| Stskeeps | thiago: pong | 00:00 |
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| thiago | Stskeeps: hey, did you do the bootstrapping of the ARMv7 hard-fp toolchain? | 00:02 |
| Stskeeps | thiago: aye, debian armhf based | 00:02 |
| thiago | how does it work? download the debian armhf packages, install them in a chroot, compile the cross-compiler? | 00:04 |
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| Stskeeps | basically i took debian armhf fs and built on mostly real arm hw the base 83 or so meego packages for building any meego rpm | 00:07 |
| Stskeeps | with rpmbuild in there | 00:07 |
| Stskeeps | cross compilation on top of that is obs tricks | 00:07 |
| thiago | hmm | 00:07 |
| * thiago wants a MIPS cross-compiler | 00:07 | |
| Stskeeps | #meego-mips ;) | 00:07 |
| the-boss | Stskeeps: Error: "meego-mips" is not a valid command. | 00:07 |
| thiago | do we have that? or are you pulling my leg? | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | we have that and a wiki page exists | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | not sure when they will contribute it to meego.com | 00:08 |
| thiago | I technically don't need the sysroot, just the C++ cross-compiler so I can test my new QBasicAtomicInt implementation | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 00:08 |
| thiago | do you know if we have a toolchain ready? | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | i dont, sadly | 00:08 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow, sleep time | 00:09 |
| * thiago will search the wiki then, thanks | 00:09 | |
| Stskeeps | there is contacts on the wiki i think | 00:09 |
| thiago | the IA-64 cross compiler, however, that will take considerably longer | 00:09 |
| Stskeeps | use yocto maybe? | 00:10 |
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| thiago | Yocto has MIPS and even PowerPC | 00:11 |
| thiago | but IA-64? no, they won't have it | 00:11 |
| thiago | OpenSUSE's OBS had it some months ago, but it disappeared. | 00:12 |
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| * andre__ wonders whether to propose a talk for LinuxCon Europe or not - "State of MeeGo QA"? hmm... | 00:45 | |
| Smegman | when is that | 00:49 |
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| andre__ | Oct 26-28 | http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-europe | http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2011-July/483755.html | 00:50 |
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| npm | ok well that was too easy... what's the catch? (git clone git://gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop.git ; cd desktop ; qmake ; make ; sudo make install ) | 02:07 |
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| npm | and when said qt-components are installed on meego netbook or tablet, does that mean the same QML code would run on harmattan AND meego... or am i confused about this project being part of "qt components" | 02:08 |
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| sid__ | sorry, if i ask dumb questions, but how can i access /dev/mtd* with meego | 02:11 |
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| sid__ | i think only the specivic module is not loaded | 02:12 |
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| sid__ | with n900. i need it for rescue issuses | 02:12 |
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| berndhs | the latest netbook image keeps resetting the timezone to Helsinki | 02:13 |
| javispedro | I noticed that, but try unchecking the "automatic" timezone option (in the same settings page) | 02:14 |
| berndhs | in the settings page it jknows that its not in EEST | 02:14 |
| npm | if you uncheck the automatic timezone in tablet UX ("locate and set time zone" or somesuch) you will be in a world of hurt | 02:15 |
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| javispedro | on the other hand, every time I check it it switches to HEL. | 02:15 |
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| berndhs | i dont see an "automatic" in the netbook UX time settings | 02:15 |
| sid__ | javispedro: i can confirm with n900 it switched once back | 02:16 |
| javispedro | (which is to be expected, as I don't know how where it would get automatic zone info information from on netbook) | 02:16 |
| SpeedEvil | geoip | 02:16 |
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| * javispedro envisions timezone changing randomly | 02:16 | |
| berndhs | right, at installation I told it America/Toronto | 02:17 |
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| javispedro | (which is exactly what is happening, with it switching to HEL for no reason..) | 02:17 |
| berndhs | of course the true solutions is just get rid of time zones altogether, go by true astronomical time | 02:17 |
| berndhs | use the camera to locate the sun and go by that | 02:18 |
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| npm | use a radio to tune in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWV_%28radio_station%29 | 02:21 |
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| berndhs | the time itself is correct, jsut the utc offset is wrong | 02:22 |
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| npm | actually use the phone and call 1-303-499-7111 :-) (from wikipedia article) | 02:24 |
| berndhs | they won't know where you're at though | 02:25 |
| javispedro | they know everything. | 02:27 |
| npm | gps will | 02:27 |
| berndhs | not in my basement it won't :) | 02:27 |
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| berndhs | the thing to do is to find the config-foo-netbook.yaml and make a build myself | 02:28 |
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| berndhs | if only I could tell what all the fields in the yaml mean | 02:39 |
| berndhs | or in the ks | 02:39 |
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| sid__ | is there a network manager where i can configure a different dns resolver? | 02:40 |
| sid__ | xterm and meego shell is strange | 02:40 |
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| sid__ | mg-handset-armv7nhl-n900-ce-stable-1.2.0.90.6.20110630.4.DE.2011-07-01.1-mmcblk0p.raw is always accesing to a wrong access point | 03:24 |
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| sid__ | is it a known error | 03:25 |
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| npm | hmmm very interesting... git://gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop.git works nice on tablet ux if you launch right: qmlviewer -fullscreen -opengl Gallery.qml | 03:26 |
| sid__ | did not find anything; when it ask for password it displays the right one; after it is connecting to a different one | 03:26 |
| berndhs | npm: on fedora desktop qmlviewer segfaults | 03:27 |
| npm | not for me... but don't use fedora's qt. it's ancient | 03:28 |
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| berndhs | well, ancient as in maybe 2 weeks old | 03:28 |
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| npm | it works on fedora, meego netbook, and if i launch as fullscreen opengl , on tablet | 03:28 |
| npm | if you don't, it hoses the X server and requires init 3 init 5 | 03:29 |
| berndhs | no it doesnt work on fedora with 4.7.3 :) | 03:29 |
| npm | oh... well i installed Qt SDK 1.1.2 | 03:29 |
| berndhs | haven't tried fullscreen | 03:29 |
| npm | and am using that across the board on all platforms for some regularity | 03:29 |
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| berndhs | i don't want to install SDK this and SDK that, resulting in umpteen versions of Qt on my system | 03:29 |
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| npm | that's why i installed qt sdk from horses mouth | 03:30 |
| npm | instead of all this downstream stuff with bugs | 03:30 |
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| berndhs | i want to use something that actually works on a sort of normal system, not only in an SDK | 03:30 |
| berndhs | its an interesting preview to run it in SDKs, sure | 03:30 |
| npm | i also installed Qt Mobility 1.2 final into Qt SDK 1.1.2 for same regularity on all platforms | 03:30 |
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| npm | they work on my system. i'll worry about someone elses when meego updates to the same versions (1.3) | 03:31 |
| berndhs | but if you ever want to ship any of it, previews are less valuable | 03:31 |
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| npm | these aren't previews | 03:32 |
| npm | they're the release!@ | 03:32 |
| berndhs | as long as it only runs in and SDK, its only a preview | 03:32 |
| npm | meego 1.2 unfortunately is shipping w/ beta0 qt mobility | 03:32 |
| npm | and qt 4.7.2 | 03:32 |
| berndhs | i'm not going to package all of the Qt libs with small applications | 03:32 |
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| npm | i'm not planning to. | 03:33 |
| npm | although i might package git://gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop.git onto intel appup store app (?) | 03:33 |
| berndhs | that's my point, this is preview stuff at the moment | 03:33 |
| berndhs | you can't ship any of it | 03:33 |
| npm | actually, that would be a plugin into whatever qt is installed | 03:34 |
| npm | you can add to the plugin path and add your own | 03:34 |
| berndhs | I don't think you can plugin between different Qt builds | 03:34 |
| berndhs | has to be very well aligned so that the plugin is recognized | 03:35 |
| npm | you wouldn't. it would be compiled for that build and hopefully it wouldn't crash (that would be a bug) | 03:35 |
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| npm | but the actual system wouldn't necc. need those qt-components installed, that's at least my understanding. | 03:36 |
| npm | the issue is that the qt-components desktop are just regular qt widgetry wrapped in qml as far as i can tell | 03:36 |
| berndhs | yes at some point in the future this will happen | 03:36 |
| berndhs | right, tehre is a C++ layer below the QML components | 03:36 |
| npm | oh... here's an idea regarding the fedora crash. | 03:37 |
| npm | i bet they never tested on gnome | 03:37 |
| npm | i use kde | 03:37 |
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| npm | and it works, picks up all my preferences/styles | 03:37 |
| berndhs | the fedora crash could be related to gcc4.6 or to glib , its not necessarily Qt itself | 03:37 |
| berndhs | i've seen some other crashes in the binding interpreter in javascript | 03:38 |
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| Termana | morning | 05:14 |
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| Jucato | morning (here) too | 05:29 |
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| berndhs | we're more conservative here, still thursday evening | 05:30 |
| Jucato | haha | 05:32 |
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| dm8tbr | mood groaning | 07:26 |
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| jonwil | anyone here know how to use syslog? | 07:39 |
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| sofar | lol sure | 07:44 |
| sofar | first call openlog() | 07:44 |
| sofar | then syslog() | 07:44 |
| sofar | then optionally closelog() | 07:45 |
| sofar | :) | 07:45 |
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| remware | hello, anybody with experience in porting from Android/Java to Meego/Qt ? | 11:08 |
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| lbt | remware: ask in the #meego-sdk | 11:09 |
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| lcuk | morning khertan Myrtti lbt \o | 11:15 |
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| MSM1 | No bouncing | 11:16 |
| lbt | aw | 11:16 |
| MSM1 | Maybe a slight bobbing | 11:16 |
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| lbt | bobbing -> http://www.clipjunkie.com/Bird-Ruins-Cat-Nap-vid9335.html | 11:17 |
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| MSM1 | I will allow this | 11:19 |
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| lcuk | lbt heh | 11:19 |
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| vdv | isn't it possible to install meego on n900's eMMC? | 11:51 |
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| jonwil | It is | 11:52 |
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| jonwil | Its possible to do it by repartitioning the emmc | 11:53 |
| jonwil | at least that's how I got MeeGo on my eMMC | 11:53 |
| khertan | 'lu lcuk | 11:53 |
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| khertan | lcuk: KhtEditor QML Edition running on Fremantle : http://twitpic.com/5mvljv | 11:54 |
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| khertan | lcuk: far from beeing ready yet ... | 11:54 |
| khertan | toolbar and rest of ui need works | 11:54 |
| psycho_oreos | There's a wiki entry just for that: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/EMMC | 11:54 |
| psycho_oreos | uhh *points to vdv* | 11:55 |
| vdv | oh, thanks | 11:55 |
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| lbt | vdv: that's considered dangerous AIUI | 11:56 |
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| lcuk | khertan, awesome | 11:56 |
| lcuk | how is the speed of that | 11:56 |
| lcuk | and if you have the sources available it should be possible to test on the n900-ce | 11:56 |
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| jonwil | Its possible to install MeeGo CE on a N900 eMMC without touching the maemo eMMC partitions at all | 11:57 |
| jonwil | well you touch them | 11:58 |
| jonwil | but you use gparted to make the really big mydocs partition sllightly smaller | 11:58 |
| jonwil | then you use the created space to put MeeGo CE on | 11:58 |
| khertan | lcuk: source is available in gitorious | 11:58 |
| khertan | lcuk: i ll try in meego ce right now :) | 11:58 |
| lcuk | jonwil, that would be reasonable | 11:58 |
| lcuk | khertan, link please! | 11:59 |
| khertan | lcuk: speed isn't bad ... no speed problem | 11:59 |
| jonwil | I think it was DocScrutinizer or MohammadAG who gave me instructions for meego on eMMC | 12:00 |
| lcuk | khertan, nice, please add screenshots | 12:00 |
| khertan | lcuk: http://gitorious.org/khteditor branch qml | 12:00 |
| khertan | lcuk: nothing is working yet in the toolbar :) | 12:00 |
| khertan | lcuk: python main.py main.py | 12:00 |
| khertan | there is no file dialog selection yet | 12:00 |
| lcuk | khertan, so it is (python + qml) ? | 12:01 |
| lcuk | file select dialogs are strange things | 12:01 |
| khertan | ? | 12:01 |
| khertan | it s usefull to open file to edit :) | 12:01 |
| lcuk | khertan, of course | 12:02 |
| lcuk | i meant in complexity | 12:02 |
| khertan | but for the moment it s open file from command line argument | 12:02 |
| khertan | lcuk: oh yes, it s complex | 12:02 |
| lcuk | every system has its own way of doing it | 12:02 |
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| khertan | lcuk: yep ... some do it well :) | 12:04 |
| khertan | some (fremantle) doing not well (no file extension) | 12:04 |
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| lcuk | khertan, setup.py has a potential bug | 12:16 |
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| lcuk | pasted to your PM | 12:16 |
| khertan | setup isn't ready yet | 12:17 |
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| khertan | it s the old setup of older khteditor version | 12:18 |
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| lcuk | i must say khertan, pyside + qml is a nice combination, are you experiencing any niggles? | 12:18 |
| lcuk | morning CoderForLife | 12:18 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill even | 12:19 |
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| CosmoHill | morning lbt | 12:19 |
| CosmoHill | :p | 12:19 |
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| lcuk | heh | 12:19 |
| khertan | QML : Quaintness Mad Language | 12:20 |
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| CosmoHill | Isn't QML a shopping channel? | 12:20 |
| khertan | lcuk: while i love pyside, i hate pyside | 12:20 |
| lcuk | khertan, lol | 12:20 |
| khertan | with qml, you reinvent the wheel for everything | 12:21 |
| khertan | it s slow down development | 12:21 |
| khertan | take me more time to do a fucking toolbar than doing the real code | 12:21 |
| lcuk | is that based on the components you chose? | 12:21 |
| khertan | of course there is components, but there are tied to plateform | 12:22 |
| lcuk | well khertan the editor widget already existed! | 12:22 |
| khertan | the editor ? | 12:22 |
| lcuk | the highlighter editor bit | 12:22 |
| khertan | a yes, but it s take me less time to rewrite it | 12:22 |
| khertan | and less time to do the qwidget interface than the qml toolbar | 12:23 |
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| khertan | qt is cross plateform, python is cross plateform, qml is crossplateform, components aren't | 12:23 |
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| khertan | at least not for the moment | 12:24 |
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| khertan | lcuk: did you have successfully launch it . | 12:25 |
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| khertan | ? | 12:25 |
| lcuk | khertan, no I just tried it on my regular ubuntu laptop | 12:25 |
| khertan | lcuk: i m waiting that battery is charged enough to launch meego ce | 12:26 |
| khertan | as the usb port is broken ... can't use while charging :) | 12:26 |
| khertan | lcuk: should work also on ubuntu with pyside >= 1.0.3 | 12:27 |
| khertan | there is bug in version 1.0.2 <= and registering custom component in qml | 12:28 |
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| khertan | lcuk: hopefully i can restrain the use of qml only for the ui and do the rest in python ;) | 12:30 |
| khertan | something funny also is that making some errors in qml can result in segfault difficult to track | 12:30 |
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| alterego | The C5 is quite a nice slim device. | 12:33 |
| lcuk | alterego, it is lovely | 12:33 |
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| lcuk | CosmoHill, have you finished university yet? | 12:45 |
| CosmoHill | I sat my last exam on the 1st of june and have been helping them with their / my cluster since | 12:46 |
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| CoderForLife | morning lcuk =) | 12:47 |
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| lcuk | heh CoderForLife | 12:47 |
| lcuk | CosmoHill, summer job? | 12:47 |
| CosmoHill | I could do with one | 12:47 |
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| lcuk | yeah, my eldest is looking atm | 12:48 |
| CosmoHill | how old is he? | 12:48 |
| lcuk | 16 | 12:49 |
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| CosmoHill | he can have the summer job and I'll have the contract job | 12:49 |
| vvaltone | isn't it a bit late to be wanting a summer job?-) | 12:50 |
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| vvaltone | why does qt have to be so big, building it is takes ages | 12:53 |
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| lcuk | the harmattan term program on n900-ce has the most responsive vkb! | 13:00 |
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| khertan | lcuk: the n900ce terminal is awesome | 13:02 |
| khertan | i like it | 13:02 |
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| lcuk | it is very responsive | 13:03 |
| lcuk | khertan, are you doing most development work still on your n900ce on the train? | 13:03 |
| alterego | lcuk: the forum nokia usb stick is neat :) | 13:03 |
| lcuk | alterego, it is tiny! | 13:04 |
| alterego | How big is it? | 13:04 |
| alterego | (capacity) | 13:04 |
| lcuk | 4gb I think | 13:04 |
| lcuk | but it is cool | 13:04 |
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| alterego | 4G is reasonable :) | 13:05 |
| lcuk | indeed | 13:05 |
| lcuk | bbiab | 13:06 |
| CosmoHill | what networks are you two on? | 13:06 |
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| lcuk | hm bug 14219 | 13:12 |
| MeeGoBot | Bug https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14219 maj, Low, 1.1.90.4, qiang.z.zhang, ASSI, Zypper slowness before each operation | 13:12 |
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| alterego | Yeah, | 13:38 |
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| lcuk | in the qt creator, if I add some text files to the project, how do I make sure they are deployed with the app? | 13:52 |
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| lcuk | ie, like a readme file | 13:53 |
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| wazd | damn) | 13:57 |
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| wazd | hello all :) | 13:57 |
| lcuk | hi wazd | 13:57 |
| lcuk | how are you today? | 13:57 |
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| X-Fade | RzR950: Do you really have to target 50 repositories? | 13:58 |
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| X-Fade | RzR950: That goes a bit against fair use. | 13:59 |
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| niala | hello | 14:12 |
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| CosmoHill | salut | 14:12 |
| niala | http://2011.rmll.info/?lang=en | 14:12 |
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| niala | hey CosmoHill how are you? how finish your football club? | 14:13 |
| niala | :) | 14:13 |
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| CosmoHill | we did well | 14:13 |
| CosmoHill | came 4th overall I believe | 14:13 |
| niala | anyone go here next week? http://2011.rmll.info/?lang=en | 14:14 |
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| niala | CosmoHill, nice my club town is ankruptcy lol | 14:14 |
| niala | bankruptcy | 14:14 |
| CosmoHill | I was looking at the foodball stuff they sound, load of crap | 14:14 |
| CosmoHill | oh dear | 14:15 |
| CosmoHill | got to give mum a lift, bbl | 14:15 |
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| lcuk | what is the best resource to find out about Qt options for file deployment? (for misc text files added to project with OTHER_FILES) | 14:24 |
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| lcuk | if I want to install source packages in the n900ce, which repository do I need to add | 15:11 |
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| lcuk | lbt, I created a project on my obs | 15:31 |
| lcuk | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Alcuk%3AlibXv_bug13084 | 15:31 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade, lbt: Hi! Is it now okay or what is the situation ? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=openal-soft&project=home%3Adjszapi I see a kernel panic if I click on the finished link. Also, this link does not still contain any packages: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan | 15:31 |
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| lcuk | and I added 2 repositories, MeeGo Distributions "MeeGo 1.2", and MeeGoDE distributions "Project DE Trunk Testing" | 15:32 |
| lcuk | assuming that is correct, how do I then download the latest version of libXv into my lcuk project? | 15:34 |
| lcuk | djszapi, \o | 15:34 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I think the kernel panic is irrelevant; the problem is the tarring failed because of the symlink(?) | 15:34 |
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| djszapi | hello bello lcuk :) | 15:35 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: ...I get the same kernel panic at the end of my Harmattan builds and it succeeded: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=attitude&project=home%3Ajaffa&repository=Harmattan | 15:35 |
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| djszapi | lcuk: you missed the last meego meetup, we got a N950 :) | 15:35 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: it is very odd we built harmattan packages, but this page tells us that there is no available packages yet: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan | 15:36 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: That's different. That's a project, just like our home projects. | 15:36 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: The two won't share packages (unless my knowledge is fundamentally wrong) | 15:36 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: it failed, why ? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=attica&project=home%3Adjszapi&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan | 15:36 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I dunno why but there's a line sayin g"debian transforming failed" with an error above it. | 15:37 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Suggest you start with those :-) | 15:37 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: You should be able to do: dpkg-source -x <mypkg>_<version>.dsc and then dpkg-buildpackage in Scratchbox to reproduce locally | 15:37 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: what do you mean ? | 15:37 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: I have internal Nokia scratchbox | 15:38 |
| djszapi | but that should cause any problem since the debian folder is the same with public sb, too. | 15:38 |
| djszapi | * should not | 15:38 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: I have no clue | 15:39 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: I created the description manually, wasn't it a clever idea ? | 15:39 |
| lcuk | djszapi, the N9(50) devices are awesome, I have one on the way as well | 15:41 |
| djszapi | debian tar and directory both contain 'control' | 15:41 |
| djszapi | debian transforming failed. | 15:41 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I'm afraid I don't understand. There's an error, I've no idea what it means - but I *guess* you've got a 'debian' directory inside your <mypkg>_<version>.orig.tar.gz | 15:41 |
| djszapi | so I should remove the control from the debian tarball ? That is odd. | 15:42 |
| vvaltone | lcuk, did you install android on it already? ;P | 15:42 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: "dpkg-source -x <mypkg>_<version>.dsc" would reproduce it | 15:42 |
| lcuk | vvaltone, lol! | 15:42 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: No, you shouldn't have it in your .orig.tar.gz | 15:42 |
| lcuk | no I have not got it yet | 15:42 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: no, I do not. | 15:42 |
| lcuk | my current MeeGo devices are working well | 15:42 |
| djszapi | debian tarball is a different tarball | 15:42 |
| * lcuk has MeeGo N900-ce and Netbook working happily | 15:42 | |
| * MSM steals | 15:42 | |
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| lcuk | Jaffa, did you get yourself an ideapad ? | 15:42 |
| lcuk | and have you tried to install attitude onto it (or an exopc) | 15:43 |
| vvaltone | attitude? | 15:43 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Well, I've no idea how your package is building; since you should have: <mypkg>_<version>.orig.tar.gz, <mypkg>_<version>.dsc, <mypkg>_<version>.debian.tar.gz | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | hmm. | 15:43 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I tried Attitude when I got the Exo in SF, but it didn't work (looked like accelerometer wasn't reporting) | 15:43 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: no I do not | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | i just got two "there is a n950 waiting for you" | 15:43 |
| Stskeeps | tempting. | 15:43 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I know you haven't, I can see that on https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=attica&project=home%3Adjszapi | 15:43 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, if the debian package is not stored in the source code, where do you put things like changelog and other meta info? | 15:44 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: I have debian.tar.gz (debian folder tarball) and mypackage-version.tar.gz | 15:44 |
| djszapi | the second tarball has nothing to do with the debian folder since that comes from upstream. | 15:44 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: You have it alongside in another tarball. Then your source code can be combined with .spec to produce RPM or debian tarball to produce DEB | 15:44 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: well, the link you pasted is expected regarding the tarballs | 15:44 |
| djszapi | I am now trying to delete teh debian.* files. | 15:45 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, of course but do you write changelog entries individually into .spc and debian/changelog at the same time? | 15:45 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, best thing would be a script that autogenerates both :) | 15:46 |
| lcuk | Venemo_N900, :) | 15:46 |
| lcuk | or one that updates the .spec file from debian or vice versa | 15:46 |
| Venemo_N900 | yep | 15:47 |
| * lcuk ponders such a script | 15:47 | |
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| Venemo_N900 | it'd be easy to create such an app | 15:47 |
| lcuk | using debian folder (since versioning is logical there) | 15:47 |
| * djszapi would like to have some success for not losing the sake ;) | 15:47 | |
| Jaffa | lcuk: That's what mud2'll do (although Qt Creator doesn't seem to like you maintaining debian/changelog) | 15:47 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, what package formats does mud use currently? | 15:47 |
| lcuk | or generate for | 15:47 |
| Venemo_N900 | Qt Creator doesn't like keeping changelogs | 15:48 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: should I also eliminate the debian.changelog or debian/changelog then ? | 15:48 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I suggest you look at https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=attitude&project=home%3Ajaffa and http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=24047&postcount=15 | 15:48 |
| djszapi | because I see it that way in a built package. | 15:48 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, and where does mud get its meta data from? | 15:48 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: mmh, so the answer is yes :) | 15:48 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: mud2 *currently* just does Harmattan debian for COBS. But it's about 5 lines away from Fremantle debian for autobuilder, and a bit further away from RPM | 15:49 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, what language is it written in? | 15:49 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Perl | 15:49 |
| Venemo_N900 | yuck | 15:49 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: http://gitorious.org/attitude/attitude/blobs/master/mud2 | 15:49 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: seems you have 3 important files and that is: debian.tar.gz mypackage-version.tar.gz and the dsc file | 15:50 |
| Jaffa | Venemo_N900: Don't send any patches then, has the advantage it works on all the platforms (almost out of the box) that the Qt SDK does: Windows, OS X and Linux | 15:50 |
| Venemo_N900 | Jaffa :) | 15:50 |
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| Jaffa | djszapi: Yes. Those are the three files you need. mud2 will produce them for you from the root of a Qt Creator project | 15:50 |
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| djszapi | odd | 15:51 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: finished: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=attica&project=home%3Adjszapi | 15:51 |
| lcuk | ahhh jaffa | 15:51 |
| djszapi | debian tar and directory both contain 'rules' | 15:51 |
| djszapi | duh... | 15:51 |
| lcuk | I have a similar script for generating debian packaging from (grin) visual basic application | 15:51 |
| djszapi | debian transforming failed. | 15:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, I usually write the full changelog into debian/changelog and write entries like "updated to upstream 1.2.3" into the .spec | 15:51 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: it gets automatically rebuilt in few mins, doesn't it ? | 15:52 |
| djszapi | Venemo_N900 your nickname should contain two unneccesary null :) | 15:53 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Yes | 15:53 |
| deimos | one ;) | 15:53 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Your .dsc file doesn't contain any reference to files, so I've no idea how it's doing *anything* | 15:53 |
| djszapi | deimos: well n950 is not so good... | 15:53 |
| djszapi | they do not ship an updated image with it, that is | 15:53 |
| Venemo_N900 | djszapi, what do you mean? | 15:53 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: that is not needed. Read it here: http://ldn.linuxfoundation.org/article/opensuse-build-system-building-deb-packages | 15:55 |
| djszapi | The information from the "Files:" to the end of file can be deleted as OBS does not use this and the checksums are likely to become out of date with subsequent releases | 15:55 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Interesting. Thanks. | 15:55 |
| djszapi | The Files section of the dsc file is not used by OBS and can be trimmed off to avoid having stale and misleading information around. | 15:56 |
| Jaffa | Well, mud2 generates them before giving you the files to osc commit | 15:57 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: Might be needed to have the same package target Fremantle OBS & Harmattan OBS | 15:58 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=openal-soft&project=home%3Adjszapi it does not really get rebuilt... | 15:58 |
| RzR950 | is fremantle obs available ? | 15:59 |
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| djszapi | RzR950: armvX version, yes. Hence I think yes. | 16:01 |
| djszapi | was fremantle armv6 ? There is a armv5el and armv7el | 16:02 |
| X-Fade | armv7 | 16:03 |
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| djszapi | that is the version of harmattan in sb by me | 16:03 |
| Jaffa | RzR950: No, Fremantle OBS is not available AFAIK | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | But fremantle target is not available atm. | 16:03 |
| X-Fade | -ENOTIME :) | 16:04 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: you are lucky, you have some succeeded package :) | 16:06 |
| * X-Fade has 2 ;) | 16:06 | |
| Jaffa | djszapi: That's why I wrote mud2, to get it right ;-p | 16:06 |
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| lcuk | alterego, to deploy app on the n8 do you need to install ovi suite as well as qt sdk? | 16:08 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, not necessarily, only the "connectivity driver"+QtSDK on your pc and the "app trk" on the n8 | 16:11 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: If you generate a "smart installer" package, you only need to send the file over Bluetooth to get the package, and have a network connection to let it check Qt depenedcies etc. | 16:11 |
| lcuk | "app trk"? | 16:11 |
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| * Jaffa doesn't bother with APP TRK on the N8 or anything like that - too much faff for no value (if you've got BT in your development machine) | 16:11 | |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, you can install it from the windows start menu from Qt sdk | 16:11 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, pressing the run button from qt creator | 16:12 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, it enables you to press the run button and run the app | 16:12 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: On Linux that never works, on Windows - yeah - you need to have an app (TRK) installed on the N8, and running | 16:12 |
| Jaffa | On Linux, the Remote Compiler builds me a .sis which I send over BT and run manually | 16:12 |
| lcuk | where do I get that from? | 16:13 |
| Venemo_N900 | both are in the Qt SDK | 16:13 |
| Venemo_N900 | if you install the symbian toolchain | 16:13 |
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| captainigloo | Jaffa: where did you find the MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan repo on meego OBS ? | 16:14 |
| lcuk | ok Venemo_N900 so I have the .sisx file in my start menu | 16:14 |
| lcuk | but do I just copy that over in mass storage mode? (bluetooh not on this computer) | 16:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | lcuk, install that on the device. if you have pc suite then it will automatically install when you click on it | 16:15 |
| lcuk | ok I am just installing ovi suite | 16:15 |
| lcuk | thanks | 16:15 |
| Venemo_N900 | maybe ovi suite can do it too | 16:15 |
| Jaffa | captainigloo: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=24917#post24917 | 16:15 |
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| captainigloo | Jaffa: thanks a lot | 16:17 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: what is this red exclamation mark ? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=attica&project=home%3Adjszapi | 16:18 |
| captainigloo | ah i need to upload a dsc file and a debian.tar.gz for each package i want to build ? | 16:18 |
| alterego | Updated N8 to latest firmware. | 16:18 |
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| Jaffa | djszapi: Hover over it | 16:20 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: yes, I saw, but I do not understand how the repository setup is broken. | 16:21 |
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| djszapi | and the other thing is that it is very odd it says that in this stage and not after the creation. | 16:22 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: how to fix that stuff ? | 16:24 |
| captainigloo | Jaffa: it's not possible to have the same package build for meego1.2 and meego_harmattan ? | 16:25 |
| captainigloo | i meean the same sources and .spec file | 16:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, you can not build a .spec file for harmattan | 16:26 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan (armv7el, i586) | 16:26 |
| djszapi | MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan/Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 16:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, but if you restort to using the MeeGo 1.2 API, then yes, they are source compatible | 16:26 |
| djszapi | How about your architectures settings ? | 16:26 |
| captainigloo | Venemo_N900: arg too bad :( | 16:26 |
| Jaffa | captainigloo: Yes, you can have a project with repositories for Harmattan & MeeGo 1.2 | 16:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, Harmattan uses .deb | 16:26 |
| Jaffa | captainigloo: But it requires .spec & .debian.tar.gz | 16:27 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, but I can help you with it if you wish | 16:27 |
| Jaffa | djszapi: I've no idea how to fix your stuff. I've pointed you at *my* stuff, which works | 16:27 |
| Venemo_N900 | Jaffa, hmm? .spec? for harmattan? | 16:27 |
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| captainigloo | Jaffa: ah ok so if i upload debian.tar.gz, it will build for both meego and harmattan | 16:27 |
| captainigloo | Venemo_N900: i'm not using meego 1.2 api | 16:28 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: no clue. I should be able to work with it without mud in my not that humble opinion. | 16:28 |
| captainigloo | i'm building EFL | 16:28 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, then what are you using? | 16:28 |
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| Jaffa | captainigloo: Well, the .dsc triggers it. | 16:28 |
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| captainigloo | Venemo_N900: libc,X11 and EFL | 16:29 |
| Venemo_N900 | captainigloo, if those are available for both Harmattan and MeeGo, then your package will be source compatible with both | 16:30 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: I think I found the issue | 16:31 |
| captainigloo | Venemo_N900: ok | 16:31 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: It is not yellow exclamation mark, not red, so I guess it is ok'ish, just a warning: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=attica&project=home%3Adjszapi | 16:32 |
| djszapi | and suceeded \o/ | 16:33 |
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| RzR950 | captainigloo: for armv7 ? | 16:35 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: interesting, openal-soft failed with unmet dependency, libasound2-dev. However that should be available on Harmattan. | 16:45 |
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| Jaffa | djszapi: Is it in your build-depends? | 16:48 |
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| djszapi | yeah, I think it does not like the [linux-any], let us see | 16:49 |
| djszapi | if it works, I will go for KDE with mobile profile ;) | 16:49 |
| alterego | The N8 has DAB!? | 16:51 |
| CosmoHill | really? cool | 16:51 |
| alterego | oh, wrong channel | 16:51 |
| berndhs | DAB is a good beer | 16:51 |
| lcuk | alterego, which channel? | 16:53 |
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| alterego | lcuk: heh, if it has DAB it should have all of them .. | 16:58 |
| alterego | Shame it doesn't have DVB-T :P | 16:58 |
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| lcuk | oooh liqcalendar in portrait on n8 \o/ | 16:59 |
| lcuk | next stop, obs and onto n900-ce | 16:59 |
| alterego | :) | 16:59 |
| lcuk | then actually do the rest of the app to make it work :) | 16:59 |
| alterego | good job | 16:59 |
| lcuk | alterego, did you notice the c5 does not have stylus | 17:00 |
| lcuk | but is nice resistive screen | 17:00 |
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| alterego | lcuk: yeah, it's a really cute device, I'm donating it to a friend who's had his 5800 stolen | 17:01 |
| alterego | I have too much stuff now, :/ | 17:01 |
| lcuk | you mean your friend is a willing beta tester for your applications | 17:01 |
| alterego | I need to start selling/gifting some of it. | 17:01 |
| * jonwil only needs one phone | 17:01 | |
| alterego | lcuk: all my friends are beta testers :D | 17:01 |
| djszapi | Jaffa: seriously, libasound2-dev is available.... | 17:01 |
| jonwil | N900 is all I need :P | 17:01 |
| djszapi | why doesn't c-obs try to install it ? | 17:02 |
| jonwil | Although I still have my Z6 sitting around here somewhere for no good reason | 17:02 |
| djszapi | How can we check out what is available for c-obs ? | 17:02 |
| jonwil | Tried donating it to the "open source software on Motorola linux phones" people but no-one wanted it | 17:02 |
| lcuk | djszapi, on meego, the devel packages are not -dev, but instead -devel/ | 17:02 |
| lcuk | or are you using debian/harmattan | 17:02 |
| djszapi | lcuk: it is not meego, harmattan | 17:02 |
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| * lcuk is happy to see cutewallcalendar | 17:03 | |
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| Jaffa | djszapi: Ask X-Fade. | 17:05 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: ! | 17:06 |
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| X-Fade | djszapi: log .. or it didn't happen? | 17:06 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: openal-soft build logs in my project, repo | 17:07 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: link? | 17:07 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: apt-cache search libasound2-dev | 17:07 |
| djszapi | libasound2-dev - shared library for ALSA applications -- development files | 17:07 |
| djszapi | in my sb, internal I know | 17:07 |
| alterego | heh, the dab feature requires a 45 quid head set, fuck that. | 17:07 |
| djszapi | maybe the public does not contain it, can someone double check it ? | 17:07 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: it is building again | 17:07 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: How can I give you the previous build log ? | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | You can't. | 17:08 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: How can I serve you then ? | 17:08 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: for starter, could you check in publix sb/target whether or not that package is available. | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | Hey, you have a problem.. I don't :) | 17:08 |
| djszapi | ? | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: If you depend on it, it will show you that it is not available. | 17:09 |
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| djszapi | ii libasound2 1.0.24.1-0meego2+0m6 shared library for ALSA applications | 17:09 |
| djszapi | ii libasound2-plugins 1.0.24~git20100709-0meego2+0m6 ALSA library additional plugins | 17:09 |
| djszapi | even installed on the N950 we got | 17:09 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: If you use it, but don't depend on it. Your package is broken. | 17:09 |
| djszapi | (not the *dev though, but still) | 17:09 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: it told me unmet dependency without trying to install it | 17:10 |
| djszapi | not sure why it did not try to install if it is available... | 17:10 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: Do you specify libasound2-dev ? | 17:11 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: Also "No AEGIS_HASH_FDS environment" this security framework related issue appears a lot in the log. | 17:11 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: yes, that is why it says unmet dependency. | 17:11 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: Read the comment for the project :) | 17:11 |
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| djszapi | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50), libasound2-dev, cmake, libpulse-dev | 17:11 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: what project ? | 17:11 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: The MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan one | 17:11 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: you mean that it is experimental ? | 17:12 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: Read one more line. | 17:12 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=openal-soft&project=home%3Adjszapi&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan | 17:12 |
| djszapi | you can now see the failed message | 17:13 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: Could you please make sure it is available for c-obs ? | 17:13 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: If you notice any problems, please ping X-Fade on #meego on freenode irc. :p I am poking you. | 17:13 |
| djszapi | I need libasound2-dev available for my package :) | 17:14 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: Remove [linux-any] | 17:14 |
| djszapi | did | 17:14 |
| X-Fade | No? | 17:14 |
| djszapi | really ? | 17:14 |
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| djszapi | I uploaded a version without that actually. | 17:15 |
| djszapi | maybe another bug of c-obs ;) | 17:15 |
| X-Fade | .dsc is 2 hours old. | 17:15 |
| djszapi | oh from there | 17:16 |
| djszapi | yeah, I forgot that, just control.... | 17:16 |
| djszapi | good to know I need to concentrate on two places then with dependencies, thanks. | 17:16 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: maybe a warning in the future, if the two does not match ;) | 17:17 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: #opensuse-buildservice | 17:17 |
| djszapi | right | 17:17 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: another error: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=openal-soft&project=home%3Adjszapi&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan | 17:24 |
| djszapi | dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found | 17:25 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: That is quite clear, no? | 17:25 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: dpkg-source is no magic. | 17:25 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: You can test that yourself. | 17:25 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: well, the openal-soft-1.13.tar.gz is there. | 17:26 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: wrong format dsc then. | 17:26 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: what do you mean ? | 17:26 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: google it. | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: I need to go, basically debian format 3 is different from older format. | 17:27 |
| X-Fade | djszapi: requires you to name files differently. Look at Jaffa's project. | 17:27 |
| djszapi | ah with orig bah | 17:27 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: but why is it different for different packages ? | 17:29 |
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| X-Fade | djszapi: You need to specify format. | 17:29 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: how and format of what ? | 17:34 |
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| djszapi | I just remove debian/source, let us try. | 17:35 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: fixed, how does c-obs work ? If I upload the tar.gz file again after the build started but in the environment setup change, will it take the new or old tar.gz ? | 17:49 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: it now tells the repository is broken. However I did not change anything about the repository. | 18:08 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: BTW, is it possible to find all projects which have published packages using a particular repository (i.e. find anyone who's using Harmattan COBS so I can play with their packages)? | 18:13 |
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| djszapi | Jaffa: my repository got broken according to the red exclamation and I did not change anything, funky. | 18:14 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade: it seems a broken build machine to me. | 18:19 |
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| rafael2k | people, anyone working with the bluetooth nokia DTV tunner? | 18:58 |
| rafael2k | working in supporting this device. | 18:58 |
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| captainigloo | RzR950: if i could create package for meego 1.2 x86/armv7 and meego harmattan armv7 it would be cool | 19:15 |
| captainigloo | you receive your device, lucky guy :) | 19:15 |
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| sid__ | hi, does anyone know, how i can access n900 nand with meego 1.2? /dev/mtd* does not exist | 20:03 |
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| RzR950 | captainigloo: yes and I am root :) | 20:48 |
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| npm | me watches webcast on android openness that concludes that android is semi open: http://marakana.com/static/slides/OpenAndroid.pdf | 21:01 |
| npm | s/me//me | 21:02 |
| npm | :-) | 21:02 |
| maligor | yes and no | 21:02 |
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| maligor | the android license certainly allows you to fork your own advanced version | 21:02 |
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| npm | http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/12/google-android-skyhook-lawsuit-motorola-samsung/ | 21:08 |
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| sid__ | is it normal that nand vendor is not recognized? http://pastebin.com/VrWaF1S6 | 21:30 |
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| lcuk | alterego, ping | 22:08 |
| lcuk | i have a simple qwidget based project with a container holding 52 rows of data inside it, dragging the mouse moves the whole group container | 22:09 |
| lcuk | and it is slower at scrolling than the other things on n8 o_O | 22:10 |
| * lcuk really wonders where qt scaleability is coming from | 22:10 | |
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| auke | Sage: ping | 22:15 |
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| w00t | lcuk: got the source somewhere? | 22:17 |
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| alterego | lcuk: pongo | 22:19 |
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| alterego | lcuk: what's you model? | 22:20 |
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| lcuk | w00t, not yet uploaded I cannot suss out how to do Nokia Developer account uploads and stuff yet | 22:24 |
| lcuk | essentially, MainWindow contains YearView contains 52*WeekView contains 7*DayView | 22:24 |
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| lcuk | DayView is a qwidget with its paint method overloaded or whatever it is and just coloring a rectangle | 22:25 |
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| alterego | hmm | 22:25 |
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| lcuk | ahh perhaps I can prevent painting of the parent widgets | 22:26 |
| lcuk | ie Year/Week ones | 22:26 |
| lcuk | since the only drawing operation is the calendar day item itself | 22:26 |
| * lcuk does not know how to do that though hmm | 22:26 | |
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| alterego | You're not creating a proper model of data then, and then making diffrenet "views" .. | 22:27 |
| alterego | erm, I gotta dash, I'll be back in a bit or tomorrow. | 22:27 |
| lcuk | Qt::WA_OpaquePaintEvent | 22:28 |
| lcuk | alterego, no need for that | 22:28 |
| lcuk | in the paint event of a dayview | 22:28 |
| lcuk | if!sketchloaded() and fileexists(date) loadsketch | 22:28 |
| lcuk | else paintsketch() | 22:28 |
| lcuk | works a treat | 22:28 |
| lcuk | no need to overcomplexify | 22:28 |
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| wmarone_ | :/ | 22:31 |
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| lcuk | ahh that did appear to resolve it setAttribute(Qt::WA_OpaquePaintEvent,true); | 22:33 |
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| luist | i need pyqt for meego… where should i get it? | 22:36 |
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| auke | luist: it's not packaged, you'll have to build it yourself | 22:40 |
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| luist | auke: oh great | 22:45 |
| lcuk | luist, shouldn't take more than 5 minutes ;) | 22:47 |
| auke | yeah, it sucks to have to learn a real programming language ;) | 22:47 |
| lcuk | auke, like what? | 22:47 |
| luist | lcuk: yeah but ill have to package it = | 22:47 |
| auke | haskelllllllllllllll | 22:47 |
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| * lcuk writes pseudocode | 22:47 | |
| auke | lcuk: your programs pseudo-work? | 22:48 |
| * auke approaches -EOFFTOPIC | 22:48 | |
| lcuk | auke, yes! http://liqbase.net/liq.20110621_200232.codebox4.scr.png | 22:48 |
| auke | lcuk: I pseudo-applaud :) | 22:50 |
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| mer_ge | I installed java from the community repo (netbook) and an rpm is complaining bout dependencies: "java >= 1:1.5.0 needed..." | 23:00 |
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| mer_ge | nevermind. --nodeps did the trick | 23:09 |
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| berndhs | what's the new installer called, the simplified one ? | 23:26 |
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