IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Friday, 2013-05-03

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fw190DocScrutinizer05: hello! do you have a minut or two?13:32
DocScrutinizer05shoot13:33
fw190a while ago I had problems with spinning down my dis cin opensuse13:33
fw190and you suggested me to do13:33
fw190echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >>/etc/init.d/boot.local13:33
fw190and then13:33
fw190grep -r hdparm /etc13:34
fw190it worked a few times13:34
fw190but today after fresh install of opensuse with lxde13:34
fw190it doesnt want to cooperate with me ;)13:34
fw190the grep gives: /etc/sysconfig/ide:# mode) or any mode supported by hdparm (e.g. "mdma2", "udma5", ...)13:34
fw190in boot.local i get: echo: command not found13:35
DocScrutinizer05huh?13:35
DocScrutinizer05your bash tells you "echo: command not found" ?13:36
DocScrutinizer05and what do you mean by "in boot.local "?13:37
DocScrutinizer05please paste result of13:38
DocScrutinizer05ls -l /etc/init.d/boot.local13:38
fw190-rwxr--r-- 1 root root 405 05-03 12:29 /etc/init.d/boot.local13:38
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >>/etc/init.d/boot.local13:39
fw190well in boot.local ther suposed to be this: "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"13:39
DocScrutinizer05yes13:39
fw190after your command there is: echo: command not found /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda13:40
fw190in two lines13:40
DocScrutinizer05tail -n 3 /etc/init.d/boot.local13:40
fw190and the disc keeps spinning13:40
fw190echo: command not found /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda13:40
DocScrutinizer05sorry, where or what is that?13:41
fw190that is the output of13:41
fw190tail -n 3 /etc/init.d/boot.local13:41
DocScrutinizer05o.O13:42
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"13:42
DocScrutinizer05please paste your input line and the result line13:43
fw190output: /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda13:43
DocScrutinizer05no way13:43
DocScrutinizer05there's no "output:" on your screen13:43
fw190well Iahve pasted the command13:44
fw190then enter13:44
DocScrutinizer05jr@saturn:~> echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"13:44
DocScrutinizer05/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda13:44
DocScrutinizer05jr@saturn:~>13:44
DocScrutinizer05this is how your paste should look like13:45
DocScrutinizer05here13:45
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fw190If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:     cnf echo13:46
fw190that is what pops out after: echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"13:46
DocScrutinizer05can't you just c&P?13:47
DocScrutinizer05incl prompt and everything13:47
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:     cnf echo13:47
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DocScrutinizer05I wonder what shell you're using13:48
DocScrutinizer05or if you're in an xterm at all13:49
fw190LXTerminal13:49
DocScrutinizer05lol13:49
DocScrutinizer05sorry, nfc what you're doing there13:50
DocScrutinizer05echo is a builtin of bash13:50
DocScrutinizer05iirc13:50
fw190I'm starting LXterinal and puting the commands ;)13:50
fw190and a shit storm comes out13:51
DocScrutinizer05don't use LXterminal13:51
DocScrutinizer05never heard of that13:51
DocScrutinizer05honestly, echo an unknown command. I can't help on that13:52
DocScrutinizer05try Konsole13:53
DocScrutinizer05or even xterm13:53
fw190yes13:53
DocScrutinizer05or type the shit on console1 (alt-ctrl-F1)13:53
fw190I'm in xterm now13:53
fw190and trying to13:53
fw190do it again13:54
DocScrutinizer05echo test13:54
DocScrutinizer05or, even better:13:55
DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/echo $PATH13:55
DocScrutinizer05paste cmdline plus result here13:56
DocScrutinizer05you don't want to try and do it again, as you already messed up stuff13:56
DocScrutinizer05honestly, please do13:57
DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/echo $PATH13:57
DocScrutinizer05and then please do:13:58
DocScrutinizer05echo test13:58
DocScrutinizer05paste those 4 lines here13:58
DocScrutinizer05the 2 input and 2 output lines13:58
fw190fw190@linux-gsm8:~> /usr/bin/echo $PATH /home/fw190/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games13:59
DocScrutinizer05not concatenated13:59
DocScrutinizer05but meh13:59
fw190fw190@linux-gsm8:~> echo test test13:59
DocScrutinizer05this doesn't come in as two lines here14:00
DocScrutinizer05if it looks like that on your screen then you got a problem14:00
fw190the output of echo test14:00
fw190is test14:00
DocScrutinizer05then please do:14:01
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local14:02
DocScrutinizer05^^ this is different to previous one14:02
fw190I did it14:02
fw190nothing popped out14:03
DocScrutinizer05that's fine14:03
fw190"im doeing evrything as root if this is important14:03
DocScrutinizer05now do14:04
DocScrutinizer05cat /etc/init.d/boot.local14:04
fw190echo: command not found14:04
* DocScrutinizer05 headdesks14:05
fw190when I open boot.local14:05
fw190there is only:14:06
fw190echo: command not found14:06
fw190does this matter that home is encrypted?14:06
DocScrutinizer05fetch last echo line with cursor-up14:07
DocScrutinizer05remove ">/etc/init.d/boot.local" with backspace14:07
DocScrutinizer05shoot14:07
DocScrutinizer05what's the result?14:08
fw190all was left is cat14:08
fw190after enter14:08
fw190nothing came up14:09
DocScrutinizer05wut?14:09
fw190I do not understand this: fetch last echo line with cursor-up14:09
DocScrutinizer05press cursor-up key until last line starting with "echo" shows up14:10
* DocScrutinizer05 headdesks a bit more14:10
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:     cnf echo14:11
DocScrutinizer05and probably now nothing works at all and you don't even have a prompt anymore, right?14:11
DocScrutinizer05your fucking PATH is not set correctly14:11
DocScrutinizer05and I have no damn clue what you did to get14:12
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:00:55] <fw190> the output of echo test14:12
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:00:58] <fw190> is test14:12
fw190?14:12
DocScrutinizer05while the output of echo "someothershit" is echo: cmd not found14:12
fw190that is the point14:13
fw190clean open suse with lxde14:13
fw190the first point of setting it up14:13
DocScrutinizer05if you can't copy&paste two complete consecutive lines here, without any added comments or removed linebreaks, i can't help any furhter14:13
fw190was stoping the disc spining down14:14
fw190as I did 3 times in last year14:14
fw190and all worked14:14
DocScrutinizer05please type(!):14:15
DocScrutinizer05/bin/bash14:15
fw190http://tinypic.com/r/5kowsz/514:15
DocScrutinizer05doesn't help me14:16
DocScrutinizer05try to damn highlight the two lines with mouse, and paste them here, or on http://privatepaste.com14:17
DocScrutinizer05but honestly, this been way more than 2 minutes now14:17
DocScrutinizer05feels more like 2 hours14:18
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /bin/bash14:18
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 #14:18
fw190the command and the output14:19
DocScrutinizer05fine14:19
DocScrutinizer05now type:14:19
DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/echo $PATH14:19
DocScrutinizer05and paste the both lines here14:19
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /usr/bin/echo $PATH14:19
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fw190the output14:21
fw190doesnt want to paste here so I put it ther14:21
fw190http://privatepaste.com/e4b07330ba14:21
DocScrutinizer05here you need to add a second / at start of line14:22
DocScrutinizer05or a space14:22
DocScrutinizer05type:14:22
DocScrutinizer05/usr/bin/which echo14:23
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # /usr/bin/which echo14:24
DocScrutinizer05/14:24
DocScrutinizer05//14:24
DocScrutinizer05actually14:24
fw190http://privatepaste.com/9edc83c66e14:25
DocScrutinizer05:-S14:25
DocScrutinizer05ok14:25
fw190I'm on web irc and adding a space or ?? doesn't allow me to paste it14:25
DocScrutinizer05weird14:25
DocScrutinizer05add a fuckwebirc at beginning of line14:26
DocScrutinizer05please type:14:26
DocScrutinizer05echo test14:26
DocScrutinizer05and paste the both lines here14:26
fw190 fuckwebirc /usr/bin/echo14:26
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo test14:27
fw190test14:27
DocScrutinizer05please type:14:27
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"14:27
DocScrutinizer05and paste the both lines here14:27
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"14:28
fw190If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:     cnf echo14:28
DocScrutinizer05OMG14:28
fw190I agree - maybe I will try to install it again or use another distro like lubuntu14:29
DocScrutinizer05you're aware that in "echo test" and "echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 2...." it's both times same command called "echo"?14:29
DocScrutinizer05please type:14:29
DocScrutinizer05echo "test"14:29
DocScrutinizer05and paste the both lines here14:30
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "test"14:30
fw190test14:30
DocScrutinizer05now I think i'm dreaming14:31
fw190I can paste you the terminal ;)14:31
DocScrutinizer05please type:14:31
DocScrutinizer05echo "/test"14:31
DocScrutinizer05and paste the both lines here14:31
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/test"14:32
DocScrutinizer05fsckwebirc14:32
fw190fckwebirc /test14:32
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm"14:33
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm"14:34
fw190fuck /sbin/hdparm14:34
fw190;)14:34
DocScrutinizer05:-S14:34
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev"14:34
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev"14:35
fw190.... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev14:35
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"14:35
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"14:36
fw190... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda14:36
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:28:10] <fw190> linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda"14:36
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:28:26] <fw190> If 'echo' is not a typo you can use command-not-found to lookup the package that contains it, like this:     cnf echo14:36
DocScrutinizer05[14:36
fw190so now it worked?14:37
fw190I do not understand14:37
DocScrutinizer05you're sure you haven't inserted unprintable chars into your commandline?14:38
DocScrutinizer05like ctrl-v or whatever14:38
fw190at which point?14:39
DocScrutinizer05anyway, maybe you should retry:14:39
DocScrutinizer05echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local14:39
DocScrutinizer05at NO point!#14:40
DocScrutinizer05c&p from wbeirc most likely is a poor idea14:40
fw190before I mess again14:40
fw190what does this mean: at NO point!#14:41
DocScrutinizer05there might be such hidden chars14:41
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DocScrutinizer05this means you must not press ctrl-v or any other keys14:41
DocScrutinizer05just type what you read here14:41
fw190Ok I have copied14:41
fw190it to a notepad14:41
fw190and will put it form there14:42
fw190ah14:42
fw190ok14:42
fw190I will type it14:42
DocScrutinizer05how hard can it be to press cursor-up to get last line, then add >/etc/init.d/boot.local14:42
DocScrutinizer05either that works now, or not. anyway I'm afk. sorry14:44
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # echo "/sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda" >/etc/init.d/boot.local14:45
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 #14:45
DocScrutinizer05cat /etc/init.d/boot.local14:45
fw190linux-gsm8:/home/fw190 # cat /etc/init.d/boot.local14:46
fw190... /sbin/hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda14:46
DocScrutinizer05congrats14:46
fw190reboot and test?14:46
fw190thank you for your time14:48
fw190I will reboot14:48
fw190and try to figure out why it worked now14:48
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DocScrutinizer05GOD, 90 minutes14:55
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fw190da fuck less /etc/init.d/boot.local15:01
fw190shows: /sbin/<U+FEFF>hdparm -B 254 -S 0 /dev/sda15:01
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fw190I have not put that U+FEFFF15:02
DocScrutinizer05http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/feff/index.htm15:08
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fw190DocScrutinizer05: sory for the 90minutes but as I see no hope I have to go back to buntuk ro debian or something els which will stop this idiotic disc from spinning down15:10
DocScrutinizer05>>But every 4-6 months another huge thread on the Unicode List gets started about how bad the BOM is for UTF-8 and how it breaks UNIX tools that have been around and able to support UTF-8 without change for decades2 and about how Microsoft is evil for shipping Notepad that causes all of these problems and how neither the W3C nor Unicode would have ever supported a UTF-8 BOM if Microsoft did not have Notepad doing it, and so on, and15:13
DocScrutinizer05so on.<<15:13
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DocScrutinizer05>>Believe it or not, unicodeFFFE is actually documented as Internet Explorer's Preferred Charset Label for Unicode (Big-Endian). Periodically people report the name as a bug, since there is no such code point in Unicode as U+fffe. But the reason for the name is that if you look at a BOM of UTF-16 big endian on a system that is little endian, it will look like FFFE. Since that is not a valid character, it is easy to tell on a Little15:18
DocScrutinizer05Endian system that the file must be Big Endian Unicode. The name is just acting as a sensible (if somewhat platformily provincial) labelling of what one sees on almost 100% of all Windows platforms.<<15:18
DocScrutinizer05i'd bet fw190 did NOT *type* the commands, rather probably c&p'ed it from some M$-related shit, if only the webirc page15:20
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:41:50] <fw190> Ok I have copied15:21
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:41:58] <fw190> it to a notepad15:21
DocScrutinizer05[2013-05-03 13:42:03] <fw190> and will put it form there15:21
* DocScrutinizer05 headdesks a little more, then heads out15:22
DocScrutinizer05ssh via PuTTY or what?15:22
DocScrutinizer05or a virtualbox under win7?15:23
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Palimerlin1991: cssu-t :-)16:56
freemangordonPali: he told Friday, I suspect that means Friday evening :)17:14
Paliok :-) evening17:14
freemangordonmerlin1991: no bars and girls for you today :P17:14
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merlin1991freemangordon: I wish17:44
merlin1991bars are in the realm of possible17:44
freemangordonmerlin1991: hmm? why the bars are impossible for you?17:44
merlin1991freemangordon: other way around :D17:45
freemangordonhmm?17:45
freemangordonWTF?17:45
merlin1991bars are possible, girls are rather hard :)17:45
freemangordonooh, rabbit never come easy :P17:45
merlin1991now back to c# :/17:49
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Palimerlin1991: can you delete expiration date on cssu GPG key?18:41
Paliif you can do it before next cssu-t, I can update cssu enabler package (where is stored public part of key)18:42
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Palimerlin1991: do not push last version of modest to cssu-t, but version 3.90.7-11.318:45
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