IRC log of #maemo-bugs for Thursday, 2009-12-17

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fralsandre__: confirmed here, also your last comment seems to be true as well00:49
andre__frals, thanks a lot!! feel free to add a comment with you results00:51
fralsyeah just did :)00:51
andre__hehe00:51
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andre__frals, whouah, that's an awesome testcase I did not even think of. Good idea :)00:52
fralshmm, interesting, disconnected the phone and reconnected it again, and now it wont copy00:53
andre__uh00:55
andre__I wonder whether it's the same for ogg before and after installing "ogg-support"00:56
fralsright, the time it *did* copy it was using "Nokia Phone Browser"\N900\Data00:56
fralsPC Suite (or something here) seems to be acting a bit weird, last time I connected over bluetooth, it wouldnt let me browse the N900 straigth from "My Computer" even thought it shows up as a "Portable Device" - this time it does01:00
andre__hmm. can I ask you for a second comment about your experience when you think you've finished playing with it? :) tia01:01
fralsand when browsing it while its listed as a "Portable Device" it wont copy the file01:01
fralsyeah01:01
fralstrying to iron out exactly whats happening here01:01
fralsguess i spoke to soon on bugzilla, could remove that comment if you want01:01
andre__haha01:01
andre__no, we don't censor (except for leaking confidential stuff, or people spamming and/or insulting)  :)01:02
fralsroger roger01:02
fralsfunny thing is i pressed the "file manager" icon in pc suite both times and the first time i ended up viewing the phone through the "Nokia Phone Browser" and after reconnecting its being browsed as a portable device01:03
andre__HAHA01:03
fralsappearently, if you press the "file manager" icon in pc suite too early after the phone is reported as being connected, you end up using the "Nokia Phone Browser" instead of exploring it as a portable device01:13
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fralsposted a second comment now.. conclusion; im gonna make sure i follow the correct steps before commenting next time ;-) also, .jar file copies over just fine01:30
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andre__frals, thanks!01:50
fralsnp, sorry for screwing up with the first comment :P01:50
andre__haha, not at all :)01:51
andre__good night everybody01:58
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netvandalhi all14:14
jebbahey14:48
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VDVsxhey andre__ , how was the bug day ? :)16:34
andre__VDVsx, for me it was definitely fun. of course more and new people would have been cool, but it was a cool start16:35
* andre__ would also love to hear the opinion of others16:35
VDVsxsorry, I could not attend, my stupid ISP decide to gave a gift of 3 days without internet :(16:35
VDVsx*gave me16:35
andre__haha16:35
VDVsxnot fun :P16:36
andre__yeah, sometimes I'm also suddenly out of internet here. but often it's only for half an hour which I can accept. Small company...16:37
VDVsxandre__, yeah, same here, but this time they decide to rebuilt the phone station from scratch, the machines there were very old it seems16:39
andre__uh16:44
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jebbaandre__: can you clarify if this is a bug or not?  I went to "Administer vistas"  (Administer views? desktops?) where it gives you your four desktops to click on or off. I thought this would be great so when I gave my fone to my son, I could just enable "his" desktop to lessen the chance of him wreaking havoc with my data.  So I unchecked three of the desktops. Then I went back and re-checked the desktops again to re-enable them. But w17:14
andre__known issue.17:15
andre__let me write the rest for you here :-P17:15
andre__"...it did not restore all the widgets I had on those desktops before disabling them"? :-D17:15
jebbaya17:18
jebbaok thx17:18
jebbahttps://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5741                    Status:                                         UNCONFIRMED17:22
povbotBug 5741: "Manage Views": Disabling a view removes all its widgets17:22
andre__hehe17:24
jebbaah, you can confirm it by merely voting for it? cool.17:26
andre__3 votes confirm a report, yes17:27
jebbaany chance you could give me elevated perms so i can update things like versions and such?  (e.g. Version says 41-10 and i could update to 42-11). If not, i'll just bug you ;)17:27
andre__jebba, in general it is highy welcome, however 41-10 and 42-11 is just one week difference, so it's extremely likely that there haven't been much fixes in that time17:27
andre__but sure, let me give you permissions17:28
jebbamoe@blagblagblag.org17:28
andre__jebba, done. thanks in advance - and the usual disclaimer: Read http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Triage_guide , and if unsure, ask first.17:30
andre__jebba, As written, I think 41-10 -> 42-11 does not make much sense and the noise by bugmail is higher than the value. If you want to, I think that just changing the version field, without a comment, is better17:31
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bobbydhi!17:35
bobbydhow do I get involved in this triaging business then?17:35
andre__heja bobbyd17:37
andre__most stuff should be explained here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugsquad17:38
andre__have you read the triage guide?17:38
bobbydnope! :)17:38
bobbydI'm also a developer, so I could fix things if that's possible17:38
bobbydI'll read the guide and come back if I've got more questions17:39
andre__ah, cool17:40
bobbydis it possible for me to comtribute to the official maemo distribution, and if so, are there many people doing that?17:40
andre__good topic.17:41
andre__so, Maemo is approx. 80% open source. For the rest, see http://wiki.maemo.org/Why_the_closed_packages17:42
bobbydok, seems I'm building up a reading list :)17:42
andre__latest public tarballs are in http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/17:42
bobbydalso, what's the best way to find out about the latest news about maemo? Just check talk.maemo.org?17:43
andre__http://planet.maemo.org/ could also be interesting17:43
bobbydcool thanks17:43
jebbabobbyd: in general, very open project, so if you've been a free software developer for long, all the usual things are there.  There are some closed bits here and there which irritate all, but that's life.17:45
andre__bobbyd, and for code repositories, stuff is slowly moving to gitorious.org - see this thread too: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=3247717:50
bobbydcool, thanks guys17:50
andre__(keep in mind that Nokia is slowly moving... and that there's always discussions and different opinions in a company with a big size)17:51
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bobbydis there a channel just for developers, or is that #maemo?17:54
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andre__bobbyd, http://wiki.maemo.org/IRC17:59
bobbydthanks again18:00
andre__no problem18:01
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jebbaandre__:    libical: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libical.so.0.43.0                      libical has debug packages in it. I suppose it shouldn't no?18:40
andre__I don't get the question.18:41
andre__what is that output?18:41
andre__and why are there 20 spaces in between? :-D18:41
jebba $ dpkg -L libical | grep debug18:41
jebbaThe libical package has debug files in it, which are large and *probably* shouldn't be in there. (often are separate debug packages).  I see no mention in zilla18:42
jebbalibgnome-menu2 as a debug package in it as well  (adds 900k to device unncecessarily )18:43
jebbadosfstools has some too, but in debug/sbin18:45
jebbacleaning that all out will save 1M off default install18:46
andre__jebba, "dpkg -L libical | grep debug" provides no output here18:47
jebbaversion 1.43-99.3+0m5    ?   perhaps you have a newer one?18:48
andre__same with libgnome-menu218:48
andre__yeah, probably fixed in the meantime... wait18:48
andre__1.43-99.4+0m5, newer18:49
jebbaok, fixed upstream  /me drops18:52
andre__ah18:53
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