IRC log of #meego for Monday, 2013-07-22

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Tujuwhat was the nokia product which sim-holder-tray fits into nokia n9 and uses mini-sim card?11:27
Tujuthat is, allowing use of mini-sim cards in nokia n9.11:27
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mschlens_Tuju: the N9 only takes mini-sim cards11:34
mschlens_or micro sim?11:34
Tujumschlens_: i've heard otherwise11:34
psycho_oreosI thought it was only micro-sim not mini-sim.11:34
mschlens_So if it's micro sim, you're pretty much out of luck with mini sim.11:34
mschlens_But it most definitely doesn't take regular SIMs.11:35
Tujua guy who worked at nokia sw  development had used some other phone's sim tray that was designed for mini-sim.11:35
Tujui heard it from his brother that.11:35
Tujuhmm....now he's talking to his bro.11:36
psycho_oreosYou couldn't ask his brother which tray was it from or where did he source it?11:36
mschlens_I assume it's much easier to get a mini-SIM to micro-SIM format than finding a mini-SIM adapter.11:36
Tujuwe're trying as we speak, but it seems to take ages.11:36
mschlens_Tuju: why don't you just cut the mini SIM to size?11:38
mschlens_(or get a new SIM for that matter... )11:38
Tujuthe other phone was n8, but now it's unclear again - is that doable or not.11:39
mschlens_cutting it to size? Yes.11:39
Tujuno.11:39
mschlens_Finding a mini-SIM adapter for the N9? Unlikely.11:39
Tujuapparently n8 was designed for mini-sim and had an option micro-sim-tray available11:40
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Tujuso apparently - again, it would be n8's default tray that should fit into n9.11:41
mschlens_what makes you think that?11:41
mschlens_Because it's N-series?11:41
mschlens_Again, why don't you just cut the card to size?11:41
Tujuafter talking to him about this, i got the feeling that this was all hoax, it's not doable.11:42
psycho_oreosIf you googled for N8 mini SIM tray, you would see that there's photos and videos that N8 does not have a tray like N9, its only a slot.11:42
mschlens_Tuju: No shit, Sherlock. Because it doesn't make sense.11:43
Tujui didn't make it up, he himself talked me about that when n9 was still in production.11:43
mschlens_But it's cool that you're ignoring suggestions and questions that don't fit your narrative.11:43
psycho_oreosIf N9 is still in production, why can't I go buy one from nokia directly?11:44
Tujupsycho_oreos: "when it was", imo it's not.11:45
Tujuthese days.11:45
psycho_oreosSomeone is bluffing, you had tools available at your disposal.11:45
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psycho_oreosTuju, even at that a simple google search would show you n8 does not have a tray.11:46
Tujui never owned one so i'm just referring what i've heard.11:46
mschlens_And it would also show him, that the N9 only has a micro SIM adapter (and google search would also show him a gazillion ways to cut a mini SIM to size)11:46
psycho_oreosYou don't need to own one. I don't even have n8, I just googled and the answer comes out.11:47
Tujumschlens_: n9 doesn't have adapter, it's a tray.11:47
mschlens_ray, adapter, atever11:47
mschlens_wow, packet loss. Nice11:47
mschlens_Either way: You will not find a mini SIM tray11:47
mschlens_Still don't understand your motive, but whatever.11:48
mschlens_To each his own.11:48
Tujuso it seems and it sucks when n9 has crappy charging connector that breaks11:48
psycho_oreosHe wants someone else to clarify, yet google search yields informative and direct answers.11:48
mschlens_I guess it only sucks when you have clumsy fingers11:48
mschlens_psycho_oreos: I believe he just wants to troll.11:49
psycho_oreosn9's microUSB port is nowhere near as bad as N900's.11:49
Tujuironically industry dropped mini-usb in favor of micro-usb because "micro is more durable"11:49
psycho_oreosLOL.11:49
Tujuwhich it most likely is, but it's still crap and doesn't last nearly enough.11:50
psycho_oreosWhat has that got to do with n9 and microUSB? aren't most other manufacturers following suit except for the likes of apple?11:50
Tujui thought it reads above, and still does.11:51
psycho_oreosI think you've gotten your facts wrong, and for two very different answers, one for each case you mention.11:52
Tujui got a phone for being available and so far n9 hasn't filled that need as it should.11:52
mschlens_Tuju: then just sell it, got something that fits your needs and stop complaining and/or trolling.11:52
psycho_oreosIts not our fault that n9 didn't meet your expectations.11:53
Tujumschlens_: so you think that if a product has a problem and people are seeking ways to solve it, it should not be talked in silente freenode channel?11:53
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Tujupsycho_oreos: did i say so, that it would be your fault?11:53
psycho_oreosThis is not a ##nokia channel.11:53
Tujupsycho_oreos: so fucking what?11:53
mschlens_The next you'll see is him complaining about the N9 not being android/iOS, being out of support and not having millions of apps.11:53
psycho_oreosTuju, you were implying.11:53
Tujupsycho_oreos: you wanted to think so, so you thought I'm implaying things that i've not said.11:54
psycho_oreosTuju, "n9 has crappy charging connector that breaks", "n9 hasn't filled that need as it should." and now.. "so you think that if a product has a problem and people are seeking ways to solve it, it should not be talked in silente freenode channel?".. wait let me get this straight, you weren't really complaining how bad your n9 experience was?11:56
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Tujushould i be telling otherwise if it has been crappy experience?11:56
Tujuyou think that would not be 'trolling' then?11:57
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psycho_oreosIt all lies in the way one phrases things.11:57
iekkuTuju, i think you have mixed up N9 and N95011:58
Tujuand that doesn't fit to your fanboying n9 so i must be trolling.11:58
Tujuiekku: nope, i've both here.11:58
Tujugenerally, the whole micro-usb thing is not even really n9 specific, i think that connector is used widely in other models as well.11:59
psycho_oreosIt doesn't need to fit anything. The point was pretty clear, no need to mull over fanboyism11:59
iekkuand for N9, i would try #N9 or #harmattan, if they still are  available11:59
Tujuiekku: ack, didn't know that.11:59
iekkuas N9 wasn't a real meego device, but a meego harmattan device12:00
Tujubut i stop 'trolling' now and go order new connectors.12:00
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Tujuiekku: no it wasn't, harmittan uses .deb pkgs.12:00
iekkuTuju, trust me, i know what i'm talking about12:01
iekkuN9 is using meego harmattan, not meego12:01
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Tujuiekku: i was saying/repeating the same thing as you :)12:01
iekkui just read the part "no it wasn't" and reacted :P12:01
Tujulast time i came one/some of these channels and claimed the same thing, I was named being "yet another butt-hurt fedora developer"12:02
mschlens_I wouldn't put Fedora to blame...12:02
iekkuwow, more converstaion in 20 minutes than past 3 months in total :P12:03
iekkuconversation also..12:03
Tujui stated something like 'imo the distro is mostly defined from it's pkging system, services systems and policies' and meego had rpm defined.12:03
mschlens_iekku: unfortunately entirely OT :-D12:03
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Tujuso why do you sit here day after day and nobody talks anything?12:08
mschlens_Just to annoy you and feel compelled to ask this question.12:08
chriadam:-)12:08
chriadamyou'd be surprised.  there is often useful talk in here.  and it's a good place to get into contact with certain people when necessary :-)12:09
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Tujuah, didn't know that. anyway, thanks for comments, I proceed with spares checkout now.12:11
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mschlens_*shakes head*12:14
psycho_oreosI didn't realise I was talking in #meego lol, oh well :D (recalls when #meego had lots of dev activity).12:16
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Tujuone more thing...12:17
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mschlens_psycho_oreos: yeah, same here.12:17
mschlens_:)12:17
psycho_oreosAhh nostalgia after getting bewildered :D12:18
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Tujuiekku: ping, i pm'd you.12:33
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