IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2013-11-03

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varu|zZztrying thumb again, 'conflict with hildon-thumbnil 3.0.51+0m5'. only mention i've found in the forums was http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1358709&postcount=160407:13
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varu|zZzgot it, info earlier in thread. kernel-power/cssu had to be installed08:06
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: could you check if DM3730 is supposed to have that thumb bug still?12:42
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: I'd suspect it's not a SiErr applicable to DM3730?12:58
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sixwheeledbeastvaru|zZz: did you read ~cssu-thumb links?13:28
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: afaik only the core in n900 is affected, later cores have that fixed14:28
Palimerlin1991: ping14:28
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: :nod: thanks14:29
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: we should(must?) use thumb2 for Neo90014:30
freemangordonand for n900 in that regard :P14:30
DocScrutinizer05shoukd, for sure14:30
DocScrutinizer05after all Neo900 is a newstart14:31
freemangordonis it? I mean, fremantle is not, put aside HW14:31
DocScrutinizer05even while it claims binary compatibility to N900, we should not miss to go new compatible routes wherever possible14:32
freemangordonsure14:32
freemangordonbut I don;t think we can afford to support 2 "distributions"14:32
DocScrutinizer05users don't expect stability of a N900 fremantle OS from beginning14:32
DocScrutinizer05it IS a newstart14:32
freemangordonMy vision is - one "distribution", for both devices, based on CSSU. With a HW adaptation package, if needed ofc14:33
DocScrutinizer05no new distro, but maybe one or another new lib, for sure a new kernel, several userland blobs replaced by patched or even FOSS-RE'd versions...14:33
freemangordon:nod:14:33
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: exactly14:34
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: thoug in order to achieve that, we should start doing it :)14:34
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: how "compatible" is gta04 to neo900? i.e. could it be used for "ptototyping" the OS, or the differences are too big and it will be a waste of time?14:36
freemangordonuntil there is a working neo900 ofc14:36
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merlin1991Pali: pong14:43
Palimerlin1991: qt merge request is waiting for you14:44
merlin1991yeah I'm on it atm :)14:44
dos1freemangordon: it should be pretty good platform for early work14:44
dos1freemangordon: but getting one may be a problem, there's not enough orders to make new production run14:45
freemangordonhmm, well then, we'll stick to n900 :)14:46
dos1getting one of broken ones (i mean, with some component being broken, like wifi) would be easier, as goldelico has few of them14:46
freemangordonPali: were you able to build and boot kernel-cssu?14:46
dos1openpandora also seems like a good choice for such stuff14:47
freemangordondos1: maybe, but who'll invest in buying device? I guess noone14:47
dos1yeah, this might be problematic :)14:48
dos1GTA04A4 second choice ca. 10 available; please Contact for a list boards completely tested but with some defects (e.g. no RS232, no Bluetooth, no WLAN, no UMTS voice, no I2C or OTG data broken)14:48
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dos1I'll be getting one of them14:50
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freemangordonarcean_: hi, latest h-d sigaborts from time to time, unfortunately I am stupid and deleted the coredumps :(14:51
freemangordonarcean_: anyway, the abort is in hd_task_navigator_update_win_orientation14:53
Palifreemangordon: not yet, I included some more patches to kp5315:04
Paliso I will merge and build kcssu after that15:05
Palinow I need to do lot of other stuff...15:06
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: N900 and GTA04 are sufficiently identical to get a basic maemo working15:19
DocScrutinizer05we'll deal with 90% of hw diffs in kernel15:20
DocScrutinizer05yiu can consider the modem identical to a USB stick attached to N90015:20
DocScrutinizer05the Neo900 and GTA04 are maybe less similar that the N900 and Neo90015:21
DocScrutinizer05s/that/than/15:22
infobotDocScrutinizer05 meant: the Neo900 and GTA04 are maybe less similar than the N900 and Neo90015:22
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DocScrutinizer05kingoddball has an openpandora 1GHz DM3730 he's willing to test fremantle ports on15:23
DocScrutinizer05we'll find further test devices as soon as they are needed15:24
DocScrutinizer05there must be a few spare GTA04 with defects that are not blocking tests at large15:24
DocScrutinizer05like one has broken wifi, other one broken uSD, or whatever15:24
DocScrutinizer05broken modem would be a nobrainer anyway, since that changes no matter what15:25
DocScrutinizer05and as already quoted for data and command you can consider it USB-attached15:25
DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: holler as soon as you need a loaner15:27
DocScrutinizer05(the ones with working RS232 are particularly useful for kernel development - built-in console)15:28
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merlin1991kerio: ping17:13
keriopong17:14
keriohi17:14
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merlin1991hey :)17:14
cryptonitehello17:14
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freemangordonmerlin1991: weird, I don;t see why should hildon-thumbnail conflict with -mp package17:14
kerioDocScrutinizer05: USB-attached? what? :o17:14
DocScrutinizer05what what?17:15
keriowhat's usb-attached17:15
freemangordonmerlin1991: oh, hildon-thumbnail is not in -testing -mp :(17:15
DocScrutinizer05the cmt17:15
merlin1991friggin usb networking is killing me again, I set up dnsmasq on my pc so that it gives dns and dhcp, the n900 happily accepted the ip, and it even has the nameserver in /var/run/resolv.conf.usb0 but still claims not to be able resolve names17:15
keriois it connected via usb in the neo900?17:15
DocScrutinizer05y-e-s17:16
kerio:(17:16
DocScrutinizer05huhß17:16
DocScrutinizer05??17:16
freemangordoncryptonite: as root in terminal do:17:16
keriodoesn't it use more power than alternatives17:16
kerio?17:16
freemangordonapt-get install mp-fremantle-community-pr=21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2+thumb017:16
DocScrutinizer05to be evaluated, not per se17:16
freemangordonmerlin1991: seems I have to issue a new -thumb -mp :)17:17
cryptonitewas not found17:19
merlin1991freemangordon: the -thumb repo purges older packages17:19
freemangordoncryptonite: wait some 15 minutes, I'll issue a new update17:19
cryptoniteok17:20
freemangordonmerlin1991: so?17:20
merlin1991it was a wild guess that you were attempting to install an older version of the mp ;)17:21
freemangordon21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.2+thumb0 is the latest17:21
freemangordonhowever17:21
ShadowJKdid 8.2+thumb1 just appear?17:23
freemangordonShadowJK: no, why is that? what will appear in a couple of minutes will be 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo8.3+thumb017:24
ShadowJKoh it showed up in "apt-cache policy mp-fremantle-community-pr"17:25
DocScrutinizer05next one wining about "maemo not supported anymore" will get redirected to this17:26
merlin1991huh?17:26
DocScrutinizer05where else you get a new build in <60min after you report a problem?17:27
merlin1991ah :)17:27
freemangordonhehe17:31
freemangordoncryptonite: new update is out, please refresh catalogs in HAM first17:31
cryptoniteperfect it showed up17:33
cryptonitebut still17:33
cryptoniteit has the conflict with the hildon-thumbnail17:33
cryptonitedamn17:33
cryptoniteit17:34
freemangordondid you refresh?17:34
cryptoniteyeap17:34
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freemangordondafuq?17:35
cryptoniteit showed the cssu thumb but the conflict remains17:35
freemangordonoh, shit :(17:35
freemangordonShadowJK: you are right, there IS  8.2+thumb117:36
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freemangordoncryptonite: should be ok now17:44
freemangordonplease try17:44
cryptonitewill try17:52
cryptoniteupdating right now17:54
cryptonitethanx17:54
freemangordoncryptonite: is it ok now?17:54
freemangordonno more conflicts?17:54
cryptoniteyeap17:57
freemangordongood :)17:57
cryptoniteit is downloading the update17:57
cryptonite:)17:57
cryptoniteso what was the issue?17:57
freemangordonnice. is it your first cssu install? or you were on -testing?17:58
freemangordoncryptonite: I forgot to push some changes17:58
freemangordoncryptonite: this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mp-fremantle-community-pr/commit/f24153c4a942c22728919c3777799e806e0eb2c217:59
cryptonitei had cssu-thumb but my optfs got corrupted and was erased(still dont know how that happened), then the phone got crazy and all the graphics got corrupted so i reflashed and had the conflict problem17:59
freemangordonmerlin1991: I was wondering - to workaround the tracker issue, could we merge decoder-support woth tracker?18:00
freemangordon*with18:00
freemangordoncryptonite: aah, ok18:00
merlin1991freemangordon: the problem is we'd pull in stuff to cssu not everybody has installed18:00
cryptonitepainful days18:01
freemangordonmerlin1991: yes, but I wouldn;t assume a problem the ability to support more media formats18:01
freemangordonon the other hand we shouldn;t rely on -extras repo :(18:02
merlin1991arf the merge request of QT doesn't build again18:02
cryptonitefrom now on should i have extras-testing enabled or disabled?18:07
cryptonitecaused i read somewhere that it conflicts with cssu-testing,is it true?18:07
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merlin1991cryptonite: absolutely not true18:21
merlin1991cssu-testing has nothing whatsoever todo with extras-testing18:21
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merlin1991I totally forgot how long qt4 takes to build19:00
merlin1991but it works19:21
merlin1991yay19:21
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Palifreemangordon, merlin1991: PA in cssu-devel looks like working fine: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1383838#post138383819:55
Paliadd it to next CSSU-T19:55
freemangordonPali: did you commit the changes on gitorious?19:55
PaliPA changes? yes19:55
freemangordonok, will test it on my device for a couple of days and will include it in cssu-thumb if working fine19:56
Paliok19:56
Paliif you have PA on desktop, you can test network support too :-)19:56
Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commit/1c4f502662547db1c07e8f7a6e282fbb2b3e575b19:56
* freemangordon is on wondoze :P19:57
freemangordon*windoze19:57
Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/source/master:debian/patches/0204-pa-protocol-version.patch19:57
PaliPA is for WIN32 too :P19:57
freemangordonhehe19:57
Palinow I upgraded PA from 1.1 to 3.0 on desktop and now it using only 3.5 MB and zero CPU activity...19:58
Palilooks like they trying to fix it...19:58
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