| BabelO | VDVsx, ruskie still around ? | 00:38 |
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| VDVsx | yup | 00:39 |
| BabelO | VDVsx: i got this while trying to package gdal | 00:40 |
| BabelO | dh_clean: Sorry, but 5 is the highest compatibility level supported by this debhelper. | 00:40 |
| woglinde | BabelO hm | 00:40 |
| BabelO | make -j8 | 00:41 |
| BabelO | oups sorry | 00:41 |
| BabelO | wrong window | 00:41 |
| woglinde | babel you have to clean the rules file a little bit | 00:41 |
| woglinde | it seems | 00:41 |
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| BabelO | woglinde: ok, rules are under DEBIAN ? i ve to see a real howto about all those stuff :) i m usually a opensuse or slackware user | 00:42 |
| VDVsx | BabelO, you probably need a debhelper higher than 5 | 00:43 |
| woglinde | vdvsx there is none in sdk | 00:43 |
| VDVsx | under the debian folder check the file compact | 00:43 |
| woglinde | so he have to rewrite the rules file | 00:43 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, ?? | 00:43 |
| woglinde | vdvsx where is debhelper 7 in sdk | 00:44 |
| BabelO | woglinde: ok i see compat contain 7 | 00:44 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, how said 7 ? | 00:44 |
| VDVsx | BabelO, change it to 5 and see if it works, most of the times works | 00:45 |
| woglinde | vdvsx more and more packages switching do debhelper 7 | 00:45 |
| woglinde | *sigh* | 00:45 |
| woglinde | -> BabelO> dh_clean: Sorry, but 5 is the highest compatibility level supported by this debhelper. | 00:45 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, you can compile it, no one stops you :) | 00:45 |
| woglinde | he didnt paste the error from dpkg-buildpackage for nothing | 00:45 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, ok I have read that, I miss read you sentence perhaps | 00:46 |
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| BabelO | VDVsx, woglinde ok with 5 it works now | 00:47 |
| VDVsx | :) | 00:47 |
| woglinde | I have one package where | 00:47 |
| BabelO | ok i ve to find this .change file so | 00:47 |
| woglinde | dh_somestuff_override dont work with debhelper 5 | 00:47 |
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| VDVsx | BabelO, you probably have to change the control file as well | 00:48 |
| woglinde | vdvsx jupp | 00:48 |
| BabelO | VDVsx: right i see dbhelper 7 | 00:48 |
| woglinde | hm sdk should complained earlier | 00:48 |
| woglinde | sdk+ does | 00:48 |
| woglinde | in such cases | 00:48 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, it normally happens to the new apps, but in the older, most of the times the dev's only changed the number, the rules are the same | 00:49 |
| woglinde | vdvsx jupp | 00:50 |
| woglinde | did the trick often enough | 00:50 |
| VDVsx | woglinde, they've to switch to debh 7 | 00:50 |
| VDVsx | that's a issue for the sbox people IIRC | 00:51 |
| woglinde | hm Ithought for mameo | 00:51 |
| woglinde | but I would like working cmake support in sdk+ more right now | 00:52 |
| BabelO | why i did not see the .changes file ? | 00:52 |
| BabelO | and other question, does libgdal compiled like this install in /opt on the device ? | 00:53 |
| woglinde | babelO hm should be automagicly this days | 00:54 |
| woglinde | but I am nor really sure | 00:54 |
| woglinde | maybee vdvsx knows what to do | 00:54 |
| BabelO | woglinde: because on my app i fake a symlink in /usr/lib as i don't want to change /etc/ld.so.conf file | 00:54 |
| woglinde | BabelO are you building for fremantle? | 00:55 |
| BabelO | else LD_LIBRARY_PATH with run-standalone.sh should be needed | 00:55 |
| woglinde | look at maemo-optify | 00:55 |
| BabelO | woglinde: yes | 00:55 |
| BabelO | ok | 00:55 |
| VDVsx | BabelO, better install directly into /opt (change the rules file) or add maemo-optify in the rules file | 00:55 |
| woglinde | which will does thinks automagicly | 00:55 |
| BabelO | good thanks | 00:55 |
| woglinde | ah in the rules file | 00:55 |
| woglinde | okay | 00:55 |
| jebba | maemo-optify-buildpackage <--- makes the /opt work very very very easy | 00:57 |
| woglinde | ah | 00:58 |
| woglinde | hihi | 00:58 |
| woglinde | will try this | 00:58 |
| BabelO | maemo-optify-deb --auto | 01:01 |
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| BabelO | this is really crazzy to build package | 01:07 |
| fnordianslip | how do i get maemo-optify-buildpackage in my sb? doesn't seem to be there at mo ... | 01:23 |
| fnordianslip | ah. forget it | 01:23 |
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| fnordianslip | oh. no. still need answer ^ :( | 01:24 |
| BabelO | fnordianslip apt-cache search maemo-optify ? | 01:24 |
| fnordianslip | only get pymaemo-optify | 01:25 |
| BabelO | ah i get it here | 01:25 |
| BabelO | not maemo-optify-buildpackage but the others yes | 01:25 |
| BabelO | http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/maemo-optify/blobs/master/README | 01:26 |
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| fnordianslip | ah extras-devel | 01:28 |
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| jebba | fnordianslip actually, not in extras-devel either | 01:49 |
| jebba | to get the maemo-optify-buildpackage you have to grab it from the git tree | 01:50 |
| jebba | easiest to just then `echo auto > debian/optify` | 01:50 |
| fnordianslip | jebba: cheers | 01:54 |
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| woglinde | good nite | 02:01 |
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| ruskie | hehe nice realname ;) | 09:10 |
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| BabelO_ | moring | 11:12 |
| BabelO_ | morning | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | morning | 11:12 |
| * ruskie hopes that any future updates won't break his modifications badly... | 11:12 | |
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| hrw | morning | 12:02 |
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| plr_ | there seems to be an update to the sdk | 12:44 |
| plr_ | any idea if it can be upgraded somehow or do I need to make a complete new install? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | update to sdk? | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | oh boy, that means PR1.1 is underway | 12:45 |
| plr_ | http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/c05693a1-265c-4c7f-a389-fc227db4c465/Maemo_5_SDK.html?cp=1209A&entry=Maemo5article6 | 12:45 |
| Stskeeps | hm, that's the pr1.0 SDK | 12:46 |
| hrw | plr_: 'fakeroot apt-get update;fakeroot apt-get upgrade' | 12:46 |
| plr_ | yes but it's updated | 12:46 |
| plr_ | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/fremantle/5.0_vs_5.0update1_content_comparison.html | 12:46 |
| Stskeeps | plr_: when did you install your SDK? | 12:46 |
| plr_ | Stskeeps: hmm, like 1½ weeks ago | 12:47 |
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| Stskeeps | check dpkg -l and that should tell if you have a recent one :P | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | like, check packages that were supposed to be changed | 12:47 |
| glogiotatidis | hello | 12:47 |
| glogiotatidis | can anybody help me with a nasty pymaemo problem? | 12:48 |
| glogiotatidis | i'm building a treeview with text columns. Every cell contains several lines of text (e.g. "1\n2\n3\n") but I only get the first two lines displayed. How can I solve this? | 12:50 |
| ruskie | maemo-version 5.0release+0m5 5.0update1 <-- this certainly looks interesting | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | ruskie: you're updated then | 12:58 |
| ruskie | nope just looking at the diff | 12:59 |
| BabelO_ | hi | 13:08 |
| BabelO_ | hi ruskie | 13:08 |
| BabelO_ | still trying to build gdal in autobuilder :( proj works well | 13:08 |
| plr_ | ruskie: yes that's the one I mean.. I wonder when it was added | 13:10 |
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| BabelO_ | VDVsx, hard to get the missing dep :) need more other now | 15:28 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, eheh, one time I had to build 7 packages to get one of the deps for me app :P | 15:29 |
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| BabelO_ | VDVsx, from mind do you know someone working on an aplication which send to FM radio RDS your received call or text message and mp3 tags ? i ve done part of this app and would like to finish qlandkarte before continuing | 15:31 |
| ruskie | VDVsx, did it manually or used some tool? | 15:31 |
| VDVsx | ruskie, I built every package for maemo, based in the debian ones, not too difficult | 15:32 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, not sure if I get it, play the call via the fm transmission ? | 15:33 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, no at all | 15:33 |
| BabelO_ | my app display current mp3 tags on FM radio via RDS display | 15:33 |
| ruskie | VDVsx, yeah... but with xmms2 that is turning to be a nightmare and with some others | 15:33 |
| BabelO_ | then if you receive a call it display the name of the caller on radio RDS | 15:33 |
| ruskie | those debs just include to many dependencies | 15:33 |
| BabelO_ | and same if you receive SMS :) | 15:33 |
| ruskie | BabelO_, nice | 15:33 |
| BabelO_ | ruskie, yes, that's geek. but very usefull when i drive and want to see who wrote me SMS without reading the phone | 15:34 |
| BabelO_ | but before i want to publish this gps application | 15:35 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, other question, how can i check that autobuilder have the package i miss in scratchbox, before sending it | 15:36 |
| VDVsx | ruskie, divide and conquer :) with some patience you can do it :D | 15:38 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, by default the autobuilder starts from scratch, so you need to provide most of the deps that aren't "standart" in maemo | 15:39 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, ok, because i see it get some deps that i miss here in standart scratchbox | 15:39 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, can you link me your app ? the fm + rds one ? just for curiosity | 15:42 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, i ve no requested garage for the moment want to finish first | 15:43 |
| BabelO_ | i just write text to /sys/class/i2c-adapter/3-0063 if i remeber or 2-0022 | 15:44 |
| BabelO_ | and write rds_ps_name | 15:44 |
| BabelO_ | i do the connection with all dbus-message | 15:44 |
| BabelO_ | but i do it with Qt again :) | 15:45 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, oh, I thought you already have a similar app for other platform :P | 15:45 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, i have a N800 + N900 + HTC P3300 + HTC blueangel and two others | 15:45 |
| BabelO_ | but none that get this hardware :) | 15:45 |
| VDVsx | BabelO_, N800 has FM radio IIRC | 15:47 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, yes i know, but don't think about rds transmitter | 15:47 |
| BabelO_ | btw i did not see someone who add RDS to N900 receiver | 15:48 |
| BabelO_ | to save radio as MP3 with good names :) | 15:48 |
| BabelO_ | VDVsx, what i say before about my app is about FM transmitter of N900 | 15:51 |
| * Jaffa thinks it'd be cool if the FM radio was used to find unbroadcasted parts of the spectrum and auto-shift the frequency of the FM transmitter (then the radio tracks it using RDS) | 15:51 | |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, might be tricky | 15:52 |
| BabelO_ | Jaffa, so you need a format like Matroska container, for audio only | 15:52 |
| BabelO_ | just recording RDS data in another layer | 15:53 |
| Jaffa | VDVsx: Tx & rx at same time? | 15:53 |
| BabelO_ | ah i understand | 15:54 |
| BabelO_ | but to get fm radio you need to plug headphone | 15:54 |
| BabelO_ | maybe it can be disabled in kernel driver so transmitter power can be improved | 15:55 |
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| Jaffa | BabelO_: Plugging in headphones to act as an aerial isn't the worst thing in the world. Increasing the tx power may work, but'd be illegal to use ;-p | 16:26 |
| BabelO_ | Jaffa, illegal, yes | 16:28 |
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| jebba | fnordianslippers: hey, i have a correction for you for something i mentioned yesterday. I gotta run, but here it is: | 16:38 |
| jebba | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba#maemo-optify | 16:38 |
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| Acedip | i have installed libqt4-maemo5-examples with apt, now where are they installed? | 16:48 |
| Acedip | how do i find them? | 16:48 |
| BabelO_ | Acedip, look in /opt/qt4-maemo/examples | 16:49 |
| BabelO_ | something like that | 16:49 |
| Acedip | got it.ty | 16:54 |
| Acedip | damn!! they are binary files. | 16:55 |
| Acedip | not the source of those examples | 16:55 |
| BabelO_ | Acedip, source for exmaple is in gitorious | 16:58 |
| BabelO_ | wait | 16:58 |
| BabelO_ | Acedip, http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/x11-maemo/trees/4.6-fremantle/examples | 16:59 |
| Acedip | woah!! what are they, examples for the whole freemantel | 17:00 |
| Acedip | you can build your own example_only_fremantle | 17:00 |
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| ruskie | jebba, hmm is there a disable switch for that maemo-optify call? | 18:11 |
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| jebba | ruskie: see debian/optify file. I think you can just put "none" in there to disable it if you want. | 18:27 |
| jebba | Acedip: ` dpkg -L libqt4-maemo5-examples ` is a way to see what files are in an installed package (--contents if it is a .deb) | 18:27 |
| Acedip | ah.ohk | 18:29 |
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| ruskie | jebba, ahhh | 18:33 |
| ruskie | hmm why are speex and libjpeg6 in non-free ? | 18:33 |
| jebba | ruskie: not sure, but the upstream is BSD; so nokia doesnt have to release the source (well, in the case of speex, not certain about jpeg). Unfortunately they decided *not* to release the source, probably for some strategic purpose (e.g.. political not technical). Totally blows, of course. | 18:35 |
| ruskie | probably could be replaced by normal jpeg and speex | 18:35 |
| ruskie | hmm seems both jpeg and speex are bsd | 18:36 |
| jebba | yes, unless of course they did changes to them for maemo (which they are not required to disclose) | 18:37 |
| ruskie | hmm am I wrong or am I seeing some free stuff in extras non-free... I'm guessing it's stuff that people are still working on and don't want to release the source | 18:38 |
| ruskie | extras/testing/devel I meant non-free | 18:38 |
| jebba | ah, well, even if they are still "working on it" they are required to release the source regardless. But i dont know which packages you are talking about. I think some are probably tagged "non-free" here and there which are now free, but haven't been updated. This page has info, if you havent seen it yet: http://wiki.maemo.org/Free_Maemo | 18:40 |
| ruskie | vulture's claw | 18:41 |
| ruskie | webkit | 18:41 |
| ruskie | atleast browsing the pool shows them in non-free | 18:41 |
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| ruskie | also anyone using dropbear ssh instead of openssh on the n900? | 19:04 |
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| * ruskie starts clearing out the various xmms2 deps that either aren't available or are pointless on the n900 | 20:30 | |
| ruskie | hmm does the N900 cpu have a FPU? | 20:59 |
| * jebba getting "public" build box set up for people that don't ability/space/time/machine to have a /scratchbox | 20:59 | |
| woglinde | jebba hm nice | 21:00 |
| woglinde | jebba give me an account | 21:00 |
| woglinde | until sdk+ supports cmake | 21:00 |
| jebba | woglinde: what's your email? | 21:01 |
| jebba | note, i'm powering this thing up & down occassionally to test it out | 21:01 |
| jebba | like i'm not sure if qemu -smp 4 or whatever uses 4 CPUs on host, or just appears as such on guest | 21:02 |
| jebba | gonna test that next | 21:02 |
| jebba | then reboot whole box to make sure everything comes up | 21:02 |
| ruskie | hmm maybe should setup a xen VM for that but lacking another 2 gb of mem in it | 21:02 |
| jebba | running this monster of a qemu command to start it: | 21:03 |
| jebba | /usr/local/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -drive file=/kvm/flauta.qcow2,index=0,if=virtio,cache=writeback,boot=on -drive file=/kvm/www-freemoe.qcow2,index=1,if=virtio,cache=writeback -drive file=/kvm/scratchbox1.qcow2,index=2,if=virtio,cache=writeback -cpu qemu32 -m 1024 -vnc :5 -daemonize -enable-kvm -name flauta -net nic,vlan=0,model=virtio -net user,hostfwd=tcp:63.247.92.155:22-:22,hostfwd=tcp:63.247.92.155:80-:80 -runas jebba | 21:03 |
| ruskie | insane | 21:03 |
| jebba | virtio ftw | 21:03 |
| ruskie | :) | 21:04 |
| jebba | building a full kernel now, then going to see if -smp 8 speeds it up at all, then going to reboot entire box to make sure it all comes up ok on reboot, then it will be more or less live | 21:04 |
| jebba | I just did the /scratchbox install, but not the SDK install on it yet. | 21:04 |
| jebba | oh, then will back up the image, then done-ish | 21:05 |
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| jebba | oh fuck ya. -smp 8 parallizes qemu across 8 cpus on the *host*. kvm/qemu is just fantastico. | 21:10 |
| ruskie | :) | 21:15 |
| jebba | ping woglinde | 21:16 |
| ruskie | hmm what's the version of python in the sdk??? I'm getting a problem with waf failing to find python > 2.4 but I tried apt-get install python2.5 but it says it's already latest | 21:16 |
| jebba | ciao for now | 21:18 |
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| jebba | woglinde: you're set up. i /msg you info | 21:42 |
| jebba | if anyone else wants an acct let me know. I wont be around much this weekend, but will check in occassionally | 21:45 |
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| jebba | woglinde: ok, /scratchbox and SDK set up. So just /scratchbox/login and you should be good to go. I installed (well, its running right now for you), the whole SDK devkit | 22:00 |
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| ruskie | hmm fun while trying to dpkg-buildpackage on xmms2 I get: AttributeError: 'cc_taskgen' object has no attribute 'add_objects' from waf | 22:39 |
| ruskie | any clue anyone? | 22:39 |
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| * ruskie tried fennec on his n900... not a nice experience | 23:14 | |
| ruskie | I wonder what one could to with KSM on the n900 | 23:16 |
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