IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2013-06-11

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DocScrutinizer05rebooting on a faulty hw for sure is no alternative X-P00:29
DocScrutinizer05if that HWRNG can get initialized only once, then kernel shouldn't de-initialize it after usage, *OR* should immediately close and cleanout/remove /dev/hwrng after it got used00:31
DocScrutinizer05+ unload the kernel module00:32
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PaliDocScrutinizer05: if some application needs random data, then it will use hw random data instead pseudo random01:10
Paliin rcS-late maemo setting initial state of pseudo random generator from random data provided by hw01:11
keriohow fast is the hwrng?01:12
kerioalso, *.dpkg-new in /etc/event.d will screw things up, i think01:13
Palikerio: it is slow, but looks like it is faster than /dev/random01:19
DocScrutinizer05kerio: that's what I think as well01:25
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DocScrutinizer05a terribly bad idea to place those files there01:25
Palidpkg-new, dpkg-old files are only temporary when dpkg running01:27
Paliafter successfull upgrade those files are moved/removed01:28
Paliit looks like HAM broke something...01:28
Paliwho created that HAM????01:29
kerioPali: apt-get does that too01:30
Paliah...01:31
keriothat's why /etc/event.replace.d exists i think01:31
kerioput the file there, copy it and remove any extra cruft in postinst01:32
DocScrutinizer05anyway my dpkg is NOT running01:34
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DocScrutinizer05I think event.replace.d is for recovering from terribly fuxored setup01:38
peterparkis the cssu/testing release still stuck in reboot loop?01:53
tadziknope01:53
peterparkthanks for the info! Keep up the good work!01:56
peterparkdouble thumbs up!!01:56
tadzikat least it works for me :)01:57
peterparkI will have a try then :)01:57
peterparkgreat! my nokia is alive again!02:11
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acabhello, i have last cssu, but i havent rtcom-messaging-ui-portait conversations in portrait02:49
DocScrutinizer05peterpark: \o/03:00
Drathirupgrade or not upgrade that the question ^^03:37
DocScrutinizer05well, upgrade is no option for me, since I got procps and some other quite usual stuff installed03:45
DocScrutinizer05and I'm not doing this idiocy anymore to redo all those customizations after each new version of CSSU and undo it before the next update03:46
Drathirany here have second testing purpose device?03:47
DocScrutinizer05I'd rather go run "my own distro" once more, by getting jrtools up to date, than doing this CSSU hassle any longer03:48
Drathirif yas and have a little free time to test clean reflash device and install cssu testing to confirm that works without problems?03:49
Drathiryas=yes03:49
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Drathirim  little more scared to update because my usb port is little lazy and charger when touching say charging/charging disconnect and little aware to brick my device when reflash will be needed :/03:55
DocScrutinizer05you should fix your USB, *urgently*03:56
Drathirbut usf handle strong to pcb only how to say  i can compare that to shoes when you buy it fit ideally but when you using it get some bigger than new ones after buy...03:59
Drathiryea im know that can be stupid compare but only that way i can visualise what im have on my mind...04:00
Drathirusf=usb*04:05
DocScrutinizer05sorry, I can't parse your sentence before last04:15
DocScrutinizer05aah maybe meanwhile I at least grammatically parsed it04:17
Drathirok i try to search correct words hard to explain what is wrong with port...04:17
DocScrutinizer05still I don't know what you want to tell me about sttae of your USB on N90004:17
DocScrutinizer05state*04:18
Drathirok try this way if good find usb hole looks like little more loose than new one...04:20
DocScrutinizer05anyway, if you don't have any uBoot or powerkernel or multiboot installed, then a backupmenu backup should allow you to restore to previous state not matter what might go awry with cssu upgrade04:20
Drathirbut only hole inside was made bigger and not that thin like new fresh one after buy..04:21
DocScrutinizer05and yes, that (more loose than new one) is exactly what you should fix *immediately* before it breaks completely04:22
Drathiroh thats great because i have complete stuff u-boot, buckupmenu with all stuff related to it and also alarm on sd card...04:23
DocScrutinizer05aah, you're worried about the loose fit of plug into receptacle? You can't tell about receptacle from plug. You need to touch receptacle rim directly with a toothpick and watch if it moves04:24
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DrathirDocScrutinizer05: oh that i must read the threat on forum, or wiki... im thinkink that fixing a port is only when is pull out from pcb im wrong then...04:26
DocScrutinizer05no, it's particularly effective to "fix" it before it's completely broken04:27
DocScrutinizer05and that's also particularly feasible (I don't dare to say "easy") for inexperienced solder iron jockeys04:27
DocScrutinizer05when you're able to solder two 1.5mm diameter copper wires together, then you also should be able to reinforce your USB receptacle04:29
Drathirim very cerfully beggining the first day when i get my n900 about usb because i hear on maemo that the major problem of n900 also seen a lot of broken phones with pulled out usb on service similar to ebay...04:29
DocScrutinizer05so why do you think your USB is in danger of going defect on next reflashing?04:30
Drathirbecause that state of usb is from normal charging and use the phone when do it, it looks like a normal use/consume of usb port...04:34
Drathirbut i must learn how to fix it anyway...04:34
Drathiryea if solder mashine dont heat like mine russian one to 150*C  :p04:41
Drathirit is a transsformer one, and heat speed is high, but for normal home solder works is enough harder is with smaller/fraggile materials...04:47
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DocScrutinizer05Drathir: for soldering the mechanical supports of USB you should actually use a stromg soldering iron (60..80W) and not too low teperature. The ground planes in PCB are sucking away all the soldering iron heat05:58
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