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| CMooney | hey jacob22 | 22:24 |
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| CMooney | You wanted quentins email address so you could email him possible sponsors. | 22:24 |
| CMooney | q-AT-qwright-DOT-myzen-DOT-co-DOT-uk | 22:25 |
| CMooney | Hope that works. It's the email he sent messages to the list from. | 22:25 |
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| CMooney | hey fuzzyman | 22:50 |
| fuzzyman | hey | 22:51 |
| CMooney | Just reading over the IRC logs and I've got a question about what you said at 22:41! | 22:52 |
| CMooney | http://mg.pov.lt/europython-irclog/%23europython.2009-01-27.log.html | 22:52 |
| CMooney | fuzzymanlooks like we might have a Turbogears and Pocoo sprint22:41 | 22:52 |
| CMooney | fuzzymantwo separate sprints | 22:52 |
| fuzzyman | right... | 22:53 |
| CMooney | Did you ask them about sprints? | 22:53 |
| fuzzyman | yes | 22:53 |
| CMooney | ie can I add them to the wiki? | 22:53 |
| CMooney | brilliant! | 22:53 |
| fuzzyman | I have asked and they have said maybe | 22:53 |
| fuzzyman | will probably need some financial aid to bring sprint leaders | 22:53 |
| fuzzyman | I've emailed the committee and asked them if it will be possible | 22:54 |
| CMooney | k. Will put that in the minutes. | 22:54 |
| fuzzyman | might as well add them to the Wiki anyway | 22:54 |
| CMooney | Thanks. | 22:54 |
| jacob22 | CMooney: Thanks. I'll send the stuff to him again. | 22:55 |
| CMooney | jacob22, no worries. | 22:56 |
| CMooney | Added to the wiki. | 22:56 |
| fuzzyman | cool | 22:58 |
| jacob22 | I've poked the PyPy'ers about when they want to sprint, but it is hard to get people to make up their minds this far in advance. | 23:01 |
| fuzzyman | yeah - I've tried poking them as well | 23:01 |
| fuzzyman | and they don't want to think about it yet | 23:01 |
| fuzzyman | they say there is always a PyPy sprint though | 23:02 |
| fuzzyman | but they're all complaining about the cost of coming to the UK | 23:02 |
| jacob22 | fuzzyman: You talked to Maciek, that's not quite the same thing. ;-) | 23:02 |
| fuzzyman | heh | 23:03 |
| fuzzyman | yeah, he does like to complain | 23:03 |
| fuzzyman | none of the others responded | 23:03 |
| fuzzyman | well - a few chimed in about the expense | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | Maciek is often heavily involved in organising the sprints though | 23:04 |
| jacob22 | Another important factor is that we have a grant proposal in evaluation. If it comes through, it will change things quite a bit. | 23:04 |
| fuzzyman | we usually get some support from the PSF | 23:04 |
| jacob22 | I'm talking about a grant to support 5 people for 2 years... | 23:05 |
| fuzzyman | for PyPy? | 23:05 |
| fuzzyman | for EuroPython? | 23:05 |
| fuzzyman | who is 'we' | 23:06 |
| jacob22 | Yes, we appied to something called Eurostars. | 23:06 |
| jacob22 | In this case it is Open End, Merlinux and HHU. | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | which of my questions are you replying yes to? | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | who are you by the way? | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | cool | 23:06 |
| fuzzyman | so 'we' is PyPY | 23:07 |
| jacob22 | More or less. We are a subset of PyPy. | 23:07 |
| fuzzyman | who is 'you' though? | 23:07 |
| jacob22 | I'm Jacob Hallén. I'm chairman of the board of Open End. | 23:08 |
| fuzzyman | ah | 23:08 |
| fuzzyman | I don't think I've met you have I? | 23:08 |
| jacob22 | I've done some of the more pedestrian coding in PyPy. | 23:08 |
| fuzzyman | I haven't even done that | 23:09 |
| fuzzyman | I've attended lots of talks and blogged about it a few times... | 23:09 |
| fuzzyman | anyway - the grant application is great news | 23:09 |
| fuzzyman | do you think you are likely to get it? | 23:09 |
| jacob22 | We ought to have met somewhere. Were you at the first Pycon UK? | 23:09 |
| fuzzyman | yes | 23:10 |
| fuzzyman | can you give me a link to open end? | 23:10 |
| fuzzyman | I know merlinuc | 23:10 |
| fuzzyman | *merlinux | 23:10 |
| fuzzyman | who are HHU? | 23:10 |
| fuzzyman | Ah | 23:10 |
| jacob22 | Heinrich Heine Universität in Düsseldorf. | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | Open End includes Laura | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | I know Laura | 23:11 |
| jacob22 | Yes. Laura and I live together. | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | ah | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | cool | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | were you at the first PyPy? | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | oops | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | I mean PyCon UK? | 23:11 |
| fuzzyman | how likely do you think it is that you will get the grant? | 23:12 |
| jacob22 | Yes. I helped out a bit in various ends. | 23:12 |
| jacob22 | I think it is fairly likely. We appied once before. Got approval, but there wasn't enough money to fund all proposals. | 23:13 |
| fuzzyman | ok - we probably met, even if briefly | 23:13 |
| fuzzyman | right - that's very good news | 23:13 |
| fuzzyman | do you know who the five would be? | 23:13 |
| jacob22 | This time we have a more focused proposal and we are known by the grant administrators. | 23:14 |
| fuzzyman | what does the proposal cover? | 23:14 |
| fuzzyman | I'd be very interested in the five | 23:14 |
| fuzzyman | the problem is I guess that a lot of the core guys are involved in academia | 23:15 |
| jacob22 | Yes, more or less. Armin Rigo and CF Bolz from HHU, Samuele Pedroni and Anders Hammarquist from OE and Maciek (and possibly Antonio Cuni) from Merlinux. | 23:15 |
| fuzzyman | Great | 23:15 |
| jacob22 | The proposal is very focused on getting a production ready JIT. | 23:15 |
| fuzzyman | Armin, Carl, Samuele and Anto are a formidable team | 23:16 |
| fuzzyman | fantastic | 23:16 |
| fuzzyman | and you think Armin can be made to cooperate? ;-) | 23:16 |
| fuzzyman | he won't just decide to go mountain climbing instead | 23:16 |
| CMooney | Anyone know who the website guy for ep is? I have a feeling it's zeth.... | 23:16 |
| fuzzyman | well - partly Zeth | 23:17 |
| jacob22 | Without the grant money, we can't afford to have Samuele on the project, and I think he is really needed. He makes things happen. | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | right | 23:17 |
| CMooney | who's the other part then? :) | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | not sure | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | someone to do with sheep... | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | or sheep in their nick anyway | 23:17 |
| CMooney | TheSheep?? | 23:17 |
| CMooney | k | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | yes | 23:17 |
| fuzzyman | jacob22: I've never actually met Samuele, or Armin | 23:18 |
| fuzzyman | but I know Holger, Maciek, Anto and Carl | 23:18 |
| fuzzyman | once my book and a few other small projects are out of the way I would *love* to be involved in PyPy | 23:18 |
| jacob22 | They are both very interesting people. You'll get the chance to talk to the at Europython. | 23:18 |
| fuzzyman | hopefully the grant will include provisions for sprints | 23:19 |
| fuzzyman | I need to come on a couple of PyPy sprints | 23:19 |
| fuzzyman | great | 23:19 |
| jacob22 | We made sure of that. If we get it, the new period will be sprint driven. | 23:19 |
| fuzzyman | great | 23:19 |
| fuzzyman | I'm a big fan of PyPy | 23:20 |
| jacob22 | Got to go. Dinner. | 23:20 |
| fuzzyman | bye | 23:20 |
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