IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2013-12-22

merlin1991ah yeah, before: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/usb_fix/20131217_002.jpg after: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/usb_fix/13120007.jpg00:09
merlin1991and the not so successfull intermediate:  http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/usb_fix/13120005.jpg :)00:10
freemangordonmerlin1991: oh, so instead of releasing the new cssu-t you do soldering work? :P00:11
merlin1991freemangordon: I should release it on the 24th shouldn't I? ;)00:15
merlin1991I'll probably do it tomorrow, all that's missing is the changelog for the mp00:15
merlin1991I've even done the wiki already http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Changelog#Tmaemo900:15
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hbib3a release on christmas would be nice :)00:32
merlin1991hbib3: I'll probably do it tomorrow though :)00:34
hbib3nevertheless every n900 user will have a pre-christmas present :)00:37
sixwheeledbeastevery n900 user?01:01
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hbib3to be correct: every non-thumb cssu n900 user :D01:03
sixwheeledbeasttry again01:07
kerioevery cssu-testing user01:09
merlin1991yeah it's actually every non cssu-stable user01:09
merlin1991since the mp will override the -thumb mp untill freemangordon releases one on top01:09
merlin1991and we don't talk about non-cssu users in here ;)01:10
sixwheeledbeast:)01:10
sixwheeledbeastyep exactly CSSU-T users only :(01:10
hbib3but i don't see any reason why an average n900 user shouldn't install cssu-testing01:12
hbib3i did never experience any issues01:12
merlin1991sixwheeledbeast: it's cssu-t and cssu-thumb users01:15
sixwheeledbeastmerlin1991: yep, CSSU-thumb is based on CSSU-T, I know.01:16
sixwheeledbeasthbib3: it's still "testing", average n900 users are a different breed to "average users".01:17
sixwheeledbeastJust because you haven't had any issues doesn't mean there isn't any either. That's the point of long term testing and bug reporting.01:24
hbib3sixwheeledbeast: yep, that's true, but I think if you are nowadays a n900 user, you know what your are doing (familiar with GNU/Linux) and can risk a testing flavour ...01:29
hbib3but that's just my opinion ;)01:30
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sixwheeledbeasthbib3: not necessarily, I have a CSSU-thumb "testing/dev device" and a CSSU-S "daily device". I can't do with any downtime on my daily device so I stay on "stable". I do agree that it seems pointless to install CSSU-T without thumb which was mentioned recently.01:37
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freemangordonmerlin1991: seems your repo is down12:15
freemangordonmerlin1991: hmm, the whole server is down, not only the repo12:19
freemangordonhmm seems up now12:23
sixwheeledbeastDID someone pull the plug :P12:32
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merlin1991freemangordon: his is intresting, if the server was down when you wrote to me I wouldn't be able to read it because my irc client runs there :D15:37
freemangordonmerlin1991: I know, but still15:41
merlin1991blame hetzner ;)15:42
freemangordonyeah :)15:42
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freemangordonmerlin1991: BTW do we have any clue why is exactly HAM so slow?16:03
freemangordonmaybe I should fire oprofile against it16:04
sixwheeledbeastslow generally or currently?16:08
freemangordongenerally16:08
freemangordoncurrently it is waaaay better than stock16:08
freemangordon(current version that is)16:08
sixwheeledbeastuuncoded icons in control files don't help IMO, but I would rather have them than not.16:17
ShadowJKI suspect icon decode time is very small fraction of cpu time spent16:28
merlin1991Pali did run some profiling on ham and narrowed it down to a single function, we never looked deep into it though16:57
freemangordonmerlin1991: any idea which function?16:57
merlin1991it's somewhere in this chanlog :D16:58
freemangordonyeah :D16:58
merlin1991[17.02.12 13:32:58] <Pali> [00:03] freemangordon: BTW why is HAM so slow? --> I found reason: Function in apt-worker which get list of all packages is too SLOW. And this function is called every time when HAM started, when HAM doing update, after installing/uninstalling/updating package. If somebody can optimalize this function HAM will work faster.16:59
freemangordongood16:59
freemangordonnow we only need the name of that functions16:59
freemangordonfunction even16:59
merlin1991he didn't write the actual function name :D17:00
freemangordonI see17:00
merlin1991I just checked the log17:00
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freemangordon~rescueos17:20
infobotsomebody said rescueos was http://n900.quitesimple.org/rescueOS/17:20
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sixwheeledbeastalso see http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2013-10-28.log.html#t2013-10-28T10:54:15 which I found searching through chanlog.17:50
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freemangordonhmm18:48
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kerio~seen luf21:42
infobotluf <~luf@80.188.29.62> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 13d 8h 50m 9s ago, saying: 'Because there is silence :D'.21:42
kerioshit21:42
kerioi wanted his help to set up bluetooth pan21:42
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