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| merlin1991 | ffs linux serial system drives me mental | 12:57 |
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| merlin1991 | can't get a simple blocking read for x chars running | 12:57 |
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| ShadowJK | you're getting them one by one? | 13:04 |
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| merlin1991 | ShadowJK: nah it rather returns on read when it feels like | 17:34 |
| Pali | merlin1991, anything about missing kernel-power in maemo package interface? | 17:51 |
| Pali | also all my promoted packages (from extras-devel) still missing | 17:51 |
| Pali | merlin1991, other question: how to delete some package from extras{-devel|-testing|} ? | 17:52 |
| Pali | and it is possible only for i386 arch? | 17:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: there shouldn't be any normal way (user way) to delete anything from extras-testing or extras repo | 17:56 |
| Pali | why maintainer of package should not delete package? | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it usually casues problems for users who might already have installed that package, for example you can't restore normal backups anymore | 17:57 |
| Pali | it is not problem | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | uhuh | 17:57 |
| Pali | HAM normally restore backup without that missing packages | 17:57 |
| Pali | I done it more times | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so how's that "not a problem"? | 17:58 |
| Pali | restore is not problem | 17:58 |
| Pali | you can restore normal backup without that missing packages | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nonsense, when a user can't restore a pkg from his backup since the pkg vanished on repo, this IS a problem | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | extras-testing and particularly extras are generally not supposed to lose *any* package that been there | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | only upgrade to more recent version | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | why should any devel be allowed to delete his pkg from extras?? :-o | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after all you've put it into public domain and maemo.org only is hosting it | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you as well can ask google to delete a hit or cache from their engine | 18:02 |
| Pali | extras not, but extras-devele & extras-testing | 18:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you're free to upload never version of any kind to extras-devel | 18:03 |
| Pali | reason could be conflict with new package... | 18:03 |
| Pali | or that some package cannot be installed due to bad dependences | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | on extras-testing your promotion meant you're putting a supposedly "perfect2 package into public domain for virtually everybody | 18:04 |
| Pali | or bad architecture | 18:04 |
| Pali | e.g armel package is OK, but i386 not | 18:04 |
| Pali | and when you promote armel package, some maemo infra auto promote i386 | 18:05 |
| Pali | even if you did not clicked to promote i386 version | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you didn't notice that on extras-devel, then we should remove *you* from devel accounts, not your *pkg* from extras-testing | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bottom line: there's no devel/user option to delete anything from any repo. You need to ask repo maintainers to do it for you | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and you will have to take a bit of bashing for what you did | 18:06 |
| Pali | I think that if developer upload new version of some package to extras-devel and after weak some testers report critical (which developer did not saw before), he should be able to remove binary deb package from extras-devel immediately to do not break other devices... | 18:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you are free to upload a new fixed version that overrides the former version | 18:09 |
| Pali | for sure packages are free (and other people can still compile it/download) but there should be way to temporary disable/remove bad version until developer fix problem and upload new version | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | your new version may consist of one empty sourcefile, plus the usual needed debian spicing around it | 18:10 |
| Pali | or to detele broken i386/armel binary package | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we're not going to implement delete function for repo content | 18:11 |
| Pali | somehing (e.g. HW related or broken due to compilers) cannot be fixed for specific arch | 18:11 |
| Pali | so binary deb package in repo is useless and only increase size of Packages.gz | 18:12 |
| Pali | (Packages.gz is not really yo big) | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | *shrug* | 18:12 |
| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, how hard is to delete packages from extras-devel index? | 18:12 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | not exactly trivial | 18:13 |
| Pali | e.g if I prepare list of broken/unusable packages, can somebody look at it? | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sure, somebody could look at it, but there's no policy to remove a package from extras-devel, particularly not if there's no request from owner of package | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | correct way: gain maintainership of pkg if you're not already, then upload a "new version" that has only a "PLEASE DELETE ME!" remark inside | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | then eventually repo maintainer could grep all packages and actually delete those that have such remark for long enough so any other user or maintainer could have raised objections | 18:17 |
| kerio | Pali: having a dummy package is the right thing to do, anyway | 18:21 |
| kerio | so you'll also neuter the package in n900s | 18:21 |
| Pali | but still no way to remove *only* i386 package | 18:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err, wasn't there a pretty simple way to specify arch(es) to build pkg for? | 18:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if you don't feel happy with the i386 part of pkg, upload a new version that specifies arch:armel only | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I might be talking outa my arse# | 18:46 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or rather: if there's a borked package in the fremantle/i36 branch of repo, you need a new source package that builds a neutered version for i386 arch only. Probably feasible by some #ifdef | 18:48 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | or maybe simply by specifying arch:i386 only, in that void new version, so fremantle/arm branch keeps the old good version while new neutered version goes to i36 branch only | 18:50 |
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| merlin1991 | midgard should have an interface to delte packages | 19:16 |
| merlin1991 | but err it never worked for me because the buttons never showed up | 19:16 |
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