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| CosmoHill | hey javispedro, fancy a game of openttd at some point? | 00:26 |
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| javispedro | CosmoHill: ah, you always find the worstest moment =) | 00:28 |
| CosmoHill | javispedro: only if I picked now | 00:28 |
| CosmoHill | atm I'm struggling to watch iplayer so I doubt I could host a game | 00:29 |
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| CosmoHill | javispedro: not wednesday night for me, other than that my day job of being employed leaves me with a lot of free time | 00:35 |
| CosmoHill | s/employed/unemployed/ | 00:35 |
| infobot | CosmoHill meant: javispedro: not wednesday night for me, other than that my day job of being unemployed leaves me with a lot of free time | 00:35 |
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| digitalsky | CosmoHill: you seem to be having lots of problems with rpm? | 00:41 |
| CosmoHill | yes | 00:41 |
| digitalsky | what sort of issues? | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | it won't compile | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | trying to compile rpm5 5.3.x and 5.4.x fails | 00:42 |
| digitalsky | oh so u'r not dealing with spec files | 00:42 |
| digitalsky | u'r compiling rpm itself | 00:42 |
| CosmoHill | not gotten that far :( | 00:42 |
| digitalsky | i'm pretty frustrated with rpm, but for the reason that not a lot of documentation | 00:43 |
| digitalsky | exists for a lot of the macros | 00:43 |
| CosmoHill | I had a problem where rpm was failing cos sh linked to zsh which causes zsh to run in sh emulation mode | 00:44 |
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| digitalsky | wish i could help | 00:45 |
| CosmoHill | no worries | 00:46 |
| CosmoHill | rpm5 is being a hard coded prick and rpm4 is DIFFERENT from rpm5 and requires different stuff | 00:46 |
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| digitalsky | that sucks... | 00:48 |
| digitalsky | no changelog to indicate the different requirements? | 00:48 |
| CosmoHill | might confuse the 6 people that have heard of my distro where the new version uses rpm4 and the old version uses rpm5 | 00:49 |
| CosmoHill | rpm5 annoyed me that is went "these packages are optional" and then shouted at me cos they weren't | 00:49 |
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| CosmoHill | good lord cmake takes a long time | 01:27 |
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| nasa01 | Does anyone know what "400 remote error: unexpected EOF" means, coming from OBS? | 02:00 |
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| digitalsky | what were u doing when u got that error? | 02:43 |
| CosmoHill | nasa01: it means something stopped before it should have | 02:43 |
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| nasa01 | digitalsky, & CosmoHill; I was trying to rebuild a package. | 03:32 |
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| nasa01 | OBS just isn't that reliable... | 03:35 |
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| digitalsky | did you run osc build or something? | 03:40 |
| digitalsky | or osc commit? | 03:40 |
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| nasa01 | digitalsky, it was all done via the web interface. And sorry, wife keeps calling me away... Hopefully OBS will work better tomorrow as I am heading off to bed now. | 04:17 |
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| npm | oops | 07:53 |
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| mbn_18 | Hi, I wish to buy a good strong table that MeeGo can run on. Where can I see list of supported devices? | 10:28 |
| mbn_18 | *tablet | 10:28 |
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| RzR | http://twitter.com/search?q=%23NokiaN9MY | 11:25 |
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| slaine | Wonder if this is running meego, http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/13/volvo-unveils-concept-you-luxury-sedan-dripping-with-touchscree/ | 11:25 |
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| tomhut | Hey | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 14:14 |
| tomhut | How is everyone? | 14:14 |
| slaine | quiet | 14:16 |
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| Stskeeps | silence before the storm, hopefully | 14:17 |
| tomhut | Haha | 14:17 |
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| arfoll | waiting eagerly for us to wake up... | 14:17 |
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| tomhut | Just booking my flights to the hackathon in vienna | 14:18 |
| Venemo_N950 | morning | 14:18 |
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| niala | hello :) | 14:40 |
| bedahr | Hi everybody! I'm developing an application for the N950 and have run into a weird performance problem: The application uses around 17 % cpu time when it's active but around 35% as soon as i disable the display | 14:40 |
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| arfoll | hi, i recommend you ask on #harmattan | 14:41 |
| bedahr | this is absolutely, reliably reproducable. Is this a bug in my application (which keeps re-drawing - at least in the overview of all applications), or does the CPU just clock down as soon as I shut down the display...? | 14:41 |
| bedahr | arfoll: ok, thanks | 14:41 |
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| CosmoHill | salut lcuk | 14:56 |
| CosmoHill | occasionally I'll read your name as "luke" | 14:56 |
| lcuk | \o CosmoHill | 14:57 |
| lcuk | my sons name is luke :) | 14:57 |
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| lcuk | lbt ping | 14:58 |
| CosmoHill | my sons name is....give me 9 months...and a women | 14:59 |
| CosmoHill | woman* | 14:59 |
| CosmoHill | you know, either works | 14:59 |
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| niala | lcuk, luke, like the jedi :) | 15:03 |
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| lcuk | niala, :D | 15:05 |
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| niala | lcuk, show them the good way, not the windows/apple/ellops way ;p | 15:07 |
| CosmoHill | iphone apps are a pain cos you need to use Xcode which only works on Mac and even then you need to pay to get your software listed on the store | 15:08 |
| niala | CosmoHill, and if you install a OsX on your computer like an other Os | 15:09 |
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| sivang | it is because of the heat. | 17:01 |
| sivang | at least here. | 17:01 |
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| spenap | hey, I was wondering if you could update the status for bug 21283 | 17:43 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21283 nor, Undecided, ---, henri.bergius, NEW, Request aggregation of blog feed to the planet | 17:43 |
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| qgil | morning! Anybody following IDF today? | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | indeed, but nothing started so far | 17:46 |
| qgil | well, it's 7:46am in San Francisco... | 17:46 |
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| * Stskeeps prepares his first pre-pre-alpha release of next generation Mer, just in case any bad news does arrive | 17:52 | |
| berndhs | time to remind Stskeeps that we have always been friends | 17:53 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:54 |
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| alterego | What's the best way to follow IDF? | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | supposedly there's a live stream | 17:54 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: don't just prepare, do it for Tentacled's sake | 17:54 |
| alterego | Well, they'll be having their continental breakfast at the moment. | 17:55 |
| alterego | (we all know what that means) | 17:55 |
| RST38h | alterego: drugs? =) | 17:55 |
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| alterego | Heh | 17:56 |
| berndhs | i thought IDF was the Israel Defence Force, wondering what they are doing in California | 17:56 |
| qgil | I'm sure they are also here in CA, not sure where though | 17:58 |
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| berndhs | i'm sure they have people in Livermore :) | 17:59 |
| RST38h | sure, but do they congregate? | 18:00 |
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| qgil | ... if there is a livecast at IDF 2011 it's not so easy to find - http://www.intel.com/idf/keynote-speakers/index.htm | 18:01 |
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| Stskeeps | i think i found it on facebook of all places | 18:02 |
| qgil | ah FB | 18:02 |
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| * Stskeeps tries to refind it | 18:02 | |
| qgil | how could I think of finding it in the IDF2011 site when there is FB just a click away :) | 18:02 |
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| alterego | Well, when ou find the link can you post it here ;) | 18:05 |
| qgil | or in FB | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.livestream.com/intellabs | 18:06 |
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| Stskeeps | think it's just doing yesterday's presentations atm | 18:07 |
| qgil | thanks Stskeeps | 18:07 |
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| alterego | DocScrutinizer: I think you're talking to ShadowJK :P | 18:12 |
| alterego | whoops | 18:12 |
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| Guest66369 | hi | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 18:53 |
| Guest66369 | so wher are u from | 18:53 |
| Guest66369 | r u there | 18:54 |
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| alterego | Hrm, I can't find libconnman-qt in obs .. | 18:59 |
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| alterego | It's 9am folks! | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | not sure if the stream is the right one | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | it seems odd | 19:01 |
| alterego | Yeah, seems like a talk about disaster management :) | 19:01 |
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| Ulf_ | Hi | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | morning Ulf_ | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: i'm sure that's about how they handled feb11 ;) | 19:03 |
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| alterego | Heh | 19:03 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: where's the libconnman-qt package in obs? | 19:03 |
| alterego | I want to check it out so I can have a look at it. | 19:03 |
| arfoll | stream is real laggy on atom netbook :-( | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: connman-qt | 19:03 |
| alterego | Hrm, what project? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | trunk? | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | i presume | 19:04 |
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| alterego | Can't find it in Project:DE:Trunk:Testing:1.3 | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | no, meego trunk | 19:05 |
| alterego | Oh, MeeGo:Trunk .. | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | build.meego.com ;) | 19:06 |
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| qgil | arfoll: laggy indeed, and where is the keynote? I'm still seeing yesterday's sessions | 19:07 |
| alterego | Stskeeps: I don't have access build.meego.com | 19:07 |
| alterego | I'm gonna have to use the web interface for this I can tell. | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: think it's a sour stream, not sure there's any keynote streaming now | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: you can browse in web interface | 19:07 |
| arfoll | qgil: i'm trying to search for it but i cant seem to find anything... | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | qgil: am following #idf2011 now personally | 19:08 |
| qgil | ah, good one Stskeeps | 19:08 |
| Bostik | how about repo.meego.com and .src.srpm ? | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | Bostik: meh, everybody knows src.rpm isn't the true representation :P | 19:08 |
| qgil | niow is when I'm missing that forum thread that someone created for Nokia World, device launches, etc ;) | 19:08 |
| alterego | Projects > MeeGo:Trunk (This project does not contain any packages yet) :) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: build.meego.com -> projects -> Trunk | 19:09 |
| Bostik | bah :D | 19:09 |
| arfoll | i guess i'll follow the twitter hash as well | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://live.ubergizmo.com/ is also a bit useful | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | (you can actually read the slides) | 19:09 |
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| alterego | Someone should develop a twitter-torrent protocol to stop twitter failing under load :) | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | in other news, windows 8 developer preview | 19:12 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:12 |
| arfoll | lol, wonder if that will feature much at idf | 19:13 |
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| Stskeeps | windows 8 worries me.. it gives off same vibe as seeing windows on tablets back in the days | 19:15 |
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| Stskeeps | "defragment" on a tablet screenshot just makes me grimace | 19:16 |
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| arfoll | ehehe, the split keyboard looks interesting | 19:16 |
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| alterego | I like the tweets that reorder engaging, secure, consistent | 19:18 |
| alterego | To their own personal preferences. :) | 19:18 |
| alterego | And engaging is always #1 .. | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | yea, but is that a OS? :P | 19:18 |
| berndhs | if it's engaging enough, you wont care about the rest :) | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | then again, i can't help but wonder if we're moving to a war of the runtimes (browsers) instead | 19:19 |
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| berndhs | sure, running everything as a service has its advantages, particularly for the service providers | 19:20 |
| arfoll | seems to me people judge OSs on fancy swipe movements and finger combos these days | 19:20 |
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| alterego | Does it matter if they're standards compliant? :) | 19:20 |
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| alterego | Beside sthe big boys are all webkit .. | 19:20 |
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| alterego | urgh, windows 8 | 19:21 |
| Stskeeps | alterego: interesting enough, built around HTML5 for app developers.. | 19:22 |
| alterego | You mean "app" developers :) | 19:22 |
| arfoll | processor running on a solar cell. they dont say how much it pulls on that cell though... | 19:23 |
| qgil | neither how close to the sun the laptop must be ;) | 19:23 |
| qgil | sorry, the ultrabook | 19:23 |
| Stskeeps | didn't someone run a beagle off a solar cell? | 19:23 |
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| alterego | Oh god, Intel are going windows phone too! | 19:25 |
| alterego | "constistency across devices" :P | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | can you have consistency with HTML5 in the picture? that's what i'm wondering | 19:26 |
| Stskeeps | hopefully things will converge towards a standard set of behaviours | 19:26 |
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| berndhs | yeah i always wanted a consistent interface for my bike, my fridge and my helicopter | 19:27 |
| alterego | Android office phone .. | 19:27 |
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| arfoll | you dont want to swipe your finger to open your fridge? | 19:28 |
| berndhs | well, not that you put it that way | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | not if it breaks my hand when it slams open | 19:29 |
| alterego | NFC makes good on the "compute continuum" I guess. | 19:30 |
| alterego | If we have standard sync/sharing capabilities amongst all enabled devices. | 19:30 |
| arfoll | compute continuum seems like another way of saying video playback that can be resumed/pushed. Its all great but it doesnt work if you take your phone out of the house.... | 19:30 |
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| alterego | It does with "The Cloud Continuum" | 19:31 |
| qgil | arfoll: I reckon that since I was a kid I have been swiping with my fingers some of the contents of whatever fridge... | 19:31 |
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| alterego | Hahah | 19:32 |
| alterego | They're stealing all my ideas! | 19:32 |
| alterego | I've already got SMS on my computer :( | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | joggler had sms on tablet | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:32 |
| alterego | ovi suite enables SMS on desktop too :P | 19:33 |
| arfoll | lol when it worked ;-) | 19:33 |
| alterego | I came up with an idea the other day. | 19:33 |
| alterego | Having a phone stationary at home, but always connected to the internet, and all your phone calls and SMSs would go throug hthat and stream to wherever you are. | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | we should just get mobile IP gong | 19:33 |
| Stskeeps | going | 19:33 |
| alterego | I have several phones, but would like them all to have access to the same number/service | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | i'd like to say i don't have several phones but all my equipment is really starting to fill up | 19:34 |
| arfoll | i think it would make more sense to simply have one mobile phone that when at home redirects to a home phone | 19:34 |
| alterego | This isn't just about being at home | 19:34 |
| alterego | This is about me swapping sims depending on the function I'm attending ;) | 19:34 |
| arfoll | oh :-) | 19:35 |
| alterego | Or, if I have an internet connection, I shouldn't need a SIM | 19:35 |
| arfoll | might be a niche market though ;-) | 19:35 |
| qgil | double sims are the most normal things for zillions of mobile users living "elsewhere" | 19:35 |
| alterego | Maybe something with SIP | 19:35 |
| alterego | I don't want more sims, I want less sims! | 19:36 |
| alterego | One sim to rule them all :) | 19:36 |
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| Stskeeps | remember, if this keynote has no meego stuff in it, renee james (sp) has a talk tomorrow | 19:36 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/09/windows8previewie10.jpg - microb, anyone? | 19:39 |
| alterego | Heh | 19:40 |
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| luist | how can i prevent packagekitd from running on startup? | 19:44 |
| lbt | is this the weather channel ? | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: nothing interesting so far | 19:45 |
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| lbt | good I've been head-down :) | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | another day for us to scheme in | 19:45 |
| lbt | uploading now anyhow | 19:45 |
| lbt | and shell.in is up for us with osc internally | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i've detachbranched my meego packages | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | things are currently rebuidlding | 19:46 |
| lbt | I'm just copypac -A -t | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:46 |
| lbt | no prjconf yet | 19:46 |
| lbt | ping me if there's anything on the feed - my adsl can't cope with the stream today :) | 19:46 |
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| arfoll | oh well thats a little interesting... | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | what is? | 19:47 |
| arfoll | android optimised for intel etc... | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | ah, medfield | 19:48 |
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| Stskeeps | well, they do have to capitalise on that | 19:48 |
| arfoll | mind you i guess with google tv + moorestown it's not new really | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | "All future releases of Android will be optimised for Intel Architecture" | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | errr.. | 19:49 |
| lbt | which stream? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | #idf2011, twitter | 19:49 |
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| lbt | ah, not a videostream then | 19:50 |
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| luist | how can i prevent packagekitd from running on startup? | 19:50 |
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| Stskeeps | luist: kill it in xdg/autostart ? | 19:50 |
| the-boss | Stskeeps: Error: "idf2011," is not a valid command. | 19:51 |
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| Stskeeps | alright, same time tomorrow then | 19:51 |
| luist | Stskeeps, cant find anything related to packagekitd in /etc/xdg/autostart :T | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: obs has events like 'just published repo', right? | 19:53 |
| lbt | kinda | 19:53 |
| lbt | bear in mind multiple arches and things | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i don't care for those in this particular scenario | 19:53 |
| lbt | OK | 19:53 |
| arfoll | luist: do you have something like this gpk-update-icon.desktop in there? | 19:54 |
| luist | arfoll, yes | 19:54 |
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| alterego | I'm pretty sure the probelm is with meegobluetooth somehow .. | 19:55 |
| arfoll | luist: gpk = gnome-package-kit. i think thats whats starting it | 19:55 |
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| Stskeeps | well, nothing interesting in that keynote | 20:00 |
| alterego | Hrm, pretty much dinner time now. | 20:01 |
| arfoll | yep, maybe later. | 20:01 |
| Stskeeps | indeed, back to revolutionising the world | 20:01 |
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| qgil | "Dreamworks CEO provides a huge endorsement to Intel. "Dreamworks animates movies, Intel animates the world", he says." | 20:05 |
| qgil | And Qt animates Dreamworks software | 20:05 |
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| digitalsky | Hi Stskeeps | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 20:27 |
| digitalsky | How are you today? | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | fine, but going out oson | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | soon | 20:29 |
| digitalsky | Oh ok. Then I guess probably can't ask you too much. I did a s/meego-linux-gnueabi/%{vendor}-linux-gnueabi/g on the spec files | 20:29 |
| digitalsky | as well as baselibs.conf and precheckin.sh in gcc packages | 20:30 |
| digitalsky | however the project still doesn't build with the %vendor changed to something else other than "meego" | 20:30 |
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| digitalsky | eg. in gcc compile log, I still see: /usr/libexec/gcc/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi/4.6.1/cc1 not installed or /usr/libexec/gcc/armv7l-meego-linux-gnueabi/4.6.1/cc1.orig-arm already present ! | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | ok, provide me some patches and we can check it | 20:30 |
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| digitalsky | the project still does NOT build. so it's not fixed yet. | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | work in progress is fine | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | i will be gone tomorrow but thursday i can help look at it | 20:32 |
| digitalsky | Can I provide you with a script instead? | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | i guess | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | gtg | 20:32 |
| digitalsky | basically I osc checkout the whole project and just did a script to search & replace | 20:32 |
| digitalsky | ok | 20:32 |
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| digitalsky | ttyl Stskeeps | 20:33 |
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| luist | arfoll, i removed the gpk-update-icon.desktop from the xdg/autostart but the process is still running on startup :( | 20:42 |
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| arfoll | luist: what process exactly? | 20:56 |
| luist | arfoll, packagekitd? | 20:56 |
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| arfoll | luist: and that runs at startup and never goes away? | 20:57 |
| arfoll | because running stock meego 1.2 (netbook) and its not running | 20:57 |
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| luist | arfoll, yes... any idea how can i see whats calling it? | 21:00 |
| arfoll | well it should be going away when not being used, have you got zypper running or some graphical update tool? | 21:01 |
| luist | arfoll, i have a graphical update tool running but it doesnt use packagekit... | 21:03 |
| luist | arfoll, and it uses smart, not zypper | 21:03 |
| arfoll | smart can use packagekit... | 21:04 |
| arfoll | try kill it and see if packagekitd is still around | 21:04 |
| luist | arfoll, i tried running the update tool manually to see if it would activate packagekitd but it didnt | 21:06 |
| arfoll | i'm a little confused. meego doesnt have smart, you are saying packagekitd is running at startup, at startup without any update tools running, is the daemon active? | 21:08 |
| vgrade | idf chat in #meego-pub, google intel android phones wtf | 21:09 |
| berndhs | bar or pub ? | 21:10 |
| arfoll | vgrade: meego-pub or bar? please not another chan! | 21:10 |
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| javispedro | CosmoHill: nah, busy again | 21:14 |
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| javispedro | CosmoHill: there surely must be a more active player around? =) | 21:14 |
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| CosmoHill | he's eating dinner atm | 21:15 |
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| artemma | Hi | 22:48 |
| artemma | Has anybody worked with maemo::Timed? I am trying to schedule an action on Harmattan (Nokia N950), all the result codes seem to be fine, but action isn't happening | 22:48 |
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| thiago | artemma: try #harmattan | 23:10 |
| artemma | tried already :) | 23:10 |
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| artemma | timed is, however, common meego stuff to my understanding | 23:11 |
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| artemma | and unfortunately it's API and examples are quite cryptic to me | 23:11 |
| artemma | It's been a while since last time I've seen code with so many vars names a, e, a_sys2 and APIs that *set* something, but is called *whenSomething* | 23:11 |
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| Dekans | is there a way to set Meego 1.2 target on QtSDK ? | 23:12 |
| Dekans | with the Meego SDK I don't manage to use qmediaplayer or QtMultimediakit with Meego targets | 23:13 |
| artemma | thiago, actually I don't care exactly after timed, I just need to figure out a way to run my code from time to time, but cron to my understanding isn't present on harmattan | 23:14 |
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