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| CosmoHill | look! a ceiling! | 00:02 |
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| pixelgeek1 | "(9:47:53 AM) CosmoHill: pixelgeek: I didn't know you worked for Intel" <- and now you do :) | 01:27 |
| CosmoHill | having fun with latency there? | 01:27 |
| pixelgeek1 | Too many mtgs | 01:27 |
| CosmoHill | mtgs? | 01:27 |
| pixelgeek1 | meetings | 01:27 |
| CosmoHill | did you really need to shorten that? | 01:28 |
| pixelgeek1 | y | 01:28 |
| pixelgeek1 | :) | 01:28 |
| CosmoHill | hehe | 01:28 |
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| DawnFoster | CosmoHill: here at Intel, we can make whole sentences out of acronyms & shortened words :) | 01:34 |
| CosmoHill | you people must love texting | 01:34 |
| CosmoHill | http://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/album.php?albumid=8&pictureid=114 :) | 01:35 |
| w00t | DawnFoster: i had a great moment in a conversation the other day.. I asked what an acronym meant that someone had used in conversation.. "I don't know, actually" | 01:35 |
| w00t | parody is dead | 01:36 |
| DawnFoster | w00t: been there :) | 01:36 |
| DawnFoster | sometimes I know what they *mean* but not what they originally stood for | 01:36 |
| w00t | yes | 01:36 |
| w00t | this one means "lots of paperwork" | 01:36 |
| w00t | I'd like to know what it stood for though :-) | 01:36 |
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| CosmoHill | speaking of acronyms | 01:38 |
| CosmoHill | html: .o/ | 01:38 |
| html | hi | 01:38 |
| html | what about e? | 01:39 |
| html | me? | 01:39 |
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| CosmoHill | html is an acronym | 01:39 |
| html | its also whats the net is build on | 01:41 |
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| linu | i want to know the baisics of meego? | 10:06 |
| linu | abner: i want to know the base of meego? | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | meego's it's own base | 10:08 |
| linu | its a project part of our study. i am new to this topic. i want to learn Qt programing. can u suggest best article for it. | 10:10 |
| RST38h | Moo, all | 10:13 |
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| linu | how we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications | 10:21 |
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| linu | chayin:how we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications | 10:47 |
| linu | mkeir:how we can create a component like downloader in Qt applications? | 10:48 |
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| Asmageddon | Hello | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 20:09 |
| Asmageddon | How do I dual boot Meego and Cyanogen Mod? | 20:09 |
| Asmageddon | I've got bootmenu and CM already installed | 20:09 |
| Asmageddon | And I'd like to check MeeGo out, potentially switching permanently | 20:10 |
| Stskeeps | on what device? | 20:11 |
| Asmageddon | Motorola DEFY | 20:11 |
| Asmageddon | I don't really know how to install MeeGo at all | 20:11 |
| Asmageddon | TBH I don't even know how to dual boot anything using bootmenu | 20:11 |
| Asmageddon | I'd install GRUB but bootmenu has got recovery and other stuff I need for now | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | doubt that runs meego :) | 20:12 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 20:12 |
| Asmageddon | Why not? | 20:13 |
| Asmageddon | MeeGo runs on ARMEL doesn't it? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ok, it's a omap3610 | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | it might run meego then, but you do need to do a lot of leg work yourself | 20:14 |
| Asmageddon | As long as somebody tells me how to I don't mind | 20:14 |
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| Asmageddon | Oh right... I better start making a backup just in case | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | as in, you need to do a lot of technical leg work yourself | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | compiling linux kernels, etc | 20:14 |
| Asmageddon | Don't mind that | 20:15 |
| Asmageddon | I've got everything required to build one here | 20:15 |
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| Asmageddon | Waiting few hours doesn't bother me much | 20:15 |
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| Stskeeps | know how to flash your own rootfs to it? | 20:17 |
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| Asmageddon | Nooot really | 20:17 |
| Asmageddon | I've installed CM following a guide | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | okay, then that's probably going to be a tough ride for you :) | 20:17 |
| Asmageddon | I don't mind. I find learning pleasant | 20:17 |
| Asmageddon | And learning helps me cope with depression and thoughts of my own uselessness | 20:18 |
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| Stskeeps | okay, so, sort out how to 1) boot your own linux kernel on it and 2) how to boot your own root file system on it | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | this is specific per device and motorola defy isn't exactly a supported device, so i have no idea about it | 20:18 |
| Asmageddon | I see | 20:19 |
| Asmageddon | Is there a way to do it using bootmenu? | 20:19 |
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| Stskeeps | i don't know about bootmenu :) | 20:19 |
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| Stskeeps | in addition to that.. what do you expect from it? | 20:19 |
| Asmageddon | It lets you run different init scripts for Android, has backup/recovery tools, etc. | 20:19 |
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| Asmageddon | I expect it to run and at the very least work with touchscreen and WiFi or 3G | 20:20 |
| Asmageddon | Would be sweet if it would run flawlessly | 20:20 |
| Asmageddon | So, where do I download MeeGo and what do I download? | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | right, the thing is, you'd have to do most of this work yourself :) | 20:21 |
| Stskeeps | ie set up touchscreen, wifi, 3g support | 20:21 |
| Asmageddon | I've got plenty of time, I don't mind | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | and in the end you might not even be able to make voicecalls with it | 20:22 |
| Asmageddon | I don't mind, this is for !!SCIENCE!! and not being useful in any way | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | okay, i'd recommend you to figure out the first two, booting your own linux kernel and 2) booting your own file system | 20:23 |
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| Stskeeps | after that's solved, the world is open for you | 20:23 |
| Asmageddon | Ok | 20:23 |
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| Asmageddon | I've seen some guides for getting Debian on Android phones that covered this part | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | right, they're usually chroots | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | you need to actually boot the system | 20:24 |
| Asmageddon | I've already got debian in chroot here, I mean there were few about dual booting | 20:25 |
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| Asmageddon | let me reboot into bootmenu and mount /system .... | 20:26 |
| Stskeeps | besides that, remember meego as a project is kinda dead - there's two paths people went, www.merproject.org - focusing on a core, open governance, and tizen, intel and samsung's html5-centered stack | 20:27 |
| Asmageddon | Oh... | 20:27 |
| Asmageddon | Then what? Maemo? | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | maemo isn't open source | 20:27 |
| Asmageddon | Mhm | 20:28 |
| Asmageddon | Meh, I'll go with MeeGo | 20:28 |
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| Asmageddon | Except I really don't know where to even start :/ | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | booting your own linux kernel first, then booting your own file system | 20:36 |
| Asmageddon | Yeah.... | 20:37 |
| Asmageddon | I'd know how to do this on a desktop with grub, but I don't even know where android's image is on my phone.... | 20:37 |
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| Asmageddon | Looks like Android kernel is on /boot but I don't know how to access it | 20:44 |
| Asmageddon | I only know how to get into /system and /userdata | 20:44 |
| Asmageddon | Hmmm. Perhaps via ADB | 20:45 |
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| Asmageddon | One more thing Stskeeps - I've got really slow internet, so could you link me to whatever I need to download so it finished by the time I figure it all out? | 20:52 |
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| Stskeeps | that's another topic, i'd start out with one of the nokia n900 images | 20:57 |
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| Asmageddon | Where can I get it? | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | repo.meego.com | 20:57 |
| Asmageddon | There's a lot of stuff there, what should I pick? | 20:58 |
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