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| zeth | Hi | 17:36 |
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| dboddie_office | Hello. | 17:39 |
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| Tartley | Hello! | 17:58 |
| Tartley | I'm here to rustle up recruits to approve the last few talks and assign champions. | 17:59 |
| Tartley | Zeth did you say you could maybe ride shotgun with me on it? | 18:00 |
| Tartley | How you doing lac? I thought you were kayaking already! I didn't know you'd be around. :-) | 18:00 |
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| aa_ | Tartley: I might be able to chamion some stuff for you | 18:12 |
| aa_ | um champion | 18:12 |
| Tartley | Hi. | 18:12 |
| aa_ | Tartley: hi | 18:12 |
| aa_ | Tartley: I am ali afshar, you are championing my tutorial | 18:13 |
| aa_ | but I might be able to offer a hand with other stuff | 18:13 |
| Tartley | I'm not even too worried about the championing (although, obviously, it's much appreciated) - | 18:13 |
| Tartley | I just want to have one other person with me in the review, so I don't make any silly mistakes | 18:13 |
| aa_ | ah, ok that's fine | 18:13 |
| aa_ | you want it now? | 18:13 |
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| Tartley | (eg. dismissing someone as an illiterate idiot when really they are a famous excellent speaker who speaks English as a second language much better than they write it :-) | 18:14 |
| pinner | hi | 18:14 |
| Tartley | hi John | 18:14 |
| aa_ | well, I'll be back in 30 minutes, so if you need a second eye glancing over something let me know please | 18:15 |
| Tartley | alright, brill, thanks. | 18:15 |
| pinner | what gives? | 18:16 |
| Tartley | well, I'm looking at | 18:16 |
| Tartley | http://www.europython.eu/submission/admin/submission/talk/?status__exact=new | 18:16 |
| Tartley | lac and me have been using the meeting markup for these reviews, just for the record | 18:16 |
| Tartley | #startmeeting | 18:16 |
| Tartley | is that how you spell it? | 18:16 |
| pinner | well we need Proofread as well | 18:17 |
| pinner | yes | 18:17 |
| Tartley | alright | 18:17 |
| Tartley | I don't know how to get (new or proofread) so should be do them after? | 18:17 |
| pinner | yes | 18:17 |
| Tartley | ok | 18:17 |
| Tartley | TOPIC MongoDB in the "Real World" | 18:18 |
| Tartley | PRESENT | 18:18 |
| zeth | Hi | 18:18 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 18:18 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 18:18 |
| Tartley | hi zeth | 18:19 |
| zeth | hi Tartley pinner | 18:19 |
| zeth | MongoDB talk sounds a little similar to mine | 18:19 |
| zeth | using non-relational database | 18:19 |
| pinner | MongoDB looks good to me: great to be talking about non-relational dbs for a change! | 18:19 |
| Tartley | Yes, but I don't think two talks on non-relational talks is too many. They seem like a hot topic. | 18:20 |
| zeth | Sure sure | 18:20 |
| Tartley | (non relational dbs, I mean) | 18:20 |
| zeth | I think it can go through as is | 18:20 |
| pinner | agreed | 18:20 |
| Tartley | his abstract seems detailed and specific, I like it as it is. | 18:20 |
| Tartley | excellent | 18:20 |
| zeth | good | 18:20 |
| zeth | shall we go onto the next | 18:20 |
| Tartley | yes | 18:21 |
| pinner | first, | 18:21 |
| Tartley | assigning a champion? | 18:21 |
| pinner | DECISION Accept MondoDB | 18:21 |
| Tartley | Zeth are you up for taking one? | 18:21 |
| Tartley | Maybe we could share these few? | 18:21 |
| zeth | ok cool | 18:21 |
| Tartley | thanks | 18:21 |
| zeth | I can take this one | 18:21 |
| zeth | as I am interesting anyway | 18:21 |
| zeth | as I am interested anyway | 18:21 |
| Tartley | figured as much. | 18:22 |
| pinner | so Flick? | 18:22 |
| Tartley | Oh, and I notice in the comments they said they could easily do a longer talk, but asked for 30 mins since it would get accepted easier | 18:23 |
| Tartley | Do we want to actively encourage them to do 45 since it's an interesting topic? | 18:23 |
| zeth | well I will talk to him | 18:23 |
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| Tartley | I have been working on the assumption 'no', but... | 18:23 |
| Tartley | thought it worth discussing | 18:23 |
| Tartley | alright, you sound it out zeth | 18:24 |
| zeth | I will point out how little time you get in a 30 mins (last year I had way way too much material), considering you only really get to present for about 15 | 18:24 |
| zeth | yeah | 18:24 |
| zeth | I sound it out | 18:24 |
| Tartley | I'm done then, next! Zeth you announce it when you're done making any notes you want | 18:24 |
| zeth | next talk? | 18:24 |
| pinner | I think change to 45 mins anyway, 30 not enough | 18:24 |
| zeth | well it depends | 18:24 |
| zeth | he might just introduce it and point to some links | 18:25 |
| zeth | if you are changing it, refresh first | 18:25 |
| zeth | as I have changed somethings | 18:25 |
| Tartley | Zeth do you want to do the updates on the django admin page? I have been pasting the entire IRC log into the review comments | 18:25 |
| zeth | there is no collision protection in the django admin | 18:25 |
| Tartley | then maybe deleting swathes of irrelevance | 18:25 |
| pinner | zeth: so Django doesn't user proper record locking? | 18:25 |
| Tartley | right, so I'm not touching this one | 18:25 |
| Tartley | I mean for previous talks I have been pasting in: This talk I have not touched | 18:26 |
| zeth | ok | 18:26 |
| Tartley | TOPIC Flick for formulas | 18:26 |
| zeth | How he made a website | 18:26 |
| zeth | seems simple enough | 18:27 |
| zeth | not much detail | 18:27 |
| pinner | socially networking mathematicians? the mind boggles | 18:27 |
| zeth | but more of a show and tell | 18:27 |
| pinner | well, I guess he hasn't written it yet | 18:27 |
| zeth | I think 30 mins is okay | 18:27 |
| Tartley | Yep. Is there a way to make it clear whether this talk is of interest to more than just formula geeks? | 18:27 |
| Tartley | Is it for anyone who is interestedin pinax? I guess it is. | 18:27 |
| zeth | well I think it is how he put the pinax his own mathtran modules together | 18:28 |
| Tartley | fair enough | 18:28 |
| pinner | well it should be a good social study if nothing else | 18:28 |
| Tartley | alright, I'll take this one. Anything specific we want to ask for in terms of more detail? | 18:28 |
| pinner | Jonathan's talks usually show his enthusiasm | 18:28 |
| Tartley | unless someone knows jonathan or wants to take it? | 18:28 |
| zeth | social or psychological study? I make no comments... | 18:28 |
| zeth | I know jonathan, I still make no comments ... ;) | 18:29 |
| Tartley | ok | 18:29 |
| Tartley | :-) | 18:29 |
| zeth | you can have it | 18:29 |
| zeth | advanced maths is not my cup of tea | 18:29 |
| pinner | I suggest you ask him for more of a sales pitch | 18:29 |
| Tartley | ok. I shall email him and discuss whether any more detail is useful. - right, sales pitch | 18:29 |
| Tartley | DECISION Accept, assign to tartley, discuss with Jonathan if more detail / sales pitch required | 18:30 |
| pinner | we need to discuss Javascript for python users as well | 18:30 |
| zeth | that is more interesting topic ;) | 18:31 |
| pinner | 'cos I accepted it just to get it into the tutorial schedule | 18:31 |
| Tartley | Jonathan Fine has already talked with someone about his tutorial? | 18:31 |
| Tartley | Or does that need picking up to tell him it is accepted etc? | 18:31 |
| zeth | Well there this really not enough for a half day | 18:31 |
| pinner | only in that he asked to submit it late | 18:31 |
| zeth | Well there is really not enough for a half day | 18:31 |
| zeth | For a half-day time commitment, the attendees need more of an outline than this | 18:32 |
| Tartley | Right | 18:32 |
| Tartley | I have a standard list I have sent to other people. | 18:32 |
| pinner | zeth: not enough info to draw that conclusion | 18:32 |
| Tartley | Is is a hands on class, what should laptops have installed, what OS, etc etc | 18:32 |
| pinner | or any other conclusion: much more info needed | 18:33 |
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| Tartley | it sounds like on top of my 'standard questions', he needs to provide more information onthe content | 18:33 |
| pinner | zeth: he did soemthing on this in Vilnius, you went I think? | 18:33 |
| pinner | and it generated a lot more interest than I expected | 18:34 |
| pinner | as well, it fits well with the Pyjamas stuff | 18:34 |
| zeth | I did go to the one in Vilnius | 18:35 |
| zeth | it was a very good subject | 18:35 |
| Tartley | Alright, well if thats true he should be able to provide an outline | 18:35 |
| pinner | a much better outline... | 18:35 |
| zeth | for those of us who do a lot of web stuff, getting javascript to work with python is a big issue | 18:35 |
| Tartley | shall we accept and get him to send a breakdown of topics, plus the 'standard questions' | 18:35 |
| zeth | I would also ask how it fits in with web frameworks, e.g. django | 18:35 |
| pinner | agreed | 18:35 |
| Tartley | sounds good | 18:36 |
| Tartley | attendees required knowledge | 18:36 |
| Tartley | ok | 18:36 |
| zeth | I can't see a common reason to use javascript with python for non web stuff | 18:36 |
| zeth | it is possible but rather unlikely | 18:36 |
| Tartley | TOPIC Javascript for Python users | 18:36 |
| Tartley | DECISION Accept, assign to tartley, much more detail required, see discussion | 18:36 |
| Tartley | TOPIC FilterPipe framework | 18:37 |
| zeth | cool | 18:37 |
| pinner | this one has a much better abstract | 18:37 |
| zeth | I am can help javascript talk if required | 18:37 |
| zeth | but I leave it to you to be the champion ;) | 18:38 |
| Tartley | This is the Rob Collins who I emailed an acceptance for Robert Collins talk. fortunately he was ready for it, they having met each other before. | 18:38 |
| Tartley | thanks zeth, I just figured while I'm doing one of mr fine's I might as well do both | 18:38 |
| pinner | he is Mr PyCon UK Massage, responsible for us being top of the donations league once | 18:39 |
| zeth | lol | 18:39 |
| zeth | I remember | 18:39 |
| zeth | well sort of | 18:39 |
| zeth | I was really out of my head drunk at that point | 18:39 |
| zeth | moving on swiftly | 18:39 |
| zeth | it sounds a bit like Kamaelia | 18:39 |
| zeth | which I never realy got either | 18:39 |
| Tartley | heh. Well it does sound fascinating. | 18:40 |
| Tartley | Which I guess means his abstract is working, for me at least | 18:40 |
| pinner | fyi, Michael Sparks may be making another late submssion on Kamaelia | 18:41 |
| Tartley | Anything else we need to ask him to add? | 18:41 |
| Tartley | understood, thanks | 18:41 |
| pinner | seems complet to me | 18:41 |
| Tartley | cool | 18:41 |
| pinner | accept as is? | 18:41 |
| Tartley | Zeth, wanna alternate? | 18:41 |
| Tartley | yep, accept as is | 18:41 |
| zeth | I don't understand this | 18:42 |
| zeth | so better you take this | 18:42 |
| Tartley | ok then | 18:42 |
| zeth | I can swap for JS if you want | 18:42 |
| Tartley | No promises I | 18:42 |
| Tartley | I'll understand either but I'm interested to try | 18:42 |
| Tartley | :-) | 18:42 |
| Tartley | Well. Um. I feel like we should keep both of Jonathan Fine's with one champion. Do you want to take both of those? | 18:43 |
| Tartley | I could take the mongodb one if that helps | 18:43 |
| aa_ | are these things you are discussing listed anywhere? | 18:43 |
| Tartley | Hi aa_ | 18:43 |
| aa_ | rehi Tartley | 18:43 |
| zeth | Before you take any from me, http://www.europython.eu/submission/admin/submission/talk/?status__exact=new | 18:44 |
| zeth | what happened with the Fabien Pinckaers | 18:44 |
| pinner | nothing, I think | 18:44 |
| Tartley | Q said he would pick it up | 18:44 |
| zeth | So maybe I take mongo and jonathan and you take over Q's | 18:44 |
| Tartley | when I asked him in the babble after the last IRC meet | 18:44 |
| zeth | Maybe Q has enough to do with sponsorship ? | 18:45 |
| pinner | I think Q thought OpenERP may not be Python, but there's a package on PyPI | 18:45 |
| pinner | in Turbogears, but it may just be a TG client to something else non-Python | 18:46 |
| pinner | Q has enough to do with sponsorship and wifi etc | 18:46 |
| aa_ | I have used openerp, it's quite a nice huge enterprisey thing | 18:46 |
| Tartley | ok then, if Q isn't happy I can gladly take them off his hands. | 18:46 |
| pinner | aa_ is it Python? | 18:46 |
| aa_ | pinner: yes | 18:46 |
| Tartley | I only wanted to consult with him before doing that. All good. | 18:46 |
| aa_ | pinner: iirc it is a networked pygtk app | 18:46 |
| pinner | 'nuff said | 18:47 |
| aa_ | with proper two-way rpc stuff going on | 18:47 |
| Tartley | Alright, shall we go with zeth's proposed swaparound plan then? | 18:47 |
| pinner | I think the submission is clear enough to accepts IMO | 18:47 |
| aa_ | maybe Twisted too, but now I might be talking rubbish | 18:47 |
| pinner | English needs a little tidying | 18:48 |
| Tartley | um | 18:48 |
| Tartley | are you guys discussing openerp? That has already been reviewed. Or am i lost? | 18:49 |
| pinner | the review was inconclusive? | 18:50 |
| Tartley | I think we can go with zeth's proposed swap: He takes mongo and JFine, I'll take Q's | 18:50 |
| Tartley | and I'll take filterpype | 18:50 |
| Tartley | and that, I think means we're done? | 18:50 |
| Tartley | ah! was it john: Ok I don't mean to steamroll | 18:51 |
| pinner | there are two more talks, Luke Leighton's Pyjamas | 18:51 |
| pinner | which are marked proofread, they are down to me | 18:52 |
| pinner | but I haven't finished talking to Luke | 18:52 |
| pinner | I think we can assume that only one will be accepted, for scheduling purposes | 18:52 |
| Tartley | Alright then | 18:53 |
| zeth | Okay, hi | 18:53 |
| pinner | also, I'm in the process of talking with Holger krekel about his two tutorials | 18:53 |
| zeth | sorry I got called away | 18:53 |
| zeth | I think just take Q's talks so they get published | 18:54 |
| pinner | which are now down to one and he is sending a revised abstract | 18:54 |
| pinner | but none of that affects the talks scheduling | 18:54 |
| Tartley | OK, thanks pinner, so is it worth updating Luke's talks in the db today, or should we hold off until you know more? | 18:55 |
| pinner | I'll speak to him first: just leave a slot in the right sort of place, eg before or after JF's javascript | 18:56 |
| Tartley | understood | 18:56 |
| Tartley | and regarding Q's talks. Am I right to assume Mr Pinckaers has recieved no feedback from us at all to date? This will be first contact? | 18:57 |
| pinner | I think probably so | 18:57 |
| Tartley | I see what you mean about the previous review being inconclusive | 18:57 |
| Tartley | http://www.europython.eu/submission/admin/submission/talk/19/ | 18:57 |
| Tartley | It's all pretty much contentless until the final few lines, where we say we need to discuss it with Q | 18:58 |
| Tartley | for reasons unknown | 18:58 |
| Tartley | My instinct is therefore to ask Q if he knows anything we should know. | 18:58 |
| pinner | I think aa_ has put us right there, so just go ahead and leave Q to raise the sponsors' invoices! | 18:59 |
| Tartley | Alright. I'll do that, but assuming nothing game-changing is forthcoming, maybe we do now want to consider the acceptance of the Pinckaers talks | 18:59 |
| Tartley | in this room | 18:59 |
| Tartley | today | 19:00 |
| pinner | accept them both | 19:00 |
| Tartley | well alright then. | 19:01 |
| pinner | decision? | 19:01 |
| zeth | Isn't it normal for Harald to be part of the morning announcements? | 19:01 |
| Tartley | we're still on an old T0P1C | 19:02 |
| zeth | well I think someone should talk to Fabien | 19:03 |
| pinner | zeth: Harald, normal, in one sentence? | 19:03 |
| zeth | lol | 19:03 |
| Tartley | DECISION Accept Filterpipes, assign to tartley, swap previous assignments as detailed in the discussion. | 19:03 |
| zeth | Fabien wants 2 whole hours | 19:03 |
| zeth | so I think we want to be sure they are actual talks | 19:03 |
| zeth | I can't remember who Fabien is | 19:03 |
| zeth | if they are both practial python talks fine | 19:04 |
| Tartley | TOPIC Mr Fabien Pinckaers OpenERP talks | 19:04 |
| zeth | but if one of them is a sales pitch, I am not so interested in accepting | 19:04 |
| zeth | It is a programming conference, not really a product conference | 19:04 |
| Tartley | It sounds like one is a tech talk the other is more product description? | 19:05 |
| pinner | zeth: no, it's a Python conference | 19:05 |
| pinner | which includes Python in Action | 19:05 |
| pinner | which is much more important than the clever techie stuff | 19:05 |
| Tartley | fair point. | 19:05 |
| pinner | if we're evr going to get anywhere | 19:05 |
| zeth | are we not 'there' already? | 19:06 |
| zeth | Well I am not sure how interesting is a 1 hour pitch | 19:06 |
| zeth | if that is what it is | 19:06 |
| pinner | zeth: no, look at VB, Visual C++, etc, etc | 19:06 |
| pinner | zeth: you may be right, it may be too much, | 19:07 |
| zeth | Well I like that we don't have all the horrible corporate stuff that is in Java and C# and so on | 19:07 |
| pinner | he needs to be asked, suggest 2 x45 minutes o1 2x60 plus 1x30 for the management overview | 19:07 |
| zeth | Yeah, say 45 or hour mins for the python framework, investigate the finished product | 19:08 |
| pinner | zeth: that's why i chose Python over Java | 19:08 |
| zeth | he can have a stall if he wants to sell a product | 19:08 |
| zeth | I don't know him, so I could be being completely undair, but talk 20 sounds a bit sales pitchy | 19:08 |
| zeth | unfair | 19:09 |
| Tartley | right, that makes sense. is it constructive to suggest a stall, or is it innappropriate? | 19:09 |
| pinner | it may be approprIAte, but we may be running out of stall space! | 19:09 |
| zeth | Maybe he can combine the talks into one | 19:09 |
| zeth | 45 mins on the framework, 15 mins on the finished off-the-shelf version | 19:10 |
| zeth | it might be that he needs to do the sale pitch in order to get work to pay his travel expenses | 19:10 |
| zeth | I don't know him | 19:10 |
| zeth | we need to talk to him | 19:10 |
| Tartley | me neither. | 19:10 |
| Tartley | ok | 19:10 |
| pinner | zeth: (from Queen) you are the champion... | 19:10 |
| zeth | someone should talk to him | 19:10 |
| zeth | pinner: lol | 19:10 |
| Tartley | I think the conclusion from earlier was that I should take this | 19:11 |
| Tartley | but I'm happy to let zeth do it if you think he has the appropriate deft touch | 19:11 |
| pinner | whoever is happy to deal with him... | 19:12 |
| pinner | just don't fight about it ;-) | 19:12 |
| Tartley | alright then, I'll take it | 19:12 |
| Tartley | I'll go through and make sure all the 'champion' fields are updated to match the swaps we agreed earlier | 19:13 |
| pinner | On another tack - there are still 40 talks without the time allocated | 19:13 |
| pinner | so you could do those at the same time | 19:13 |
| Tartley | sure | 19:14 |
| Tartley | DECISION Accept, assign to tartley, sound out the possiblity of reducing the time devoted to product pitching | 19:15 |
| Tartley | alright, in that case I think we really are done | 19:16 |
| pinner | except for Cory Doctorow? | 19:17 |
| Tartley | do we need to reiterate the final talk assignments resulting from this - I know, why don't I email it to the list | 19:17 |
| Tartley | Cory sounds amenable to the morning slot provided he can get there on the train from london in time. I'll check but I assume that will work. | 19:17 |
| pinner | tartley: no need, we can all look at the Django admin system... | 19:17 |
| Tartley | ok | 19:17 |
| Tartley | zeth, that words for you, right? | 19:17 |
| Tartley | works | 19:17 |
| pinner | tartley: but I'd forgotten, are we talking Tuesday, ie Day 1? | 19:18 |
| Tartley | yes | 19:18 |
| pinner | because I have GvR lined up (unofficially and not to be announce) to do a live video link | 19:18 |
| Tartley | I'm thinking 0900-0930 is the Welcome | 19:18 |
| Tartley | oooooOOOOH! | 19:18 |
| Tartley | and I was thinking 0930-1030 Cory | 19:18 |
| Tartley | what were you thinking? | 19:19 |
| pinner | I was intending to do a very quick intro, then over to Guido, then we go into some inspiring talks | 19:19 |
| Tartley | which is good | 19:19 |
| pinner | and Cory won't be talking about Python, I assume | 19:19 |
| pinner | so maybe not the best thing to kick off with | 19:20 |
| pinner | is Tuesday the only day he can do? | 19:20 |
| zeth | I agree that Cory would be ideal at the end of a day | 19:20 |
| pinner | 'cos maybe we could swap with Jim Hugunin | 19:20 |
| Tartley | Cory can't make the end of the day. I haven't pushed him on it, but he did mention it when we first approached him | 19:20 |
| zeth | these less specialist subjects are nice cool down talks before a social | 19:21 |
| pinner | Tony Hoare is fixed now, and not changeable I believe | 19:21 |
| Tartley | I think it's the only day he can do. I'll can ask him though. | 19:21 |
| pinner | what is limitation in the evening? | 19:21 |
| Tartley | I don't know for sure. It might just be a personal commitment | 19:22 |
| pinner | after all, it's only 80 minutes to London | 19:22 |
| zeth | I think we wants to get here and back in working hours | 19:22 |
| Tartley | I don't think it's that | 19:22 |
| Tartley | he has something in particular to get back for | 19:22 |
| pinner | and we could have a slightly earlier keynote than usual, and leave more time for the bar | 19:23 |
| zeth | "I could come up for the day on the 30th and do a talk -- is it late | 19:23 |
| zeth | enough in the day to come in by train, give the talk and get home in | 19:23 |
| zeth | time to get the baby from the creche? | 19:23 |
| zeth | " | 19:23 |
| pinner | I think we need to establish his exact limits and work around them | 19:23 |
| Tartley | ahar! | 19:23 |
| Tartley | well dug out that man! | 19:23 |
| zeth | 16/12/2008 email from fuzzywuzzy | 19:24 |
| Tartley | I see. | 19:24 |
| pinner | the joys of parenthood | 19:24 |
| zeth | I think after lunch then | 19:24 |
| Tartley | Well. I'm not au fait on the ettique of demands to be made on keynote speakers. Is that inviolate? | 19:24 |
| zeth | so as late as he can | 19:24 |
| zeth | but no later | 19:24 |
| zeth | He is coming without pay, so lets not be pushy | 19:25 |
| pinner | just get his time bandwidth, then we'll schedule around it | 19:25 |
| Tartley | alright | 19:25 |
| Tartley | will do | 19:25 |
| pinner | breaking with tradition wouldn't hurt, even have it mid-afternoon | 19:25 |
| Tartley | in 'mid afternoon nap' period | 19:25 |
| Tartley | not for napping, I'm saying, but for cruising through a less-demanding talk | 19:26 |
| Tartley | ok, well, I'll ask him and work around that - all we can do I guess. | 19:27 |
| Tartley | After I've updated the champions fields I think we're done for now? | 19:28 |
| Tartley | Next I'm looking at John's dictionary of doom :-) | 19:28 |
| pinner | Eeeh? | 19:30 |
| pinner | tartley: if you're doing most of the analogue scheduling, I'm happy to convert it into code | 19:31 |
| * pinner has been out of the room, having posted to the ACCU list there's been some interest but they don't believe the prices | 19:32 | |
| zeth | lol | 19:42 |
| zeth | Cory could always bring the baby with him | 19:43 |
| zeth | Tartley: are we done for the main bit? | 19:44 |
| zeth | I will here all day but will come and go | 19:44 |
| zeth | as I get on with stuff | 19:45 |
| Tartley | yes, we are done: sorry zeth. Thanks for your time! | 19:49 |
| pinner | #endmeeting | 19:53 |
| LarstiQ | I always seem to look at irc just after a meeting is done :) | 20:01 |
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| Chief | Hello. I'm wondering if anyone could point in the direction of online resources for shell integration. I would like to write a python script which can be run from the right click menu in the windows OS only. | 20:10 |
| zeth | You only care about Windows, or you want to lock it down? | 20:11 |
| Chief | I just need to write a quick and dirty script to move a bunch of files around because copy and pasting sucks lol | 20:12 |
| zeth | Being able to click on scripts is about environment variables | 20:12 |
| Chief | So yeah in this case I only care about windows | 20:12 |
| zeth | http://pywm.pyconuk.org/Background/Installing_Python/Windows/ | 20:12 |
| zeth | Under "The Harder Bit" | 20:13 |
| zeth | If that is what you mean? | 20:14 |
| Chief | No | 20:14 |
| Chief | What I'm looking for is to have an option to run a script in my right click menu | 20:14 |
| LarstiQ | Chief: you could look at the bzr/hg shell integration | 20:14 |
| Chief | When I highlight a certain file for example I want to have an option which would run my script | 20:14 |
| Chief | Thanks LarstiQ having a read at that just now | 20:17 |
| Chief | It was actually through using tortoiseSVN that I thought it might be quite handy to be able to do this | 20:17 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: do I remember correctly you being assigned to (my colleague) Ivo Timmermans' talk? | 20:23 |
| zeth | um | 20:23 |
| zeth | Improving Client-side HTTP | 20:24 |
| * LarstiQ nods | 20:24 | |
| Chief | LarstiQ: Just had a quick read. Think thats what I'm looking for. I'll look into it properly when I'm ready to write it. Thanks again. Bye all | 20:24 |
| LarstiQ | Chief: ciao! | 20:25 |
| zeth | LarstiQ: what about it? | 20:25 |
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| zeth | I accepted it, if I remember | 20:26 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: he/we didn't see any (official, other than looking at the wiki) confirmation about it, so expect you might still want his input. | 20:26 |
| zeth | oh right | 20:26 |
| LarstiQ | and the relevant bit now is that he'll be on vacation for 18 days starting tomorrow | 20:26 |
| zeth | I am a bit crap maybe | 20:26 |
| zeth | I have lots to go through | 20:26 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: that's fine | 20:26 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: but if you do want to mail him in the near future, could you CC: wouter@ too? :) | 20:27 |
| * LarstiQ can pick things up from there if need be | 20:27 | |
| zeth | Hi | 21:02 |
| zeth | Sorry I didn't realise the CC bit | 21:02 |
| zeth | I sent it already | 21:02 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: knowing that you did, I can dig it out of Ivo's email. Thanks! | 21:03 |
| zeth | lol | 21:03 |
| zeth | cool | 21:03 |
| zeth | Can you read my email too, that would make my day much easier ;) | 21:04 |
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| Tartley | hi, zeth? | 21:13 |
| zeth | Hi | 21:14 |
| zeth | Hi Tartley | 21:14 |
| Tartley | I'm trying to ssh into ep2009@europython.eu to grab John's scheduling dictionary | 21:14 |
| zeth | oh right | 21:14 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: today? give me some minutes | 21:15 |
| Tartley | can you email me the password? I'm trying one john emailed out but it doesn't seem to be working | 21:15 |
| zeth | LarstiQ: yeah, if you could read all my work email and answer them | 21:15 |
| zeth | then I can just go to the beach | 21:15 |
| zeth | hmmm | 21:15 |
| zeth | Tartley: you had better email pinner | 21:16 |
| zeth | It is not my server | 21:16 |
| LarstiQ | zeth: sure ;) | 21:16 |
| zeth | I probably should not give out passwords | 21:16 |
| zeth | I can email you the dictionary if that helps | 21:16 |
| Tartley | yeah, that'll do. Thanks! | 21:16 |
| zeth | if you know the rough filepath to it | 21:16 |
| Tartley | ah | 21:16 |
| Tartley | well | 21:16 |
| Tartley | yeah | 21:16 |
| Tartley | I gues | 21:16 |
| Tartley | the Talks Timetable ... is defined in a Python dictionary in the module ep2009_schedule.py, | 21:17 |
| Tartley | maybe close to | 21:18 |
| Tartley | /home/ep2009/ep2009site/talk_build/build_talk_pages.sh | 21:18 |
| Tartley | any joy finding the dict zeth? Is that ok, or would you prefer me to go through John for it? | 21:26 |
| zeth | One minute, having network issues here | 21:28 |
| Tartley | np, thanks | 21:28 |
| zeth | hi | 21:32 |
| zeth | so now I am in that directory | 21:32 |
| zeth | what am I looking for? | 21:32 |
| zeth | you want the talks pickle is it? | 21:33 |
| Tartley | a dictionary which I think defines the schedule, to generate the html timetable | 21:37 |
| Tartley | this dictionary is in a module... named ep2009_schedule.py | 21:37 |
| Tartley | I think I'm just going to eyeball it and produce a first cut schedule by hand | 21:38 |
| Tartley | so whatever form is most readable, if there is more than one | 21:38 |
| zeth | Sorry I found it | 21:39 |
| zeth | I was expecting something different | 21:39 |
| zeth | I'll send it to tartley@tartley.com ? | 21:39 |
| Tartley | y | 21:39 |
| Tartley | thx! | 21:39 |
| Tartley | soz 4 pasta sauce on my typing! | 21:40 |
| Tartley | hmmm | 21:40 |
| Tartley | do you know how this works | 21:40 |
| Tartley | I'm suddenly puzzled | 21:40 |
| Tartley | does this dict contain all the attributes of the talks from django? | 21:41 |
| Tartley | aha i see it | 21:41 |
| Tartley | ... | 21:41 |
| Tartley | alright I get it | 21:42 |
| Tartley | thanks zeth | 21:42 |
| zeth | The talks from django are in the pickles | 21:51 |
| zeth | I can send the pickles if that helps | 21:51 |
| Tartley | no I think I'll just cut and paste from the dhanjo summary page into a spreadsheet, thanks! | 21:51 |
| Tartley | I think I'm doing this step manually | 21:52 |
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