IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Tuesday, 2013-01-15

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Palimerlin1991, can you create getbootstate and initrd-progs repos on cssu gitorious?01:03
PaliI have OSS replacement for that two packages01:03
Paliand next I have patches for osso-af-utils, hildon-welcome and dsme to not fail if /proc/bootreason not exists01:04
Palithese patches removing dependency on /proc/bootreason from maemo system and kernel without /proc/bootreason could be bootable on maemo too01:05
Palilet me know if you create repositories01:06
Palinow going offline...01:06
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freemangordonkerio: a couple of packages in -thumb, you may want to upgrade09:10
keriofreemangordon: holy upgrades batman09:42
freemangordon:)09:42
kerioi'm probably seeing more than usual, from -devel09:42
freemangordonkerio: disable it09:43
kerioor did you upgrade everything?09:43
freemangordonmicrob,qt,h-d and PA09:43
freemangordon(though I will have to issue one more h-d update as arcean pushed a commit in h-d 2 hours after I uploaded it in the repo)09:44
keriooh, then it's ok09:45
freemangordonhowever, arcean has left an eastern egg in h-d, portrait lock actually works :D:D:D09:45
keriowait, i'm away from a computer, why am i updating09:45
freemangordonkerio: why do you need a computer?09:46
keriobackups09:52
kerioand battery09:53
freemangordonbackups,backups... you don't need them :P09:58
keriobackupped10:08
kerioare you going to push the update?10:09
keriofreemangordon:10:15
keriofreemangordon: updated, didn't blow up10:41
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freemangordonkerio: I'll wait h-d and gvfs-extra development to cease first11:00
freemangordonalso I think we have a lenghty discussion on orientation lock applet11:00
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freemangordonarcean: do you plan more updates to h-d for now?12:49
freemangordonBTW great job :)12:49
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luffreemangordon: I see only 2 BT devices in the log ...12:57
luffreemangordon: I also think more about dynamic device loading and there is problem that Bluetooth entry is only shown when there is at least on BT device ... Also preloading is a problem as I don't want activate BT when you enter filemanager ...12:58
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freemangordonluf: yep, it happens with only 2 devices too13:24
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arceanfreemangordon: no, version 2.2.149 is ready to release13:37
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luffreemangordon: maybe range problem. I have 2 devices where one is down and I don't see such problem. I'll check it once more.14:19
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jonwilhi14:24
freemangordonjonwil: hi15:00
freemangordonluf: could be, though the devices were sitting on the table with 20 mc of distance :D15:01
jonwilStill trying to decide what to investigate next, current top candidate is the mess that is ICD15:02
freemangordonarcean: i'll bump the version in debian/changelog a bit (to -10), do you mind15:47
freemangordon?15:47
freemangordonoops, to .15015:48
arceanfreemangordon: if there's no change in sources, bump only the package version ie make it 2.2.149-216:16
luffreemangordon: log says it clearly: Jan 14 17:59:25 Nokia-N900 bluetoothd[990]: Unable to get service record: Host is down (112) (and the line one below with BDA = BT MAC)16:17
freemangordonarcean: you pushed one more commit16:18
freemangordonarcean: but ok, i'll add -2 (for exampe)16:18
arceanfreemangordon: yes, but under 149 badge :P16:18
freemangordonarcean: yes, but that was after I uploaded it in -thumb repo :D16:19
luffreemangordon: add -thumb instead of -2 ? :D16:19
arceanfreemangordon: :D16:19
freemangordonluf: could do that too16:20
arceanlets say if there's no tag in repo for new version, then it's not finished16:20
freemangordonarcean: ok, will remember for the future :)16:20
arceanfreemangordon: ok :)16:20
luffreemangordon: what is BDA for the device which is wrongly ignored?16:21
arceanor maybe I should use 2.2.149~1 when it's unreleased and change it to 2.2.149-1 when it's ready?16:22
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freemangordonluf: A8:7B:39:XX:XX:XX16:31
lufYeah this is reported as Host is donw.16:32
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freemangordonluf: but it was up, with HF attached (iirc)16:41
lufMaybe that's the problem.16:54
luffreemangordon: can you try it with HF disconnected?16:55
lufI have no idea because this is returned from bluez. I don't think it's osso-gnomevfs-extra related (I should be wrong about it).16:55
luffreemangordon: just curious - are you using stock bluez (4.60)?17:27
freemangordonstock17:31
freemangordonluf: well, could be some intefernce with wifi17:31
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freemangordonaapo: zeq tried to do that, it (glibc) compiles, but there was some problem with l18n iirc19:00
aapofreemangordon: installing it to the device or running or linking against it?19:01
freemangordonaapo: i know it will bring some speed benefit, but I am afraid i'll break something :D19:01
freemangordonaapo: when installed on the device19:02
freemangordonthere was no translation, according to zeq19:02
aapoI will test19:02
freemangordoni.e. instead of "phone" you got some "oc_li_phone_ui" (I withdraw that from the air, but you got the idea)19:03
freemangordonaapo: great, feel free to ask if anything19:03
freemangordonaapo: BTW i'd always prefer IRC over TMO for such discussions ;)19:03
freemangordonaapo: IIRC you were the one to build newer glibc, ain't?19:04
aapofreemangordon: yes19:04
freemangordonwhat was the problem with it, some apps not working?19:05
aapoI'm currently working with glib-2.35.319:05
freemangordon"working"?19:05
aapowrong paste19:05
freemangordonit is installed on your device?19:05
aapowe tried glibc from meego, but didn't get it to boot on device19:06
aaponow I'm hacking with libglib as it seems easier19:07
freemangordonany clue why? did you try to copy it in /opt/somedir and do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/somedir xterm?19:07
freemangordonfor example19:07
freemangordonto see if there are some missing symbols19:07
aapoI don't remember, I will search from my logs19:08
freemangordonwell, it is not so important19:08
freemangordonif we are to upgrade libc, i'd rather take the one from debian or ubuntu19:09
freemangordonmeego/harm stuff is usually tailored too much19:09
freemangordon(afaik)19:09
aapoI think same. My utopia is to get rid as much Nokia stuff and go more close to debian19:12
freemangordonaapo: actually we are slowly getting there, (read libcurl, libpng, zlib, etc.). though our biggest and for now unsolvable problem is PA19:13
aapodo you think two more eyes will help?19:14
freemangordondo you ask if we need developers in CSSU? elaborate please.19:14
aapoI meant for PA, but of course in general I would like to hear more about goals os CSSU19:16
freemangordonaapo: well, the goal(as I get them) is to keep fremantle and n900 alive for as long as possible. upgrading whatever is possible and is making sense in the meantime.19:18
freemangordon*goals19:18
aaposo if (one day) it is possible upgrade and recompile every package of maemo5, cssu will do it19:18
freemangordonhave in mind this is not necessarily what the maintainre(s) think :D19:19
freemangordonaapo: where it was the last time you've checked CSSU repo on gitorious?19:19
aapofreemangordon: I think there are now more repositories than when I last checked19:20
freemangordonyep :). at least 4 of them are upstream versions (excluding here the stuff like h-d where we're the upstream)19:22
aaponow I also see that there are 5 commits more for glibc than what I got with apt-get source19:22
freemangordonaapo: yep. gcc intrinstics are backported19:23
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DocScrutinizer05anybody got that friggin link from N950?23:01
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: none of us afaik. just request it, i guess you'll receive the link23:20
DocScrutinizer05would need to use tmo PM, I honestly hate it like the plague23:20
freemangordonpost on TMO for someone who has it to PM/MAIL it to you23:21
DocScrutinizer05If anybody likes me to get that file and host it 'somewhere', send me some data in a /query23:22
freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: though I bet Pali has it already :D23:23
DocScrutinizer05that's why I asked here :-)23:23
DocScrutinizer05I think it shouldn't vanish in oblivion and bitrot on somebody's private HDD23:24
arceanhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315257&postcount=19323:25
arcean:P23:25
freemangordonwhat was the bet for? :D:D:D23:26
arceanhehe23:27
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arceanfreemangordon: do you remember why it's here? https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/mb/hd-dialog.c#line19023:27
DocScrutinizer05doesn't sound good nevertheless, I thought it been about src, not image23:28
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freemangordonarcean: to disable rotation for dialogs in task navigator which parent does not support portrait23:29
arceanfreemangordon: sometimes this IF statement is true for portrait dialogs so they're not visible23:29
freemangordoni.e. has some atom set23:29
freemangordonarcean: && hd_task_navigator_get_disable_portrait(client)23:30
arceanfor example, when you want to call someone from the Telephone app23:30
arceanyou get only blured background without a dialog with buttons to call him23:30
freemangordonarcean: got it, seems the atom does not get removed23:30
freemangordonarcean: yep, saw that today23:30
freemangordonarcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line458423:32
freemangordonthat atom23:32
arceanyeah23:33
arceanthat makes sense23:33
freemangordonseems hd_task_navigator_set_disable_portrait(False) does not get called when it should be23:33
freemangordonmaybe on exit from tasknav, IDK23:33
arceanI hope so23:33
arcean:)23:33
freemangordoni.e. iterate (or keep a list of windows which had this atom set) and remove it on exit from tasknav23:34
freemangordonarcean: you did a lot of changes since i wrote that code, it was written some year (or more) ago :)23:35
arceanit drives me mad since a couple of months :P23:36
arceanand it's hard to reproduce23:36
freemangordonI see23:36
freemangordonabyway, check where hd_task_navigator_set_disable_portrait is called23:36
freemangordon*anyway23:37
freemangordonarcean: here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line409823:38
freemangordonarcean: or even better here https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/home/hd-task-navigator.c#line260523:38
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freemangordonarcean: or simply add && STATE_IS_TASKNAV(hd_render_manager_get_state()23:42
freemangordonhmm, I like ^^^ more23:43
freemangordonarcean: as it is better to have the correct atom set when entering tasknav23:44
arceanok, I'll check how it behaves now23:48
freemangordonarcean: you've changed if() ?23:48
arceanwhich one?23:48
freemangordonhttps://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/blobs/cfda57ac8a6d62c398da1dbe6b305c044bb01aaa/src/mb/hd-dialog.c#line19023:49
freemangordonthat one23:49
arceanwith "&& STATE_IS_TASKNAV(hd_render_manager_get_state()" ?23:49
freemangordonyep23:49
arceanhmm currently I have this as a workaround :P23:50
freemangordonhehe. why workaround, this is the correct fix23:50
freemangordonIMO23:50
arceanbut if it's about task navigator atom, it should be correct23:50
arceanyes ;)23:50
freemangordonwasn't there STATE_IS_TASKNAV_PORTRAIT()?23:51
arceannope23:51
freemangordonoh, I meant - I think there is such macro defined, so you can use it instead of STATE_IS_PORTRAIT() && STATE_IS_TASKNAV()23:52
freemangordonbut, well, both will do the job23:52

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