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| _rd | Started reflashing my n900 | 11:39 |
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| Drathir | mornin... | 12:19 |
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| _rd | /etc/apt/sources.list.d # cat cssu-testing | 12:25 |
| _rd | deb http://repository.maemo.org/community-testing/ fremantle free non-free | 12:25 |
| _rd | then I run apt-get update and apt-get install community-ssu-enabler | 12:26 |
| _rd | but got | 12:26 |
| _rd | E: Couldn't find package community-ssu-enabler | 12:26 |
| Drathir | maybe try run HAM to update ? | 12:29 |
| _rd | Seems, I need to call the file cssu-testing.list | 12:31 |
| Drathir | http://pastebin.com/VpP7m8er | 12:33 |
| Drathir | ~ # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/hildon-application-manager.list | 12:34 |
| Drathir | but nokias repository now doesnt works anymore... | 12:34 |
| Drathir | but idk if it a correct configuration this only mine config... | 12:36 |
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| _rd | Is there a cmd line to do the cssu upgrade? | 12:42 |
| _rd | apt-get upgrade will keep everything back, apt-get dist-upgrade will remove a lot of stuff (?) | 12:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NEVER DO apt-get dist-upgrade | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and even apt-get upgrade is highly deprecated | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | maemo is not really a debian distro when it comes to package management and apt | 12:50 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you're into cmdline a lot, then this one might give you some ideas: | 12:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 12:51 |
| infobot | [jrtools] http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 12:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | _rd: installation and update of CSSU is supported via HAM *only* | 13:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it's annoyingly slow, but it has other benefits that outweigh this | 13:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and don't think it got stuck, it's just busy and eventually will finish | 13:06 |
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| _rd | Thanks for reminding me. | 13:08 |
| _rd | Does CSSU-thumb have major issues? | 13:11 |
| _rd | Just wondering, if I should go for that one as well. | 13:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you first should make familiar with cssu-t | 13:12 |
| _rd | beyond what is written on the wiki page? | 13:13 |
| _rd | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thumb has no major "issues" but quite a number of idiosyncrasies that spoil "user experience". For example you need to worry when you want to use other kernels, or whenever a CSSU-t update gets rolled out | 13:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically cssu-thumb is to cssu-t what cssu-t is to stock maemo | 13:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | one basing on the other | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | while this is the right concept for cssu-t, it's fundamentally flawed for cssu-thumb. thumb should rather roll an independent "fork" | 13:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or call it "alternative distro" | 13:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it doesn't, and that creates repercussions when the stuff it bases on does change | 13:16 |
| _rd | ok, then I keep my fingers away from thumb right now | 13:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, learn about cssu-t then you will have better understanding how to handle cssu-thumb | 13:17 |
| _rd | I reflash my n900 again, maybe running apt-get broke something on the CSSU update. | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | unlike cssu-t it doesn'T comprehensively support HAM based installation and update | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for thumb you have to know when to say "No Thanks, not this one please, it's bogus" | 13:19 |
| _rd | That would not scare me, in contrary I would even prefer to get manage the n900 with the cmd line instead of HAM. | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, sure. but then you need to know _how_ that's done | 13:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and _how_ stuff works | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's _not_ working like the usual debian distro | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and there is no good howto | 13:20 |
| _rd | I take HAM, fine for me now | 13:20 |
| _rd | (as long as it works ;-) | 13:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | once HAM doesn't work for CSSU, CSSU is dead | 13:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we explicitly support HAM *only* | 13:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | (except for thumb) | 13:21 |
| _rd | BTW, do you know where the wlan passpharses are stored, i.e. is there a file I can restore, such that I do not loose all my passphrases? | 13:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and no | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's in gconf | 13:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | while basically gconf also are files, you are not suposed to safe and restore those | 13:22 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | osso-backup is doing such stuff for you | 13:23 |
| _rd | ok...can I extract the passphrase from the gconf file? | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's rather good at it | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes | 13:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | mompls | 13:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68063 | 13:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically `gconftool -R /<sometag> | 13:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | has all your connections | 13:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gconftool-2 -R /system/osso/connectivity/IAP | 13:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or simply have a good read with `gconftool-2 -R /|less` | 13:26 |
| _rd | but I probably have to set --config-source= since I backed up all the config files (?) | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | e.g /<ssid> kicks you to interesting region in less | 13:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're smarter than I am, here | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) | 13:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | something like `find /<where> -name "%XML-or-sth%" exec grep "<your-SSID>" {} \;` might help | 13:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the files gconftool uses are sth similar to "%XML%" | 13:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | %gconf.xml | 13:33 |
| _rd | After the re-flaching, do I have to run a HAM update, before running the cssu-t update? | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | find /backup -name '%gconf.xml' | 13:34 |
| _rd | (via .install file and HAM) | 13:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 13:34 |
| _rd | Then CSSU-t does not work with a fresh flashed n900. | 13:34 |
| _rd | I can install the community-ssu-enabler and then I get a few updates offered.... | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you flashed PR1.3 then you don't need to run updates, and you shouldn't install all offered updates in HAM but only the system upgrade | 13:35 |
| _rd | ...e.g. libqtm-bearer | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | forget all those | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | install the CSSU system upgrade HAM offers | 13:35 |
| _rd | it does not offer them for some reason. | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, please rephrase | 13:36 |
| Drathir | add repository throught HAM maybe ? | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | NJO! | 13:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu | 13:37 |
| infobot | well, cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 13:37 |
| _rd | The repository is there in HAM, the .install file did that. | 13:37 |
| _rd | I know the CSSU page very well ;-) | 13:37 |
| _rd | I took the .install file from there. | 13:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the procedure is detailed, comprehensive, and tested | 13:38 |
| _rd | but I did run an HAM update before clicking the CSSU .install file. | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when ham comes up it will show you some updates available. Just pick the Community SSU system upgrade - NOTHING LESE | 13:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ELSE even | 13:39 |
| Drathir | but thats strange why dont showing cssu update inside ham... | 13:39 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | doesn't hurt but not useful | 13:39 |
| _rd | HAM comes up and does show its regular start screen. | 13:39 |
| _rd | I can go to "update" now (?) | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | are you in point "5." of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation ? | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or in poin 7. | 13:41 |
| _rd | Just tried that, but I suspect I will only get the libqt* stuff again | 13:41 |
| _rd | yes that is what happened. | 13:42 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | are you in point "5." of http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation ? or in point 7. ? | 13:42 |
| _rd | Sorry...I am at point 5 and missed 6 | 13:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please follow instructions on http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation | 13:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the procedure is detailed, comprehensive, and tested | 13:44 |
| _rd | mea culpa for missing this point. | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | due to the (somewhat complicated) nature of the process of installing CSSU, this is the most streamlined procedure we could come up with | 13:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after all the installation of CSSU involves some nasty tweaks to repository list etc | 13:47 |
| _rd | It is working now, many thanks for helping. | 13:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 13:47 |
| _rd | BTW, do you want to have a look on my Xorg with the strange size from yesterday. I looked with a binary differ on it. There are many places which match exactly, but there are also many differences and mine also has a section with a lot of 00s. | 13:49 |
| _rd | I could not read out anything of it..... | 13:49 |
| _rd | ....in particular not what may have caused the broken installation. | 13:49 |
| _rd | will backupmenu also try to restore the installed packages? | 13:50 |
| _rd | i.e. does it store something like dpkg --get-selections? | 13:50 |
| _rd | just in case, here it is: http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Xorg.broken | 13:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | BM does a full logical (file level) disk image | 13:54 |
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| Drathir | thats interesting for me... Qåtd/lib/ld-linux.so.3GNUùôÁÕE | 14:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | huh? | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, in Xorg.broken? | 14:34 |
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: yes | 15:05 |
| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: that looks for me like something of lib or program... | 15:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, hard to tell what it is, based on that random string. ld-linux.so is the genuine linux mechanism to load any executable | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | for sure Xorg would want to use it one way or another to start arbitrary X client programs aka apps | 15:08 |
| Drathir | yea true... anyway ivteresting that virustotal will detect anything in it... | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | please rephrase, does virustotal detect or not? | 15:10 |
| Drathir | yes virustotal have if good remember a scaner in top av providers, and if good remember have heusteristic scanning mean try detecting also not known types of viruses... | 15:16 |
| Drathir | https://www.virustotal.com/pl/file/de53a7d4c6fffddf3067ab789755b4c183ef289e46c6e6bd539409e340291c67/analysis/1371385525/ | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thanks :-) | 15:52 |
| Drathir | np looks like clean but theoretically it can be suspicious code... | 16:01 |
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