IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Thursday, 2013-04-18

merlin1991kerio: debug that crappy perl script00:04
merlin1991it's driving me mental00:04
keriohahaha perl00:04
keriohahahahah00:04
merlin1991trys to download 30gb each run00:04
merlin1991for no apparant reason00:04
kerioha :(00:04
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merlin1991hm I guess I could use an rsync setup instead00:05
* merlin1991 wondes if the repo is mounted somewhere on drop00:05
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keriooh, reprepro is in perl?00:07
keriogregoa: halp!00:07
merlin1991kerio: nope00:08
merlin1991but apt-mirror is00:08
merlin1991a local apt-mirror is the base for my reprepro mirror00:08
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Estel_council? is that place place visited in hope for some good p0rn, but lately, only bestality and incest there?00:50
Estel_bestiality, even00:50
RST38hWhat bestiality? What incest? I mostly observe necrophilia00:50
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freemangordonmerlin1991: pong08:21
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Estel_funny bug when using c fMradio and analog passthrough - when someone calls you, radio got silenced, but other side hears RADIO instead of you14:23
Estel_say about funny audio routing? No idea, how it ends on mic input, when using analog passthrough14:23
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keriomerlin1991: btw, have you tried touching all the .deb files in your local mirror?15:06
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Palimerlin1991: why promotion of packages still not working?15:23
Paliand why kernel-power v52 is not visible in package interface?15:23
freemangordonPali: BTW now CSSU repo is ok we should finish with KCSSU assessment15:24
Paliok15:24
PaliI want to update kernel-power-settings15:24
freemangordonI guess merlin1991 should appoint a meeting these days, so we can decide on the new CSSU update15:24
Paliremove hacks for /etc/rcS-late15:24
Paliwhich can break my work on optional static /etc/fstab15:25
freemangordonPali: hmm, which hacks?15:25
keriofreemangordon: using `uname -a` instead of 2.6.28-omap1 or current15:26
kerioer, uname -v15:26
Palikernel-power-settings adding some file which is included by /etc/rcS-late15:26
Palikerio, no15:26
keriooh15:26
freemangordonPali: aah, ok15:26
Palikerio, kernel-power-setting and /etc/rcS-late, not /sbin/preinit (and kernel-power-modules)15:26
kerioanyway, not here i guess15:26
keriothe hook in rcS-late is done in mount-opts15:27
Palibut in gitorious cssu is prepared replacement for /sbin/preinit15:27
Palikerio, yes that hook in mount-opts15:27
kerioi just removed it15:27
kerio\_o_/15:27
keriohave you fixed the rcS-late thing?15:28
Palikerio, somewhere on cssu gitorious is my repo15:30
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Palikerio: https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-upstart15:31
freemangordonPali: BTW is bme-replacement in extras-devel?15:31
Palino15:31
Palicannot be15:31
keriocan't be, at least not easily15:31
freemangordonwhat are the plans for it?15:31
Palinew separate repo porpably15:32
freemangordonhmm15:32
Palior only deb packages for download15:32
freemangordonwhy extras is not the correct place?15:32
keriofreemangordon: system packages15:33
Palibecause we shouldnt ship bme hald-addon-bme and libbmeipc package to extras-devel15:33
freemangordonkerio: I see15:34
freemangordonPali: ok, but why? :)15:35
freemangordonPali: is it because of what kerio said?15:35
Paliit can break lot of devices if users did not install kernel-power15:35
Paliand you know that lot of users doing apt-get upgrade on extras-devel15:35
freemangordonPali: wait, if you have the correct dependencies in place, there should be no problem15:36
Paliextras-devel is not place for replacing *system* packages15:36
Palithis was reason why there is cssu15:36
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freemangordonPali: hmm, I don't agree, see extmou ;)15:37
kerioyeah, about that15:37
Palior why we do not push all cssu packages to extras-devel?15:37
kerioit doesn't uninstall cleanly15:37
keriowell, extkbd doesn't15:37
PaliI do not agree, extmou is not system package15:37
Paliit is not in nokia repository15:37
freemangordonPali: it depends on fixed xorg-evdev15:37
kerioextkbd installs an updated xkb package that replaces the system one15:38
freemangordonwhich is in extras15:38
keriowith a different name15:38
freemangordonthe same does extmou15:38
kerioi mean, at least it's not a dpkg unpack15:38
Palibut all those packages does not exists in any nokia repository15:38
keriobut still15:38
freemangordonyep, it "Replaces"15:38
freemangordonPali: well, I still think extras is better than standalone .deb15:39
freemangordonPali: you can just rename those packages and do "replaces" for the originals15:39
Palinot possible15:39
freemangordonit is, that's what I do for extkbd/extmou15:39
Palibecause other packages depends on hald-addon-bme specific version15:40
kerioand it's a huge mess15:40
kerioexcept even more so15:40
freemangordonPali: and apt-get upgrade won't upgrade system packages if you don't have the UI installed15:40
Paliif you want bme replacement working you need hald-addon-bme and dsme package with version 1.0 so other packages can be installd15:40
freemangordonif you have the UI, replacements will be pulled by apt/HAM15:41
Paliapt-get upgrade will install all new version of packages15:41
Paliand hald-addon-bme is new version of hald-addon-bme15:41
freemangordonPali: no, as the names could be different, "hald-addon-bme-foss" for example15:42
Palinot possible15:42
freemangordonI still don;t get it why15:42
keriofreemangordon: that's a HUGE mess15:42
PaliI already wrote that packages depends on hald-addon-bme specific version15:42
freemangordonoh, ok15:42
Paliif you want bme replacement you must have hald-addon-bme version >= 1.015:43
freemangordonPali: what i sthe problem if you change that to "Depends:  hald-addon-bme-foss (>= 1.0)"15:43
Palineeds again to rewrite all packages and shell scripts15:44
Paliplus problems with downgrade15:44
kerioa huge amount of problems for no gain at all, relaly15:50
kerio*really15:50
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