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| kerio | freemangordon: :( :( :( | 10:00 | 
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| bencoh | kerio: meh | 10:11 | 
| kerio | fmg lies | 10:11 | 
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| sixwheeledbeast | ~fmg | 11:24 | 
| infobot | it has been said that fmg is the greatest | 11:24 | 
| kerio | yeah but | 11:24 | 
| sixwheeledbeast | ;) | 11:24 | 
| kerio | he lies | 11:24 | 
| bencoh | kerio: meh. :) | 11:32 | 
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| kerio | he won't even answer :c | 12:42 | 
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| kerio | freemangordon: ping | 13:24 | 
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| freemangordon | kerio: pong | 14:24 | 
| kerio | hai | 14:24 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: going to compile ssh and put it in the repo | 14:25 | 
| kerio | ^_^ | 14:25 | 
| kerio | which ssh | 14:25 | 
| freemangordon | zf | 14:25 | 
| freemangordon | openssl | 14:26 | 
| kerio | that's not ssh | 14:26 | 
| freemangordon | well, that's what I will do | 14:26 | 
| freemangordon | what ssh do you mean? | 14:26 | 
| kerio | i mean ssh | 14:26 | 
| kerio | as in openssh | 14:26 | 
| freemangordon | and why do you need thumb-compiled openss? | 14:26 | 
| freemangordon | *openssh | 14:26 | 
| kerio | as an excuse to also get an updated version of it | 14:27 | 
| kerio | at least 6.5, so there's curve25519 kex and ed25519 keys | 14:27 | 
| freemangordon | seems I miss something, could you elaborate? | 14:27 | 
| kerio | and chacha20/poly1305 ciphers | 14:27 | 
| freemangordon | is it in the repos? | 14:27 | 
| kerio | freemangordon: it takes like 2 seconds for me to login to my n900 | 14:27 | 
| freemangordon | so? | 14:27 | 
| kerio | both curve25519 and chacha20/poly1305 are high-security and high-speed | 14:28 | 
| kerio | so it would be neat to have fast crypto | 14:28 | 
| kerio | on a low-powered device like the n900 | 14:28 | 
| freemangordon | ok, but I still don;t get it why it is me to upgrade it. | 14:28 | 
| freemangordon | who's the maintainer? | 14:28 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: also, afaik the crypto is done in openssl | 14:29 | 
| freemangordon | ssh just uses it | 14:29 | 
| kerio | not for ed25519/chacha20-poly1305 | 14:29 | 
| kerio | that's builtin | 14:29 | 
| freemangordon | ok. however, did you try to contact the maintainer? | 14:30 | 
| kerio | but it's in fremantle sdk tools | 14:30 | 
| kerio | ok nvm it's also in extras-* | 14:30 | 
| freemangordon | yep | 14:31 | 
| freemangordon | feel free to become maintainer and put the upgraded version in extras-devel | 14:31 | 
| freemangordon | :) | 14:31 | 
| kerio | you know i've never been able to get the sdk to do anything | 14:32 | 
| kerio | and now half of the repos are fucking gone | 14:32 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: all you need is there, SDK wise | 14:32 | 
| kerio | how the hell do i figure out how quick a cpu is | 14:32 | 
| freemangordon | what? | 14:32 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: I can help you setting up the SDK | 14:33 | 
| kerio | well, /proc/cpuinfo on my sheevaplug doesn't show the clock speed | 14:33 | 
| freemangordon | sorry, how's that related? | 14:33 | 
| kerio | unrelated, but i wanted to figure out how much of a speedup we could expect | 14:33 | 
| kerio | i can login in 0.3 seconds via ssh | 14:34 | 
| kerio | freemangordon: alright, i have the SDK VM | 14:35 | 
| kerio | do i upgrade the ubuntu in it | 14:35 | 
| freemangordon | do you need to? | 14:35 | 
| freemangordon | BTW, you can setup SB in your native OS | 14:36 | 
| kerio | i strongly doubt it | 14:36 | 
| freemangordon | no need for VM | 14:36 | 
| freemangordon | I have SB here on ubuntu 14.04 | 14:36 | 
| freemangordon | 64bit | 14:37 | 
| kerio | i commend you for your efforts | 14:37 | 
| kerio | but setting up scratchbox on os x might be a bit too hard for me | 14:37 | 
| freemangordon | oh | 14:37 | 
| freemangordon | yeah, fruit guy | 14:37 | 
| freemangordon | anyway, do not upgrade ubuntu in SDK | 14:38 | 
| freemangordon | it may break SB | 14:38 | 
| kerio | i'm not changing ubuntu version | 14:39 | 
| freemangordon | ok, you can install updates | 14:40 | 
| freemangordon | if that was your question | 14:40 | 
| kerio | what do i replace scratchbox.org with | 14:41 | 
| freemangordon | ~sb | 14:41 | 
| infobot | i guess scratchbox is a cross-compiling system that uses binfmt_misc, rpc calls, and an nfs mount to make a cross-build appear to be 100% native, and is found at http://www.scratchbox.org/, hosted by maemo now. Also at http://maemo.merlin1991.at/files/SB | 14:41 | 
| kerio | no, the repo | 14:41 | 
| freemangordon | I know | 14:42 | 
| kerio | ok, what can i reasonably expect to compile? | 14:42 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: but isn;t it alive? | 14:42 | 
| freemangordon | http://www.scratchbox.org/debian/dists/fremantle/ | 14:42 | 
| kerio | yeah it looks like it | 14:42 | 
| Pali | do you know if there is any ssh-askpass for Maemo? | 14:43 | 
| Pali | (needed if you add ssh key to ssh-agent with -c confirm option) | 14:43 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: everything I know of still compiles | 14:43 | 
| freemangordon | Pali: no idea | 14:43 | 
| kerio | no, i meant for updated packages | 14:43 | 
| kerio | Pali! | 14:43 | 
| kerio | compile me an openssh 6.8 pls | 14:43 | 
| Pali | so I need to write first maemo-ssh-askpass? :-) | 14:44 | 
| kerio | isn't fremantle about the same as debian etch | 14:44 | 
| kerio | Pali: well, the askpass dialog could be kinda simple to pull off | 14:44 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: dammit, just dpkg-source -x the damn source package and compile it | 14:44 | 
| Pali | kerio: turn on VM and compile it :-) | 14:44 | 
| kerio | it's literally just a script that displays a message and exits with 0 or 1, iirc | 14:45 | 
| kerio | it's not actually askpass | 14:45 | 
| kerio | ssh-agent doesn't need the password | 14:45 | 
| kerio | Pali: 2:40 remaining for the ubuntu updates | 14:46 | 
| Pali | yes, but for some reasons it is called ssh-askpass | 14:46 | 
| kerio | will it even call ssh-askpass if it exists? i thought you had to put SSH_ASKPASS in the ssh-agent's environment | 14:47 | 
| kerio | and specify a program | 14:47 | 
| kerio | should i install cssu in scratchbox? | 14:48 | 
| Pali | if SSH_ASKPASS is not specified then /usr/lib/ssh/ssh-askpass is used | 14:48 | 
| freemangordon | if you aim for cssu | 14:48 | 
| Pali | on debian systems /usr/bin/ssh-askpass is used (special debian patch) | 14:49 | 
| kerio | i aim for my n900 .-. | 14:49 | 
| freemangordon | kerio: you don;t really need it otherwise | 14:49 | 
| kerio | i have no idea how to properly maintain a package anyway | 14:49 | 
| Pali | kerio, no, ssh can ask ssh-askpass for password too | 14:52 | 
| Pali | (or ssh-agent) | 14:52 | 
| kerio | yeah but you're not going to use to get it to ask for the password | 14:52 | 
| Pali | you can lock agent with password | 14:52 | 
| kerio | are you | 14:52 | 
| kerio | meh | 14:53 | 
| kerio | ok | 15:00 | 
| kerio | how do i scratch boxes | 15:00 | 
| kerio | hrmpf, wheezy's openssh-server depends on libc6 2.13 | 15:02 | 
| kerio | ok that's false, it's only 2.8 | 15:03 | 
| bencoh | openssh most probably doesnt really depend on any specific libc version ;p | 15:05 | 
| kerio | configure: WARNING: ****** Your snprintf() function is broken, complain to your vendor | 15:07 | 
| kerio | i love the openbsd guys ^_^ | 15:07 | 
| bencoh | haha | 15:08 | 
| bencoh | riiight :) | 15:08 | 
| kerio | hrmpf, OpenSSL version header not found. | 15:08 | 
| kerio | libssl-dev is installed | 15:08 | 
| Pali | wut? snprintf in glibc is broken?? | 15:09 | 
| kerio | Pali: checking whether snprintf correctly terminates long strings... no | 15:10 | 
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| Pali | can you give me example? | 15:11 | 
| kerio | the openssh 6.8p1 configure script | 15:11 | 
| kerio | oh i guess it depends on openssl 1 | 15:11 | 
| Pali | https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2012-September/030714.html | 15:12 | 
| kerio | oh my fucking gooooooooooooooooooood | 15:13 | 
| kerio | it failed to check the size of short int | 15:13 | 
| kerio | qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) | 15:14 | 
| kerio | some days i wish the n900 ran linux | 15:14 | 
| kerio | alright which dmnc mirror are we supposed to use? | 15:27 | 
| kerio | (i gave up, btw) | 15:44 | 
| bencoh | whichever you want | 16:19 | 
| bencoh | there are already 3 or 4 of them on tmo | 16:20 | 
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| kerio | freemangordon: where's the thumby openssl? :( | 18:18 | 
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