IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Monday, 2013-12-09

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* DocScrutinizer05 introduces radekp to freemangordon and the channel at alrge11:31
DocScrutinizer05one more 2kernel hacker"11:31
radekphi freemangordon, old sucker! :-)11:31
freemangordonradekp: hi!11:31
DocScrutinizer05hehehehe11:32
radekp:)11:32
DocScrutinizer05told him11:32
radekpis this common greeting in this channel?11:32
DocScrutinizer05so now you both became friends, I hope you will synergize your efforts11:32
freemangordonradekp: gimme 10 minutes to resend a patch to LKML, I hope we can have a little discussion after that11:33
DocScrutinizer05radekp: not really, except when I have my funny 5 minutes11:33
freemangordonyeah11:33
DocScrutinizer05VMware security update: http://www.vmware.com/security/advisories/VMSA-2013-0014.html11:35
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DocScrutinizer05btw @ pali, freemangordon: [2013-12-06 18:05:53] <JimmyDB> The problem I am running in to is that I want to jump back and forth between making changes and testing the outcome, but the i2c commands are being blocked since the drivers are loaded for the camera...11:40
DocScrutinizer05[2013-12-06 18:09:54] <JimmyDB> I should note, the driver is not a module that is listed by lsmod etc11:40
DocScrutinizer05[2013-12-06 19:06:09] <gabrbedd> JimmyDB: i2cset -f -y11:40
DocScrutinizer05[2013-12-06 19:06:32] <gabrbedd> The -f param says, "Yeah, I know that a driver is managing it... but stand back! I know what I'm doing!!"11:40
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freemangordonok, patch sent12:15
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freemangordonradekp: so, you want to help with kernel hacking?12:15
freemangordonwhat we try to do is to have 3.13 and up successfully booting maemo5 with full functionality12:16
freemangordonon n900 that is, but it'll work on neo900 as well, at least that's waht is the hope IMO12:16
freemangordonradekp: so far we have most of the stuff working, besides audio and camera afaik12:17
freemangordonwith 3.13-rc2 that is12:18
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radekpfreemangordon: i was using 3.7 as stable kernel on GTA04 and i can use 3.12 - but this one has much worse power management...12:20
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freemangordonradekp: with the upcomming DT we can't use anything < 3.14 if we want to have upstream support IMO12:21
radekpfreemangordon: is power management working properly with these kernels?12:21
freemangordonshould be12:21
freemangordonPali: hi! got the audio (almost) working) :D. there is a nasty bug in tlv320aic3x.c12:22
radekpthen this can be interesting - on GTA04 there are big problems with PM - the phone eats so much power that you cant use it more then one day (sometimes even one day)12:22
Palifreemangordon: hi! nice for audio :-)12:22
freemangordonradekp: maemo is using different power management to what I know is used on gta0412:23
freemangordonit does not suspend to RAM12:23
Palifreemangordon: about pm, in upstream kernel is only arch/arm/mach-omap2/omap-pm-noop.c12:23
radekpfreemangordon: i think we (userspace developers) would be happy to use it the same way (without suspend to ram)12:23
Palionly noop pm :-(12:23
freemangordonPali: I guess we can forward-port nemo PM12:24
Palithere is missing omap-pm-srf12:24
freemangordonor KP PM12:24
freemangordonI know a bit about SR driver :P12:24
freemangordonwill port it when it comes to it12:24
Palifreemangordon: problem is that kernel drivers not using omap-pm12:24
radekpfreemangordon: but i think our kernel is missing important parts/drivers for this - IIRC it's using ~90mA with screen dimmed12:24
Paliand something from cpufreq12:24
freemangordonPali: will fix it when it comes to it12:25
freemangordonlets have it working without PM first12:25
Palior maybe omap-pm was integrated into some omap cpufreq driver12:25
freemangordonI *think* the clock FW is what is used in upstream12:25
Palisee file Documentation/arm/OMAP/omap_pm12:25
freemangordonand pm_runtime_... stuff12:25
PaliThis document describes the *temporary* OMAP PM interface.12:26
freemangordonradekp: we have a reference kernel to use, that is the stock Nokia kernel and its derivatives (like kernel-power)12:27
Palifreemangordon: when ready, commit audio patches to your git repo12:28
freemangordonso we can port whatever needed IMO12:28
freemangordonPali: I was thinking to send a patch upstream, but ok, will do12:28
Paliand I remember that there is some initial work for highpass filter in tlv320aic3x codec driver12:28
freemangordonPali: btw I'll need your help on that one12:28
Paliok12:28
freemangordonhow to test the sound?12:29
Paliuse aplay12:29
Palior paplay12:29
Palior mplayer12:29
radekpfreemangordon: well one of my ideas was to use this kernel and port it on GTA04, but i am not kernel devel - i only do some userspace things, so this is likely above my skill12:29
freemangordonradekp: well, DocScrutinizer05 introduced you as a kernel dev :P12:29
freemangordonPali: is there a chance any of those to blow the speakers?12:30
radekpfreemangordon: ohh - should be non-kernel dev :)12:30
freemangordonyeah, got it12:30
radekpfreemangordon: the GTA04 kernel is mostly Neil Brown's work12:30
Palifreemangordon: play sound at low volume, I really do not know... ask Doc about HW parts...12:31
freemangordoni see12:31
freemangordonPali: any idea why tpa6130 i2c could give a NAK if not after power-down? i.e. i2c write gives -121 if I reboot from KP to 3.1312:37
freemangordonthe headphone AMP that is12:37
Palimyabe some reinit of i2c is needed?12:37
freemangordonPali: also any hint how to use mplayer to play to speakers?12:37
Palior some other gpio is need to set?12:38
Palimplayer -ao alsa12:38
freemangordongpios should be fine, I've checked them12:38
Paliand you need to find documentation how to use alsa in mplyaer12:38
freemangordonok12:38
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luffreemangordon: hi, I'm just curios have you tested bluetooth with the new kernel?12:44
freemangordonit works, but spits some errors12:44
freemangordonluf: hi! long time no see12:45
luffreemangordon: I know :( I'm overloaded. But I'm looking for some time to be back in maemo devel.12:45
freemangordongreat!12:45
luffreemangordon: bluez from stock or the newer from me?12:45
freemangordonluf: the one in CSSU :D12:46
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luffreemangordon: you scared me :) Do you know the version? Because I never publish it into CSSU release :)12:50
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freemangordonluf: ii  bluez                                               4.60-0maemo1.6+0m512:50
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freemangordonI guess that is stock12:51
lufCool it's stock one.12:51
freemangordondammit, why there is no sound? :(12:51
lufBecause there is silence :D12:52
freemangordonhmm, I guess you're right :D12:52
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: (I2C NAK) usual way chips answer a "wakeup from suspend", if they know such mode12:52
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it is tpa6130a2, the headset amplifier12:53
DocScrutinizer05so?12:53
freemangordonand it happens only if I reboot from kp to 3.13, not after power-up12:53
freemangordonhmm, wait, it has a SW shutdown12:54
DocScrutinizer05what can I say?12:54
DocScrutinizer05maybe KP tells amp to suspend?12:54
freemangordonbut on the other hand, it just stops the charge-pump in that mode, i2c should be working12:55
DocScrutinizer05which would be a sane thing to do12:55
DocScrutinizer05and maybe mainline kernel has nfc about that - as usual?12:55
freemangordonmaybe, but I assert the HW reset before trying to communicate12:55
jonwilI wont have a N900 dev box going forward in the short term, the one I have now is too old, too crap and too failing to be worth moving when I move so its going to the e-waste recycling12:55
jonwilits an ancient Pentium 412:55
DocScrutinizer05(mainline no clue) would be just one more instance to prove why maemo kernel is better on power saving than the pretty sloppy mainline12:58
DocScrutinizer05just 10 min ago I heard almost same story, about lis302 driver which causes an additional 6mA when you use the one from mainline12:59
DocScrutinizer05mainline drivers are generally suspicious for NOT being optimized for powersaving13:00
DocScrutinizer05that's why we got a maemo kernel13:00
DocScrutinizer05Nokia didn't use maemo kernel patches just to satify NIH13:02
DocScrutinizer05they upstreamed what was possible to upstream (maybe) but generally used "proprietary" patches only when needed since mainline been too crappy13:03
freemangordonPali: any idea what alsamixer -c 0 shows?13:05
freemangordonare those running or configured values?13:05
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: the general concept is: you send chip an I2C command to go to sleep. chip enters low power idle mode and only does one thing: wake up when own address selected on I2C and answer with a NAK13:05
l4m3rxfreemangordon , current values13:06
freemangordonl4m3rx: the point is - does it query kernel for all those sliders, or they are pre-configured?13:06
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: driver needs to handle that and repeat command when NAK answer13:07
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: ok, I'll try to patch it13:07
DocScrutinizer05don't do endless loop! only one NAK allowed13:07
freemangordonok :)13:07
DocScrutinizer05also check why driver doesn't do it already. Most likely driver doesn't know about suspend command either13:08
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: driver does HW power down/up sequence, via _SD pin13:09
DocScrutinizer05also you might want to check datasheet of amp, if it actually works that way13:09
freemangordonalready did13:09
DocScrutinizer05mhm13:09
l4m3rxfreemangordon, if i recall correctly it reads them from /dev13:09
DocScrutinizer05when chip does this wakeup and answer NAK thing, this is documented in datasheet13:09
freemangordonl4m3rx: thanks13:10
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it is not supposed to answer with nak13:10
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DocScrutinizer05then it's a bug13:10
DocScrutinizer05culprit somewhere else13:10
freemangordon:nod:13:10
DocScrutinizer05maybe I2C interface of SoC lacks proper init13:11
freemangordoncould be13:11
Palialsamixer -c 0 shows first hw card13:11
Pali-c 1 second ...13:11
freemangordonPali: sure, but I don;t see "Ext Spk" control there13:12
Pali-c default will show default (which is fake/virtual PA)13:12
PaliI had same problem13:12
Palialsamixer does not show all switches13:12
Paliand some have different names as in kernel...13:12
freemangordonexactly13:13
PaliDocScrutinizer05: you know more about alsa, try to help :-)13:13
freemangordonPali: shall I push the audio patch now?13:13
Paliyou can push to your git repo13:14
Paliand I can look at it13:14
freemangordonsure, but do you need it "now"?13:14
freemangordonI mean - do you have time to look at it13:14
freemangordonwell, ok, will push it13:14
DocScrutinizer05alsa is pretty much a mess with names and renames and aliases13:15
DocScrutinizer05and it generally uses names as of chip manuf gave to the pins of chip, nit how the in/out is actually used in a particular platform13:16
DocScrutinizer05not*13:16
DocScrutinizer05can get confusing like hell13:17
DocScrutinizer05when speaker is headphone and earpiece is speaker and aux is earpiece13:17
DocScrutinizer05prolly card0 is tps65950/twl4030? and card1 is 320aic34?13:18
DocScrutinizer05I dunno13:19
DocScrutinizer05don't expect to find any logic when it comes to ALSA mixer names13:19
DocScrutinizer05sure, it probably has *some* logic, just it doesn't hit me13:20
DocScrutinizer05usually 1 or 2 hours of experimenting and checking what does what, and reading datasheets of chips and the names of in- and outputs in there, results in better understanding of what's actually up13:22
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: iiuc, the names are given by the driver, ain't?13:22
DocScrutinizer05usually yes, though I think there's a method for later aliases getting assigned13:23
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freemangordondo you know where those aliases reside?13:23
freemangordonis it some conf file?13:23
DocScrutinizer05ooh, and output of two audio sinks is physically identical on N900, mixing getting done by muting amps13:24
DocScrutinizer05sorry, no idea how exactly this works13:24
DocScrutinizer05ask in openmoko-cdevel maybe, I discussed this stuff with guys who did alsa for gta0213:25
DocScrutinizer05I got a headache when I tried to understand the ALSA sources13:25
DocScrutinizer05it's a terrible mess13:26
DocScrutinizer05you got one name in driver source, and you can override it maybe from bord file?13:26
DocScrutinizer05board*13:26
DocScrutinizer05sorry, can't recall, was too scary to not forget13:27
DocScrutinizer05also too mad and annoying13:27
DocScrutinizer05http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#List_of_controls13:30
DocScrutinizer05see righ col which I did13:30
freemangordonPali: https://gitorious.org/linux-n900/freemangordons-linux-n900/commit/484bac958407b9cee17524be6c8cc64a760b2f3313:38
DocScrutinizer05dang, I shouldn't have read that page again. Welcome my old friend nausea, long time no see13:42
DocScrutinizer05((http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem that is))13:43
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: you might want to ask in #also and #alsa-soc13:46
DocScrutinizer05#alsa even13:46
DocScrutinizer05~seen broonie13:46
infobotbroonie is currently on #oe, last said: 'dol: Right, that's not going to work then - this would be a hardware change.'.13:46
DocScrutinizer05^^^ did some asoc-devel13:47
freemangordonPali: it is "Speaker Function" :D13:49
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Palifreemangordon: ok, when you find where is mapping stored, please tell me it :-)13:49
Palimapping between kernel names and names in amixer/alsamixer13:50
freemangordonYESSSS!!!!13:50
freemangordonI have sound from the media player :D13:50
PaliI already tried to use strace and ltrace on amixer, but nothing...13:50
freemangordonPali: there is no mapping13:50
PaliI have really no idea how amixer invent that names13:51
freemangordonsee aic34_rx51_controls13:51
freemangordonin rx51.c13:51
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Paliok13:51
Palifreemangordon: can you look at amixer -c 0 output on kp52 and on 3.12/3.13 kernel13:52
Paliwhat and how was changed?13:52
PaliI think that some names of channels were renamed13:52
freemangordonPali: it would ba a nightmare, there are more that 50 controls for playback only13:52
Paliand maybe in aic34_rx51_controls needs to be changed13:52
freemangordonyes, but it would be easier to compare the source rather that what alsamixer reports13:53
freemangordons/that/than13:53
Palialready tried it...13:53
Palinot easy13:53
Palibecause old kernel does not support more codecs in one driver13:53
Paliand this was "hacked" in nokia kernel by creating new submodule for controlling second snd device13:54
Palidirectly in rx51.c13:54
Palinow in upstream kernel both codecs using their proper kernel drivers13:54
freemangordonyes13:55
Paliso rx51.c is smaller (duplicate code which is in second b block was removed)13:55
Paliit it one big mess13:55
freemangordonI know that13:55
freemangordonhmm, why mess?13:55
Palilook at amixer -c 0 output :D13:55
Paliand if all those names are not mess...13:56
freemangordonok, there is a sound from the external speaker connected through the jack13:57
freemangordonwe just need to fix the names and add the missing jack functionality13:57
freemangordonand maybe add some notifier chain support in rx51.c, to emulate gpio-switch functionality13:58
freemangordonPali: ^^^13:58
PaliI will send you some patches which I created13:59
freemangordonok14:00
freemangordonPali: btw could you pull rc3?14:00
freemangordonthere is something broken in i2c in rc214:00
freemangordon twl4030: I2C error -110 reading PIH ISR14:01
freemangordonomap_i2c omap_i2c.1: timeout waiting for bus ready14:01
Paliit is fixed in rc3?14:02
Palifreemangordon: I sent some sound rx51 patches to your email address14:02
DocScrutinizer05http://privatepaste.com/02956e7ccf14:02
Palino idea if patches working or not14:02
Palibut you already started hacking rx51 sound, so look at them14:02
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: on stock?14:03
freemangordonPali: ok14:03
DocScrutinizer05yeah14:03
Palithere is some init work for jack14:03
DocScrutinizer05well, CSSU14:03
freemangordonstupid question :D. thanks14:03
Palibut unfinished14:03
freemangordonPali: ok14:03
Paliamixer from 2.6.28: http://pastebin.com/YYZFzSL014:04
freemangordonok14:05
Paliamixer from 3.12: http://pastebin.com/YKi9VQC414:05
Palifreemangordon: rebasing and now compiling14:09
freemangordonPali: what is that patch supposed to do?14:10
Paliin that 3 patches I tried to add missing switches/options which are in kp but not in 3.x14:10
freemangordondid you test it?14:11
Palino14:11
freemangordon:D14:11
Palithird patch I think will not compile14:11
Palibecause is unfinished14:11
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Paliand using that dummy functions from dummy b part code14:11
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freemangordon_what needs to be done?14:12
Palilook to syslog14:12
freemangordon_Pali: hmm, RX51_CODEC_RESET_GPIO does not belong here14:12
Palifor PA errors14:12
PaliI do not know, I just copied code from 2.6.28 kernel14:12
freemangordon_hmm, ok14:12
Palihere are all PA erros on 3.12 kernel: http://pastebin.com/GALcL3hG14:13
freemangordon_Pali: just to make you aware - TWL gpio base is no longer 192 in 3.x kernels14:15
freemangordon_it is 23814:15
freemangordon_I guess there is a way to get that in runtime14:15
freemangordon_Pali: ok, going to apply your patch, but you'll owe me a new n900 if it fries mine :P14:18
Paliv3.13-rc3-n900 branch on linux-n900 was created14:20
freemangordon_Pali: hmm, on which branch is your patch based on?14:20
freemangordon_it does not apply on 3.13-rc214:20
Pali3.12.0-rc514:20
freemangordon_weird, seems there are some changes14:21
Palisee commit date 2013-10-24 14:12:37 :-)14:21
freemangordon_will apply it by hand14:21
Palipatches are old14:21
freemangordon_could you give me sha id?14:21
freemangordon_fot that date14:21
freemangordon_*for14:21
Palion top of this commit 8b2759340639923d591d8701927be382baa8226814:21
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Palibut it should apply on top of v3.12-rc5-n90014:22
freemangordonI am trying to apply it on top of 3.13-rc214:22
freemangordonso I'll apply it by hand, selecting only the code I think is needed14:23
freemangordonPali: did you try to compile that?14:27
Palithird patch will not compile14:27
Palibecause is unfinished and using dummy b part module14:27
freemangordonPali: on what order should I apply those?14:28
Palifirst and second14:28
Palithird is not finished14:28
freemangordonoh, ok14:28
freemangordonmy fault then14:29
PaliI think it is not for testing yes14:29
freemangordonall of them or only the third patch?14:29
PaliI just sent it yo you, because you started hacking code and I wanted be sure, that you do not (re)write same code14:30
PaliI think only third14:30
Palido not remember14:30
freemangordonok14:30
Paliit was two months ago..14:30
freemangordonPali: I think I can make those patches upstreamable14:32
freemangordonlemme try14:33
Paliquestion is if that patches are needed or not14:33
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Palifreemangordon: maybe better would be to look at tidspbridge patches in linux-n900 tree and trying to upstream them15:41
Palithere are some for clk_enable15:41
Paliand some other which fixing compilation!15:42
freemangordonI'll wait for those I've already send to be upstreamed :)15:42
Paliok15:42
Palior you can look at -rc315:42
PaliI pushed it to linux-n900 git15:42
freemangordonwill do, lets see if I can fix anything in the audion in the meanwhile15:43
freemangordon*audio15:43
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freemangordonPali: compiling rc3 now, lets see :)16:24
freemangordonPali: though I'm afraid that i2c bug will be there as well :(16:25
Palireport bug16:25
freemangordonwill do16:25
freemangordonPali: BTW do you have any clue who should enable "Ext Spk"?16:27
freemangordonbecause one the reasons for the missing audio is that one disable16:27
freemangordonthe other is the wrong GPIO number16:27
Palialsaped?16:27
PaliPA?16:27
freemangordonhmm, and why it doesn;t enable it?16:27
Palilook at that PA error log16:28
Palimaybe there is something...16:28
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freemangordonPali: 3.13-rc3 doesn't boot :(16:57
Palishit16:57
freemangordonwell, it sits on "Loading Boot Menu"16:57
freemangordonthere is no oops16:57
freemangordonroot seems mounted16:58
Palicheck if you do not have same problem with BSI as pavelm16:58
freemangordonhmm?16:59
freemangordonPali: what problem?16:59
Palireported BSI is too low16:59
freemangordontoo low battery?16:59
PaliI think I CCed mails to you...17:00
freemangordonPali: but ut was booting 5 minutes ago with -rc217:00
freemangordonno, I am not in cc17:00
freemangordonok, will charge the battery and will retry17:00
freemangordonPali: oh, so Pavel managed to boot it? nice17:01
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Palino problem is not with battery17:01
Palibut sometimes for unknown reason BSI is too low with 3.x kernel17:01
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freemangordonhmm, never happened with rc217:02
Palifreemangordon: you are cced in that mail17:02
PaliMessage-Id: <201312052102.13966@pali>17:03
freemangordonhmm17:03
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freemangordonwell, nevermind17:03
freemangordonI can't search by message id anyways :D17:04
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freemangordonPali: also, it got stuck before loading bootmenu here17:05
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freemangordonPali: hmm, with closed keyboard it boots17:07
freemangordonin default maemo ofc :D17:07
freemangordonit seems that bootmenu fails for some reason17:08
freemangordondammit17:08
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freemangordonPali: I'll revert to rc2 and contunue work on audio19:11
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Paliok20:20
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05:can you remember how is done that alsa renaming?21:27
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