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| lac | hi david. | 18:49 |
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| dboddie_office | lac: You're back in Sweden already? | 18:50 |
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| lac | Guest96407? | 18:55 |
| lac | back in Sweden, yes | 18:55 |
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| zeth | Hi all | 18:56 |
| lac | hi zeth. | 18:58 |
| zeth | Hi lac, did you see the new tag field? | 18:59 |
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| zeth | I tried to implement what you wanted. Having to use Ctrl to select the tags is a bit dull, but that is the default Django way. nickbooker might know a better way of doing it. | 19:00 |
| pinner | G'Evening all | 19:01 |
| zeth | evening pinner | 19:01 |
| nickbooker | zeth: Are the tags in Django admin system or custom forms? | 19:02 |
| zeth | django admin | 19:02 |
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| pinner | hello alex | 19:02 |
| zeth | 'tag' is a ManyToMany field | 19:02 |
| zeth | 'supertag' is a ManyToMany field | 19:03 |
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| zeth | the orignal 'tag' is a CharField | 19:03 |
| moreati | hi | 19:03 |
| zeth | hi moreati | 19:03 |
| lac | I haven't played with the new tags. | 19:03 |
| lac | hi moreati | 19:03 |
| qwright | hi zeth, alex, laura | 19:03 |
| zeth | hi qwright | 19:03 |
| pinner | Have we enough people to start? | 19:05 |
| zeth | is there anyone we can ping? | 19:05 |
| pinner | we could do with tartley and jacob22 | 19:06 |
| nickbooker | zeth: In your ModelAdmin subclass | 19:06 |
| nickbooker | zeth: filter_horizontal = ('tag', 'supertag') | 19:06 |
| lac | jacob22 is here | 19:06 |
| pinner | OK, let's go... | 19:07 |
| pinner | #startmeeting | 19:07 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| lac | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| qwright | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| moreati | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| zeth | nickbooker: I am not sure it works with ManytoMany fields | 19:07 |
| pinner | TOPIC Apologies | 19:07 |
| pinner | I have none | 19:07 |
| lac | nor have I | 19:08 |
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| jacob22 | PRESENT | 19:08 |
| pinner | hello Harald | 19:08 |
| zeth | hi ghum, just in time | 19:08 |
| nickbooker | zeth: That's what it was for. A plain ForeignKey simply uses a combo box. | 19:08 |
| ghum | Hello! | 19:08 |
| ghum | PRESENT | 19:08 |
| pinner | TOPIC Review Actions from Last Meeting | 19:08 |
| pinner | The talks were announced as planned, but not the schedule yet | 19:09 |
| zeth | nickbooker: you know the filter on the right hand side of http://www.europython.eu/submission/admin/submission/talk/ I wanted the supertags here too. | 19:09 |
| pinner | Alex and I have updated the budget, it's now up to date as of early this afternoon | 19:09 |
| nickbooker | zeth: Remind me and I'll talk more after meeting has finished | 19:09 |
| zeth | nickbooker: cool | 19:10 |
| pinner | Anything else? | 19:10 |
| pinner | TOPIC Registration | 19:10 |
| pinner | I updated the registration status at wiki.europython.eu/Organisers earlier, | 19:11 |
| pinner | when 281 were registered, since then there have been 4 more, so count is now 285 | 19:11 |
| pinner | but I think 2 of them are false in so far as they were for tutorials only | 19:12 |
| pinner | 80 are booked for tutorials | 19:12 |
| moreati | Good numbers | 19:13 |
| pinner | so final number are likely to be 350 for conference and say 100 for tutorials | 19:13 |
| zeth | Any idea how many speakers are not booked? | 19:13 |
| pinner | zeth: I haven't had the chance to check, sorry | 19:13 |
| zeth | no problem | 19:13 |
| zeth | We would get more of an idea with that added on | 19:13 |
| zeth | but no problem | 19:13 |
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| pinner | OK, we'll try and work that out later | 19:14 |
| pinner | Hello Paul! | 19:14 |
| pinner | Any questions or observations on registration? | 19:14 |
| pboddie | pinner: Hello! | 19:14 |
| pboddie | PRESENT | 19:14 |
| zeth | As I said before, we need to build some bridges with certain low hanging fruit. Someone should send something to Python Ireland for a start | 19:14 |
| qwright | It's going well | 19:14 |
| zeth | I reckon we could do better in the Netherlands also | 19:15 |
| pinner | We're still taking bookings at the early bird rate as I delayed actioning normal rate for the podcast people to catch up | 19:15 |
| pinner | but I suggest we stop EB say on Thursday | 19:16 |
| pinner | (Linux Outlaws gave us some quite good coverage) | 19:16 |
| qwright | Could we ask people from relevant countries to advise us where to publicise and maybe help us out.... | 19:16 |
| moreati | agreed on Thursday | 19:17 |
| pinner | DECISION stop Early Bird this Thursday | 19:18 |
| ghum | +1 | 19:18 |
| pboddie | +1 | 19:18 |
| zeth | Sure +1 | 19:18 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:18 |
| pinner | I guess that should have been a vote. Sorry! | 19:19 |
| pinner | TOPIC Tutorials | 19:19 |
| lac | +1 | 19:20 |
| pinner | We're short of rooms at the Conservatoire on Sunday, two rooms only : 40 and 15 capacity | 19:20 |
| pinner | But now we have two more venues: | 19:20 |
| pinner | 1. Library Theatre, in same building with integral access: 2 rooms, 154 and 15 capacity, plus gallery space | 19:21 |
| lac | what is 'integral access'? | 19:21 |
| pinner | 2. CBSO (Symphony Orchestra) Centre, 4 rooms, 40, 12, 12 capacity, 10 minutes walk away | 19:22 |
| * ghum assumes "you can walk there without getting in the open" | 19:22 | |
| qwright | A bridge | 19:22 |
| * ghum "= integral access" | 19:22 | |
| pinner | lac: we can have the connecting doors opend and walk straight through, even though they are not the same organisation | 19:23 |
| zeth | What are the possible internet arrangements? Could be blast the wifi into the library theatre? | 19:23 |
| pinner | ghum: the CBSO centre is an outside walk | 19:23 |
| qwright | wifi will be laid on | 19:24 |
| pinner | zeth: internet is OK, we just run wireless/cable through | 19:24 |
| qwright | the Conseratoire will provide wi-fi, no work for us to do | 19:24 |
| pinner | zeth: and we will put an ADSL line into the CBSO, ready for the unConference in September | 19:24 |
| moreati | locations: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=52.477801,-1.905892&spn=0.006495,0.016716&t=h&z=16&msid=104670010414967360724.00046a464b53082370047 | 19:24 |
| pinner | lac: is that enough space for you now? | 19:25 |
| lac | for tutorials, sure, as long as wifi works every place. | 19:26 |
| zeth | So CBSO is good too, since it is near to the hotel | 19:26 |
| zeth | near to the good hotel | 19:26 |
| lac | Indeed its more than I need | 19:26 |
| pinner | so, let's go for 4 tutorial rooms on Sunday, and there will be some spare space at the CBSO centre for sprints | 19:26 |
| qwright | we will have to install wifi in the CBSO | 19:26 |
| moreati | cbso is far better in terms of room flexibility. Unless the 154 capacity room at Library Theatre could be subdivided | 19:27 |
| pinner | moreati: subdivision is not very practical, OTOH the Library Theatre is cheap: £260 for the day | 19:28 |
| pinner | VOTE 4 tutorial rooms for Sunday, at Conservatoire, Library Theatre and CBSO Centre | 19:29 |
| ghum | +1 | 19:29 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:29 |
| lac | I am not sure that I need them | 19:29 |
| lac | but more on Sunday is a good idea. | 19:29 |
| pboddie | +0 | 19:29 |
| jacob22 | +1 | 19:29 |
| lac | not sure I need 4 more though. | 19:29 |
| lac | +1 | 19:29 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:29 |
| moreati | I'm confused, that's 4 at Cons and LT, plus 4 more at cbso? | 19:30 |
| pinner | lac: it's 4 in total, not 4 more | 19:30 |
| pinner | +1 | 19:31 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:31 |
| pinner | TOPIC Talks | 19:31 |
| pinner | lac: would you like to summarise? | 19:31 |
| lac | more people keep coming with late ones. | 19:31 |
| lac | I don't know how many rooms I have | 19:32 |
| lac | and their sizes so I cannot schedule them yet. | 19:32 |
| lac | Also somebody else may have volunteered to schedule things, in which case I missed that. | 19:32 |
| pinner | lac: you have 5 rooms | 19:32 |
| lac | I am assuming that I am doing it | 19:32 |
| lac | when are start time, stop time, break times | 19:32 |
| pinner | lac: all the info was I think in a mail I sent you and tartley a few weeks ago | 19:33 |
| pinner | lac: maybe I should dig it out 'cos it had all that info in | 19:33 |
| lac | could we get the Library Theatre for the conference as well? because an extra room of size 150 would really help. | 19:33 |
| pinner | lac: including a blank schedule with all the time slots | 19:34 |
| lac | well I can go rummage through mails, but a few weeks ago I thought that somebody else wanted to schedule things while I was in Italy | 19:34 |
| lac | but since it didn't happen, I now think that I had better do it. | 19:34 |
| lac | And I would like to do it tomorrow or the next day because thursday is a holiday here, I am taking friday, and I am going to have 4 days in a kayak again | 19:35 |
| lac | which means the weekend is shot for scheduling. So I had better do this tomorrow and the next day. | 19:35 |
| pinner | lac: the Library Theatre is booked for the conference days, except Wednesday pm | 19:35 |
| pinner | maybe we should book it for next year | 19:35 |
| lac | If I have room for Jonathan Fine's talks and the others that arrived late, I will squeeze them in. otherwise they lose. | 19:35 |
| lac | but jonathan's tutorial should be fine now. | 19:36 |
| lac | how is that? | 19:36 |
| lac | for a plan? | 19:36 |
| * ghum likest this plan | 19:36 | |
| pinner | In summary, the rooms available have capacities of 550, 170, 140, 90, 40, with a couple more rooms of 40 available | 19:36 |
| * ghum agrees to that maybe for next year | 19:36 | |
| pinner | +1 | 19:36 |
| zeth | Well for next year, I still like the idea of plenaries in the town hall | 19:38 |
| pinner | lac: I can help with the scheduling, but I've avoided it when you were in Italy 'cos I though it yours and tartley's baby this year | 19:38 |
| pinner | SUMMARY lac and tartley to do scheduling in next couple of days, with help from pinner if needed | 19:39 |
| pinner | TOPIC Publicity | 19:40 |
| moreati | pinner: one sec | 19:40 |
| pinner | moreati: OK, time.sleep(30) | 19:41 |
| moreati | lac: we've used cut out cards, sticky tape and stuck them to a board in previous years, http://www.skrbl.com may be a usable online version of that | 19:41 |
| lac | hmm, jacob thinks that I won't have enough time tomorrow because he knows that I have more things to do. | 19:41 |
| lac | so I will get up early to do this, but it may have to wait until either a) tartley does it or b) me on monday | 19:42 |
| lac | I am a big fand of the cut out card solution myself, which I have used every year for EP | 19:42 |
| pinner | lac: I could do one with tartley, then you can tear it apart on Monday | 19:42 |
| moreati | lac: stick with what we know then :) | 19:43 |
| zeth | +1 for cut out cards | 19:43 |
| moreati | pinner: thank you, all done | 19:43 |
| zeth | one can always distribute digital images of cut out cards | 19:43 |
| pinner | lac: did you see the outline program http://europython.eu/talks/timetable ? | 19:43 |
| zeth | or put a webcam on them | 19:43 |
| pinner | last year we took pix and mailed them | 19:44 |
| moreati | lac: yes, but I'd forgotten I'd seen it | 19:44 |
| moreati | pinner: so we did | 19:44 |
| lac | yes I saw it but was not sure if the times on it were approximate or exact | 19:44 |
| zeth | So on publicity, I have written a draft email to all speakers, asking them to mention their talk on their own mailing lists/blogs/twitter accounts and so on. | 19:44 |
| * moreati is in far too much a techno-fetish mood tonight | 19:44 | |
| zeth | Shall I just send it, or does someone want to censure me? | 19:44 |
| pinner | TOPIC Publiciyt | 19:44 |
| pinner | I'm really concerned that not much has happened | 19:45 |
| pinner | Martin Hellwig has disappeared, and he hasn't registered yet | 19:45 |
| pinner | So if he doesn't materialise we need someone to drive it, let's see if he comes to Saturday's PyWm meeting | 19:46 |
| pboddie | I think that we should emphasise the three day, four track aspect of EP. | 19:47 |
| pinner | We're too late for magazines so all we have is mailing lists, word of mouth and podcasts | 19:47 |
| lac | That impressed the people at PyCON Italia | 19:47 |
| pinner | pboddie: possibly 5 tracks | 19:47 |
| pboddie | If you compare it to PyCon Italia, which I didn't go to, it's a mammoth! | 19:47 |
| lac | the large number of tracks. | 19:47 |
| lac | PyCON italia is very well run, with a large disciplined team sharing the work. | 19:48 |
| pinner | lac: so how was it at PyCon IT ? | 19:48 |
| pboddie | Of course, once the schedule is published the breadth and depth of the conference can be emphasised in full. | 19:48 |
| lac | So I have made it clear to them that I want them to bid for Ep 2011 | 19:48 |
| lac | and they seem pleased with the idea. | 19:48 |
| lac | aside from lack of internet bandwidth | 19:49 |
| pinner | We've had a few bookings from Italy since, so your publicity must have worked | 19:49 |
| lac | everything went perfectly smoothly, and it was a ton of fun. | 19:49 |
| lac | And the food was magnificient. | 19:49 |
| pinner | lac: we have interest from Ireland and Belgium as well | 19:49 |
| lac | great! | 19:49 |
| lac | for http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ | 19:50 |
| lac | can you add the sizes of the rooms? | 19:50 |
| pinner | lac: but I would like to have EP somewhere sunny ;-) | 19:50 |
| pinner | lac: look at the pickle, I think | 19:50 |
| pinner | lac: sorry, dictionary, not pickle | 19:50 |
| zeth | Okay so I have some publicity questions. | 19:51 |
| lac | I have a web page . where is the dict? | 19:51 |
| pinner | lac: but the prime qualifier for 2011 EP hosting must be putting in work for 2010 | 19:51 |
| pinner | lac: I mailed it you | 19:51 |
| lac | I insisted on that, the qualifying, too. | 19:51 |
| zeth | Who do we know in Python Ireland, who was that woman who came to PyconUK at least once? | 19:51 |
| pinner | lac: will send again, later | 19:51 |
| pboddie | Did anything happen on the publicity mailing list, by the way? If there's nothing being said there, I propose a quick coordination effort on the Wiki followed by mailings. | 19:51 |
| zeth | Who do we know in the netherlands. | 19:51 |
| zeth | Who do we know in Germany? | 19:51 |
| pinner | zeth: Vicky and Mick | 19:51 |
| lac | Told them if nobody volunteers next year I will host it in Gbg because that is easier for me. | 19:52 |
| zeth | pinner: Can I have their email address? | 19:52 |
| pinner | zeth: remind me later | 19:52 |
| lac | zeth: martijn faassen in the netherlands | 19:52 |
| zeth | If no one volunteers we can host it in my house, total delegates allowed 5. | 19:52 |
| zeth | Okay so I am going to volunteer to do a little on publicity. | 19:52 |
| lac | zeth: !! good, I am deligate 1 | 19:52 |
| zeth | I will send four or five emails | 19:53 |
| zeth | to the relevant people in key countries | 19:53 |
| zeth | asking if they have any publicity ideas for their countires | 19:53 |
| zeth | if they know any mailing lists etc | 19:53 |
| pinner | It sounds like Zeth may be doing publicity, is that right? | 19:53 |
| lac | just post to python-list@python.org | 19:53 |
| lac | all sorts of people might show up. | 19:53 |
| qwright | as per my previous suggestion if we can't think about who to mail we can look at our delegate list | 19:54 |
| qwright | just do it on Saturday | 19:54 |
| zeth | I am just going to do some essentials | 19:54 |
| pinner | IDEA Let;s have an hour actually doing publicity on Saturday at PyWm, instead of just talking about it | 19:54 |
| zeth | I sent an email just now to all speakers | 19:54 |
| zeth | pinner: good idea | 19:55 |
| moreati | pinner: sounds like a plan | 19:55 |
| qwright | why not all o'seas delegates | 19:55 |
| qwright | oh exclude the US, Japan etc | 19:55 |
| pinner | lac, moreati: can you make me a europython list admin, I wanted to add registered delegates to the list, or I can send the list to you | 19:56 |
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| lac | sure thing doing that now | 19:56 |
| pinner | OK, I think we have something going on publicity... | 19:56 |
| zeth | I sent to all speakers because I have their email addresses in Django | 19:57 |
| zeth | I do not have access to the booking system emails | 19:57 |
| zeth | Give me all the bookings and I have a go at them | 19:57 |
| lac | ok, john, now you are an ep listadmin | 19:57 |
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| lac | and I sent you a /msg with the passwd | 19:59 |
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| pinner | lac: thanks | 19:59 |
| pinner | zeth: I have sent you the delegate emails, with copy to moreati. | 19:59 |
| * ghum has to say goodbye, has to move out of this building | 20:00 | |
| ghum | LEAVE | 20:00 |
| lac | bye ghum | 20:00 |
| pinner | DECISION Majot push on Publicity at PyWm Saturday Meeting, zeth mailing people meanwhile | 20:00 |
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| qwright | ghum: goodbye! | 20:00 |
| tartley | ohdear | 20:00 |
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| tartley | I've just arrived in time for the goodbyes haven't I? | 20:00 |
| pinner | TOPIC Tech Team | 20:00 |
| lac | no ghum is a special case | 20:01 |
| pinner | Hello Jonathan, only too late for your bit | 20:01 |
| qwright | Have agreed extra provision for Brum Library | 20:01 |
| tartley | :-( sorry. | 20:01 |
| tartley | I'll check the logs and email to the list any outstanding contributions I might have had. Sorry everyone. | 20:01 |
| pinner | tartley: Laura is busy then kayaking, you and I are scheduling over next couple of days, ready for Laura to tear apart hen she returns on Monday | 20:02 |
| qwright | To Do: Commit to extra ADSL for Conservatoire, ADSL for CBSO | 20:02 |
| pinner | tartley: are you present? | 20:02 |
| lac | actually I think I will come back saying 'you wonerful people, this looks great!' | 20:03 |
| pinner | projectors - our normal source of free projectors has disappeared. | 20:03 |
| qwright | Nothing else as yet, but will need to plan for and get helpers for CBSO | 20:03 |
| qwright | Projectors: suggest buy more | 20:03 |
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| lac | they are rather cheap. I own one. | 20:03 |
| pinner | projectors: we need 5, we will hire one for the Adrian Boult hall, Linux Emporium have 1, PyCon UK have one | 20:04 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: Hi! | 20:04 |
| tartley | PRESENT | 20:04 |
| qwright | 5-3 = 2 | 20:04 |
| lac | check to see the cost of hiring. these days buying one is often cheaper. | 20:04 |
| fuzzyman | hello everyone | 20:04 |
| fuzzyman | sorry I'm so late | 20:04 |
| pinner | projectors: and I can get one form UKUUG, so we need another one plus one spare | 20:04 |
| lac | hello fuzzyman | 20:04 |
| qwright | => buy 2? | 20:04 |
| tartley | pinner: Acknowledged. Laura was just telling me same. Thanks. | 20:04 |
| pinner | lac: not worth hiring except for the big room, if we can't borrow, we'll buy | 20:05 |
| pinner | lac: hire costs here are £180 per day, buying is £940 for a reasonably powerful one | 20:05 |
| lac | I paid a lot less for mine. | 20:06 |
| qwright | get another Optoma... | 20:06 |
| lac | but work out what makes financial sense and do it | 20:06 |
| pinner | lac: you can get them a lot cheaper, but the one I'm talking about will light the Adrian Boult Hall | 20:07 |
| qwright | The Optoma cost 937 UKP | 20:07 |
| moreati | the key words are big and powerful, all the cheap ones I've seen are small and dim except in a small room | 20:07 |
| qwright | We used the Optoma in the Adrian Boult | 20:07 |
| pinner | Nothing seems to be happening with Streaming and Recording | 20:08 |
| qwright | .. when Jim moved the big one to the do | 20:08 |
| zeth | I am up for the normal audio recording using the little machines | 20:08 |
| pinner | So unless someone come forward, I suggest we forget Streaming and leave Recording to the experts (Zeth and Ciaran) | 20:09 |
| qwright | We don't have anyone who knows about streaming... ? | 20:09 |
| zeth | and any other volunteers we get | 20:09 |
| pinner | qwright: MrTopf I believe... | 20:09 |
| tartley | I volunteered to help out with unskilled dogsbody tasks for AV | 20:09 |
| moreati | agreed, podcasting ala PyCon US seems more worthwhile | 20:10 |
| zeth | tartley: welcome to the audio team | 20:10 |
| qwright | moreati: how do we do that? | 20:11 |
| pinner | we can't do anything without skilled volunteers, so all we can do is ask for them I guess | 20:11 |
| tartley | zeth: \o/ | 20:11 |
| tartley | I wonder if I could run a recruitment drive for helpers at the london Python meet, which I think is sometime this month? | 20:11 |
| pinner | IDEA put a request out on ep-improve | 20:11 |
| tartley | I may be wrong: I'll go check. | 20:11 |
| moreati | qwright: take the audio recorded with those dicta-whatsits and upload to blip.tv | 20:12 |
| pinner | tartley: good idea, although it's a bit late... | 20:12 |
| zeth | tartley: we are now the three musketeers (with jack cables instead of swords) | 20:12 |
| zeth | What happened to MrTopF | 20:12 |
| zeth | he did some streaming stuff in selected rooms | 20:12 |
| zeth | in previous one | 20:12 |
| pinner | OK, I mailed the ep-improve list for video volunteers. | 20:14 |
| pinner | Let's move on | 20:14 |
| pinner | TOPIC Sponsorship | 20:14 |
| pinner | I asked the PSF for $6000, and they've granted it | 20:14 |
| jacob22 | pinner: Great! | 20:15 |
| qwright | Have just invoiced PSF | 20:15 |
| pinner | qwright has invoiced them, and is raising invoices for Infrae and LogiLab | 20:15 |
| jacob22 | Pragma2000 is in for €200. | 20:15 |
| qwright | jacob22have you got an invoice address | 20:16 |
| pinner | Microsoft are not sure what their budget is, but should let us know soon | 20:16 |
| pinner | and Canonical have gone silent after promising an answer 10 days ago | 20:16 |
| qwright | I need to do follow-ups on some and approach Riverbank | 20:16 |
| pinner | Resolver have promised £500 | 20:16 |
| pinner | and two Resolver One licences | 20:17 |
| qwright | pinner: but not yet finally commited? | 20:17 |
| fuzzyman | Resolver are committed I think | 20:17 |
| jacob22 | qwright: Stefano will send in the sponsor form. You will get the invoice address there. | 20:17 |
| pinner | Disney have disbanded their software team and out-sourced, and my contact doesn't know who to approach | 20:18 |
| lac | ah, that is too bad. | 20:18 |
| pinner | Sun are in a similar position to Microsoft | 20:18 |
| qwright | jacob22: Thanks!! | 20:18 |
| pinner | Ableton want to sponsor a room for a day | 20:19 |
| qwright | fuzzyman: I will send an invoice!! | 20:19 |
| pinner | But all in all it's looking reasonable, but we need to keep on top of it | 20:19 |
| pinner | TOPIC Social Programme | 20:19 |
| qwright | pinner: get on top of it!! | 20:19 |
| pinner | I've made a provisional booking of the Australian Bar Basement for Monday and/or Tuesday | 20:20 |
| pinner | capacity is 600, charge is £50. | 20:20 |
| lac | sounds good | 20:20 |
| fuzzyman | PRESENT | 20:21 |
| pinner | They can do a buffet if we wish (too much complication for us to administer?) | 20:21 |
| fuzzyman | allegedly anyway | 20:21 |
| pinner | and I've asked them if they can get in Python beer | 20:21 |
| pboddie | They sell Python beer in our local supermarket. You don't want to know how much it costs! | 20:21 |
| pinner | Apart from that, the intention is to get the locals organising a social programme on Saturday | 20:21 |
| qwright | pinner: What's wrong with Fosters? (smile) | 20:21 |
| pinner | any more ideas for social things | 20:23 |
| pinner | I'll take that as no then. | 20:24 |
| pinner | TOPIC Any Other Business | 20:24 |
| pinner | I have none | 20:24 |
| moreati | one thing, http://holdenweb.blogspot.com/2008/04/whos-up-for-sprint-then.html | 20:24 |
| zeth | I chat about social on sat, I am on the way out now to the final frontier | 20:24 |
| zeth | (Star Trek at IMAX) | 20:25 |
| moreati | Steve Holden wanted to hold a Make it Fast sprint, he reckoned october to get accom/venue etc sorted. Since we have all that, worth pitching? | 20:25 |
| zeth | certainly | 20:25 |
| pinner | moreati: Steve is coming to EP, I'll ask him | 20:25 |
| tartley | um, did we cover who's championing Fabien Pnckaers, and the latest few talk submissions? | 20:26 |
| lac | make what fast -- cpython? | 20:26 |
| moreati | lac yes | 20:26 |
| qwright | tartley: You wanted me to champion something? | 20:26 |
| pinner | tartley: can we talk after the meeting? | 20:26 |
| tartley | pinner: yes we can | 20:26 |
| tartley | qwright: Hey. You got assigned something in your absense. Did you see my email about it? | 20:27 |
| lac | that is a fine idea for a sprint. and there is a guy who gave a talk at pycon italia who has a bunch of great results. | 20:27 |
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| tartley | We're happy to take it off you, but thought we'd run it by you first, in case you know the guy or something | 20:27 |
| qwright | tartley: Yes, yesterday - I've been working out of the office | 20:27 |
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| qwright | tartley: weak excuse I know - yes I'll do it... | 20:28 |
| tartley | qwright: Alright, that's great, thanks. | 20:28 |
| pinner | DECISION Ask Steve Holden to Hold a Speed Sprint at EP | 20:28 |
| pinner | any more AOB? | 20:28 |
| moreati | e | 20:28 |
| tartley | talks subcommitte: Do we have a final final date when | 20:28 |
| tartley | ... | 20:28 |
| moreati | nope | 20:28 |
| lac | no more business for me | 20:29 |
| tartley | talk edits need to be done by? At least one of my speakers is pleading 'on vacation' and won't be touching it for at least a week yet. | 20:29 |
| jacob22 | Has anyone done any budget estimates of late? | 20:29 |
| zeth | Bye everyone, I boldly go | 20:29 |
| tartley | bye zeth | 20:29 |
| moreati | jacob22: yes, in the admin wiki | 20:29 |
| pinner | tartley: we have until say 24th June to refine the abstracts, but the sooner the better | 20:30 |
| jacob22 | moreati: Ok, I'll have a look. | 20:30 |
| pinner | zeth: go boldly ;-) | 20:30 |
| tartley | alright. I've been telling mine next week, which should help. :-) | 20:30 |
| pinner | TOPIC Next Meeting | 20:30 |
| pinner | 2 weeks time OK again? | 20:30 |
| qwright | suggest 2nd June 1700 | 20:31 |
| moreati | yep | 20:31 |
| tartley | can do | 20:31 |
| lac | I am ok with that | 20:31 |
| qwright | 17:00 BST | 20:31 |
| pinner | qwright: hours or years ? | 20:32 |
| pinner | DECISION next meeting June 2nd, 17:00 BST, 18:00 CEST | 20:32 |
| pinner | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
| moreati | Bye all. John see you Saturday | 20:32 |
| tartley | bye alls | 20:32 |
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| pinner | tarley: if you give me your phone no, I'd rather speak than type badly | 20:33 |
| tartley | sure thing | 20:33 |
| pinner | good night Alex | 20:33 |
| fuzzyman | night all | 20:33 |
| qwright | byeeeeeeeeeeee | 20:33 |
| tartley | it's zero 7737 062 two two five | 20:33 |
| nickbooker | zeth: The list filter you wanted is list_filter = ('supertags',) | 20:33 |
| nickbooker | zeth: (yet again, in your ModelAdmin class) | 20:33 |
| lac | pinner: will you talk to holger about his on again off again tutorial? | 20:38 |
| lac | my temtatoin is to say yes you can have it but only on Sunday | 20:38 |
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| pinner | lac: sorry, I've been out of the room talking to tartley | 20:49 |
| pinner | lac: Yes, I'll ask Holger: Sunady seems a good idea | 20:49 |
| pinner | unless we have a tutorial proposal which would fill a big room on Sunday | 20:50 |
| lac | give hoger half a day on monday? | 20:53 |
| lac | give jonathan fine and the new one sunday? | 20:53 |
| pinner | New one? | 20:54 |
| lac | sorry thought mongodb was a tutorial | 20:54 |
| lac | its just a talk | 20:55 |
| tartley | pinner: Just as a sanity check, I'm not even going to remotely look at any tutorials, correct? | 20:55 |
| pinner | tartley: Correct, if that's what you want. I'll re-schedule the tutorials, with 4 rooms on Sunday | 20:56 |
| lac | ok, plan. give holger 3 hours on Monday. If he wants to do 2 tutorials, 6 hours, he has to do | 20:57 |
| lac | the other one on sunday. | 20:57 |
| lac | give jonahan fine a slot on sunday. | 20:57 |
| lac | Ok plan? | 20:57 |
| pinner | lac: so JF on Sunday (won't clash with Pyjamas on Monday) | 20:57 |
| lac | yes | 20:57 |
| pinner | Holger Monday in empty slot | 20:57 |
| lac | yes | 20:58 |
| lac | and holger sunday if he wants that too. | 20:58 |
| lac | he has 2 tutorials, 6 hours | 20:58 |
| pinner | OK | 20:58 |
| lac | shall I tell holger and jonathan? | 20:58 |
| pinner | But I don't think we have the Code Clinic yet | 20:58 |
| lac | oh yes, we don't | 20:59 |
| pinner | should we do that during the conference, or with tutorials | 20:59 |
| pinner | Monday tutorial may be better | 20:59 |
| pinner | lac: let me do a schedule before we tell them | 21:00 |
| lac | this is a hard one. some people will not be there altogether. | 21:00 |
| lac | so they want cclinic with talks. others don't want to miss talks. | 21:00 |
| lac | I am not sure what is better. But Sunday we have the room .... | 21:00 |
| pinner | then I'll miss it (again) | 21:01 |
| tartley | Could there be two code clinic sessions? | 21:01 |
| lac | yes there could be. | 21:02 |
| pinner | tartley: that would be up to the scheduler ;-) | 21:02 |
| lac | actually I saw a different use of the days before at pycon italia that really worked. | 21:02 |
| pinner | yeah? | 21:02 |
| lac | some people volunteered to listen to anybody who wanted to give their talk ahead of time. | 21:02 |
| tartley | I wonder if a code clinic during the talks might be very popular. Fill a big room. Change the vibe somehow - make it difficult to conduct the same sort of exercise and discussion | 21:02 |
| lac | make suggestions on how to improve it. | 21:02 |
| lac | it helped thetalk quality a whole lot | 21:03 |
| lac | but it may be a bit late in the day to consider doing this. | 21:03 |
| aa_ | hi everyone :) | 21:03 |
| tartley | I'm off: I'll go eat and when I get home, take a crack at the exercise john and I chatted about. I'll be on email. Bye all! | 21:03 |
| * pinner waves to tartley | 21:04 | |
| * pinner must go soon as well | 21:04 | |
| pinner | aa_: hello! We've just finished meeting | 21:05 |
| aa_ | oh, I didn't realise there was one, I just noticed rare flashing in this window | 21:05 |
| pinner | (a planning meeting for EuroPython) | 21:05 |
| aa_ | cool, well, I won't disturb | 21:05 |
| pinner | aa_: we meet every 2 weeks, on Tuesday at 1700 BST, 1800 CEST | 21:06 |
| pinner | aa_: you're welcome to join in the conference planning: are you coming? | 21:06 |
| aa_ | pinner: yes, I am doing a tutorial too | 21:06 |
| pinner | Ahh, I know you, Hello Ali! | 21:06 |
| aa_ | pinner: hi :) well, I am not great at organising things, but I'll just stick around | 21:07 |
| pinner | aa_: right now we have you scheduled for Monday am. is that OK? | 21:07 |
| aa_ | pinner: it's all quite exciting, isn't it, on our doorstep :) | 21:07 |
| aa_ | yes, its perfect | 21:07 |
| aa_ | I'll come up on sunday aftern oon | 21:08 |
| pinner | OK! | 21:08 |
| pinner | Exciting, yes, but a bit time-consuming for us here! | 21:08 |
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| pinner | Registrations now stand at 285 | 21:08 |
| aa_ | how many are you planning for? | 21:09 |
| pinner | we'll try and arrange a low key social Sunday evening | 21:09 |
| aa_ | that will be fun | 21:09 |
| pinner | My estimate is 350, but in theory we can handle 550 | 21:09 |
| pinner | I don't know how we'd feed 550 though | 21:10 |
| pinner | anyway, nice to talk to you, but I need to leave now | 21:10 |
| aa_ | take care | 21:11 |
| pinner | sorry to be rude | 21:11 |
| aa_ | hah, nto at all :) | 21:11 |
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| LarstiQ | doh, meeting | 23:43 |
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