IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Wednesday, 2013-02-27

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keriomerlin1991: i can't uninstall osso-pdf-viewer without uninstalling the metapackage >:c11:41
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keriomerlin1991: btw, why are the busybox symlinks pulled in by the metapackage?14:01
Palibecause nokia14:03
keriothe symlinks weren't changed though14:11
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kerioshould cssu ship a working "su" binary?18:08
lufkerio: I think you discuss it with Docs several times ....18:12
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luffreemangordon: ping20:19
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merlin1991eta 6 mins, where's everyone?21:25
lufmerlin1991: what eta?21:26
merlin1991meeting ?21:26
lufmerlin1991: Ugh you mean meeting :D21:26
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kerioTIME21:30
lufone minute to go and arcean left :D21:30
kerioor something21:30
kerioluf: no, it's 2030 now21:30
lufkerio: you're right I'm too slow.21:30
Estel_cssu meeting just few days after last one? I remember times, when meetings were announced month before and happened 4x per year :P21:30
merlin1991luf: nope he's here21:30
lufBut only merlin1991 is there ...21:30
Estel_quote=merlin1991 "it's cssu, things here doesn't happen so fast"21:30
merlin1991arcean__ left, but arcean joined ;)21:31
Estel_less is more21:31
lufEstel_: slower is faster :D21:31
merlin1991Estel_: we didn't finish last time, so we scheduled another one21:31
luffreemangordon, pali, arcean: ping21:33
Paliluf: pong21:33
lufHmmm, 3/5 it's not enough.21:35
luffreemangordon's daughter: ping21:35
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arceanluf: merlin1991: pong21:38
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lufGood 4/521:40
lufI think we should wait for freemangordon.21:40
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Estel_when you finish meeting, couold anyone look into feasibility of my enchancement request to modest? I posted it on bugtracker21:46
Estel_it would make life easier21:47
Palihere are topics:21:50
Pali* testing new packages in cssu-devel: osso-af-utils, location-supl-fix, hildon-welcome, status-area-applet-battery21:50
Pali* kernel in cssu: https://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU_kernel_assess21:50
Pali* Estel's modest request21:50
PaliEstel_, can you post link?21:50
kerioi swear to god if you force me to reinstall hildon-welcome i'll just stop caring about the metapackage altogether21:51
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Estel_Pali,  https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1268621:55
povbotBug 12686: Allowing to highlight and copy content from mails in modest21:55
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Palifreemangordon, luf, merlin1991, arcean: ping21:57
Paliwho is still around?21:57
zeqthat works for me, hold shift, ctrl-c21:57
merlin1991I'm21:57
Paliok, we can start with Estel's request21:58
Paliwith holding shift I can select email text21:59
Paliso it works for me too21:59
PaliEstel, it is really not working on your device?21:59
Palion every email?21:59
Palior only specified one? only for html or plain text?22:00
Estel_0_o for me it doesnt wok with shift, but if I *click* shift + ctrl + c, then, *afterrwards*, I can select text via touching it, and then, ctrl + c again to copy it22:00
Estel_it's strangest way to copy mail content I've ever seen, but it indeed works22:01
Estel_thanks a lot zeq, but how the f have you discovered it?22:01
PaliEstel_, if it is ok, add some comment to bug and mark it as closed22:02
zeqEstel_: for me it works by holding shift and dragging to select, then ctl-c, not sure what you've discovered ;)22:02
lufluf: pong22:02
freemangordonPali: pong22:03
freemangordonsorry guys, overslept :)22:03
merlin1991:D22:04
Palican we move to another point? :-)22:04
luf+122:05
zeqhi freemangordon22:05
zeq:)22:05
freemangordonunfortunately I have an emergency, so I'll have to leave in an hour. And that is the reason I took a nap ;)22:05
freemangordonzeq: hi, where you've been hiding? :P22:05
freemangordondo we amiss anyone alse?22:06
freemangordon*moss22:06
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Palinext point: testing new packages: osso-af-utils, location-supl-fix, hildon-welcome, status-area-applet-battery22:06
Paliwho have installed them from cssu-devel?22:07
* merlin1991 hasn't22:07
merlin1991what's new in them?22:08
merlin1991location-supl-fix  Iknow22:08
Paliosso-af-utils, hildon-welcome and dsme now not fail if /proc/bootreason is not available and also that packages try to read bootreason from /var/lib/something...22:09
Palipackages not calling getbootstate which increasing reboot counter (if device bootreason is reboot)22:09
freemangordonPali: I guess lots of people on TMO did that22:09
freemangordon:)22:10
Paliis there any problem?22:10
freemangordonBut usually when something is available in -devel, it is announced in the appropriate thread, so testers from the community install it and report22:10
freemangordonPali: no idea, did you announce those?22:10
Palionly on irc22:10
freemangordonannounc it on TMO and ask for testers22:11
freemangordon*announce22:11
PaliI will write info to TMO devel thread22:11
freemangordonyep22:11
zeqfreemangordon: I've needed some time afk22:12
freemangordonzeq: and now you;re back?22:15
lufnext point?22:15
freemangordonyep, what is next?22:15
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^22:16
merlin1991kernel22:16
freemangordonooh, nice :)22:16
Estel_sorry guys, my son requested attention. Anyway, sure, I'll close that bug, and thanks for ultra-fast fixing ;)22:16
merlin1991and you only have 45 mins lft ;)22:16
kerioPali: i have osso-af-utils, i don't know when i installed it22:16
keriobut meh, it works22:16
zeqyes, I should be about again :) although there's a Gentoo situation I'm trying to deal with atm22:16
freemangordonmerlin1991: lets hope those will be enough22:16
Palikerio, ok22:16
freemangordonzeq: systemd? :D:D:D22:17
Estel_~gentoo zeq22:17
* infobot recompiles zeq again22:17
freemangordonPali: sorry for not following the kernel assessment on wiki, do we have lots oof work there?22:18
freemangordon*of22:18
zeqfreemangordon: nah, that works fine :P problem is multi-abi support and politics22:18
PaliI updated table for kp5222:18
Paliall nokia patches are marked as needed22:18
lufPali: I don't fully understand the table.22:19
lufIs there somewhere marking the patch as experimental/stable?22:19
lufOr what is the goal of that table?22:19
Palidecide which patch will go to cssu kernel22:19
freemangordonluf: we are trying to decide whether to include a particular patch based on what we know about it and the code22:19
PaliI wrote some info about some patches22:20
Palipatches like udf-use-hw-sector-size.diff (backported from upstream to fix bugs in 2.6.28) should be include22:21
Palid22:21
lufwiki is incredible fast now :(22:22
Palifreemangordon, another question: are you going to create repo/deb packages from 720p playback?22:24
keriocould that libgstdsp.so be put in the matching package?22:24
keriothe rest is already packaged22:24
Palithis is my question :-)22:24
kerioand if you don't care about the nokia metapackage, you can even install the official .debs properly22:25
freemangordonPali: wiki is down for me :(22:25
kerioyou need to uninstall a bunch of shit though22:25
merlin1991yep wiki is trolling me too22:25
kerioall the openmax things, you aren't going to use them anyway22:25
Palireally wiki is down, some minutes ago worked :-)22:25
merlin1991let's do the rest and hope wiki comes back22:25
merlin1991so that leaves my questions, what's new and a candidate for next -testing?22:26
lufmerlin1991: I have a fix for obexd (just on TMO not in cssu-devel)22:26
merlin1991luf: fixes what vs which version?22:26
Palioptional status menu orientation applet22:26
merlin1991Pali: we agreed on that one already ;)22:27
Paligtk22:27
lufmerlin1991: It seems all 0.4X22:27
Palimaybe status menu battery applet?22:27
lufmerlin1991: there is support for FTP/OPP over L2CAP instead of rfcomm but it's not working22:27
lufmerlin1991: you faced the bug also ...22:28
merlin1991and you fixed it by disabling?22:28
merlin1991or black magic?22:28
merlin1991or proper code? ;)22:28
Palimaybe modest? (I backported pr1.3 modest commits into modest master)22:28
Palisee: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/modest22:29
merlin1991Pali: does that mean you modest tree wasn't on par with pr 1.3 modest?22:29
merlin1991s/you/our/22:29
infobotmerlin1991 meant: Pali: does that mean our modest tree wasn't on par with pr 1.3 modest?22:29
Palimy modest tree (with that notification support) is other22:29
lufmerlin1991: just disabling.22:30
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merlin1991luf: does it fix the win problems?22:30
lufmerlin1991: as it's just new code which doesn't work properly.22:30
lufmerlin1991: yes it does.22:30
merlin1991-devel then :) and we can probably include it to next -testing because I have no idea when the repos are ready again22:31
Palifrom gitorious: there are some changes to hildon-desktop22:31
merlin1991arcean: ^^ ?22:31
Palichange for cssu enabler: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/commit/ed2c0a917b6d06881c2969b240f84e23539bd33c22:32
lufmerlin1991: what about libpng, libxml, zlib ?22:32
arceanh-d 2.2.150 is ready for -testing and 2.2.151 will be soon in -devel22:33
lufmerlin1991: It's in cssu-devel few months and it seems it's stable enough.22:33
Palithere are patches for qt-x11-maemo by arcean22:33
merlin1991Pali: I'd pair those changes with the new zone packages22:33
Paliok22:34
merlin1991arcean: dos 2.2.150 depend on the new qt already?22:34
arceanyes, it depends on the new qt22:34
Palithere are fix for upstart22:34
PalircS-late script22:34
Palidue buysbox: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/upstart/commit/775bce9a0663ebed5523e47c1dac5f12b8f8c94922:35
Palinext, patch for calendar-backend by tempura22:35
freemangordonPali: -devel?22:36
Palion gitorious22:36
freemangordonI guess someone should buil dit and put it in -devel22:37
merlin1991freemangordon: whatabout those qt patches from you re qpixmap?22:37
freemangordonbtw is the patch maker going to support that patch?22:37
merlin1991yes he said so22:37
freemangordonmerlin1991: did I push them in master?22:37
merlin1991yes you did22:37
freemangordon(sorry, still sleepy)22:38
freemangordonnetxt -testing then22:38
merlin1991http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo/commits/master lists them22:38
freemangordonok22:38
merlin1991why do we need them?22:38
freemangordon"Allow using QPixmap outside GUI thread when using raster" :)22:39
freemangordonwe need them for embedlite22:39
Palinext there are changes in osso-gnomevfs-extra by luf22:39
freemangordonPali: wait a minute22:39
freemangordonmerlin1991: this patch is backport from 4.822:39
merlin1991ah okay22:39
freemangordonand it is included in ubuntu/debian 4.7.222:40
Palipatch for vte: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/vte/commit/427eb932d47a0f0150cfbd6c82210e6e603792a622:40
lufPali: thanks I forget osso-gnomevfs-extra ... so also libhildonfm2 (dependency)22:40
freemangordonluf: and ...-extras22:40
Palipatch for osso-xterm: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-xterm/commit/22276176bcb8dcce29432b61fb6fd00ea8f3bde722:40
merlin1991okay so far I've got gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib22:41
freemangordonPali: wait, one-by-one :)22:41
freemangordonluf: scratch that22:41
luffreemangordon: why?22:42
freemangordonmerlin1991: add libhildonfm2 and osso-gnomevfs-extra22:42
Palithere is something in pulseaudio too (Friday January 11 2013)22:42
freemangordonooh, yes22:42
merlin1991Pali: you were supposed to check something there22:42
merlin1991did you?22:42
freemangordonPA is tested on -thumb22:42
Paliluf's patch: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commit/ce718542ec4b86c73793cfd48d25bfbf048ebda122:43
Palicore: Remove unused debug name from new LIFO style flist implementation22:43
merlin1991what's new in libhildonfm and osso-gnomevfs-extra22:43
freemangordonmerlin1991: obexd support22:43
Paliand https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/pulseaudio/commit/e69ad28eb1e423f590ad340f6c378e27c17c5a0b22:43
Paliconfig: add config support for playing sound from AudioSource22:43
freemangordonluf: I think we need osso-gnomevfs too22:43
freemangordonluf: do we?22:43
freemangordonPali: slow down a bit please :)22:43
Paliok :-) but we have irc log22:44
Paliwhich is better than that gitorious log which I trying to parse...22:44
freemangordonluf: re "scratch that" - I didn't see "<luf> Pali: thanks I forget osso-gnomevfs-extra ... so also"22:44
freemangordonluf: so scratch mine "<freemangordon> luf: and ...-extras" :)22:45
luffreemangordon: I didn't touch it as I remember (osso-gnomevfs)22:45
freemangordonluf: lets check on gitorious22:45
merlin1991hildonfm changes, do they apply to newer bluez only or also current bluez?22:46
Palilibhildonfm patch by luf: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libhildonfm/commit/9fc59e4e274237b2595dbc2dcde38a999ae37d4722:46
luffreemangordon: just yours pushes to osso-gnome-vfs222:46
freemangordonmerlin1991: both22:46
lufmerlin1991: bluez422:46
freemangordonluf: yes, you're right22:46
merlin1991luf: which bluez is on stock?22:47
freemangordon4.60 iirc22:47
lufmerlin1991: so also stock and also the new one. The old implementation was for something else.22:47
Palifreemangordon, maybe your osso-systemui?22:47
merlin1991luf: thanks22:47
freemangordonPali: isn't it in -testing already?22:47
freemangordonif not, then yes22:47
PaliI do not know, I'm asking :-)22:47
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^?22:48
lufmerlin1991: I reimplemented it for pure blues.22:48
PaliI'm looking at gitorious log22:48
freemangordonooh, osso-tklock22:48
freemangordon*systemui-tklock22:48
Palimerlin1991, can you write current list of packages?22:48
freemangordonmerlin1991: so, osso-systemui-tklock22:49
merlin1991okay so far I've got gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib, libhildonfm, osso-systemui-tklock22:49
freemangordonmerlin1991: add osso-gnomevfs-extra22:49
merlin1991which source package?22:49
freemangordonhttp://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-gnomevfs-extra22:50
merlin1991ah k22:50
Palimerlin1991, ok, can you look at osso-xterm, vte, upstart and upstart?22:51
Paliand calendar-backend22:52
merlin1991luf: silly question, gnome-vfs-extra does it still work with stock bluez?22:52
merlin1991Pali: osso-xterm, vte and updstart look good22:52
lufmerlin1991: sure. It's in cssu-devel22:52
Paliok22:52
freemangordonmerlin1991: I am on stock bluez :)22:53
freemangordonand yes, it works22:53
merlin1991so the list is gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib, libhildonfm, osso-systemui-tklock, osso-xterm, vte, upstart, gnome-vfs-extra22:53
Palimerlin1991: and pulseaudio22:53
Palilook22:53
freemangordonyep, PA22:53
lufmerlin1991: gnome-vfs-extra = osso-gnomevfs-extra22:54
freemangordonPali: hmm, upgrading upstart once again will break those with ext4. again :)22:54
Paliah :-(22:54
Palibut there is bug in rcS-late for panic info buffer in kernel22:54
Palidue stupid busybox...22:54
luffreemangordon: what about microb-engine with system libpng+zlib ?22:54
luffreemangordon: isn't it tested in thumb?22:55
freemangordonPali: I know, it is not stock config, but still, if we workaround it somehow it will be better. Not that I insist on that, just proposing22:55
freemangordonluf: It works ok on -thumb22:55
freemangordonyes22:55
Palifreemangordon, I'm preparing patches for remove hardcoded ext422:56
merlin1991so the list is gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib, libhildonfm, osso-systemui-tklock, osso-xterm, vte, upstart, osso-gnomevfs-extra, pulseaudio22:56
luffreemangordon: +1 to put it into cssu-testing (microb-engine)22:56
Palifreemangordon, and patches to disable autogenerating fstab22:56
Palibut patches are not ready yet22:56
freemangordonPali: lets include them first then (upstart)22:56
merlin1991freemangordon: you've got to run in a minute, right?22:57
freemangordonluf: agree, but I think that should pass -devel first22:57
freemangordonmerlin1991: in 5-10 minutes22:57
Palimerlin1991, can you look at calendar patches? if are somewhere (-devel?)22:57
merlin1991they are nowhere yet, I can put them into -devel22:57
merlin1991so far they only run on his device22:58
luffreemangordon: It's in thumb and it's more tested than -devel ...22:58
freemangordonmerlin1991: keep in mind, you should be VERY VERY careful when prepering -mp for zlib and libxml22:58
merlin1991care to enlighten me?22:58
freemangordoncheck the -thumb branch for those 3 packages22:59
freemangordonthe point is that you have to be sure there is no old version of either packages installed before reboot22:59
merlin1991ah yeah, they have to be upgraded at the same time23:00
luffreemangordon. merlin1991: as I remember it needs two way recompile ...23:00
freemangordonmerlin1991: that one too23:00
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merlin1991was it zlib then libxml ?23:01
merlin1991or worse?23:01
lufmerlin1991: no libxml first23:01
freemangordonit is 3-step process :D23:01
lufmerlin1991: libxml contains patch to use zlib correctly23:01
Palimerlin1991, include also maemo-tvout-control23:02
lufmerlin1991: new libxml can work with stock zlib23:02
Palithere is trivial change: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/maemo-tvout-control/commit/79143595aa97174b26b091a344aee51419aa870a23:02
freemangordonmerlin1991: I don;t have time now, will explain in the next couple of days23:02
merlin1991okay23:02
lufBut there were problem with libpng+zlib ... It's somewhere in log from freemangordon23:02
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Palimerlin1991: and maybe profiled23:03
lufBTW I'll be on business trip in DE next week (no idea if I'll have wifi in hotel).23:03
freemangordonluf: libpng? no such problem here, runs like charm in -thumb23:03
merlin1991okay so I'll harass freemangordon re zlib/libxml in the future days23:03
freemangordon*works23:03
luffreemangordon: only with no 3 step compilation ...23:03
merlin1991Pali: yep that looks good23:03
freemangordonmerlin1991: :nod:23:03
Palimerlin1991, is new profile applet in -testing?23:04
freemangordonluf: no, no 3 step for libpng23:04
luffreemangordon: ok I don't know directly which one (if libpng or zlib)23:04
freemangordonluf: this is only for zlib/libxml, you need to tweak the control files on every step23:04
freemangordonluf: zlib23:04
luffreemangordon: Aha ok. My poor memory.23:04
merlin1991Pali: yep,  * profile-status-menu-plugin: rewritten, shows all profiles (Tmaemo7)23:04
Palimerlin1991, there is also patch by jonwil for connui-home-cellular23:05
Palihttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/connui-home-cellular/commit/4291448ebe896f9e9f0cda3131bb201582c5d96323:05
freemangordonguys, gtg, night. if everything is ok, will be back in 3-4 hours :D23:05
merlin1991hm I'll try to reach jonwil about that patch23:06
merlin1991Pali: more stuff to come or is that about it?23:06
Palimerlin1991, which version of dsme we have in testing?23:07
merlin1991afaik we never touched dsme?23:07
lufmerlin1991: jonwil fixed the problem with returning from roaming.23:07
lufIt's in cssu-devel23:07
merlin1991ah k23:07
Palifor month this patch is in -devel: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/dsme/commit/ce38f68456d9e554482e98a7376622e1aa962d6223:08
Paliadding -p for dsmetool23:08
lufmerlin1991: but freemangordon didn't like the code style23:08
merlin1991ah yeah I remember the rage about strdup("NULL")23:08
Palimerlin1991, but mark that commit for dsme23:08
merlin1991or rather g_strdup("NULL");23:09
Pali(next commit is for not for testing)23:09
merlin1991so the list is gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib, libhildonfm, osso-systemui-tklock, osso-xterm, vte, upstart, osso-gnomevfs-extra, pulseaudio, dsme (0.60.49+0cssu1), connui-home-cellular23:09
lufI'll try push fixed obexd in csuu-devel till end of next week.23:10
merlin1991luf: did you get anywhere with writing up a small howto to use the new loopback module re bluetooth audio?23:10
PaliI'm still reading gitorious log....23:10
lufmerlin1991: not yet :( I'm too lazy for writing it. I have to do it I know ...23:11
Palicamera-ui patch: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/camera-ui/commit/1375e28c8e7d9455b35e7a56c5f4a6678d7cc67f23:12
lufmerlin1991: I think also microb-engine (it's already tested in thumb - no idea why freemangordon want to put it also into -devel first). But for sure freemangordon has tha last word on it.23:12
Palimerget December 25, 2012 by freemangordon23:12
Palimerlin1991, can you look if this is already in -testing?23:12
merlin1991I think it is, let me check23:13
merlin1991Pali: part of tmaemo623:13
Paliand check if this openssl is also in -testing: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/openssl/commit/808bbf4c04ec6715c524ab7457cd0ef6423c78d723:13
Paliok23:13
merlin1991also tmaemo623:13
Paliok23:14
merlin1991so you reached the end?23:14
PaliI'm at Saturday December 22 201223:14
freemangordonluf: merlin1991: I am ok for microb-engine to be included, just make sure someone tested it before inclusion, I didn;t do that for non-thumb23:14
freemangordonthat's my concern23:14
merlin1991yeah I'll have to try to compile it with the image23:14
merlin1991because IT DOESN'T ON MY SB23:15
merlin1991which I still want to know WHY :D23:15
lufmerlin1991: :D23:15
PaliI belive we have enought (if I do not forget someting)23:15
merlin1991gtk, obexd, qt, hd (2.2.150), modest, libpng, libxml, zlib, libhildonfm, osso-systemui-tklock, osso-xterm, vte, upstart, osso-gnomevfs-extra, pulseaudio, dsme (0.60.49+0cssu1), connui-home-cellular, microb-engine (die, die, die)23:16
merlin1991freemangordon: does the libpng include the apng patches?23:16
merlin1991because afaik mcirob-engine is patched to use system libs?23:16
freemangordonit should do23:16
freemangordoncheck on gitorious23:16
freemangordonhttp://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libpng/commit/f28c4084071fd518fbb891d89827d770a37132d823:17
freemangordonooh, wait23:17
freemangordonluf: there was something to be fixed in -dev package23:18
merlin1991hm microb-engine in master has basically no patches23:18
Palimerlin1991, when you will compile modest, check if all patches between -testing and modest master are OK for new -testing23:18
freemangordonmerlin1991: yes, it is just recompiled with system zlib and libpng23:18
merlin1991which commit does that?23:18
luffreemangordon: what?23:19
PaliI do not know which are new commits for -testings23:19
freemangordonluf: something with "shlibs" file23:19
PaliI cherry picked modest PR1.3 commits which was not in master23:19
luffreemangordon: I don't know about what are you talking :) What package?23:19
freemangordonluf: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libpng/blobs/master/debian/libpng12-0.shlibs23:20
Palibecause that commits was in PR1.3 branch (which is not part of master!) it should be safe23:20
Palicommits fixing more bugs on BMO23:20
freemangordonwe should increase the version, so binaries compiled against it to refuse to install with older libpng23:20
freemangordonor was it for zlib?23:20
freemangordonhowever, I am out23:20
luffreemangordon: you said there were no problem with libpng ...23:21
merlin1991freemangordon: the use system libpng and zlib commits are only in thumb-testing23:21
merlin1991(microb that is)23:21
freemangordonmerlin1991: cherry-pich the patches23:21
freemangordon*pick23:21
luffreemangordon: zlib was/is the problematic package23:21
freemangordonbye23:22
luffreemangordon: but we can change shlibs as apng support ...23:22
luffreemangordon: bye23:22
merlin1991okay23:24
merlin1991re bugs / kernel I suggest we postpone23:25
merlin1991luf: you're in de the full next week?23:26
merlin1991Pali, arcean whatabout you guys next week?23:28
arceanas long as it won't be Thursday I'm ok ;)23:29
PaliWed, Fri, Sat, Sun is ok23:29
lufmerlin1991: yes for BW. Since Sun afternoon till Fri afternoon/night (maybe Sat morning)23:30
merlin1991if you have wlan, do you even have time in the evening/night? :D23:31
lufmerlin1991: I hope I'll have wifi in hotel (but I'll know it on Sun/Mon).23:31
lufmerlin1991: Yes. I'll have. Nothing interesting in DE ;)23:31
luf*time23:32
merlin1991last few business trips I had I managed to get maybe 3 hrs of free time in a full BW :D23:32
lufmerlin1991: Well it should happen but I don't expect it.23:32
merlin1991just tell us when you know :)23:32
merlin1991whatabout the weekend?23:33
merlin1991or do you want that for yourself after a week in crazy de? :D23:33
merlin1991I'd say we target wed/friday depending on luf, and if he can't the weekend / the week after next week? <-- Pali, arcean luf ?23:34
arceansure23:34
merlin1991arcean: I'll finally be able to throw h-d bugs at you ;)23:35
arceannice :D23:35
Paliok23:36
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lufmerlin1991: Fri is not good choise (I'll be on the way back to home).23:37
merlin1991okay wed/weekend/week after depending on you then :)23:38
lufmerlin1991: ok23:38
merlin1991perfect, I'll be off then23:38
lufmee too.23:39
lufBye.23:39
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