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| CosmoHill | hey javispedro | 00:19 |
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| CosmoHill | coment ça va? | 00:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | mgedmin: the used space of screen is different for sure | 00:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | on N9 there are only 16 rows unused | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe a few more on lumia | 00:37 |
| mgedmin | ah, interesting | 00:37 |
| mgedmin | I was going by the published specs | 00:37 |
| SpeedEvil | 16 rows would be an interesting statusbar | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | 16 pixel high fonts are prety legible | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | almost enough for simple icons | 00:38 |
| javispedro | CosmoHill: reasonably well :) | 00:39 |
| mgedmin | my source: http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/26/nokia-lumia-800-vs-nokia-n9-the-tale-of-the-tape/ | 00:40 |
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| mgedmin | speaking about those unused 16 rows... does that mean the hardware is 870x480? | 00:41 |
| mgedmin | or that the software only uses 838x480? | 00:41 |
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| DrGrov | Nokia 800? What is this about? | 00:42 |
| special | windows phone. | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | not the nokia n800? | 00:42 |
| mgedmin | no | 00:42 |
| mgedmin | is it officially called "nokia 800"? or "nokia lumia 800"? | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | It is, however, the perfect time to sell your nokia 800. | 00:43 |
| DrGrov | Ah ok, the Windows Phone. Was there a Nokia press conference today or? | 00:43 |
| SpeedEvil | For the confused ebay buyer. | 00:43 |
| mgedmin | nokia world 2011, afaiu | 00:43 |
| mgedmin | half the RAM of a n9, boo | 00:43 |
| DrGrov | Any way to see the action of Nokia World 2011 live somewhere? Or any good blog that has catched the events of the day? | 00:43 |
| mgedmin | dunno... twitter? engadget? | 00:44 |
| DrGrov | Ok, will look into it. Engagdet seems reliable enough for covering the event. | 00:45 |
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| TSCHAKeee | boy howdy that windows phone is looking pale | 00:54 |
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| vgrade | TSCHAKeee, and , has buttons ! | 00:57 |
| vgrade | how very 2010 | 00:57 |
| xranby | the best part was http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/26/white-n9-meego-p1-1-hands-on/ | 00:58 |
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| xranby | nokia did at least mention meego in the looking future section of todays press release | 01:00 |
| xranby | so possibly they will still use meego as a base for future prototype phones | 01:00 |
| TSCHAKeee | the journalists are all glossing over the fact | 01:00 |
| TSCHAKeee | that nokia has committed to providing updates to the phone | 01:00 |
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| TSCHAKeee | until 2015 | 01:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | get the very best, Nokia 810 original package new XP | 01:02 |
| DrGrov | Seriously, a White N9? Oooh, that is cool | 01:02 |
| CosmoHill | ooo white | 01:02 |
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| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: not a problem, I've already seen people abbreviating the new thing as "N800". | 01:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | got no N800 to sell, but hey, I have a N810 - bleeding edge top sekrit new model, you can tell from the number. Only one available (mustn't tell where it's from) | 01:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | even comes with optional hw kbd to slide out, larger screen than ever | 01:07 |
| CosmoHill | DocScrutinizer: tape over the N and put it on ebay | 01:07 |
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| csdb | _auke_, question on systemd-logger. My locally built copy from meego was failing on startup. I narrowed it down to accept4 call, which seems to not be available in glibc-arm (returns ENOSYS) | 01:48 |
| csdb | replacing accept4 with accept+fcntl to do the NONBLOCK+CLOEXEC part seems to make it work | 01:48 |
| csdb | is systemd-logger being used with MeeGo ? | 01:49 |
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| _auke_ | csdb: we're going to drop that patch, yes | 02:12 |
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| csdb | which patch? | 02:12 |
| csdb | switching accept4 to accept+fcntl? | 02:12 |
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| auke | I think we already removed the systemd-logger integration in MeeGo Trunk | 02:24 |
| auke | we're just going to log to dmesg for the time being | 02:25 |
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| csdb | is it being dropped because of this accept4 problem? | 02:29 |
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| auke | csdb: no, just in general the internal logger we wrote for systemd isn't going anywhere (not going to be merged) | 03:10 |
| auke | redoing it as an external object doesnt make much sense since those already exist (rsyslog & friends) | 03:11 |
| auke | so, we'll drop the code for now, if anyone wants to pick up the effort they can (and I'd encourage them). | 03:11 |
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| csdb | auke, I don't follow. src/logger.c in systemd gets build into systemd-logger, and that is part of upstream. I don't see any other logger piece in MeeGo systemd | 03:23 |
| csdb | what isn't going to be merged? | 03:23 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:26 |
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| thirteenth | Hi people, is this channel going to stay separate from the recently announced successor to Meego? Or is it just merging later? | 07:16 |
| thirteenth | Tizen* | 07:17 |
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| thirteenth | And also, how would I go about 'porting' MeeGo to my mobile? Is it entirely crazy to do? I have an HTC Incredible, but I really am intrigued by Meego/Tizen.. | 07:18 |
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| thirteenth | I know it was ported to the HTC HD2, Nexus one and something else | 07:19 |
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| mcfrisk_ | what is the correct meego repo key to 'rpm --import' for 1.2.0? Am getting only "warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/oss/armv7hl/busybox-1.17.3-1.5.armv7hl.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 44e4155a: NOKEY" | 10:12 |
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| mcfrisk_ | oh well, worked around that zypper error by doing "rpm -i busbybox.." manually. Something is really wrong with the keys and zypper... | 10:21 |
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| Jed | So I just saw this log about the recent meeting http://irclogs.meego.com/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-10-18-11.03.log.html | 13:23 |
| Jed | I dont get it, so we're renaming MER to NEMO? in the thread at the meego forum, one of the leaders (I assume) was saying they were in the midst of asking the LF to adopt MeeGo? | 13:24 |
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| iekku | Jed, nemo and mer are totally different things | 13:27 |
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| Jed | So.... NEMO is what MeeGoCE was? A ux layer like Cordia & KDE Plasma? MER still remains, why didnt they opt to just stay with MeeGo/CE? | 13:31 |
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| iekku | Jed, yes, nemo is meegoce. and to get answers, i think the #meego-arm would be good place, there might be stg members | 13:32 |
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| Kangaooo | Hello. i got asus x101 witch is peloaded with meego. ive tryd meego 1y ago also. and im using ubuntu on other comps. i have some prblems with meego i cant find answer googling | 13:45 |
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| Kangaooo | on 1st day i got 5 updates with some GUI update automatic manager so it means all is updated. wrong. i later found out chromium offline gmail app isnt woking so i see chromium vesion it 11 | 13:47 |
| Kangaooo | i found about updating using sudo zypper refresh and sudo zypper update and i got info it wont update about 10-15 programms listing theyr names and it included chromium but other updates will updte about 240mb. | 13:49 |
| Kangaooo | so then i try zypper install chromium and it says 'chromium' is already installed. There is an update candidate for 'chromium', but it is from different vendor. Use 'zypper install chromium-13.0.752.0-9.1.i586' to install this candidate. | 13:49 |
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| Kangaooo | i do that but i get http://pastebin.com/SdzL3cWQ and warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/updates-core/chromium-13.0.752.0-9.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 79fc1f8a: NOKEY | 13:52 |
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| Kangaooo | and now i open chromium and its not vesin 13 | 13:52 |
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| Kangaooo | its still same 11 version. how to do then updates? maybe using yum then? | 13:53 |
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| Kangaooo | anyone alive? how to get irc in ch IM? | 13:59 |
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| herdingcat | Does MeeGo use some parts of Fedora? | 19:25 |
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| wmarone_ | what do you mean by "parts" | 19:26 |
| wmarone_ | they undoubtedly share some software and libraries | 19:26 |
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| herdingcat | wmarone_, I got a Acer netbook and it installed Linpus Lite MeeGo, I noticed that it's much alike Fedora. | 19:28 |
| wmarone_ | meego follows the Linux Standard Base, which derives a lot from Redhat | 19:29 |
| herdingcat | wmarone_, most Fedora packages can be installed in MeeGo? | 19:30 |
| wmarone_ | I wouldn't go that far | 19:30 |
| herdingcat | wmarone_, I installed LibreOffice and FileZilla, seems good. | 19:31 |
| wmarone_ | from the .rpms? | 19:31 |
| herdingcat | wmarone_, yes | 19:31 |
| wmarone_ | ah, good | 19:32 |
| wmarone_ | but I wouldn't expect that success for all pacakges | 19:32 |
| wmarone_ | packages* | 19:32 |
| jabis | I guess you could install many bits and pieces from red hat, fedora and as long as the dependencies are met | 19:32 |
| jabis | *and different distros | 19:32 |
| herdingcat | wmarone_, okay, thanks mate | 19:33 |
| jabis | same as you can use packages from debian derived distros with ubuntu and so on | 19:33 |
| jabis | there _can_ be differences that cause unwanted behaviour | 19:34 |
| wmarone_ | jabis: carefully though, moreso with meego as it isn't Fedora/Redhat derived, but "distantly related" | 19:34 |
| herdingcat | jabis, which Fedora version should be proper for MeeGo 1.0? | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | you have to be shitting me .. http://www.arm.com/about/newsroom/arm-discloses-technical-details-of-the-next-version-of-the-arm-architecture.php (ARMv8) | 19:35 |
| jabis | wmarone_: yeh - but usually the troubles start exactly when you even try to install a package that's not suitable :) | 19:36 |
| jabis | herdingcat: I wouldn't count on any | 19:36 |
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| herdingcat | jabis, okay, got it. | 19:36 |
| jabis | herdingcat: ^ wmarone's comment is a good one :) | 19:37 |
| herdingcat | jabis, hehe, yes | 19:38 |
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| wmarone_ | whoa, ARM finally going 64-bit | 19:41 |
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| berndhs | not entirely surprising, is it | 19:42 |
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| * SpeedEvil finds it barking mad that we'll soon 'need' that for phones, as their RAM will exceed it. | 19:46 | |
| SpeedEvil | apt-get install emm386.sys | 19:46 |
| berndhs | and it will all be used to make things shinier, not add functionality | 19:47 |
| vadimq | well, N9 has 1GB, no? That's pretty close to the limit already | 19:47 |
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| berndhs | and for something completely different, there will be scheduled downtime for some meego.com sites http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-October/484364.html | 19:49 |
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| rafael2k | people, what is the status of the meego CE on the N950? is it funcional? | 20:29 |
| rafael2k | (trying to run from aegis) | 20:30 |
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| auke | csdb: yes, channel closed shop and we all went into #meego-bar ;) | 20:40 |
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| csdb | auke, haven't been to #meego-bar in a while. Maybe I'll drop by for a midmorning pint | 20:41 |
| auke | csdb: I owe you an explanation on the systemd logger stuff, will come back to that later | 20:41 |
| csdb | ok | 20:42 |
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| Stskeeps | csdb: #meego-dev was closed down ages ago due to inactivity/confusing people | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | csdb: way before actual development stopped ;) | 21:57 |
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| berndhs | if only they had kept #meego-dev... | 21:58 |
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| csdb | Stskeeps, I had it in my irc auto-join list and only this week I noticed the "banned" message | 22:02 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah :P | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | me too | 22:03 |
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| gandhijee_ | hey, is there any support in meego for the 12.1" touchscreen from eGalax? | 22:38 |
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| jedix | Is there an automounter for ivi? | 22:56 |
| Stskeeps | wouldn't udisks be a candidate? | 22:57 |
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| jedix | udisks or udiskie? | 22:57 |
| Stskeeps | err, dunno | 22:58 |
| mwichmann | there's a pun lurking somewhere in there since ivi is largely for "autos" (yes I know there are other typed of vehicles)... but too tired to get it right | 22:58 |
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| * dm8tbr invokes rule 34 on mwichmann's comment with the extension: transformers | 23:01 | |
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| dm8tbr | http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-04-21/1240279192934.jpg close enough ;) (mildly nsfw) | 23:03 |
| jedix | autobots? | 23:06 |
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