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sumanah | DawnFoster: hey, got a moment to talk about metrics stuff? | 00:50 |
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sumanah | dneary_: ^ | 00:50 |
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DawnFoster | sumanah: today is a little crazy (I fly to europe tomorrow for the rest of the month) | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | DawnFoster: oooo | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | hi btw | 01:06 |
CosmoHill | sumanah: what kinda metric stuff? | 01:06 |
sumanah | I see -- DawnFoster, we at Wikimedia want to try replicating your setup but the current version of Pentaho that's out is a version higher than what your docs recommend | 01:06 |
sumanah | maplebed in #wikimedia-dev is working on it in case you have a word of wisdom for him | 01:07 |
DawnFoster | sumanah: but you should ping dneary_ tomorrow - it's too late for him in France. He's the pentaho expert :) | 01:07 |
DawnFoster | hey CosmoHill | 01:07 |
vgrade | DawnFoster, hi | 01:07 |
CosmoHill | DawnFoster: http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cc/office.jpg :D | 01:07 |
sumanah | DawnFoster: today's a sprint-on-longterm-things day so I was hoping maplebed could knock out a first rough step today, but I shall pass that along | 01:07 |
DawnFoster | hey vgrade! | 01:08 |
CosmoHill | salut vgrade | 01:08 |
vgrade | DawnFoster, looking forward to the Tizen architecture talks | 01:08 |
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vgrade | CosmoHill, Hi | 01:08 |
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Nirol | meh i need an upgrade | 01:26 |
Nirol | im on a shitty notebook | 01:27 |
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Nirol | Alienware here i come baby | 01:27 |
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CosmoHill | Nirol: hehe | 01:29 |
CosmoHill | kinda like replacing a 1.0 nissan micra with a 2.5 suburu turbo | 01:29 |
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Nirol | CosmoHill Alienware is overated | 01:32 |
vgrade | I'm in the market for a new laptop, whats the deal with preloaded windows now. Can you get a refund of the windows tax? | 01:32 |
CosmoHill | okay, something big an american then | 01:32 |
CosmoHill | and* | 01:32 |
Nirol | lol | 01:32 |
mingwandroid | vgrade: not sure tbh. | 01:32 |
CosmoHill | vgrade: I'd phone and ask them | 01:32 |
Nirol | i want a cpu link with five alienware auroras | 01:32 |
vgrade | I asked in Comet :) | 01:33 |
mingwandroid | get a macbook pro. | 01:33 |
mingwandroid | pay apple tax instead. | 01:33 |
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mingwandroid | ;-) | 01:33 |
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vgrade | good idea | 01:33 |
Nirol | boo im in the middle of boycotting apple with my iphone software :P | 01:33 |
* lbt would rather *use* windows | 01:33 | |
mingwandroid | but in all seriousness, they do make a very good laptop. | 01:33 |
lbt | the south americans make superb cocaine too :) | 01:34 |
Nirol | i want a chevy | 01:34 |
Nirol | or camero | 01:34 |
* CosmoHill has been wondering a 13" macbook pro | 01:34 | |
CosmoHill | but I like 15" | 01:34 |
Nirol | i want a system, that does 1 terraflop | 01:34 |
mingwandroid | 17" for me, I'm greedy. | 01:34 |
Nirol | per sec | 01:35 |
CosmoHill | 13" is to small and 17" is to big | 01:35 |
CosmoHill | 15" fits into my bag | 01:35 |
Nirol | only one though two might be pushing it | 01:35 |
mingwandroid | meh, buy a bigger bag | 01:35 |
CosmoHill | atm I have a 15" powerbook and a 15" philips laptop | 01:35 |
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Nirol | CosmoHill any screens of l33t UI? | 01:36 |
vgrade | I'm looking at HP i5 /15" / 4GB / 500GB HD. | 01:36 |
CosmoHill | ? | 01:37 |
mingwandroid | dell outlet is good for bargains. | 01:37 |
Nirol | microdirect is better than dell | 01:37 |
Nirol | its the radioshack of britian | 01:38 |
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Nirol | http://www.microdirect.co.uk | 01:40 |
lbt | gone bankrupt | 01:41 |
CosmoHill | the trick is to have kids | 01:41 |
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CosmoHill | cos they get student discount | 01:41 |
lbt | http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2083204/micro-direct-rescued-administration | 01:41 |
Nirol | phew if that goes then england doesnt have any computers anymore | 01:42 |
Nirol | :( | 01:43 |
* lbt wants a touch screen laptop anyway | 01:43 | |
Nirol | lol | 01:43 |
CosmoHill | lbt: modbook | 01:43 |
CosmoHill | lbt: http://axiotron.com/index.php?id=modbook | 01:44 |
Nirol | the convo in the other room is boring | 01:44 |
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Nirol | btw: im a troll | 01:45 |
Nirol | Gnaaaaawaaaawrawr | 01:45 |
Nirol | just been told so ^^ | 01:45 |
Nirol | Im either stupid or very very clever | 01:45 |
CosmoHill | I got called a troll too, a complete idiot who knows nothing about linux | 01:45 |
CosmoHill | despite being in this channel since it started and a developer | 01:45 |
Nirol | indeed | 01:45 |
lbt | CosmoHill: nah ... I seriously won't touch Apple | 01:46 |
Nirol | oh | 01:46 |
Nirol | same lbt | 01:46 |
Nirol | i hate da fool | 01:46 |
Nirol | EOF [end rant] | 01:46 |
CosmoHill | i can't say that cos i'm on a mac | 01:46 |
CosmoHill | sure it's 6 years old and tapped | 01:46 |
Nirol | CosmoHill ever tapped a tree? | 01:47 |
Nirol | it brings you back to your primal years | 01:47 |
CosmoHill | taped* | 01:47 |
Nirol | tapped* | 01:47 |
CosmoHill | whatever it is that is holding the screen on | 01:47 |
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Nirol | bored | 01:48 |
Nirol | wheres everyone from | 01:48 |
Nirol | USA USA USA!! | 01:48 |
Nirol | i wish | 01:48 |
CosmoHill | I think I might see why people think you're a troll | 01:48 |
Nirol | oh | 01:48 |
Nirol | no fun | 01:48 |
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* Nirol Announces :The impression of self-control elitism leads people to admire their peers, emulate and liberate away from the troll: | 01:52 | |
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Nirol | Nathan your a fellow british citizen | 01:53 |
Nirol | wooooooooooow | 01:54 |
CosmoHill | I swear my client is meant to tell me when people whois me | 01:54 |
Nirol | yeah | 01:54 |
Nirol | soz :P | 01:54 |
Nirol | laters | 01:54 |
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berndhs | soon you will be alone, and can swear all you want | 02:22 |
CosmoHill | I don't like being alone | 02:22 |
CosmoHill | there's a 17 year old in the channel not having a happy time so I look the other way most of the time | 02:23 |
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mingwandroid | Anyone help with COBS? | 02:28 |
mingwandroid | I've got a package to build ok, but I can't find a baseurl for it. | 02:29 |
CosmoHill | mingwandroid: http://repo.pub.meego.com/ | 02:29 |
mingwandroid | yeah, I expected to find home:/raydonnelly but didn't | 02:30 |
DawnFoster | swearing? | 02:31 |
DawnFoster | (yes, I'm still here) | 02:31 |
CosmoHill | mingwandroid: give it a few mins | 02:31 |
CosmoHill | DawnFoster: yeah I run #lfs-support | 02:31 |
CosmoHill | I introduced a no swearing rule when most of the regulars where under 12 ~ 16 | 02:32 |
DawnFoster | I think it's a good rule in general | 02:32 |
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CosmoHill | if you say the C word you get kicked instantly | 02:33 |
CosmoHill | introduced a no bashing rule, kinda required since one of the ops works for MS | 02:34 |
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mingwandroid | thing is, I had it building earlier today, but not folder's appeared. | 02:37 |
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vgrade | it wont populate the repo until all packages are built ok | 02:38 |
vgrade | I think | 02:38 |
vgrade | so your failing plymouth-lite may be holding things up | 02:38 |
mingwandroid | ah can I disable it? | 02:40 |
mingwandroid | exclude from all? | 02:40 |
mingwandroid | ok all fine. | 02:41 |
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mingwandroid | http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com/blog/artem/how-make-your-qml-applications-scale-and-look-nice-symbian-meegoharmattan-and-android | 02:44 |
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mingwandroid | package still not showing.. bugger. | 02:47 |
vgrade | give it time, there have been some issues in the pask with things not gettting published | 02:50 |
vgrade | if you don't have it in the morning ping lbt | 02:50 |
vgrade | night, I'm leaving my qt build going | 02:54 |
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mingwandroid | I'm off too. night. | 02:55 |
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Umeaboy | Hi! | 03:56 |
Umeaboy | I 'd love it if someone would have a dummie-guide for installing MeeGo on an SD-card. | 03:57 |
Umeaboy | Haven't found one yet. | 03:57 |
Umeaboy | I want to try it on my Samsung Galaxy S2. | 03:57 |
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pun | i need to use qt-gstreamer with my qml application HW accelerated codecs from Intel , am facing problem in embeding videoSurface coming out from MixVideoSink | 06:40 |
pun | anyone can help me on how to link this surface with which Qml component ? | 06:41 |
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Sand|R | the new nokia ring tone | 08:08 |
Sand|R | is horrific | 08:08 |
Stskeeps | good thig this isn't #nokia then ;) | 08:10 |
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Sand|R | it's coming to a meego phone near you | 08:12 |
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Stskeeps | nah, N9 is in sales already :P | 08:12 |
Sand|R | http://nokiatune.audiodraft.com | 08:13 |
Sand|R | the great marvelous got the most votes lol | 08:15 |
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Alison_Chaiken | Job opening at my new startup: http://openmobileww.com/careers.php#android | 08:34 |
Alison_Chaiken | I'm more or less employee 20, be employee 21! Job title says "Android developer," but what they mean is Linux-Android systems programmer if you read the description. | 08:34 |
Alison_Chaiken | Bossman says Tizen is in our near future. | 08:35 |
Stskeeps | what is an EEO? | 08:35 |
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Alison_Chaiken | I'm the only Sili Valley employee, but we already have folks in Shenzen, Ahmedabad, Massachusetts and Finland. | 08:35 |
Alison_Chaiken | EEO is "Equal Employment Opportunity" or something like that. It means that they comply with U.S. law that specifies that you need not have a long white beard in order to qualify. | 08:36 |
Stskeeps | ah | 08:36 |
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Stskeeps | i should really find a way to get a job in sili valley.. | 08:39 |
Alison_Chaiken | Shouldn't be hard, Stskeeps: the market for Linux people here is aboil. People who know networking stack stuff are getting multiple offers. | 08:41 |
mihero | atleast it's not so cold and rainy there:) | 08:41 |
Alison_Chaiken | BSD and Qt also hiring strongly. | 08:41 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:41 |
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Alison_Chaiken | mihero, it did rain a bit the last two days, but it was over 20C. | 08:41 |
mihero | yep, i saw the news about the rain"storm":) | 08:42 |
mihero | i think it now has been raining here every day since i came back from my visit to SF:) | 08:43 |
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* lbt wonders if MeeGo Core OBS has a DNR? | 11:26 | |
X-Fade | I only hope they have set the checkbox "Parts donor" [y] ;) | 11:26 |
Stskeeps | in other news, i have uncracked the secret to OBS binary cpio passing | 11:27 |
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lbt | anaZ: main OBS is down again - anything you can do | 11:36 |
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mcfrisk_ | So build.meego.com is down, any idea how long? | 13:32 |
* Stskeeps rolls dice | 13:33 | |
Stskeeps | the dice says 6 hours | 13:33 |
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mcfrisk_ | heh | 13:33 |
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Stskeeps | in somewhat related technical news, i've just successfully made it possible to build against a binaries snapshot utilizing remote obs links | 13:34 |
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mcfrisk_ | Stskeeps: I'm interested in details | 13:34 |
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Stskeeps | right, sec | 13:35 |
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mcfrisk_ | public obs is up, is there some project with most of Trunk? | 13:35 |
Stskeeps | do you need sources or binaries? | 13:36 |
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mcfrisk_ | .spec files :) | 13:37 |
lbt | mcfrisk_: it's back | 13:37 |
lbt | just | 13:37 |
Stskeeps | mcfrisk_: ah.. so you actually rely on linked sources | 13:37 |
Stskeeps | mcfrisk_: nasty :) | 13:37 |
mcfrisk_ | lbt, thanks | 13:37 |
lbt | mcfrisk_: you may want to reply from your Teleca address to the mail in -dev ... keeping Imad in the cc | 13:38 |
Stskeeps | mcfrisk_: trying to solve that problem with the mer fakeobs work .. so far working | 13:39 |
Stskeeps | mcfrisk_: http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/ , http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/mappings.xml , http://pastie.org/2682184 etc | 13:40 |
mcfrisk_ | huh, that project config is interesting | 13:42 |
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Stskeeps | http://monster.tspre.org/~merreleases/packages-git/mer-core/ makes it more interesting ;) | 13:42 |
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Stskeeps | (yes, that's all packages in git) | 13:44 |
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mcfrisk_ | as source, ok | 13:44 |
Stskeeps | sortof | 13:44 |
Stskeeps | sec | 13:44 |
mcfrisk_ | starts to feel like netbsd next, make world... | 13:45 |
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lbt | mcfrisk_: the way to start thinking about it is a snapshot of the OBS REST API that can be shared over rsync | 13:45 |
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Stskeeps | mcfrisk_: http://pastie.org/2682219 is a checkout of one of the packages in /mer-core/ | 13:50 |
mcfrisk_ | ok | 13:50 |
veskuh | Stskeeps: Any idea who maintains meego wiki ? | 13:51 |
Stskeeps | veskuh: dawn, i think | 13:51 |
veskuh | Stskeeps: file upload not working at the moment, and I'd like upload moslo :) | 13:52 |
w00t | moslo \o/ | 13:52 |
w00t | veskuh: i'm going to fly to finland and give you a hug | 13:52 |
veskuh | :) | 13:52 |
w00t | (the first part of that may not be a joke, my SO is trying to convince me to go there for a mini-holiday in november .. ) | 13:53 |
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Stskeeps | veskuh: ah, i can set up some space if needed | 13:54 |
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Stskeeps | veskuh: perhaps we can put it on repository.maemo.org n900de? | 13:55 |
veskuh | Stskeeps: I think we can do that. | 13:56 |
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lbt | veskuh: MeeGo IT can put that somewhere sane | 14:06 |
lbt | and X-Fade has maemo.org too | 14:06 |
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veskuh | lbt: You have access? It's only 14MB. I can mail or put it out temoporarily for you. | 14:12 |
lbt | yes | 14:12 |
lbt | not email :) | 14:12 |
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veskuh | Ok, I'll send you link soon | 14:12 |
lbt | what's the redistribution license? | 14:12 |
lbt | ie are we OK on meego.com or should it be maemo? | 14:13 |
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lbt | Stskeeps probably knows/cares more | 14:13 |
veskuh | lbt: good point, I'll need to check. | 14:15 |
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poohman | hello, im running meego 1.3 in N900, and am having problems with the virtual keyboard symbols like pipes and angled brackets, can anyone help me out | 14:45 |
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andre__ | what are the problems? | 14:45 |
poohman | when using the meego terminal, i am not able to type the symbols, the vkb doesnt change with meta+sym | 14:46 |
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poohman | a bug was reported for xterm in august sometime and the solution was to use the meego terminal as it played well with vkb, but i could not get it to print the symbols | 14:49 |
poohman | i read that in bugzilla | 14:50 |
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Nimesh_Accenture | hi room | 15:27 |
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CosmoHill | http://cross-lfs.org/~cosmo/cc/spec2.txt :) | 19:38 |
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ulf^ | Stskeeps? | 19:47 |
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Stskeeps | ulf^: mm? | 19:56 |
Stskeeps | ulf^: sup? | 19:56 |
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ulf^ | Stskeeps, I wanted to ask if you filed a bug identifying the maxchild 20 waitpid issue with OBS | 19:57 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, I found your comment on a bug assigned to Anas though | 19:57 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, all is good ;) | 19:57 |
Stskeeps | ulf^: ideally we can move away from obs links in future, i pretty much now have software that can snapshot continously a obs project, allow it to be rsynced and on vendor side utilized as if it was a remote obs | 20:00 |
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ulf^ | Stskeeps, nice | 20:01 |
Stskeeps | ulf^: hopefully when we have it stablized and working in Mer, we can prpose it to tizen | 20:01 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, I just wanted to point out that the OBS falling down issue matters as we cannot let this happen again for Tizen, so it will get fixed. | 20:01 |
Stskeeps | ulf^: agreed, and i would actually suggest to drop them totally and replace with this | 20:02 |
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Stskeeps | much more bw efficient | 20:02 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, for sure | 20:03 |
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Stskeeps | lbt: we should prolly make testcases for this issue | 20:04 |
lbt | I was hoping to diagnose it properly - hence the email to Ryan etc... | 20:05 |
lbt | just recovering from the kick to the head | 20:05 |
lbt | maybe ulf^ can keep us up informed and we can reproduce it on the c.obs | 20:05 |
Stskeeps | fairly sure we can reproduce it | 20:06 |
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Stskeeps | a couple of well crafted lastevents calls.. | 20:06 |
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Stskeeps | that one sounded really nasty | 20:08 |
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lbt | obs backend doesn't escape ^[ on the way in to the DB and rejects it on the way out | 20:09 |
lbt | should be a 1-5-liner | 20:10 |
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lbt | just digging around specs to determine the "correct" solution | 20:10 |
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jedix | What do I need ot change by hand to get the hostname to be changed across reboots? | 20:12 |
lbt | /etc/hostname ? | 20:13 |
lbt | nah.... too easy .... I'll wait for the real answer | 20:14 |
CosmoHill | jedix: check the logs, someone else asked that this . last week | 20:14 |
berndhs | maybe /etc/sysconfig/network ? | 20:14 |
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IanWizard-Cloud | Hey everybody!! | 20:16 |
IanWizard-Cloud | Where's the party? | 20:16 |
lbt | if it's like SuSE then /etc/HOSTNAME | 20:16 |
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IanWizard-Cloud | lol, Unrelated, but funny. | 20:20 |
thiago | IanWizard-Cloud: of course it's unrelated, lbt was answering jedix's question. | 20:20 |
CosmoHill | i think you'll need to change /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/hosts, then reboot | 20:21 |
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IanWizard-Cloud | thiago: I know, that's what I was saying. It's unrelated to what I was saying, but taken in that context, it can be slightly funny. | 20:22 |
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alterego | lbt: next tsg :/ | 21:32 |
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berndhs | ask the pope for a ruling, you'll get it sooner than from tsg | 21:34 |
lbt | alterego: I have every faith the MeeGo community has a proper and open governance model :) | 21:34 |
lbt | We have been told this by people with integrity! | 21:35 |
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Ronksu | evening | 22:12 |
CosmoHill | .o/ | 22:13 |
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jedix | CosmoHill: thanks | 22:36 |
jedix | lbt: thansk! | 22:36 |
CosmoHill | jedix: was that the one? | 22:36 |
lbt | ? | 22:36 |
jedix | dunno yet, but I'll check the logs if it's not | 22:36 |
lbt | oh which was it? | 22:36 |
jedix | lbt: hostname stuff from a while ago | 22:37 |
jedix | I'll report back | 22:37 |
lbt | OK | 22:37 |
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Stskeeps | ulf^: thing i've confirmed the issue, i just managed to crash my own obs | 23:06 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, nice! | 23:06 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, can you comment on the bug with this info? | 23:07 |
Stskeeps | yes, moment, have to get my own obs up agan ;) | 23:07 |
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ulf^ | Stskeeps, good job reproducing it! ;) | 23:08 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, also: maybe you can ping Adrian on the opensuse-buildservice channel? | 23:09 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, or better, file a bug upstream for this | 23:09 |
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Stskeeps | i'll put a testcase in the bug report right now so you can verify it, i have to catch some sleep soon but it's really trivial to test.. | 23:10 |
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Stskeeps | ulf^: added testcases, it's fairly simply | 23:18 |
Stskeeps | e | 23:18 |
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ulf^ | Stskeeps, let me guess, a seq 1 20 for loop with lynx? ;) | 23:19 |
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Stskeeps | ulf^: i think we need it a little higher in order to make the accept queue overflow | 23:20 |
Stskeeps | but something along those lines | 23:20 |
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Stskeeps | my proposed fix is instead of blocking when that happens, to instead report 503, other OBS'es will try again in 60 seconds in that case | 23:22 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, yes, absolutely | 23:22 |
ulf^ | Stskeeps, seems the right way to do it | 23:22 |
Stskeeps | anyway, sleep time - let me know in the bug if that seems to be the case | 23:22 |
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Stskeeps | adrianS seems to be pinged out so | 23:23 |
ulf^ | ok, good night | 23:23 |
ulf^ | I'm not actively working on this. I just relayed your findings to management because OBS stability issues were discussed | 23:23 |
jedix | okay, side tracks of bug updates done | 23:24 |
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Stskeeps | yep, anyone's good, just so i know it was fixing the issue, i need to patch my own OBS too ;) | 23:24 |
Stskeeps | i don't think build.opensuse.org ever encountered such a problem | 23:24 |
jedix | which one is the private build one? | 23:25 |
jedix | build.meego? | 23:25 |
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jedix | CosmoHill, lbt: I've updated /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname and /etc/sysconfig/network.. still not setting a hostname | 23:28 |
jedix | gonna have to check the logs. | 23:29 |
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CosmoHill | jedix: did you reboot? | 23:29 |
jedix | yeah | 23:29 |
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jedix | 2011-10-12 (Wednesday) | 23:30 |
jedix | hehe | 23:30 |
jedix | no not that log.. | 23:30 |
CosmoHill | btw, do any of you guys know how to solve an overheating northbridge | 23:33 |
CosmoHill | one computer is 80C and another is 106C for the north briddge :/ | 23:33 |
jedix | sysctl kernel.hostname=NEW_HOSTNAME | 23:33 |
jedix | doens't work either | 23:33 |
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berndhs | jedix: i do this refularly when making a new meego machine, I change /etc/sysconfig/network to contain "HOSTNAME=myname.mydomain" | 23:36 |
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berndhs | s/refu/regu/ | 23:36 |
infobot | berndhs meant: jedix: i do this regularly when making a new meego machine, I change /etc/sysconfig/network to contain "HOSTNAME=myname.mydomain" | 23:36 |
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jedix | I did that.. | 23:37 |
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berndhs | are you setting the host name from dhcp of something like that ? | 23:38 |
jedix | no | 23:38 |
jedix | it's static ip | 23:38 |
jedix | What sets the hostname? maybe it's connman? | 23:39 |
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berndhs | I thought is was statically set by the installation, they're assuming you will only ever have 1 meego-netbook, 1 meego-tablet, etc | 23:39 |
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jedix | I give up., | 23:47 |
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lbt | jedix: try systemd | 23:47 |
jedix | I tried /etc/hosts /etc/hostname /etc/sysconfig/network /etc/sysctl.conf | 23:47 |
jedix | I blame systemd | 23:47 |
jedix | what should I try about it? | 23:47 |
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jedix | I can't find the hostname in there | 23:47 |
lbt | grep the source looking for hostname.... you didn't expect docs did you? | 23:48 |
jedix | no I did not | 23:48 |
jedix | and it didn't return anything | 23:48 |
jedix | I tried host -ri | 23:48 |
lbt | ah well | 23:48 |
Tazpa | CosmoHill: I had one hot unstable bridge chip years back, I clued a heat sink on it (it didn't have one) and it worked like charm afterwards | 23:48 |
jedix | indeed | 23:48 |
jedix | operation give up. | 23:48 |
jedix | rc.sysinit ? | 23:51 |
CosmoHill | Tazpa: thanks, I've been thinking that the northbridges need to have their heatsinks removed, cleaned and put back on | 23:53 |
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CosmoHill | cos the northbridge massively overheats the system fan goes nuts | 23:53 |
jedix | nope, that's not it either. | 23:54 |
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