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| pupnik | apt-cache search colorcode | 13:19 |
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| pupnik | colorcode - A free advanced MasterMind clone | 13:19 |
| pupnik | https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=colorcode | 13:19 |
| pupnik | ahh no page setup | 13:20 |
| andre__ | pupnik, http://maemo.org/packages/view/colorcode/ - no bugtracker defined | 13:28 |
| pupnik | sorry | 13:34 |
| pupnik | :) | 13:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, "On a related note, for some reasons I expect more Nokians to be around in maemo.org Bugzilla after the next feature release (PR1.2) has been published." | 14:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | Intentionally mysterious, or did you mean "for a variety of reasons"? | 14:05 |
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| anidel | hi Andre.. why bug #5894 can't be reopened? is the verifier only that need to say it's still not working for her? | 14:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Bless Eero for dealing with bug #6334. | 14:07 |
| andre__ | GeneralAntilles: no, making me look less stupid. Talked to some Nokians over the weekend and I didn't totally understood the reasons :-P | 14:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | I skimmed a random selection of about 20 comments in there and about stabbed my eyes out. | 14:08 |
| andre__ | anidel, there's no software fix committed known. hence yeah, I have (in general) fun with (sometimes lazy, sometimes not) people unable to reproduce. It's quite easy to say "can't reproduce, already fixed" :-/ | 14:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, hrm, awkward. Maybe, "On a related note, [i]apparently[/i] more Nokians may be around after the next . . . " | 14:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | (optional: s/may/will/) | 14:09 |
| * andre__ too lazy to change. | 14:10 | |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, well, just so you know. ;) | 14:10 |
| andre__ | hehe | 14:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, seriously, WHAT is with your blog trolls? | 14:11 |
| andre__ | I'd love to have captchas, but I guess that nobody at blogs.gnome.org plans to implement it. | 14:11 |
| andre__ | don't know, been like that since a few weeks. | 14:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, I'm pretty sure I haven't managed to read comments on any of your blog posts without finding trolls. | 14:11 |
| andre__ | maybe I said something wrong about RMS in the past :-P | 14:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Upstream trolls, registration trolls, asshole trolls. | 14:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Source trolls | 14:12 |
| * GeneralAntilles wonders how many bugs reaper triages. | 14:12 | |
| andre__ | GeneralAntilles, only option is to enable moderation as this spam is hard to catch. No links, just a vague bullshitty comment. but I don't like the idea of moderation. | 14:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | Plus, overhead. | 14:15 |
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| pupnik | i don't see how anyone could track down that 32wd_to bug. apparently there are no complaints now. | 14:20 |
| andre__ | a few | 14:21 |
| andre__ | it has definitely become better in 1.1 | 14:21 |
| andre__ | probably something like "This has happened in 5% of our testcases before, now it's 1 to 2%" | 14:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, that cod of conduct thread cracks me up. | 14:21 |
| * andre__ vaguely remembering some internal comments | 14:21 | |
| andre__ | GeneralAntilles, the mail thread on d-d-l? or the comments in my blog? | 14:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mail thread | 14:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haven't finished the blog post yet | 14:22 |
| andre__ | lots of noise. | 14:22 |
| andre__ | not really worth it. | 14:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, entertaining so far. ;) | 14:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, interesting post, thanks. | 14:35 |
| andre__ | heh | 14:35 |
| anidel | a friend of mine here just got the Nexus One.. let's see | 14:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | anidel, break it and backhand him. | 14:37 |
| * GeneralAntilles wonders when Freenode is going to assign ass #<project>* channels to a project. | 14:37 | |
| anidel | ehehe he'll kill me | 14:37 |
| anidel | anyway andre.. I still don't get that RESOLVED FIXED can't be reopened, sorry | 14:38 |
| anidel | you meant you wanted more people to say it still doesn't work for them? | 14:38 |
| andre__ | anidel, which bug? | 14:41 |
| andre__ | well, internally it cannot get reproduced after 2.2009.51-1. so it's WORKSFORME. | 14:42 |
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| anidel | bug #5894 | 14:57 |
| anidel | well it can't be reproduced because it looks quite random.. it happened to me twice already | 14:58 |
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| andre__ | anidel, internal ticket states: "This is fixed to PR1.2" | 15:11 |
| * andre__ rereading it | 15:11 | |
| andre__ | so it looks quite clear. | 15:11 |
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| anidel | andre__, ah okay :) that was not clear in the bug comments.. fine then | 15:22 |
| anidel | Comment #36 was stating it.. but not clear enough.. fine. thank you :) | 15:22 |
| andre__ | yeah, I was vague. sorry | 15:22 |
| anidel | well not vague, but you made it vague with comment #37 | 15:23 |
| anidel | so "Left RESOLVED FIXED as per Comment #36" may be | 15:23 |
| andre__ | yes, I made it vague :) | 15:24 |
| anidel | :p not complaining.. just pointing out eh :) | 15:24 |
| anidel | I don't want to help you make this third week as stressful as the first two | 15:24 |
| anidel | :D | 15:24 |
| andre__ | haha | 15:25 |
| andre__ | it will be. | 15:25 |
| andre__ | but i've told myself to reduce my hours this week to a sane value again, no matter what happens... | 15:25 |
| anidel | that's the right thing to do Andre | 15:28 |
| andre__ | I know, I just have to behave rational, which is hard sometimes :-P | 15:28 |
| anidel | what does "rational" mean? :) | 15:29 |
| anidel | :p | 15:29 |
| anidel | the internal bug reports is .. adaptable? there could be a tick on the internal bug saying "Public" that when ticked updates the public bugzilla with the very same comment... sure they won't do that :) sure enough the internal bugzill is untouchable :) | 15:31 |
| andre__ | it means "using my brain" :-P | 15:31 |
| anidel | we had a similar issue here , but we decided to have the Internal Bug Tracker open to the customers.. knowing it's open to them changes the way you comment.. (some comments may not be cool :) ) | 15:31 |
| anidel | but it's a different context ... | 15:32 |
| andre__ | I have Redhat and Novell in mind, yeah. But Nokia is different, as there's hardware. Plus a different situation with regard to competitors. | 15:34 |
| anidel | I've seen it and like the FIXED <internal> idea | 15:34 |
| anidel | ye | 15:34 |
| anidel | yep | 15:34 |
| anidel | but they also need to understand that many people submitting bugs are regular users.. | 15:35 |
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| anidel | and don't understand that even an easy comment is time the developer loses | 15:35 |
| anidel | and Nokia pays for that time | 15:35 |
| anidel | and it makes sense for them not to loose time = money | 15:35 |
| andre__ | yes. | 15:35 |
| * GeneralAntilles loves it when people put their alias in the alias field. | 15:36 | |
| anidel | but still.. they need to at least read a bug report and when working on that have it in mind and go back there | 15:36 |
| anidel | gan? it's the Alias field.. what else do you want to put in there? | 15:36 |
| anidel | or you're just saying you love when people do the right thing | 15:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | anidel, I draw ASCII art of andre__ ignoring reality. | 15:37 |
| anidel | when can we see the drawing | 15:37 |
| anidel | :) | 15:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | anidel, never! It was forwarded internally. ;) | 15:38 |
| anidel | ah! :D | 15:38 |
| anidel | thus it's not Art... | 15:38 |
| andre__ | meh. nothing in my inbox. | 15:40 |
| pupnik_ | it looks like a success to me. pr1.1 contains a lot of fixed bugs which reported on the tracker | 15:41 |
| anidel | but the repos are still down? | 16:28 |
| jebba | i dont think so | 16:29 |
| anidel | mmm | 16:30 |
| anidel | let me retry | 16:30 |
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| anidel | yep works, was a temp problem on my office's wife | 16:34 |
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| andre__ | hmm, number of open 2.2009.51-1 reports without moreinfo tag and without internal Alias: 141. | 17:16 |
| * andre__ picking the most important ones | 17:16 | |
| jebba | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2010-January/023768.html not sure if it should be in bugzilla or not | 17:39 |
| anidel | there's a bug for this right.. http://www.mobypicture.com/user/nokiAAddict/view/5889690 | 17:45 |
| anidel | mm can't find one.. I sure remember it was filed?? | 17:48 |
| andre__ | maybe the dataloss weekend? :) | 17:55 |
| anidel | no it was older than that.. may be it was a comment somewhere.. but then I am experiencing the same issue.. I think I'll file a bug | 17:55 |
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| andre__ | great, I could finally reproduce the ugly report in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6823 | 18:38 |
| povbot` | Bug 6823: media player won't play any video files now (.avi) divx / xvid | 18:38 |
| andre__ | oops. didn't mean the report is ugly, more the bug itself | 18:39 |
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| anidel | ah nasty indeed | 19:12 |
| andre__ | later.... | 19:18 |
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| anidel | later | 19:37 |
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| jebba | ouch, re: video bug. But why doesn't it always fail? I have the pr1.1 update and have paused and backgrounded videos and came back ok. Maybe it's not all video types. | 20:27 |
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| GeneralAntilles | andre__, I see the comments haven't gotten any more useful. ;) | 21:40 |
| andre__ | isn't that normal in this internet thingy? | 21:40 |
| pupnik | ignore the dumb comments | 22:37 |
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