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| CosmoHill | stupid playstation clock is always an hour fast | 00:54 |
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| Alison_Chaiken | http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/21/intel-shows-off-smartphone-reference-design-claims-performance-gains-over-arm/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29 | 01:07 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Atom phone running Android? | 01:07 |
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| nightwalk | Awesome! Should be a lot easier to drop the android garbage off of and reload with something that actually makes sense and is useful | 01:28 |
| thiago | Alison_Chaiken: if it's intel, it's an atom | 01:29 |
| nightwalk | Unlike this blasted ARM-based tablet I keep meaning to try to port meego to... | 01:29 |
| * nightwalk glares at the gtablet on the desk | 01:29 | |
| Alison_Chaiken | thiago, I was wondering if the unit would be a shipping phone, not whether it would be Atom! | 01:30 |
| Alison_Chaiken | Speaking of Intel, anyone know if "ath3k_probe: error loading firmware" for BT driver means that WiFi won't come up either? | 01:31 |
| Alison_Chaiken | ath9k is WiFi, of course, but in fact it doesn't come up even though it lsmod's okay. | 01:31 |
| nightwalk | A better question is, why don't you have the firmware files for it? | 01:32 |
| Alison_Chaiken | And what are they called? | 01:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | ;-) | 01:33 |
| Alison_Chaiken | All right, I'll just have to do my own work then. | 01:33 |
| nightwalk | The package that provides them is probably called kernel-firmware | 01:33 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: cuz they're proprietary, duh | 01:33 |
| nightwalk | luke-jr: makes sense. I'm not up on the state of the various oss vs. proprietary wifi firmwares :( | 01:34 |
| luke-jr | I'd like to see Atom go months without recharging… | 01:34 |
| nightwalk | I'd like to see that from *any* device, actually | 01:34 |
| luke-jr | my watch has been going for years. | 01:34 |
| nightwalk | The computer's "watch" goes for years, too ;) | 01:35 |
| luke-jr | :P | 01:35 |
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| luke-jr | my N900 can do 1 month if it's offline and I don't use it | 01:35 |
| CosmoHill | what's the point in that? | 01:35 |
| nightwalk | That has more to do with the battery technology though... | 01:35 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: not really, no | 01:36 |
| luke-jr | CosmoHill: I haven't figured that out yet | 01:36 |
| nightwalk | Battery technology hasn't advanced much in the past ~50 years, sadly... | 01:36 |
| CosmoHill | seriously, what's the point in super long battery life if you can only archieve it by not using it | 01:36 |
| nightwalk | CosmoHill: maybe so you don't have to charge it every five minutes...? | 01:36 |
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| CosmoHill | a week is good | 01:37 |
| nightwalk | Honestly, a phone *should* only be using power for the phone radio most of the time. Anything else is a luxury we can't really afford, given the sad state of the battery technologies :/ | 01:38 |
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| CosmoHill | people gets phones and then leave the bluetooh and wifi and other stuff on | 01:39 |
| nightwalk | So? If they aren't being used, they should be turned off automatically by the software | 01:40 |
| CosmoHill | the software is a smart as the users | 01:40 |
| nightwalk | Or the software should suspend-to-ram, hibernate, or whatever and wake on ring | 01:40 |
| luke-jr | fact is, if the device only lasts a week when you're not using it, it probably won't last an hour if you are | 01:40 |
| luke-jr | wifi should always be used :P | 01:41 |
| CosmoHill | my phone lasts a long time if I have it on | 01:41 |
| nightwalk | Maybe if you're somewhere were you *can* use it :P | 01:41 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: why suspend, when idle uses virtually no power? | 01:41 |
| nightwalk | > 0 != 0 | 01:41 |
| luke-jr | ok, for comparison… why spend X mWh preparing to suspend and waking up, when idling for a few hours uses X / 2 mWh? | 01:42 |
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| nightwalk | because batteries suck, suspending to ram has very little cost, and because many people use their phone only sporadically (so the power savings are likely to add up) | 01:43 |
| CosmoHill | what happens if someone phones you? | 01:43 |
| nightwalk | That's why I said it needs to wake on ring ;) | 01:43 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: idling for hours has less cost, than suspending and waking | 01:44 |
| berndhs | i use my phone to check mail or skype or similar thigns without getting up and starting a big computer | 01:44 |
| luke-jr | even once | 01:44 |
| nightwalk | I haven't seen any numbers either way, so I can't argue that point. All I can say is that it isn't logical at worst, and it's counter-intuitive at best | 01:44 |
| nightwalk | berndhs: for uses like that, they really should offer double-sized batteries for most phone models | 01:46 |
| berndhs | sure would be better | 01:46 |
| nightwalk | A slightly more bulky phone is a small price to pay for not having to be tied to a charger cable constantly | 01:46 |
| berndhs | and a slightly heavier device would be ok | 01:47 |
| nightwalk | heavier devices would be better "theft deterrent", that's for sure :) | 01:47 |
| luke-jr | I prefer as large as I can comfortably fit in my pocket, and weight doesn't matter much to me | 01:49 |
| nightwalk | Since I'm here and thinking about it... anyone aware of any efforts at porting meego to the viewsonic gtablet? I understand they already got ubuntu working on it by borrowing from the vega porting effort, but google didn't return anything meaningful about the state of meego on that particular device | 01:49 |
| luke-jr | isn't Meego dead? | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 01:50 |
| nightwalk | intel and various others still support it, last I checked | 01:50 |
| CosmoHill | but like any good zombie, it just keeps coming back | 01:50 |
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| luke-jr | lol | 01:50 |
| luke-jr | maybe I should solicit here for developers to join me in my Gentoo port ;) | 01:51 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 01:51 |
| nightwalk | can't be *too* dead, or this channel wouldn't exist, and/or there wouldn't be this many people idling here >_> | 01:51 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: just look at #Maemo | 01:51 |
| nightwalk | eww...gentoo :( | 01:51 |
| daniel_o | :D | 01:52 |
| luke-jr | I've got cellmo and omapfb working already :P | 01:52 |
| nightwalk | rebuilding everything to gain a 0.0001% performance boost always struck me as pretty asinine | 01:52 |
| luke-jr | and wifi ofc | 01:52 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: that's not the point | 01:52 |
| CosmoHill | nightwalk: you'd hate LFS | 01:52 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: the point is CUSTOMIZATION | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | ie, none of that *kit crap | 01:53 |
| CosmoHill | luke-jr: you'd love LFS | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | eg* | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | CosmoHill: I used LFS before Gentoo | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | Gentoo is more or less automated LFS | 01:53 |
| nightwalk | Step 1, download sources (and wait). Step 2, build sources (and wait again). Step 3: ???. Step 4: profit! | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: or just use my binary package repo :p | 01:53 |
| luke-jr | except for firmwares I can't distribute | 01:53 |
| daniel_o | nightwalk: hrhrhr :D | 01:53 |
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| luke-jr | you have to install those from "source" | 01:53 |
| * CosmoHill is doing a CLFS build | 01:54 | |
| nightwalk | luke-jr: kind of defeats the purpose of gentoo then, no? | 01:54 |
| luke-jr | nope | 01:54 |
| nightwalk | I like the idea of the package manager just being a set of shell scripts, but the execution seems severely flawed and generally error-prone | 01:55 |
| luke-jr | … | 01:55 |
| nightwalk | ...and that's after having used yum ( == python garbage ) for years, so my expectations in that area are generally low anyway ;) | 01:55 |
| luke-jr | if "just works" is severely flawed and generally error-prone | 01:55 |
| nightwalk | Then again, even being garbage-quality yum is sadly *still* the most capable package manager wrapper I've come across :/ | 01:56 |
| luke-jr | … | 01:56 |
| luke-jr | yum is the worst | 01:56 |
| CosmoHill | yum yum yum | 01:56 |
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| nightwalk | luke-jr: it's more like install package->downloading->crash! >_> | 01:57 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: maybe if you set some insane CFLAGS | 01:57 |
| luke-jr | if you use standard stable CFLAGS, it's generally fine | 01:57 |
| nightwalk | Iirc, gentoo was one of the two distros that lacked virtio support out-of-the-box last time I tried it, too | 01:58 |
| nightwalk | Arch and Gentoo both are kinda disappoint me, since neither one is very robust | 01:59 |
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| nightwalk | At least, not in the sense that you can install either one to virtio, iscsi luns, etc with minimal effort and knowledge | 01:59 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: … wtf? | 01:59 |
| CosmoHill | what edition of windows do you two prefer? vista or me? | 02:00 |
| luke-jr | Gentoo doesn't provide you with a kernel | 02:00 |
| nightwalk | *can* gentoo be installed directly to an iscsi lun? | 02:00 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: I would presume so | 02:00 |
| nightwalk | Or an aoe volume for that matter? Or a virtio volume? | 02:00 |
| luke-jr | wait, are you trying to boot their LiveCDs? | 02:01 |
| nightwalk | I can't say for sure with gentoo, but I just recently revisited Arch, and Arch *does* finally have virtio support in its installer kernel. No way to install to iscsi though, and no easy way to hack in the openiscsi tools | 02:01 |
| CosmoHill | I tried gentoo on ultrasparc | 02:02 |
| luke-jr | I can't remember the last time I installed Gentoo from their LiveCDs | 02:02 |
| CosmoHill | it could burn in hell for all the good it did | 02:02 |
| luke-jr | last time, I installed from Maemo | 02:02 |
| luke-jr | before that, I installed from an old Gentoo system | 02:02 |
| luke-jr | before that, I think I installed from a Kubuntu LiveCD | 02:02 |
| nightwalk | luke-jr: I don't think so. It's been a while since I tried gentoo...probably should download a new version and see if they've actually bothered to add any of the missing must-haves | 02:02 |
| luke-jr | … | 02:03 |
| luke-jr | you must have some weird must-haves. | 02:03 |
| CosmoHill | daniel_o: how are you? | 02:04 |
| nightwalk | Nope...just virtio and iscsi. Those two are arguably more important than any other block drivers, since everything is moving toward virtualized infrastructure | 02:04 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: block drivers are a kernel thing. | 02:05 |
| daniel_o | CosmoHill: full.. just had lunch :D, and you? tired? :D | 02:05 |
| CosmoHill | yeah | 02:05 |
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| CosmoHill | should brush my teeth and head to bed | 02:05 |
| luke-jr | nightwalk: Gentoo doesn't provide a kernel. You need to configure and build your own. | 02:05 |
| CosmoHill | wait, I'm in bed, awesome | 02:05 |
| daniel_o | hahaha :D awesome | 02:05 |
| nightwalk | luke-jr: not entirely. There are user space components too | 02:05 |
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| CosmoHill | luke-jr: tell me more about this port | 02:15 |
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| luke-jr | CosmoHill: media-libs/libcmtspeechdata, media-video/omap3camera-firmware, sys-kernel/fremantle-power-sources, net-misc/ofono, sys-kernel/fremantle-sources, net-misc/phonet-utils, net-voip/telepathy-ring, net-wireless/bcm2048-firmware, net-wireless/wl1251-firmware, x11-drivers/xf86-input-tslib, x11-misc/xkb-nokia, sys-apps/nit-bootmenu-compat | 02:17 |
| luke-jr | are the packages in the N900 overlay that I have working | 02:17 |
| CosmoHill | sounds like I'd need a N900 to help | 02:17 |
| luke-jr | :p | 02:18 |
| CosmoHill | I also need a ipod touch for some web work | 02:19 |
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| luke-jr | Apple = joke | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | cash cow | 02:19 |
| CosmoHill | someone's offered to pay me money if I can develop something | 02:20 |
| luke-jr | so they can provide the iPhone too, right? :P | 02:20 |
| CosmoHill | nope | 02:20 |
| CosmoHill | part of me would be happy if I get a web dev job | 02:22 |
| CosmoHill | another part of me things "you didn't need a degree for this" | 02:22 |
| daniel_o | start with web dev job first, and look around if u find sth else after that.. working experience is alsways nice to have | 02:23 |
| CosmoHill | I got 3 weeks work experience in january | 02:24 |
| daniel_o | :D 3weeks :D | 02:24 |
| daniel_o | i thought about sth like, a couple of months.. :D | 02:24 |
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| CosmoHill | unpaid work exp | 02:25 |
| daniel_o | ah ok | 02:25 |
| CosmoHill | i need a ipod so I can shake it like a baby | 02:27 |
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| daniel_o | O.o | 02:27 |
| CosmoHill | they want it to do something when it's shaken | 02:28 |
| CosmoHill | looks like I'll be porting C to javascript, woo | 02:30 |
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| CosmoHill | the iphone 4S is the same value as my car | 02:34 |
| daniel_o | hahaha :D | 02:35 |
| daniel_o | cheap car :D | 02:35 |
| CosmoHill | more useful than an iphone | 02:36 |
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| nightwalk | true dat... | 02:40 |
| CosmoHill | plus iphone users get a bit pissy if you start putting petrol in it | 02:46 |
| CosmoHill | I do think some of my mates are, to be polite, fecking retarded to buy iphones | 02:47 |
| CosmoHill | £440 for the phone + 12 month overpriced contract | 02:48 |
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| CosmoHill | it's £500 unlocked, sim free and engraved | 02:48 |
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| berndhs | for £500 you could buy a bunch of cheap phones and stash them anywhere you wil go | 02:50 |
| berndhs | then they don't have to be mobile | 02:50 |
| CosmoHill | on the gadget show they bought £500 of stuff to cover all the features of the iphone | 02:50 |
| CosmoHill | anyway, bye bye | 02:52 |
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| nightwalk | My problem with the iphone is, why do I want to pay for an OS that they increasingly cripple release after release? | 02:57 |
| nightwalk | Used to be that you could configure wireless (802.1x) right from the device, but not anymore. It has to be configured from a mac or pc (read: windows), and the process is about as stupid & insecure as it could possibly be | 02:57 |
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| daniel_o | bye bye | 03:31 |
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| genbit | hi all | 10:04 |
| genbit | how I can install make, gcc on meego 1.1? | 10:04 |
| genbit | I tried zypper install make gcc, but meegoo cannot find these packages... | 10:05 |
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| berndhs | can you see anyone from your elevated position ? | 18:19 |
| CosmoHill | I can see you | 18:22 |
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| berndhs | i have this mental image of Client Eastwood and Eli Wallach in the Arizona plains | 18:24 |
| berndhs | Clint even | 18:25 |
| dm8tbr | hehe, nice freudian there. :) | 18:26 |
| CosmoHill | now I'm imagining a market salesman | 18:27 |
| CosmoHill | meercat* | 18:27 |
| berndhs | in Arizona ? | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | there's much be a zoo somwehwere | 18:29 |
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| Crnkoj | hey guys i just got a used n900 and want to put meego on http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/GettingStarted how do i know if it has the pr 1.3 freemantle on? | 18:56 |
| Crnkoj | i mean how or where do i check or do i have to flash it on first ? | 18:56 |
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| CosmoHill | try cat /etc/meego_release | 18:57 |
| Crnkoj | du i have to be root ? | 18:58 |
| Crnkoj | like sudo cat ... | 18:58 |
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| Crnkoj | wait you might have misunderstood me or i might have misunderstood the tutorial. i have maemo 5 on it | 18:59 |
| Crnkoj | it seems that file doesnt exist | 19:00 |
| Crnkoj | does the uname -a info help to determine ? | 19:01 |
| Crnkoj | its nokia-n900-51-1 2.6.28-omap1 | 19:01 |
| slaine | If there's no updates left to apply, then you're on pr1.3 | 19:02 |
| Crnkoj | what version shoudl it be under settings about phone ? | 19:02 |
| Crnkoj | the version for me is 21.2011038-1 | 19:02 |
| hiemanshu | Crnkoj: go to settings and about phone | 19:02 |
| Crnkoj | ye im there | 19:02 |
| CosmoHill | hi slaine | 19:02 |
| hiemanshu | ah, 38-1 is CSSU | 19:03 |
| Crnkoj | hiemanshu what does that mean ? | 19:03 |
| hiemanshu | Crnkoj: did you install CSSU? | 19:03 |
| Crnkoj | do i ahve to downgrade | 19:03 |
| Crnkoj | erm as said just got the phone used from ebay | 19:03 |
| hiemanshu | nope, you dont | 19:03 |
| Crnkoj | there was one security update for maemon telling me to install it so i accepted it | 19:03 |
| hiemanshu | ah, thats PR 1.3.1 then | 19:03 |
| hiemanshu | so yeah, you can just install it Crnkoj, follow the guide | 19:04 |
| Crnkoj | hiemanshu thanks man | 19:04 |
| slaine | hiemanshu: MeeGo is dead though | 19:04 |
| slaine | Sorry, Crnkoj | 19:04 |
| slaine | you should checkout Nemo on the merproject.org site | 19:05 |
| slaine | it's the follow on from the MeeGo CE | 19:05 |
| Crnkoj | hiemanshu may i ask a tad more (i know a bit around linux and stuff) but reading these tutorial do i jsut have to isntall u-boot or a custom kernel aswell, since other wikis tell em to isntall other kernel too | 19:05 |
| Crnkoj | slaine do you have alink to a wiki/how to for it ? | 19:05 |
| slaine | merproject.org | 19:05 |
| hiemanshu | Crnkoj: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-December/000873.html there is the latest image there | 19:06 |
| Crnkoj | is it stable and usable for evreyday use slaine ? | 19:06 |
| slaine | Not yet, but it's more stable than the MeeGo CE releases where | 19:06 |
| Crnkoj | oh | 19:07 |
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| Crnkoj | its my bros phone and he wants me to make him a bootable meego/nemo sdcard so he could use it | 19:07 |
| slaine | They are intended as developer platforms | 19:07 |
| slaine | not a distro update from maemo5 | 19:07 |
| * TSCHAKeee facepalms | 19:07 | |
| TSCHAKeee | ;) | 19:07 |
| Crnkoj | maemo5 is junk slow lol | 19:07 |
| Crnkoj | at least on the n900 :) | 19:08 |
| Crnkoj | anyhow does ril (calls and sms) work on nemo or meego for that matter ? | 19:08 |
| slaine | Well, don't expect anything better or polished in MeeGo/Nemo atm | 19:08 |
| slaine | we're looking for developers to help out | 19:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | somehow this guy doesn't strike me as a developer... | 19:08 |
| Crnkoj | i might if i get mer working on a tegra2 phone :) | 19:09 |
| Crnkoj | hahah | 19:09 |
| Crnkoj | well just gathering info, i havent palyed with maemo/meego/mer yet, but i love the interface thats why i want to jump in | 19:10 |
| slaine | Crnkoj: that's not out of the realms of the possible, vgrade has Tegra2 builds for the Trimslice | 19:10 |
| Crnkoj | ye i talked with him | 19:10 |
| Crnkoj | he helped me out | 19:10 |
| Crnkoj | im waiting for my phone from warranty repairs though (damn digitizer went foobar) | 19:11 |
| slaine | :( | 19:11 |
| Crnkoj | anyhow in teh meantime my bro asked me to try to get mer/meego to work on the n900 | 19:11 |
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| Crnkoj | as i see the nemo images have hardware fp, whilst maemo seems to have soft fp | 19:12 |
| Crnkoj | this shoudl bring some speed improvements | 19:12 |
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| Crnkoj | slaine so my question is it worth to go to nemo/meego ont he n900 if you want to use the phone for calls and sms and maybe occasional internet browsing ? | 19:12 |
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| Crnkoj | because without working calls/sms it wont be of any use to him | 19:13 |
| dm8tbr | basic use cases should work on Nemo | 19:14 |
| Crnkoj | dm8tbr thanks | 19:14 |
| CosmoHill | .o/ | 19:15 |
| Crnkoj | so guys jsut to clarify (and im not being stupid lol) with this method i dont need to change the kernel, i jsut need to isntall u-boot and than write the raw image to the sdcard and voila? thanks | 19:17 |
| dm8tbr | yes | 19:17 |
| Crnkoj | thanks again | 19:17 |
| Crnkoj | btw there are some other confusing tutorials on the wiki than cuz one says you have to the other says no need for custom kernels | 19:18 |
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| Crnkoj | ok what the hell i add a new catalog for extras-devel and it wont show it lol | 19:26 |
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| Crnkoj | whatever lol | 19:28 |
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| daniel_o | good morning | 20:13 |
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| Crnkoj | hey guys i managed to get u-boot to work and boto and dded a card with this nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing-0.20111208.2.NEMO.2011-12-22.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 22.12.2011 13:03 234466864 image and now it boots but gives me an error | 20:18 |
| Crnkoj | ow wait lol | 20:18 |
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| Crnkoj | it seems to work | 20:18 |
| Crnkoj | but as soon as i close the keyboard it turns the display off | 20:18 |
| Crnkoj | wow NICE | 20:19 |
| Crnkoj | works works | 20:19 |
| daniel_o | :) | 20:19 |
| Crnkoj | yet it seems to be rather buggy | 20:20 |
| Crnkoj | (i know its just a dev build) :) | 20:20 |
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| Crnkoj | how do i turn it off though ? | 20:21 |
| Crnkoj | holding the off button doesnt do anything | 20:21 |
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| Crnkoj | hey guys is there like a custom overclocked kernel for the nemo for n900 or maybe just an app to install to oc it ? | 20:29 |
| daniel_o | haven't tried nemo yet, sorry man | 20:29 |
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| Crnkoj | mhm | 20:37 |
| Crnkoj | daniel_o, what did you try (on your n900 i assume), meego ? | 20:37 |
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| daniel_o | hmm no only nitdroid :) | 20:38 |
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| Crnkoj | daniel_o, whats that? got a link ? | 20:40 |
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| daniel_o | android port for n900? | 20:41 |
| daniel_o | http://wiki.maemo.org/Nitdroid_easy_install_on_EMMC | 20:41 |
| Crnkoj | oh thanks | 20:42 |
| Crnkoj | what version is it ? | 20:42 |
| Crnkoj | is there a way to boot it form external sdcard? | 20:42 |
| daniel_o | uff.. i forgot. 2.3.4 gingerbread? i think | 20:43 |
| Crnkoj | nice | 20:43 |
| Crnkoj | does it work well ? and can i install to external ? | 20:43 |
| daniel_o | the dev is working on the ICS version | 20:43 |
| daniel_o | external yeah, but i read it's very slow then.. | 20:43 |
| daniel_o | i created a new partition on the internal | 20:44 |
| daniel_o | phonecalls don't work | 20:44 |
| Crnkoj | oh lol | 20:45 |
| Crnkoj | somehow i would need phone calls :) | 20:45 |
| daniel_o | yeah it's more a proof of concept :D | 20:45 |
| Crnkoj | ah i see | 20:45 |
| Crnkoj | ye ril is a pita with android | 20:45 |
| Crnkoj | lol | 20:45 |
| Crnkoj | i wonder how it is with meego | 20:46 |
| daniel_o | but i liked it, wifi and 3g worked and the store.. so for online stuff it worked well | 20:46 |
| Crnkoj | i might try to get meego/mer/nemo to run on an atrix 4g (tegra2 with android) phone | 20:46 |
| Crnkoj | oh lol | 20:46 |
| daniel_o | even whatsapp worked :D | 20:46 |
| Crnkoj | but wait | 20:47 |
| Crnkoj | if 3g works | 20:47 |
| Crnkoj | shouldnt calls work than aswell ? | 20:47 |
| daniel_o | hmm no there was some bug i don't remember exactly.. something like.. if someone calls u, it rings, but if u pick up u can't hear the other person.. or the other way around.. i don | 20:48 |
| daniel_o | t remember | 20:48 |
| Crnkoj | ah | 20:48 |
| Crnkoj | thanks ill check a bit on that page | 20:49 |
| daniel_o | http://forum.nitdroid.com/ | 20:49 |
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| Crnkoj | guys u have to say nemo interface works really fast ont he n9 but evreything else is pretty slow | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | not really productized | 21:06 |
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| swiftkick | ahoy | 21:21 |
| swiftkick | how far along is the meego project anyway | 21:21 |
| swiftkick | is meego in alpha, beta, public beta, or release state? is there a decent software repo already up and running? | 21:23 |
| swiftkick | i've got an n900 running maemo 5, in short is there enough functionality to justify flashing my device? | 21:23 |
| luke-jr | swiftkick: dead :P | 21:25 |
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| swiftkick | dead? damn | 21:30 |
| swiftkick | haha | 21:30 |
| swiftkick | luke-jr: i was afraid of that... but whats up with maemo6, i thought meego was supposed to replace maemo6 | 21:30 |
| Stskeeps | swiftkick: meego's fairly dead, some went to merproject.org, some went to tizen.org. for n900, wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo is possibly what you want | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | maemo6 is on the nokia n9 | 21:31 |
| swiftkick | so there are no plans to support maemo6 on the n900? what functionality does mameo6 add | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | maemo6 is not coming to n900, officially or unofficially | 21:35 |
| luke-jr | swiftkick: or Gentoo | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | closest you get (which is far) is Nemo | 21:35 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: do you know how to bypass the DRM on N9? :P | 21:35 |
| swiftkick | oh yeah do you know why not, is the n900 hardware platform lacking some functionality , or is it purely an issue of non-support from the vendor | 21:36 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: flash a unsigned kernel | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: warranty void screen shows, so it goes | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | swiftkick: too low ram | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | and non support is an issue too | 21:38 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: do you have an unsigned kernel? :P | 21:38 |
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| luke-jr | Stskeeps: or know someone who does? | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: yes, http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txthttp://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txthttp://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | er | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/Nemo-Mobile-N9-instructions.txt | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | need to use closed source flasher to accomplish it | 21:40 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: I don't have/want a N9, just find someone who does to test stuff :P | 21:41 |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: I want to implement N900 GPS protocol for gpsd, but I need to know if it's N900-specific, Nokia-common, or phonet-common | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | isi protocol, i think | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | but i dunno | 21:42 |
| luke-jr | if I can find someone with an un-DRM'd N9, they can try running my N900 GPS decoder :P | 21:42 |
| CosmoHill | \o. | 21:43 |
| luke-jr | CosmoHill: you got one? :P | 21:44 |
| CosmoHill | I have no idea, I was just saying hi | 21:44 |
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| luke-jr | o :p | 21:44 |
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| daniel_o | hey CosmoHill | 21:47 |
| CosmoHill | hi daniel_o | 21:47 |
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