mean the karma? isnt that only useful for packages in extras-testing, ruskie?13:01
ruskiePromotion from Fremantle Extras-devel to Extras-testing and Extras-testing to Extras is done through the maemo.org package interface and the process is described at Promoting packages to extras-testing.13:04
ruskiehttp://maemo.org/packages/13:04
ruskiehttp://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing#Promoting_packages_to_extras-testing13:05
ruskiefrom: http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras13:05
JaffaxorAxAx: The maintainer clicks the "Promote package" when it's in -devel (to go to -testing) and again, when it has enough votes, in -testing (to go to Extras)13:05
xorAxAxJaffa: ah, i wasnt logged in13:05
hrwJaffa: so devel->testing->extras?13:06
Jaffahrw: Correct.13:07
xorAxAxruskie: the second link is broken13:09
hrwis there a page which lists all available toolbar icons?13:11
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ruskiehmm jebba how about an ext4 module for the default kernel? would that be possible without a kernel reinstall?15:26
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hrwin theory yes16:06
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jebbaya, ruskie16:54
jebbaruskie: i'll build one now with ext4, CIF, smb etc16:56
jebbahmm, ruskie also userspace issues of course. And selecting between ext4 and ext4dev ;)16:58
jebbaruskie: looks like busybox doesn't have ext4 support so...16:59
jebbait does have e2fsprogs, such as /sbin/fsck.ext4dev   but no mount, which is of course a prob  ;)17:00
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ruskiejebba, hmm shouldn't be to hard to get the relevant userland bits17:08
jebbaya, but they'll have to be built too. I could check out a rebuild of busybox too.  I want me getopts  ;)17:11
jebbaruskie: also note the ext4 is from 2.6.28...this was way back in the day.  Even 2.6.32 just had a huge pile of ext4 fixes last week. It's not very mature in .28....17:12
BabelO_ruskie, my gdal build disappear from buildbot, is it normal ?17:13
ruskiejebba, yeah... sucks17:17
ruskieI do hope sometime they'll update to .32 or something17:17
ruskieadding ksm to the mix might be nice17:17
ruskieBabelO_, no clue17:17
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BabelO_ruskie, ok :(17:19
BabelO_garage is very slow today17:19
jebbay17:20
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ruskiejebba, whats that getopts thingy?17:49
ruskieI take it you mean getopts to get options in scripts?17:50
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jebbaruskie: ya.  Missing in busybox17:54
jebbahttps://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660617:54
povbotBug 6606: No getopts, called by init-functions (lsb-base)17:54
ruskieahh17:55
ruskiecan live with the one in bash or zsh on my end ;)17:55
jebbayes, but can your initscripts  ;)17:56
ruskieif I have any that might need it I'll just switch them over to bash :)17:56
ruskieinit scripts aren't a big boogey to write ;)17:57
DocScrutinizer51can live with busybox far away from wherever I put my hands on17:57
ruskie:)17:57
jebbaruskie: ya, but no bash on stock maemo5, so if you package something you cant depend on bash.  Or does it come stock? I dont think so.17:57
ruskieit's in one of the repos17:58
ruskiepool/maemo5.0/free/b/bash/bash_2.05b-26osso7+0m5_armel.deb17:58
jebbaok, i just started my build to make ext4dev, smb, NAT, etc..   But rambo told me NAT modules won't work as he tried already.17:58
ruskieow?17:59
ruskiewell I guess I'll need to give tinc a try as soon as I figure out how to configure it17:59
jebbahmm. Guess could make the package depend on bash and use it.   Cool, thx ruskie that gave me an idea how to solve the asterisk init problem  :=18:00
jebba:)18:00
ruskieor any other vpn solution I can use without needing to hide it behind NAT18:00
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DocScrutinizer51I guess neither busybox nor bash is normative for initscripts. I'd go for POSIX18:01
DocScrutinizer51bash know how to POSIX afaik. No idea bout busybox18:02
jebba #!/bin/POSIX18:03
jebbaheh18:03
DocScrutinizer51lol18:03
jebbaanyway, i'm outta here for a bit have fun18:03
ruskiedash if we really must18:03
ruskieinfact dash is great for such thing18:04
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ruskies18:04
ruskiesmall light and rather efficient18:04
ruskiehttp://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/store_sms_messages_in_an_imap_folder/ <-- /me wonders if anyone is interested in this18:07
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xorAxAxJaffa: thanks18:27
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jebbahttp://www.freemoe.org/users/jebba/kernel/modules/   ruskie19:33
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jebbacool. The modules I built that were already in the kernel, such as ext2.ko, have the same size as the stock modules. Just a good sign ;)19:58
jebba  woo hoo!  ` sudo insmod ./configs.ko ; zcat /proc/config.gz `    works, for example  :)20:00
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jebbaruskie: ext4 modprobed ok  :)20:07
jebbaNAT doesn't though ...20:08
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KhertanHelp !21:47
Khertanunrecognized file type for '/home/khertan/gittry/git-core-1.6.3.3/debian/git-core/usr/lib/git-core/git-mergetool--lib' at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-etch/bin/dpkg-shlibdeps line 120. make: *** [binary-arch] Error 921:47
Khertanan idea ?21:47
Khertanok ... i ll try to rewrite git myself in python instead of trying to make it compilable for extras builder ... will be easier21:47
Khertan:)21:47
Khertanmaybe a bit longer21:47
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jebbaKhertan: you have the full log somewhere? from the builder?21:49
Khertanjebba: before spamming the builder ;) i m trying to build my self on scratchbox21:50
Khertanmaking all the dependancies21:50
Khertantrying to avoid all errors21:50
jebbaah, ya git would be fantastic21:50
Khertanmy first try on autobuilder was a failed due to a missing depandancy pcvs or somethings like that21:51
Khertanjebba: yeah ... but it s a bit too hard for me21:51
jebbahmm, may already be in tools though21:52
jebbaah, git is in scratchbox, but not part of a dpkg21:54
Khertan:)21:54
Khertanthe difficulty21:54
Khertangit version 1.5.6.121:55
ruskiegit --version21:55
ruskiegit version 1.5.6.121:55
Khertan;)21:56
ruskiewhat's wrong with that versoin?21:56
Khertana bit old21:56
Khertan:)21:56
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ruskieworks just fine21:56
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Khertanyes ... it ll be acceptable if available for n900 :)21:56
jebbawhy is *all* garage https:  ?  surely we don't need to encrypt me checking out Khertan's public build logs.  That's probably killing the server unless they have a fancy crypto card of some sort (which i really doubt)21:57
Khertan:)21:57
ruskieyou can u-e http probably21:58
jebbaKhertan: you could probably just drop the Build-Dep: cvsps   ...21:58
Khertanbecause it s ... a question of style21:58
jebbaand build without it.21:58
Khertanjebba: hum ... there isn't not only that21:58
jebbaruskie: it redirects to https always21:58
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Khertanso ... i'm tired ... let s someone else trying if he want ....22:07
Khertanmake // autotools and debian rules are clearly not for me ...22:07
jebbaKhertan: i'm going to give it a shot nwo22:07
jebbai'm just finally starting to figure out the debian packaging.  It feels more crufty than packaging RPMs, which kind of suprises me actually, since I always found apt so much better than yum.22:08
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Khertanjebba: good luck ... :)22:13
ruskielol22:14
ruskieconsidering he's toying with the kernel I don't think there'll be much of a problem :)22:14
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jebbai think it took me longer to figure out the burgerspace icon issues than the kernel  ;)22:42
jebbagit-core building22:43
jebbathis is my "live" build directory, fwiw: http://www.freemoe.org/users/jebba/scratchbox/git-core/freemoe/22:43
jebbaug, it trys to wget some crap from the net to build docs.22:48
jebbawill kill that.22:48
jebbahttp://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd22:49
woglindejebba hm?22:49
jebbabuilding git-core22:49
woglindeaeh?22:49
woglindedisable doc22:49
woglindein configure somewhere22:50
jebbaya, doing that now22:50
jebba(05:48:49 PM) jebba: will kill that.22:50
jebba:)22:50
woglindehm kill could mean a lot22:50
Khertando not forget to disable doc in the install too :)23:00
Khertani ve made this mistake the first time :p23:00
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jebbadoc is ok to install if it lands in /opt23:06
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KhertanHi again :)23:19
woglindere khertan23:19
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