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| DocScrutinizer05 | rebooting on a faulty hw for sure is no alternative X-P | 00:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if that HWRNG can get initialized only once, then kernel shouldn't de-initialize it after usage, *OR* should immediately close and cleanout/remove /dev/hwrng after it got used | 00:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | + unload the kernel module | 00:32 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05: if some application needs random data, then it will use hw random data instead pseudo random | 01:10 |
| Pali | in rcS-late maemo setting initial state of pseudo random generator from random data provided by hw | 01:11 |
| kerio | how fast is the hwrng? | 01:12 |
| kerio | also, *.dpkg-new in /etc/event.d will screw things up, i think | 01:13 |
| Pali | kerio: it is slow, but looks like it is faster than /dev/random | 01:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: that's what I think as well | 01:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | a terribly bad idea to place those files there | 01:25 |
| Pali | dpkg-new, dpkg-old files are only temporary when dpkg running | 01:27 |
| Pali | after successfull upgrade those files are moved/removed | 01:28 |
| Pali | it looks like HAM broke something... | 01:28 |
| Pali | who created that HAM???? | 01:29 |
| kerio | Pali: apt-get does that too | 01:30 |
| Pali | ah... | 01:31 |
| kerio | that's why /etc/event.replace.d exists i think | 01:31 |
| kerio | put the file there, copy it and remove any extra cruft in postinst | 01:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway my dpkg is NOT running | 01:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | I think event.replace.d is for recovering from terribly fuxored setup | 01:38 |
| peterpark | is the cssu/testing release still stuck in reboot loop? | 01:53 |
| tadzik | nope | 01:53 |
| peterpark | thanks for the info! Keep up the good work! | 01:56 |
| peterpark | double thumbs up!! | 01:56 |
| tadzik | at least it works for me :) | 01:57 |
| peterpark | I will have a try then :) | 01:57 |
| peterpark | great! my nokia is alive again! | 02:11 |
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| acab | hello, i have last cssu, but i havent rtcom-messaging-ui-portait conversations in portrait | 02:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | peterpark: \o/ | 03:00 |
| Drathir | upgrade or not upgrade that the question ^^ | 03:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | well, upgrade is no option for me, since I got procps and some other quite usual stuff installed | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and I'm not doing this idiocy anymore to redo all those customizations after each new version of CSSU and undo it before the next update | 03:46 |
| Drathir | any here have second testing purpose device? | 03:47 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd rather go run "my own distro" once more, by getting jrtools up to date, than doing this CSSU hassle any longer | 03:48 |
| Drathir | if yas and have a little free time to test clean reflash device and install cssu testing to confirm that works without problems? | 03:49 |
| Drathir | yas=yes | 03:49 |
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| Drathir | im little more scared to update because my usb port is little lazy and charger when touching say charging/charging disconnect and little aware to brick my device when reflash will be needed :/ | 03:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you should fix your USB, *urgently* | 03:56 |
| Drathir | but usf handle strong to pcb only how to say i can compare that to shoes when you buy it fit ideally but when you using it get some bigger than new ones after buy... | 03:59 |
| Drathir | yea im know that can be stupid compare but only that way i can visualise what im have on my mind... | 04:00 |
| Drathir | usf=usb* | 04:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, I can't parse your sentence before last | 04:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah maybe meanwhile I at least grammatically parsed it | 04:17 |
| Drathir | ok i try to search correct words hard to explain what is wrong with port... | 04:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | still I don't know what you want to tell me about sttae of your USB on N900 | 04:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | state* | 04:18 |
| Drathir | ok try this way if good find usb hole looks like little more loose than new one... | 04:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, if you don't have any uBoot or powerkernel or multiboot installed, then a backupmenu backup should allow you to restore to previous state not matter what might go awry with cssu upgrade | 04:20 |
| Drathir | but only hole inside was made bigger and not that thin like new fresh one after buy.. | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and yes, that (more loose than new one) is exactly what you should fix *immediately* before it breaks completely | 04:22 |
| Drathir | oh thats great because i have complete stuff u-boot, buckupmenu with all stuff related to it and also alarm on sd card... | 04:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aah, you're worried about the loose fit of plug into receptacle? You can't tell about receptacle from plug. You need to touch receptacle rim directly with a toothpick and watch if it moves | 04:24 |
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| Drathir | DocScrutinizer05: oh that i must read the threat on forum, or wiki... im thinkink that fixing a port is only when is pull out from pcb im wrong then... | 04:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's particularly effective to "fix" it before it's completely broken | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and that's also particularly feasible (I don't dare to say "easy") for inexperienced solder iron jockeys | 04:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | when you're able to solder two 1.5mm diameter copper wires together, then you also should be able to reinforce your USB receptacle | 04:29 |
| Drathir | im very cerfully beggining the first day when i get my n900 about usb because i hear on maemo that the major problem of n900 also seen a lot of broken phones with pulled out usb on service similar to ebay... | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so why do you think your USB is in danger of going defect on next reflashing? | 04:30 |
| Drathir | because that state of usb is from normal charging and use the phone when do it, it looks like a normal use/consume of usb port... | 04:34 |
| Drathir | but i must learn how to fix it anyway... | 04:34 |
| Drathir | yea if solder mashine dont heat like mine russian one to 150*C :p | 04:41 |
| Drathir | it is a transsformer one, and heat speed is high, but for normal home solder works is enough harder is with smaller/fraggile materials... | 04:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Drathir: for soldering the mechanical supports of USB you should actually use a stromg soldering iron (60..80W) and not too low teperature. The ground planes in PCB are sucking away all the soldering iron heat | 05:58 |
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