IRC log of #meego for Tuesday, 2013-09-03

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magn00zhello. I'm trying to understand how all projects in the meego-tizen-sailfish world relate to each-other. Did I get this right if MeeGo is the most basic building block for all projects? Mer sits ontop of MeeGo and provides userspace stuff+UI frameworks, and Sailfish sits ontop of Mer, providing the actual user experience? Does Meego only contain kernels, bootloaders and other low-level components? Where does Tizen come in here?14:14
KaIRCthere is no MeeGo any more, there is Mer instead, and Sailfish builds on it - but Tizen is completely unrelated14:15
KaIRCthe only relation is that Intel took experience from the MeeGo project and brought it into the Tizen project14:16
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magn00zoh, i see. so tizen and mer are "competitors"?14:17
KaIRCTizen and Sailfish are14:17
KaIRCMer is an OS core that grew out of the MeeGo community, a building block that doesn't directly compete with anything14:18
KaIRCSailfish, Nemo Mobile and some KDE Active deployments build on the Mer core14:20
magn00zdoes mer collaborate with tizen?14:23
KaIRCnot that I know of14:23
Stskeepsi think we all work together in the upstream projects we use14:24
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KaIRCok, that way, sure14:24
magn00zyou mean tizen and mer both rely on common upstream components? i mean, i guess they both contribute to the kernel etc14:24
magn00zin that way they are collaborating, but not specificially with eachother14:25
magn00zanyway, i'm mostly investigating projects that may become serious alternatives to android. I'm so sick of android, but there seem to be no viable options at this point if you want to migrate14:27
magn00zif i understand things right, tizen and sailfish are not release or not really production-ready?14:27
magn00zalso, perhaps this is not the right channel for such question :)14:27
phakomagn00z: there's either #jollamobile or #sailfishos for that14:28
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phakosailfish sdk has a beta release, tizen depends on the flavour, tizen IVI has seen several releases and is actively used14:29
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KaIRCIVI doesn't help you a lot if you look for smartphone alternatives ;-)14:48
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Gelflinghttp://videobam.com/DKUqd  /  http://c1.videobam.com/storage/23/videos/d/dk/DKUqd/encoded.mp4/e4d4d783c950c01dc397e7b916f4594b/5226138d19:35
Gelfling^^ video from the alternative reality where trolltech wasn't aquired by symbian19:39
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Gelflingrather - what might have been an alternative future in 2007 - by january 2008 that future was cancelled19:50
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timelesshey Stskeeps21:20
Stskeepsmoo timeless21:21
Stskeepshow is life?21:21
timelessi finally got my most recent gas leak fixed21:21
timelessit was hiding between two turns in my finished basement's ceiling21:21
timelessthere was an extra T-junction for ... who knows what (BBQ??)21:22
timelessand there was a crack running along the top of the T21:23
timelessotherwise,... i dunno21:23
timelessthis week's news was interesting21:23
Stskeepsevil21:24
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bad_man_07Hi22:20
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timelesshey, anyone know if Tizen devices are announced (timeline of any sort)?23:43
Stskeepsevery time they announce something it's a delay23:43
Stskeeps:P23:44
timelessheh23:44
timelesshttp://www.tizenphones.com/ claims last month23:44
timelesshttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57592111-94/samsung-delays-first-tizen-phone-to-fourth-quarter/ claims Q423:44
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