IRC log of #maemo-bugs for Tuesday, 2010-01-19

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jebbahmm, appears www.maemo.org != maemo.org15:13
jebba(noticed this by going here and checking out profiles: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Developer_Device_Queue )15:13
* andre__ thinks that https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8002 triggers https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8115 . evil.15:13
povbot`Bug 8002: RSS Reader tries to connect for refresh unconditionnaly15:13
povbot`Bug 8115: Having a modal dialog in background, Alarm dialog blocks entire UI => battery removal15:13
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anidelGeneralAntilles, the bug I was complaining about last time was the one related to the WiFi when you're not able to reconnect to it unless you reboot16:07
GeneralAntillesSounds like a 770 bug. <_<16:07
anidelno not that one :)16:09
anidelthe 770 doesn't even see the available WiFis16:09
GeneralAntillesAh, I see.16:10
anidelthis works (actually WORKED more than fine) .. but now (let's say out of the blue) it doesn't re-connect to a known wifi16:10
anidelfor example16:10
anidelI am home connected to WiFi, go to work and connect there.. go back home.. no luck16:10
anidelreboot, connects..16:10
anidelnow it's even worse16:10
anidelwent into the office, connected to Wifi fine.. and now.. I find it disconnected and unable to connect to the office wifi16:11
anideland keeps trying..16:11
anidellike right know... then gives up. The bug is submitted already16:12
anidelas I am not alone...16:12
anidelit was Bug 7777 that now is something different :D16:14
anidelbut that was a duplicate anyway16:14
anidelBug #641616:15
anidelcan't wait for PR1.2 :)16:16
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* andre__ wonders if English language has a counterpart to "improvements"... "worsifications"? :-P19:48
GeneralAntillesandre__, you used "I tend" again. :P19:53
anidelwhere?19:54
anidelregression ?19:54
andre__GeneralAntilles, fuck. I need to put a big Post-It here19:54
andre__what was the alternative you offered?19:55
anidelwhat's wrong with I tend?19:55
andre__my english is borken.19:55
anidelbroken?19:55
andre__...and I promised GeneralAntilles to get a free N3000 with kitchensink enabled for pimping it to be correct :-P19:55
anidel:)19:55
anidelyou reckon it'll take a while to make it correct, I see :)19:56
GeneralAntillesanidel, he means "I lean towards" or "I generally close these"19:57
andre__All a question of training. The first teacher ever who told me that my pronounciation of "th" is wrong was after 8 years of english. took me a while to correct it :)19:57
GeneralAntillesHaha19:57
* andre__ mumbles "I lean, I lean, I lean towards"19:58
anidelGeneralAntilles, why, what it does mean in english then?19:58
andre__especially because nobody had told me before, plus he thought that I do it on purpose and be aware of it19:58
anidelGeneralAntilles, may I see an example of a wrong "I tend" use?19:59
GeneralAntilles"I tend to close that as INVALID."19:59
GeneralAntilles"I tend to close _those_ as INVALID." is acceptable.20:00
anidelwowow.. why?20:00
GeneralAntillesTemporal agreement, you could asy.20:00
anidelwhat those (plural) instead of "that" singular?20:00
GeneralAntillestend is a future thing20:00
anidelor I am missing something...20:00
GeneralAntilles"Those" would be "those types of bugs (or things)".20:01
GeneralAntillesAlthough that's not quite the intended meaning Andre was going for.20:01
anidelyes.. that would that particular bug20:01
GeneralAntillesMore like "I'm leaning towards closing that as INVALID."20:01
anidelah now I see what you mean...20:01
anidelI tend is more something like "I tend to do that [usually]"20:01
GeneralAntillesYeah20:02
* andre__ is going to rent the wall on the other side of the street to put a big poster there saying "I lean towards" that he heas to look at the entire day20:02
anidelbrb20:02
GeneralAntillesHehe20:02
andre__GeneralAntilles, did you file a ticket about raising the "confirmed by 3 votes" threshold? if not, you're highly welcome to do so :)20:06
andre__hmm. request for creating a "mnemosyne" product in Bugzilla. This looks a lot like "maemosync" (internal name for all the PC Suite stuff)...20:09
GeneralAntillesandre__, haven't, will do.20:17
GeneralAntilleshttp://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/20:17
andre__I have two cubes here with some letters on them, let's see what word we could get...20:18
GeneralAntillesandre__, out of interest, what's GNOME's threshold?20:19
andre__we have disabled votes completely20:20
anidelI undestand Andre "I tend" .. in Italian is similar20:20
GeneralAntillesAh20:20
andre__GeneralAntilles, decision predates me, but we all know that voting has advantages and disadvantages...20:21
GeneralAntillesandre__, indeed.20:21
anidelyep but it's also more in the context.. "I tend to do that" is similar to your "I usually do tend to do that..."20:21
anidelbut we also use "I would tend towards" meaning NOW I would do that20:22
GeneralAntillesandre__, I expect in our case it's a much more effective bludgeon against management.20:22
andre__in our case there IS a management to convince, yeah20:22
andre__in gnome it's just stubborn developers, but not managers :-P20:23
andre__and believe me, they nowadays do take a look at the votes.20:23
anidelleaving.. later20:39
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andre__hm.... "With version prior PR1.1, the "installer" applications (facebook, ForecaWeather...) in the App Menu were hidden after installation"21:10
andre__can anybody confirm this? I don't think it's true21:10
andre__https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815821:10
povbot`Bug 8158: Facebook and ForecaWeather installer have reappeared21:10
VDVsxI have facebook, docs to go and amazon installers, they never disappeared21:19
andre__I think so too...21:24
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