IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2014-08-20

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DocScrutinizer05sixwheeledbeast1: particularly installing to different stock maemo5 and old cssu-s systems needs testing17:44
DocScrutinizer05the installing process itself17:44
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DocScrutinizer05under several particular situations like: low free storage, poor connectivity, whatever package installs user added on top of bare cssu-s, maybe even installing on top of cssu-t, aso17:46
DocScrutinizer05worst thing to happen: our testing just covered a niche case (e.g. fresh flash) and 90% of users run into trouble since their more complex situation isn't tested neither working. Icing on top: breaks system and no way to recover - except fresh install from scratch17:49
DocScrutinizer05any *minor* bugs that just show up after update with *running* the system can get fixed by a simple rollout of an updated bugfixed version17:51
DocScrutinizer05(though of course no such bugs are supposed to show up in STABLE. That's why we got cssu-testing to spot them all so they don't make it to stable)17:52
DocScrutinizer05*installing* however is a different story, since the crap like e.g. MP is all new and untested for this particular cssu-s17:53
DocScrutinizer05what we need isn't 25 days of running the new stable version, but 25 installs/updates done on 25 different systems17:54
DocScrutinizer05stuff like "ill it install with and without uSD inserted?", "will it install when only 500MB free on /home ?" etc17:56
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sixwheeledbeast1well two upgrades here one with a sim and uSD, one without either. Merlin has tested from a fresh pr1.3.1 system. I fail to see how to test every variant of system without loads of testers all with different setups. I would think most people willing to install a pre-stable are using testing anyway.19:10
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DocScrutinizer05the 'trick' is to get a number of proper full backups of systems in different states of update/storage/installed-apps. Then have cssu-s update run on every of them19:32
DocScrutinizer05BM is crucial for that19:33
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