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magn00z | hello. I'm trying to understand how all projects in the meego-tizen-sailfish world relate to each-other. Did I get this right if MeeGo is the most basic building block for all projects? Mer sits ontop of MeeGo and provides userspace stuff+UI frameworks, and Sailfish sits ontop of Mer, providing the actual user experience? Does Meego only contain kernels, bootloaders and other low-level components? Where does Tizen come in here? | 14:14 |
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KaIRC | there is no MeeGo any more, there is Mer instead, and Sailfish builds on it - but Tizen is completely unrelated | 14:15 |
KaIRC | the only relation is that Intel took experience from the MeeGo project and brought it into the Tizen project | 14:16 |
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magn00z | oh, i see. so tizen and mer are "competitors"? | 14:17 |
KaIRC | Tizen and Sailfish are | 14:17 |
KaIRC | Mer is an OS core that grew out of the MeeGo community, a building block that doesn't directly compete with anything | 14:18 |
KaIRC | Sailfish, Nemo Mobile and some KDE Active deployments build on the Mer core | 14:20 |
magn00z | does mer collaborate with tizen? | 14:23 |
KaIRC | not that I know of | 14:23 |
Stskeeps | i think we all work together in the upstream projects we use | 14:24 |
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KaIRC | ok, that way, sure | 14:24 |
magn00z | you mean tizen and mer both rely on common upstream components? i mean, i guess they both contribute to the kernel etc | 14:24 |
magn00z | in that way they are collaborating, but not specificially with eachother | 14:25 |
magn00z | anyway, i'm mostly investigating projects that may become serious alternatives to android. I'm so sick of android, but there seem to be no viable options at this point if you want to migrate | 14:27 |
magn00z | if i understand things right, tizen and sailfish are not release or not really production-ready? | 14:27 |
magn00z | also, perhaps this is not the right channel for such question :) | 14:27 |
phako | magn00z: there's either #jollamobile or #sailfishos for that | 14:28 |
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phako | sailfish sdk has a beta release, tizen depends on the flavour, tizen IVI has seen several releases and is actively used | 14:29 |
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KaIRC | IVI doesn't help you a lot if you look for smartphone alternatives ;-) | 14:48 |
phako | pffff | 14:51 |
phako | details | 14:51 |
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Gelfling | http://videobam.com/DKUqd / http://c1.videobam.com/storage/23/videos/d/dk/DKUqd/encoded.mp4/e4d4d783c950c01dc397e7b916f4594b/5226138d | 19:35 |
Gelfling | ^^ video from the alternative reality where trolltech wasn't aquired by symbian | 19:39 |
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Gelfling | rather - what might have been an alternative future in 2007 - by january 2008 that future was cancelled | 19:50 |
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timeless | hey Stskeeps | 21:20 |
Stskeeps | moo timeless | 21:21 |
Stskeeps | how is life? | 21:21 |
timeless | i finally got my most recent gas leak fixed | 21:21 |
timeless | it was hiding between two turns in my finished basement's ceiling | 21:21 |
timeless | there was an extra T-junction for ... who knows what (BBQ??) | 21:22 |
timeless | and there was a crack running along the top of the T | 21:23 |
timeless | otherwise,... i dunno | 21:23 |
timeless | this week's news was interesting | 21:23 |
Stskeeps | evil | 21:24 |
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bad_man_07 | Hi | 22:20 |
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timeless | hey, anyone know if Tizen devices are announced (timeline of any sort)? | 23:43 |
Stskeeps | every time they announce something it's a delay | 23:43 |
Stskeeps | :P | 23:44 |
timeless | heh | 23:44 |
timeless | http://www.tizenphones.com/ claims last month | 23:44 |
timeless | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57592111-94/samsung-delays-first-tizen-phone-to-fourth-quarter/ claims Q4 | 23:44 |
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