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| CosmoHill | pixelgeek: aww just thought of something | 00:19 |
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| CosmoHill | you know I said you should tell your kids it was the 26th, not xmas | 00:19 |
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| CosmoHill | should have replaced all calendars in the house with 2013 ones | 00:19 |
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| CosmoHill | aaaaaahhhhhhh | 01:48 |
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| berndhs | that wouldn't have happened with one of the new Tizen phones | 01:51 |
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| CosmoHill | ferris bueller's day off followed by scary movie | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | talk about a juckster position | 01:56 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hey, anyone around at this hour? i was wondering how much of the nokia fork and the N9 firmware is open source | 07:42 |
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| dm8tbr | which nokia fork? harmattan preceded even meego 1.0 | 07:58 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: well, meego/harmattan 1.2, the n9 os | 07:59 |
| dm8tbr | [..] harmattan preceded even meego 1.0 | 07:59 |
| Stskeeps | your answer is "not really open source" | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/ is the answer | 08:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, that's what it seems to be called, "MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan" | 08:00 |
| Stskeeps | yes, and it's a bullshit naming :) | 08:00 |
| dm8tbr | yes, that's the _marketing_ name | 08:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so even if it's based off of meego < 1.0, nokia's calling it 1.2 :p | 08:00 |
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| Stskeeps | not based off meego 1.2 | 08:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well that does clear a few things up | 08:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and Stskeeps: yeah, i found that url...i was hoping i'd find a more satisfying answer from the pros, but nope :( | 08:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | guess they're just releasing the bare minimum gpl stuff | 08:01 |
| Stskeeps | almost all UI apps are closed source | 08:01 |
| dm8tbr | you were probably hoping for the UI: most certainly no | 08:01 |
| dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: you might want to have a look at nemo mobile though | 08:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yup, exactly, i was hoping to customize the frontend apps, since they aren't really fullfledged atm as it seems | 08:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | fortunately i haven't actually bought one yet | 08:02 |
| Stskeeps | if you're interested in anything open source, http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRnOazNu9Q | 08:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it's one very slick piece of hardware...missing out on functionality and having no way to put it in kills it | 08:02 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hmm, i'll look into that | 08:02 |
| dm8tbr | I don't quite understand what you refer to as "[not] really fullfledged atm" | 08:04 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: well for example, no s/mime in the mail app | 08:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just not having the sort of features of something that's been hammered at for quite a few years | 08:05 |
| dm8tbr | it feels like about 0.05% of my mails come with such a signature | 08:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm not interested in signing, but encryption | 08:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | signing is kind of useless for precisely that reason | 08:06 |
| dm8tbr | then you shouldn't decrypt mails _on_ a portable device anyway | 08:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | since it's not ubiquitous, it's expected for a message not to be signed, so if someone wants to falsify a message, all they have to do is not sign it | 08:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, if you want to use encrypted email, and you want to read email on the go, there isn't much of a choice | 08:07 |
| dm8tbr | ssh+mutt serves me well... | 08:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i don't really see any reason not to do that, besides the fact that software support is pretty limited right now | 08:07 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | that isn't very pretty... | 08:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol, mutt...the fact that the gpg developers use mutt is probably the main reason why gpg GUIs are all abjectly awful | 08:08 |
| dm8tbr | anyway, I didn't run into much things that I'd miss with the device | 08:09 |
| dm8tbr | YMMV ofc | 08:10 |
| dm8tbr | it's easy enough to write QML apps for the device though | 08:10 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | true, true | 08:12 |
| dm8tbr | also if you want to discuss harmattan specifics #harmattan is probably the better place. people should start waking up soon. | 08:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ah, didn't know there was a channel for that...i'm half surprised there's a meego channel with this many people in it | 08:18 |
| dm8tbr | it used to be full of life until last summer. | 08:24 |
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| suzu | is there any tool in meego to do the memory profiling for particular process ? | 09:26 |
| dm8tbr | how about valgrind? | 09:27 |
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| suzu | dm8tbr : is that tell information for running process ? | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://maemo.org/development/tools/doc/diablo/sp-smaps-measure/ maybe | 09:30 |
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| CosmoHill | I actually put it in a channel topic cos it annoyed me so much | 19:04 |
| CosmoHill | or it could have been "don't pm without asking first" | 19:04 |
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| CosmoHill | does anybody have a bomb that could destroy something the size of wales? | 23:06 |
| RST38h | Cosmo: May I suggest chemical or biological agents instead? | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | CosmoHill: tsar bomba? :) | 23:07 |
| RST38h | Cosmo: Hate damaging the scenery | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | or the size of cardiff | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there's a website that lets you overlay nuke radii on a google map | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | RST38h: good point | 23:07 |
| CosmoHill | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16331453.stm | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16 | 23:07 |
| RST38h | Ah, Cardiff... The Riff! The Riff! | 23:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | looks like all of wales is a bit too much for even the biggest nuke ever | 23:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but laying cardiff to waste isn't so much of a problem | 23:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a better question...who would want to destroy wales, lol | 23:09 |
| RST38h | As a testing run, maybe... | 23:09 |
| CosmoHill | see the link | 23:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol, you brits are sure crazy about your football >_> | 23:10 |
| RST38h | Cosmo: Some guys in colored uniforms won over someother guys in colored uniforms? | 23:10 |
| RST38h | Cosmo: Always made me wonder why don't they simply hand each of these folks a ball to prevent them from fighting over the single one | 23:11 |
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| * CosmoHill isn't a football crazy person | 23:17 | |
| CosmoHill | well | 23:17 |
| CosmoHill | depends who you're comparing me too | 23:18 |
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