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| sixwheeledbeast | so does CSSU-S need a new maintainer(s)? | 00:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | sixwheeledbeast: I'd think yes | 01:10 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 10:04 |
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| merlin1991 | going over all packages in cssu is quite some work nowadays | 19:17 |
| merlin1991 | I only got to 'i' untill now (going over them in alphabetical order) | 19:18 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: afaik Pali has some automated script | 20:07 |
| merlin1991 | well that compares versions | 20:08 |
| merlin1991 | but I'm also going over the source trying to add more context to the changes :) | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | I see | 20:08 |
| merlin1991 | by now I have a 348 lines text file | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: so, you plan a new -testing. what about -stable? | 20:08 |
| merlin1991 | we'll have to talk about that in the meeting | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | which is when, BTW? | 20:09 |
| merlin1991 | 1 hr | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | in an hour an a half? | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:09 |
| merlin1991 | 18:00 UTC so in an hour | 20:09 |
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| luf | It seems I'll be a little bit late. I'm still sitting in office :( | 20:41 |
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| Pali | and possible using thumb2 by default | 21:10 |
| Pali | luf, silviof: ping | 21:11 |
| Pali | add to agenda: modest problems | 21:12 |
| merlin1991 | about the mce rewrite, does it currently have anything (fixes, bugs) that are not part of the original mce? | 21:12 |
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| Pali | (partial) upstream kernel support | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: afaik no, it should be 100% compatible | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | yeah, plus it has (had :) ) upstream kernel support | 21:13 |
| Pali | there were some bugs reported against mce, no idea if somebody wrote patches for that (on TMO) | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | I fixed the only bug reported | 21:14 |
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| merlin1991 | does it now have upstream kernel support or not ? | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mce/commit/c50e38992802483aa8e1350ebf57b0afa6bacb81 | 21:14 |
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| Pali | freemangordon: that commit reminds me bug in reminder/calendar/alarm | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | Pali: wait, what is missing in mce for upstream kernel? besides DT stuff? | 21:16 |
| Pali | fixes for gpio-switch kernel module | 21:16 |
| Pali | that module is part of compatiliby layer | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | but it is not a part of mce | 21:17 |
| Pali | and there are other sysfs paths | 21:17 |
| Pali | mce using gpio switch sysfs | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | iirc I fixed most of them | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | (other paths) | 21:17 |
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| Pali | it needs to be rewritten to use /sys/class/gpio.. | 21:17 |
| freemangordon | hmm, ok | 21:17 |
| Pali | and musb_hdrc | 21:17 |
| Pali | paths was changed too | 21:18 |
| Pali | I have text document with some these changes | 21:18 |
| Pali | will send it to you, when I find it | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | ok, but I think we should delay those changes until at least 3.17 | 21:18 |
| Pali | ok | 21:18 |
| kerio | Pali! | 21:18 |
| kerio | hi! | 21:18 |
| freemangordon | as it seems the ABI is still not stable | 21:18 |
| Pali | freemangordon: bug in alarm/calendar: when I press button for stopping ring screen is black, but not locked | 21:19 |
| Pali | and touchscreen is enabled | 21:19 |
| freemangordon | should it lock? | 21:19 |
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| Pali | yes, when screen is dark, touchpad should be disabled | 21:19 |
| Pali | this is with new systemui and kp | 21:19 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: ping | 21:20 |
| Pali | kerio: hi | 21:20 |
| freemangordon | hmm, ok, will check how the original alarmui behaves | 21:20 |
| Pali | this is bug and should be fixed | 21:20 |
| * freemangordon writes it in todo | 21:20 | |
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| Pali | it is really bad, when I stop alarm clock, close it, put phone to pocket and touchscreen stay enabled | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | yeah, got it | 21:21 |
| freemangordon | will take care | 21:21 |
| Pali | and before alarm clock screen was locked | 21:21 |
| Pali | ok | 21:21 |
| Pali | btw, docscrutinizer51 reported some bug in mce on TMO, but do not remember | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the indicator LED? | 21:22 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: ping | 21:22 |
| Pali | maybe, I do not remember | 21:22 |
| Pali | can you give us pointer? | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | something with indicator LED | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ugh | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | some missing 5 in a struct | 21:23 |
| freemangordon | iirc | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, sth like that | 21:23 |
| Pali | and some patch for kernel | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one byte 0->5 or somesuch | 21:23 |
| Pali | I see somewhere | 21:23 |
| Pali | urgent patches could go to kp53 | 21:24 |
| arcean | hi | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw HI PALI!!! | 21:24 |
| freemangordon | arcean: hi! | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HI ARCEAN! | 21:24 |
| Pali | I'm palnning to release it asap, but In do not have lot of time | 21:24 |
| Pali | HI | 21:24 |
| kerio | HI DOC | 21:24 |
| arcean | HI DOC! | 21:24 |
| arcean | ;D | 21:24 |
| merlin1991 | capsday? | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | excited! | 21:24 |
| Pali | so everybody? :-) | 21:24 |
| kerio | I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT SIR | 21:24 |
| kerio | I ONLY USE THE MOST GENUINE SHIFT KEY | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-D | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err :-d | 21:25 |
| Pali | so we can start, first, whats state of cssu-stable? | 21:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh there's a meeting? | 21:25 |
| Pali | yes | 21:25 |
| arcean | terribly outdated? | 21:26 |
| freemangordon | yeah, -stable | 21:26 |
| Pali | who officialy care about cssu-stable? we have not seen any update for ages | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nobody, anymore | 21:26 |
| freemangordon | it is supposed to be chemist, but, as you may see... | 21:26 |
| kerio | are there known problems with cssu-testing in the parts that would be used in cssu-stable? | 21:26 |
| merlin1991 | chemist was maintainer, but he stepped down yesterday | 21:26 |
| freemangordon | kerio: we are missing the maintainer | 21:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-06-18 Wed 12:14:01] <chem|st> freemangordon: your mail has a nice touch and docs reply here is another good one - I resign as maintainer, effective immediately | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-06-18 Wed 12:17:08] <chem|st> freemangordon: next time you offer help, make sure to actually help - I don't have the logs but I remember it a bit different - I said I need no help with scratchbox, which was true at this point and is now again | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | did he? | 21:27 |
| freemangordon | oh, I see | 21:27 |
| merlin1991 | so now we need a new maintainer, any suggestions how we find one? | 21:27 |
| Pali | ok, somebody who can maintain cssu-stable? | 21:27 |
| merlin1991 | or any volunteers? | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | we can ask on TMO I guess | 21:28 |
| Pali | ok | 21:28 |
| freemangordon | unless you have someone in mind | 21:28 |
| * kerio votes for merlin1991 | 21:28 | |
| * merlin1991 gets his lart | 21:29 | |
| freemangordon | in the meanwhile I think we should issue a new -stable ASAP | 21:29 |
| merlin1991 | the preparation for that is going to be quite some work | 21:29 |
| merlin1991 | the gap is huge | 21:29 |
| arcean | is it possible to rebrand -testing to -stable? | 21:29 |
| Pali | I'm for moving all non RE and non NEW packages from current testing for stable | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I vote for you guys preparing a -S without a dedicated maintainer, for now. Then find a new maintainer | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | yep | 21:29 |
| freemangordon | my point exactly | 21:30 |
| arcean | yes | 21:30 |
| kerio | isn't -stable supposed to not have any UI change? | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: we can split the work I guess | 21:30 |
| Pali | thats packages are already tested | 21:30 |
| kerio | grab anything from -testing that fits | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | or, as arcean said rebrand -testing to -stable | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | removing replacements | 21:30 |
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| merlin1991 | for those who weren't here earlier: https://piratenpad.de/G4YLdvQN5k | 21:30 |
| merlin1991 | list of all packages currently in -devel and -testing | 21:30 |
| freemangordon | so, what about what arcean said? | 21:31 |
| arcean | if it work then why not? ofc without all those RE bits | 21:32 |
| Pali | freemangordon: what about only packages which are already in -stable? | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | we have to remove camera-ui and clock-ui | 21:32 |
| arcean | *works | 21:32 |
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| Pali | this means no RE and NEW packages | 21:32 |
| arcean | as for now | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | Pali: we'll have to remove some packages which are known to have bugs in -tasting, h-d for example | 21:32 |
| Pali | good point | 21:32 |
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| Pali | I'm going to create list of packages | 21:33 |
| freemangordon | but why not RE and NEW packages? if they are in -testing for long enough and have no known bugs? | 21:33 |
| merlin1991 | there's a few things, we need to remove packages with known bugs, remove re where there is nothing gained, ie the tklock replacement I'd actually want to see in stable | 21:33 |
| luf | I'm sorry still in office. | 21:33 |
| luf | I'm still in the office. I'll be at home online hopefuly in 30 minutes,.\ | 21:33 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: most of the RE stuff fixes something, mce excluded so far | 21:34 |
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| arcean | freemangordon: any links for problems in hildon? | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mce fixes stuff, but is blamed for also breaking stuff | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | and I'd even include alarm-ui, despite the bug Pali reported ^^^, as RE fixes a nasty memory leak | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | arcean: I fixed those, but the fixed version is only in -devel | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: mce in -devel has no known bugs | 21:35 |
| arcean | k | 21:35 |
| Pali | freemangordon: new stable should be released asap = if it is possible now, today or tomorrow | 21:35 |
| Pali | and updating only already tested non RE packages, which are 100% stable and working | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: has it seen testing and quarantine? | 21:36 |
| merlin1991 | so my plan for a new stable release would be: | 21:36 |
| merlin1991 | 1) add all stable versions to the piratepad for comparison | 21:36 |
| merlin1991 | 2) go over all newer packages and check for known problems, update if none | 21:36 |
| merlin1991 | 3) go over all REs and see if the bring more fixes than bugs, if yes add them | 21:36 |
| merlin1991 | 4) relase a new stable | 21:36 |
| Pali | merlin1991: now I'm working on list | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no, that is why I excluded it | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc 5) search for a new maintainer that can do this in the future | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/9c5a4d491518f2f27092ceed75edf4adac70640b | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | arcean: and https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/376f5c707a4ddfa06dc7190ba394a93d92a00d29 | 21:37 |
| luf | Hi, not sure if you get my message. I have to move from office to home. I'll be back online in 30 minutes. I'm sorry for that. | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | luf: yep, we got it you're still in your office | 21:38 |
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| merlin1991 | it would be great if we could add all the info to https://piratenpad.de/G4YLdvQN5k so that each package listed there ends up with version tags (stable, testing, devel) and info what version could go into stable and what the changes are | 21:39 |
| Pali | here is list of packages (candidates from cssu-testing to cssu-stable): apt clutter dosfstools freetype gtk+2.0 hildon-application-manager hildon-desktop ke-recv libcpaboutcssu libhildon libhildonfm libxml2 maemo-security-certman modest modest-l10n mp-fremantle-community-pr openssl osso-calculator osso-gnome-vfs2 osso-xterm qt4-x11 status-area-orientationlock-applet vte | 21:39 |
| freemangordon | Pali: no hildon-desktop, the version in testing is buggy | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91849&highlight=MCE | 21:40 |
| Pali | now there is time for comments | 21:40 |
| Pali | also no modest, its buggy too | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: thanks, adding to my todo | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | Pali: how? | 21:40 |
| Pali | bugfixes which was fixed in PR1.3 are not fixed in cssu-testing yet | 21:41 |
| Pali | long story | 21:41 |
| freemangordon | but what is the situation compared to -stable? | 21:41 |
| Pali | do not know but, modest in cssu-testing is buggy | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | well, ok, modest is your pet | 21:42 |
| merlin1991 | the current modest in stable is the same as current modest in testing | 21:42 |
| merlin1991 | err scratch that | 21:42 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I don;t see microb in your list | 21:43 |
| merlin1991 | stable: 3.90.7-11.2 testing: 3.90.7-12.2 | 21:43 |
| Pali | because microb is not in -stable | 21:43 |
| Pali | also remove ke-recv from list | 21:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | FWIW I care about the future of stable. | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | wanna be a maintainer? | 21:44 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Also the current CSSU-S h-d has bugs | 21:44 |
| Pali | ke-recv in testing has also bugs | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | yep | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | Pali: what about taking the opposite approach - take what is in -testing and strip it | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | we'll save lots of time IMO | 21:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: if I am capable and nobody else wishes to, I may need some help at first. | 21:45 |
| merlin1991 | we're not going to be able to discuss all packages here now, so I suggest everyone can throw his knowledge about bugs and changes for each package onto the piratepad and we talk again next week? | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: well, nobody but you can judge if you are capable or not, I guess | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: but we can do part of the work now, can't we? | 21:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I agree that a new CSSU-S need to be released soon, even if it's the A-GPS cert fix for now | 21:47 |
| Pali | merlin1991: I think that we should do it now | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 21:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I'll shut up now... | 21:47 |
| Pali | only proposed packages are above which I wrote ^^^^^ | 21:47 |
| Pali | and list is not long | 21:47 |
| merlin1991 | okay then, one by one | 21:48 |
| Pali | 1. apt | 21:48 |
| Pali | according to git there is only my changes which are not in -testing yet | 21:49 |
| Pali | so remove it | 21:49 |
| Pali | 2. clutter | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | enough time in -testing IMO | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | Ivaylo Dimitrov <freemangordon@abv.bg> Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:05:33 +0200 | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 21:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-11-23.log.html#t2013-11-23T18:02:06 | 21:51 |
| merlin1991 | clutter is a go | 21:52 |
| Pali | ok, add it | 21:52 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: remind it after we finish talk about -stable | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: that would be a change in the behaviour, I don;t think it is not the time to discuss it. I'll keep that link for further reading | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | *now | 21:52 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's a backward compatible extension of allowed syntax | 21:53 |
| freemangordon | ok, next: | 21:53 |
| freemangordon | dosfstools | 21:53 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: however, lets finish with -stable first | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure | 21:53 |
| Pali | dosfstools, -testing only fixing install paths? | 21:54 |
| Pali | if yes, than add it to -stable | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | agree | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | what is the version in -testing? | 21:54 |
| Pali | testing: 1:3.0.12-0cssu0.3 stable: 1:3.0.12-0cssu0.2 | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | I'd say add it | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I think sixwheeledbeast's offer to take maintainership of -S shouldn't go unnoticed | 21:55 |
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| freemangordon | it didn't | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ok | 21:55 |
| Pali | ok, next package is freetype | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | Sunday March 18 2012 | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | a CVE fix, I'd say give it a go | 21:57 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 21:57 |
| arcean | yeah, 2012 :D | 21:57 |
| Pali | testing: 2.3.9-2osso2+0cssu1 stable: 2.3.9-1osso2+0m5+0cssu1 | 21:57 |
| bencoh | ^^ | 21:57 |
| Pali | add it | 21:58 |
| arcean | sure | 21:58 |
| merlin1991 | it's on the list | 21:58 |
| Pali | next package gtk+2.0 | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/gtk/commit/9c3d89f24acae6769fc4dd3bd3ba0213e5552b9c ? | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | can't parse it :) | 21:58 |
| Pali | I remember | 21:58 |
| Pali | we replaced git tree with official one | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | I see | 21:59 |
| Pali | and official git tree has fixed bugs which was not part of -stable and not part of PR1.3 | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | so, include it? | 21:59 |
| Pali | unreleased version: 2:2.14.7-1maemo34 | 21:59 |
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| freemangordon | Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:22:00 +0100 | 21:59 |
| Pali | yes, include it | 21:59 |
| Pali | + * Fixes: NB#136782 - Task launcher shows standard icon instead of | 21:59 |
| Pali | + application icon | 21:59 |
| Pali | + * Fixes: NB#175659 - One of the account is always highlighted in VoIP | 21:59 |
| Pali | + and IM accounts selection | 21:59 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:00 |
| merlin1991 | going in | 22:00 |
| Pali | next is hildon-application-manager | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 22:00 |
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| Pali | ok, so what to do with hildon-application-manager? | 22:02 |
| merlin1991 | the version in testing is from Sun, 29 Apr 2012 | 22:03 |
| merlin1991 | so I'd go for well tested? | 22:03 |
| freemangordon | what is fixed in -testing compared to -stable? | 22:03 |
| Pali | testing: 1:2.2.72-5 stable: 1:2.2.72-4 | 22:03 |
| merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/source/17c6a728be8dd9def69eced62880767733656713:debian/changelog#L14-29 | 22:03 |
| Pali | I think that these changes are safe | 22:04 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 22:04 |
| Pali | or are there any know problems? | 22:04 |
| merlin1991 | not that I know of | 22:04 |
| Pali | ok, than add it | 22:04 |
| freemangordon | the only thing was the speed, but that should wait a bit for -stable | 22:04 |
| Pali | yes, thats not in -testing | 22:04 |
| silviof | pong! | 22:05 |
| Pali | next it hildon-desktop | 22:05 |
| freemangordon | silviof: there's a eeting going on here :) | 22:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: removing the PC Suite message will be good | 22:05 |
| freemangordon | meeting even | 22:05 |
| Pali | I think that already decided to do not add it | 22:05 |
| freemangordon | yep, it is buggy | 22:05 |
| Pali | sixwheeledbeast: it is not 100% fixed yet | 22:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ah | 22:05 |
| Pali | only my last patch removing it completely and this is not in -testing | 22:05 |
| sixwheeledbeast | ok | 22:05 |
| freemangordon | ok, ke-recv | 22:06 |
| freemangordon | buggy afaik | 22:06 |
| Pali | same, do not add it | 22:06 |
| merlin1991 | libcpaboutcssu simply goes in :D | 22:06 |
| merlin1991 | iirc it's just a name added | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | wait, weren't there some differences? | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | in marketing messages | 22:07 |
| Pali | Use dpkg-query for reading CSSU version (instead dpkg -l shell parsing) | 22:07 |
| Pali | and added luf | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | oh, ok | 22:07 |
| Pali | this is safe, add it | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:08 |
| Pali | next is libhildon | 22:08 |
| Pali | * PannableArea: always hide horizontal scrollbar if HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_VERT is set. | 22:09 |
| freemangordon | sounds safe | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | that is a safe change that is over a year old | 22:10 |
| Pali | arcean? | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | Pali: it's been in -testing since ages | 22:10 |
| Pali | ok | 22:10 |
| Pali | than add it | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | libhildonfm | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | this is tricky | 22:11 |
| luf | why that? | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | luf: ^^^. | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | did that have some dependencies? | 22:11 |
| luf | I don't think that libhildonfm has dependencies. | 22:12 |
| Pali | obex: obtain icon and name from bluez 4.X using dbus (gconf disabled) | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | like obexd and a plugin? | 22:12 |
| Pali | it is working with stock bluez? | 22:12 |
| Pali | I think that yes, but I'm not sure now | 22:12 |
| freemangordon | do we have any other bluez? | 22:12 |
| luf | Pali: yes. | 22:12 |
| luf | It has previously support for bluez 3.X | 22:13 |
| Pali | in stock maemo we have bluez 4.X? | 22:13 |
| Pali | or 3.X? | 22:13 |
| luf | AFAIK 4.66 | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | but I think we should update obexd as well and what-that-plugin-name-was | 22:14 |
| Pali | so current code in -stable not working due to too new bluez, right? | 22:14 |
| luf | Pali: I worked on upgarding to 4.99 or 4.101 | 22:14 |
| luf | obexd is not dependency for libhildonfm | 22:14 |
| luf | It's using soime gnome vfs (the older - gnomevfs) | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | yes, but for BT file browsing it is needed iirc | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | and this sits in -testing since forever | 22:15 |
| luf | freemangordon: stock obexd is enough I think. | 22:15 |
| Pali | ok, what about postpone all bluetooth changes for next stable? | 22:15 |
| Pali | so they go at once | 22:16 |
| merlin1991 | the libhildonfm changes require osso-gnomevfs-extra | 22:16 |
| luf | 67bbe2d: Correctly decide on mmc card type (external or internal) | 22:16 |
| luf | Not only bluez change there. | 22:16 |
| merlin1991 | which came with Tmaemo8 | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | I'd say add that to -stable now, so we can focus on newer stuff | 22:16 |
| luf | merlin1991: correct | 22:16 |
| Pali | merlin1991: than please add depends: in debian/control | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | I see no point to postpone things that sit in -testing for more than an year | 22:17 |
| Pali | ok | 22:17 |
| Pali | so then add it to -stable | 22:17 |
| luf | If I remeber there were no bug reported to libhildonfm. | 22:17 |
| merlin1991 | that means libhildonfm and osso-gnome-vfs-extra | 22:18 |
| luf | The worst case is that Bluetooth browsing will be still disabled ;) | 22:18 |
| luf | merlin1991: +1 | 22:19 |
| freemangordon | +1 | 22:19 |
| Pali | ok +1 | 22:20 |
| Pali | but add correct depends in debian/control | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | Pali: there is no dependency, it is a plugin | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | if it is missing, nothing bad will happen | 22:21 |
| Pali | ok | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | but you won;t be able to browse BT devices | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | luf: correct? | 22:21 |
| luf | freemangordon: exactly | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | what about obexd? | 22:22 |
| Pali | luf, will it work without new obexd? | 22:22 |
| luf | obexd has dependencies for rtcom-xyz (I forget the name) | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | I transferred 600 MB avi a few days ago :D | 22:22 |
| merlin1991 | rtcom-evenlogger-async | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | via BT | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | I'd say add it | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | I a not sure it is tested enough with stock obexd | 22:23 |
| luf | rtcom-eventlogger-async | 22:23 |
| luf | obexd has a lot of improvements. I'm not sure about testing base ... | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | it is in -testing since more than a year afaik | 22:23 |
| luf | Pali: I don't understand the question | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | yep current obexd in testing is there sinde Tmaemo8 | 22:23 |
| Pali | luf: will osso-gnome-something and hildonfm work without new obexd? | 22:24 |
| luf | I think so. | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | we don't know ;) | 22:24 |
| Pali | I think that we can postpone this package for another release | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | which one? | 22:25 |
| luf | freemangordon: I'm pretty sure. | 22:25 |
| Pali | obexd | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | the reason? | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/obexd/commits/9af69c8bfb21e14aaf642ecdd948294c8bb30d55 | 22:25 |
| Pali | need to release & fix security & CVE problems | 22:25 |
| Pali | asap | 22:25 |
| Pali | new -stable do not have to be big | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | Pali: sure, but BT stuff is not tested with stock obexd | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | so we should either include it as a bunch or not include it at all | 22:26 |
| Pali | is there anything other? or only obexd? | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | rtcom-eventlogger-async | 22:26 |
| luf | freemangordon: libhildonfm doesn't need new obexd. | 22:26 |
| Pali | luf, if you are sure, than better to not include another 2 new packages (obexd & rtcom) | 22:27 |
| freemangordon | it is not if luf is sure or not, it has been in -testing like that | 22:28 |
| freemangordon | *has not* | 22:28 |
| luf | freemangordon: you tested it with stock obexd I think. | 22:28 |
| Pali | if there will be problem in new -stable it is better to have small changes | 22:28 |
| Pali | for finding and fixing bugs | 22:28 |
| merlin1991 | so we'll scratch libhildonfm for now and go on | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 22:29 |
| freemangordon | libxml2? | 22:29 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I'd agree with Pali. There can always be another release later. | 22:29 |
| merlin1991 | cve stuff iirc | 22:29 |
| Pali | ok, so libhildonfm and osso-something, rtcom and obexd will not be included | 22:30 |
| luf | ok | 22:30 |
| Pali | libxml2, there is new upstream version with cve fixed | 22:30 |
| Pali | I think this should go to -stable | 22:30 |
| freemangordon | yep | 22:30 |
| luf | needs to be done with libz AFAIK | 22:30 |
| luf | zlib :) | 22:30 |
| freemangordon | just remind me, was | 22:30 |
| freemangordon | oh, yes | 22:31 |
| Pali | zlib is not in list | 22:31 |
| Pali | so add it? | 22:31 |
| freemangordon | I was going to ask about some shitty dependency | 22:31 |
| freemangordon | Pali: yes | 22:31 |
| freemangordon | and building that is tricky | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | nah | 22:31 |
| merlin1991 | but both need to go in | 22:31 |
| luf | so let's remove libxml2 od you end up with bootlooping ;) | 22:31 |
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| freemangordon | just copy the libs from -testing | 22:32 |
| merlin1991 | luf: bootloops I'd detect before releasing a stable to the wild :D | 22:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: backupmenu is in maemo-extras since today | 22:32 |
| freemangordon | but yes, both libs should be upgraded at once | 22:32 |
| Pali | merlin1991: add them both | 22:33 |
| merlin1991 | okay next up maemo-security-certman | 22:33 |
| Pali | and some testing before releasing -stable | 22:33 |
| freemangordon | that is in, for sure, it fixes AGPS | 22:33 |
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| Pali | yes, certman should be included | 22:34 |
| merlin1991 | okay, it's in | 22:34 |
| Pali | next package is modest | 22:35 |
| Pali | this is skipped | 22:35 |
| freemangordon | wait | 22:35 |
| Pali | or no? | 22:35 |
| freemangordon | the one in -thumb works ok for me and I think it is the same version as in -testing | 22:35 |
| Pali | I would vote for downgrading it to PR1.3 version | 22:36 |
| Pali | :D | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | heh | 22:36 |
| Pali | seriously, better to not touch it | 22:36 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:36 |
| merlin1991 | with modest we better wait what happens with the new one that is going into -testing | 22:37 |
| freemangordon | ok | 22:37 |
| freemangordon | modest-l10n? | 22:37 |
| freemangordon | the same as modest? | 22:37 |
| Pali | I think that modest-l10n does not make sense to update | 22:37 |
| merlin1991 | modest-l10n is only required when we update modest ... | 22:37 |
| Pali | or no? | 22:38 |
| merlin1991 | it makes no sense to update | 22:38 |
| Pali | git log | 22:38 |
| Pali | a... it make sense | 22:38 |
| Pali | Show english strings instead of untranstaled mcen_fi_* in all language files | 22:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* | 22:39 |
| Pali | merlin1991: so I think we can include it | 22:40 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 22:40 |
| Pali | next package is mp-fremantle-community-pr | 22:41 |
| freemangordon | heh | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | nice one | 22:41 |
| Pali | so we know what to do :D | 22:41 |
| Pali | next package is openssl | 22:41 |
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| freemangordon | openssl has a cve fix | 22:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | waaait, what about this vulnerability that killed xchat? on this weird string | 22:41 |
| merlin1991 | that has once cve fix | 22:41 |
| Pali | no CVE fixes | 22:41 |
| Pali | only one change: fixed debug package | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | oh, that one frees some space in rootfs | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | I'd say include it | 22:42 |
| freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/openssl/commit/7e80cfba6c49c5c36fa510ba1e713c16d60245c8 | 22:43 |
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| merlin1991 | ah true, goes in | 22:43 |
| Pali | ok, include it | 22:43 |
| Pali | next is osso-calculator | 22:43 |
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| freemangordon | is it in -stable? | 22:43 |
| merlin1991 | iirc there is still a bug | 22:43 |
| Pali | version in testing fixing bug 12514 | 22:44 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12514 Calculator program, percentage operations | 22:44 |
| Pali | but it is still not fixed :-( | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | so, 2.0-1+0cssu3 is only in -devel? | 22:45 |
| freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-calculator/source/9610c7da518654011834d5a04cbc91635d9d6ab0:debian/changelog | 22:45 |
| Pali | in testing is 2.0-1+0cssu3 | 22:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | while your on openssl just in case anyone missed it. I posted a list of all the patches for CVE's related to Maemo. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1428683&postcount=13 | 22:46 |
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| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, I saw that | 22:46 |
| sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: I know :) | 22:46 |
| Pali | commit patches directly to git | 22:46 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I was thinking of others :) | 22:46 |
| freemangordon | Pali: hmm? | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | cherry-pick? | 22:47 |
| Pali | about calculator: include it? | 22:47 |
| Pali | freemangordon: about openssl: yes | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I'd say no, if it is still buggy | 22:47 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ ? | 22:48 |
| Pali | -testing version adding also top_application dbus call | 22:49 |
| Pali | which is used by maemo launcher (or what...) | 22:49 |
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| Pali | I think we can include it, if you agreee | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | I'd still would like to see the bug fixed .. | 22:51 |
| merlin1991 | but we can add it in since nothing gets worse, it only has some fixes | 22:52 |
| Pali | I do not know, but that bug is partially fixed | 22:52 |
| Pali | -testing adding top_application dbus call | 22:52 |
| Pali | merlin1991: add it | 22:52 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 22:52 |
| Pali | next package is osso-gnome-vfs2 | 22:53 |
| Pali | testing: 2.16.3-2osso12+0m5+0cssu1.1 stable: 2.16.3-2osso12+0m5+0cssu1 | 22:54 |
| Pali | I have no idea what was fixed in testing | 22:54 |
| Pali | * Raised version number | 22:54 |
| Pali | Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:48:40 +0300 | 22:54 |
| Pali | no diff | 22:54 |
| merlin1991 | I know why | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | that was thumb combiled on Mohammads scratchbox | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | *compiled* | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | that's why he had to raise the version number | 22:56 |
| Pali | only for testing? | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | so, the version in -stable is thumb-compiled? | 22:56 |
| Pali | or also for stable? | 22:56 |
| merlin1991 | the version in stable is not thumb compiled | 22:57 |
| merlin1991 | so there is nothing todo there | 22:57 |
| Pali | ok, than we do not need to include it | 22:57 |
| Pali | next package is osso-xterm | 22:57 |
| freemangordon | well, I think it is better to include it, so it won't show next time as a diff | 22:57 |
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| freemangordon | "* Enable portrait mode" ? | 22:58 |
| merlin1991 | osso-xterm has portrait mode and a fix for the scrollbacklines setting | 22:59 |
| merlin1991 | but the portrait mode would require a newer busybox aswell | 22:59 |
| Pali | that fix for the scrollbacklines is needed. if someone specify negative osso-xterm cannot be started | 22:59 |
| Pali | for portrait mode: when new busybox is not used it will print a lot of empty lines when roating | 23:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | how's messybox related to xterm? can't I start xterm with whatever shell I like? | 23:00 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: messybox does not properly handle SIGWINCH | 23:00 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: you can, but rotating will cause chaning xterm size which send SIGWINCH | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's no reason to not fix xterm | 23:01 |
| Pali | and busybox has bug in that | 23:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then set it on blacklist for rotation | 23:01 |
| Pali | merlin1991: can you include only that two scrollback patches for stable? | 23:02 |
| merlin1991 | sure | 23:02 |
| merlin1991 | I think that's better | 23:02 |
| Pali | ok, do that | 23:02 |
| merlin1991 | okay goes in without the portrait enabling | 23:02 |
| Pali | yes | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | :-S | 23:02 |
| sixwheeledbeast | But that would cause issues if removed from blacklist, like on my device. | 23:02 |
| freemangordon | it won;t, as it does not rotate by default | 23:03 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Ah forcedrotation then | 23:03 |
| Pali | we will include that portrait patch together with new busybox in next release | 23:03 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 23:03 |
| Pali | ok, next package is qt4-x11 | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still stricly discouraging messing with messybox | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | user is fre to use a better shell that stock messybox | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | free* | 23:04 |
| merlin1991 | we cannot update qt4-x11 | 23:04 |
| freemangordon | in stable is 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu7 | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | yes, we can't | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu8 would require updated hildon-desktop | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 23:05 |
| merlin1991 | so that has to wait untill we have a stable current hildon-desktop again | 23:05 |
| Pali | ok | 23:05 |
| freemangordon | vte | 23:06 |
| Pali | next package is status-area-orientationlock-applet | 23:06 |
| freemangordon | oh, yes | 23:06 |
| merlin1991 | not possible either | 23:07 |
| merlin1991 | would require portrait lock code in h-d | 23:07 |
| Pali | ok | 23:07 |
| Pali | then last package is vte | 23:07 |
| Pali | * Do not allow setting negative scrollback lines | 23:07 |
| Pali | include it | 23:07 |
| freemangordon | isn't it related to osso-xterm? | 23:07 |
| Pali | hm... it looks like this can be enoigh | 23:08 |
| merlin1991 | we're going to include that | 23:08 |
| freemangordon | ok | 23:09 |
| luf | what about libpng? :) | 23:09 |
| Pali | merlin1991: maybe we do not need to include osso-xterm changes | 23:09 |
| Pali | going to look at it | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | we need the osso-xterm settings aswell | 23:09 |
| merlin1991 | iirc | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | luf: next time, I hope we'll have a maintainer soon so -stable will quickly catch with -testing | 23:10 |
| luf | ok | 23:10 |
| freemangordon | it is my pet as well :) | 23:10 |
| merlin1991 | before you guys start running off, I have a few questions about packages for -testing: mce should it go in? upstart what is that data=writeback change? ke-recv is the current -devel stable? h-d is that stable? and should osso-systemui-powerkeymenu go into the next -testing? | 23:12 |
| Pali | merlin1991: vte patch is enough for that | 23:12 |
| Pali | osso-xterm will not crash (vte return back on invalid args) | 23:12 |
| freemangordon | I think osso-systemui-powerkeymenu is ready for -testing, no bugs I am aware of | 23:13 |
| freemangordon | h-d too | 23:13 |
| Pali | if you do not want to change osso-xterm branches and splitting patches, osso-xterm is not needed to include | 23:13 |
| merlin1991 | okay then we'll add only vte | 23:13 |
| Pali | merlin1991, for data=writeback look man mount. before it was used only for /home, now it is used for all ext3 & ext4 partitions | 23:14 |
| Pali | (e.g. ext3/ext4 on sd card) | 23:14 |
| Pali | ke-recv in devel working fine on my phone and people on TMO reported that it fixing bug of renaming mount point | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: about mce - I think we should first fix "bug 5" along with some more upstream compatibility changes. if we agree with Pali on how to proceed with buggy /proc/cpuinfo :) | 23:15 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/5 maemopad starts | 23:15 |
| freemangordon | povbot: shut up | 23:15 |
| povbot | freemangordon: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. | 23:15 |
| luf | Is the curl in -stable? I don't remember. | 23:15 |
| merlin1991 | luf: yes curl is in stbale | 23:16 |
| Pali | we should wait what will happen on LKML about /proc/cpuinfo | 23:16 |
| luf | Thanks. | 23:16 |
| freemangordon | Pali: I can give you a hint - the patch will be rejected | 23:16 |
| merlin1991 | can you link me the thread? | 23:17 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: about /proc/cpuinfo? | 23:17 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 23:18 |
| Pali | [PATCH] ARM: /proc/cpuinfo: Use DT machine name when possible | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/18/853 | 23:18 |
| Pali | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/18/853 | 23:18 |
| freemangordon | Pali: so far all but pavel reacted negatively | 23:19 |
| freemangordon | ok, lets discuss -stable maintainership a bit, ok? | 23:21 |
| Pali | merlin1991: and for next cssu-testing we should use new version of enabler | 23:21 |
| Pali | new vesion is in branch "split" | 23:22 |
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| merlin1991 | okay Pali I'll try it | 23:27 |
| merlin1991 | so -stable maintainership any pointers? | 23:27 |
| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: ^^^? | 23:27 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Well I don't want to see CSSU-S disappear. If I can help I will | 23:28 |
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| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: "the help" consists of releasing updates, can you do it? | 23:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | What do I need to do? | 23:29 |
| merlin1991 | setup a clean scratchbox bang your head against each and everyone in here when deciding what goes in, actually build that stuff and upload it | 23:30 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc keep track what new things evolve | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | and maintain stable branches on gitorious | 23:30 |
| freemangordon | i.e. merge -testing to -stable, build the stble branch, upload to the repo | 23:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Well I have never done any of that before, if that answers your question ... oh england scored | 23:31 |
| freemangordon | good for them | 23:32 |
| sixwheeledbeast | helps if your english ;) | 23:32 |
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| freemangordon | well, I'd propose merlin1991 to open a thread on TMO and a mail to maemo-developers or maemo-community MLs - "Maintainer needed". | 23:36 |
| freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: post on it, saying you volunteer, lets wait a week or so to see if there are other people interested | 23:36 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: lets have another meeting next Thursday, if other are ok too and decide based on the result. | 23:36 |
| freemangordon | ok? | 23:36 |
| merlin1991 | sounds good | 23:36 |
| sixwheeledbeast | :nod: | 23:37 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: also, please post on cssu-stable thread - " new update coming soon" :) | 23:37 |
| freemangordon | lets make some PR | 23:37 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | Yay, CSSU-S :D | 23:38 |
| merlin1991 | so now I'll get some dinner | 23:38 |
| merlin1991 | I'm starving here | 23:38 |
| Sicelo | what is the modest bug? from user perspective | 23:39 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: sure, have you dinner first :P | 23:39 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ (modest) ? | 23:39 |
| Pali | modest bug? :D it is not working | 23:41 |
| Pali | ok | 23:41 |
| Pali | problem with modest is that there are 3 divergented git branches | 23:41 |
| Pali | master, PR1.3, PR1.2 | 23:41 |
| Pali | cssu is based on master branch | 23:41 |
| freemangordon | Sicelo: I use modest a lot and can't report anything bad | 23:41 |
| Sicelo | ok. since i moved to Testing, i haven't really noticed any problems to be honesy | 23:41 |
| Pali | and master branch does not have all features which have PR1.3 or PR1.2 branches | 23:42 |
| Pali | and master branch has some bugs which was fixed only in PR1.2 or PR1.3 branches | 23:42 |
| freemangordon | Pali: like what? I think you picked "leave on sever"? | 23:42 |
| Pali | I picked some commits which cherry-picked | 23:42 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:43 |
| freemangordon | what else is missing? | 23:43 |
| Pali | I run script which take all commits from PR1.3 branch and applied it to master | 23:43 |
| Pali | but only very few commits was able to apply | 23:43 |
| Pali | I did not do anything manually | 23:43 |
| xes | freemangordon: "can't report anything bad?" How many emails do you have in your inbox? | 23:43 |
| Pali | just simple script which skipped each commit which did not applyed | 23:43 |
| freemangordon | xes: tons of, 2 pop3 and one imap | 23:44 |
| Pali | do you have 70000 emails in one folder? | 23:44 |
| Pali | this is average, not lot of emails | 23:44 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 23:45 |
| freemangordon | lemme check | 23:45 |
| xes | with my modest takes about 3 minutes to update the inbox folder and in the meanwhile is impossible to open any email | 23:45 |
| Pali | same problem here | 23:45 |
| freemangordon | how to count the number of emails? | 23:45 |
| Pali | xes: if you have time, can you test different cssu versions of modest? | 23:45 |
| Pali | not only cssu, but also stock PR1.3 | 23:46 |
| Pali | or PR1.2 | 23:46 |
| Pali | it could be great if we know that this problem is really in older version | 23:46 |
| Pali | and if (somehow) modest from PR1.2/1.3 is faster, than we will look at these branches | 23:46 |
| freemangordon | isn't it better to simply oprofile? | 23:47 |
| dos1 | 100k mails here and two devices - one with cssu-thumb and one with pr1.3.1; let's see | 23:47 |
| Pali | freemangordon: what you will do with libc6 in thumb? | 23:47 |
| freemangordon | revert to ARM | 23:47 |
| Pali | ok | 23:47 |
| freemangordon | I hope I will have time this weekend | 23:48 |
| Pali | luf: do you have time to look for bluez? | 23:48 |
| Pali | I commented some programs (which cannot be compiled) in bluez git | 23:48 |
| Pali | it could be nice to see it -devel repo | 23:48 |
| luf | I checked one place but I need to go into my devel env. | 23:49 |
| Pali | ok | 23:49 |
| Pali | I do not have any free time now :-( so I do not know what I can do in next weeks, months... | 23:49 |
| luf | Hopefully during this weekend. | 23:49 |
| xes | Pali: please, could you point me at the exact modest version you suppose could have a different behavior? | 23:49 |
| freemangordon | Pali: so, you think upstream will accept /proc/cpuinfo patch? | 23:50 |
| Pali | xes, maybe in pr1.2, pr1.3, cssu-stable, cssu-testing and cssu-devel | 23:50 |
| Pali | do not know version strings... | 23:50 |
| Pali | freemangordon: no idea, but reported 0000000 for revision and serial number is really bad | 23:51 |
| freemangordon | xes: I think you can check the bersions on mo | 23:51 |
| Pali | maybe they will remove that keys, or should fix them | 23:51 |
| freemangordon | I think they'll simply remove them | 23:51 |
| xes | ..i would avoid the most dangerous bugs ;) | 23:52 |
| Pali | most dangerous bug is existance of modest | 23:52 |
| freemangordon | xes: http://maemo.org/packages/view/modest/ | 23:52 |
| xes | now i'm using modest_3.90.7-13.1 | 23:53 |
| Pali | btw, is there any way to teach maemo.org/packages to import packages from cssu/stable/testing/devel? | 23:53 |
| Pali | and why maemo.org server timeouts? | 23:53 |
| freemangordon | Pali: why do we need that? | 23:54 |
| Pali | quick download links or see which version is in which repo... | 23:54 |
| freemangordon | I guess we can, by adding repos | 23:54 |
| xes | Pali: timeouts? | 23:54 |
| freemangordon | wfm | 23:54 |
| Pali | wget maemo.org | 23:55 |
| Pali | Connecting to maemo.org (maemo.org)|213.128.137.20|:80... | 23:55 |
| Pali | and nothing... | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | on a side note: good to see marxian active again :) | 23:55 |
| Pali | I cannot connect to maemo.org again | 23:55 |
| Pali | this happends very often | 23:55 |
| freemangordon | something on your side I'd say | 23:56 |
| Pali | ok, going to try another location | 23:56 |
| xes | Pali: i have no notice about timeout problems | 23:56 |
| Pali | same problem on 3 different locations in Prague | 23:57 |
| Pali | from Slovakia everything looks like OK | 23:58 |
| Pali | when connecting to port 80 I'm getting: Connection timed out. | 23:59 |
| Pali | any idea how to debug where is problem? | 23:59 |
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