IRC log of #maemo-ssu for Sunday, 2013-01-13

luffreemangordon: do you know about this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85494&page=3 ?00:12
freemangordonlemme check00:12
freemangordonluf: yah00:12
freemangordonyeah00:12
freemangordonsaw it00:12
freemangordonluf: re your microb-engine questio - i compiled it with system zlib and libpng and installed it on my primary00:13
freemangordonwanna run it for a couple of days to see how it will behave00:13
freemangordonthumb branch that is, but it should not make any difference00:14
freemangordonluf: btw are correct libxml and zlib in -devel?00:14
keriofreemangordon: my system boots with them, so i would assume so00:14
freemangordonkerio: your system is -thumb00:15
keriooh, right00:15
luffreemangordon: as far as I know then yes. I didn't upload libxml2-2.8.0 :)00:16
luffreemangordon: anything concrete why are you asking?00:16
luffreemangordon: another question. Did the user with obexd problems (thumb 7) report something new? I lost it ...00:20
freemangordonluf: The point is - is it safe to upload ARM microb-engine using system libpng and zlib to -devel, i.e. if all dependencies are in place00:26
freemangordonluf: re obexd -no, nothing in addition00:26
freemangordonluf: so, you think it is safe to use libxml2.8?00:26
freemangordonluf: TBH i think we should stop at this point (after microb-engine and libxml 2.8) and test for a while00:27
luffreemangordon: I'm not sure if latest libpng (with apng) is in cssu-devel.00:27
freemangordonotherwise we risk if something breaks to be clueless about the reason00:28
freemangordonluf: that was my question :)00:28
lufI think we can wait with libxml 2.8.00:28
freemangordonluf: yep, sounds sane00:28
freemangordonwe have way beyond critical mass for the next update00:29
freemangordonwe can use the time while merlin1991 is skiing to test00:29
luf:D00:30
freemangordonarcean_: what is the situation with Qt and h-d, are they in -devel yet?00:30
freemangordonluf: ;)00:30
luffreemangordon: any idea how to check apng support in libpng?00:31
freemangordonluf: try to compile microb-engine with it00:31
freemangordonor open the lib in hex editor and search for apng00:31
arcean_freemangordon: yes, they're00:31
arcean_http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311611&postcount=6500:31
freemangordonarcean_: thanks, seems i've missed that00:32
luflibpng was added to the cssu-devel 2013-01-03 22:10:0700:32
freemangordonluf: if there is apng, it should be written in changelog00:33
freemangordonarcean_: are merges pushed on gitorious CSSU repo?00:33
freemangordonor only MRs00:33
arcean_hmm, not yet00:34
freemangordonarcean_: please, ask merlin1991 to merge them, I want to test those, but won't revert to ARM :D00:35
freemangordonesp for Qt00:35
arcean_there's one important commit for Qt: http://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arceans-qt-x11-maemo/commit/bd952eede40ad0e0ee368e0a5a65566d93667b1900:35
freemangordonarcean_: yes, I saw it00:35
freemangordonarcean_: BTW I think you have commit/push rights for CSSU repo, why don;t you just use them?00:36
arcean_those changes were way too risky to commit them directly to the cssu repo00:37
arcean_:P00:37
freemangordonarcean_: we can always revert ;)00:38
arcean_that's another approach :D00:38
freemangordonarcean_: after all all of us are doing risky changes in critical system libs :)00:38
luffreemangordon: libpng 0cssu3 is in cssu-devel. So I think it's the latest ...00:39
arcean_hehe00:39
freemangordonarcean_: if changes were commited in master, i'd have run h-d and cssu on my primary for at least 3 days :D00:40
freemangordonluf: well then, i'll try tomorrow to push microb-engine too00:40
freemangordonluf: gvfs-extras with your latest changes is on devel, ain't?00:41
freemangordons/on/in/00:41
infobotfreemangordon meant: luf: gvfs-extras with your latest changes is in devel, ain't?00:41
luffreemangordon: great00:42
freemangordonluf: hmm?00:42
luffreemangordon: right00:42
freemangordoni was asking :D00:42
freemangordondid you upload it in -devel?00:42
luffreemangordon: First you use normal sentence (about microb-engine) ... => great After that you asked => right ;)00:43
freemangordonsorry for asking too many questions, i want to check if averything we'll gonna push in the next -testing is gonna be tested00:43
lufAll my latest except libxml 2.8.0 is in cssu-devel (see the TMO) and in git.00:43
freemangordonluf: aah, ok00:43
lufI have no problem with questions.00:44
freemangordon:)00:44
lufIt's better than silence. I have no info is someone tested it (except you).00:44
freemangordonluf: usually this is enough :D:D:D00:47
freemangordonyou know I am picky o the details :P00:47
freemangordon*on00:47
lufYes the highest award for sysops ;p00:47
freemangordon?00:48
freemangordonsorry, I am few jacks ahead, elaborate a bit :D00:48
lufSilence is the highest award for sys adms (I'm sysadm) ;)00:49
freemangordonaah, ok :D00:49
luffreemangordon: I hope I'll test tomorrow or following day the microb-engine. Now I need some rest. It were hard days last week or two.00:55
arcean_merge requests created ;)00:55
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PaliTHIS is very very bad nokia joke: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/apt/blobs/master/methods/netrc.cc#line21500:56
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freemangordonPali: who is JOSHUA?00:57
Palino idea00:58
freemangordonbtw what that code do?00:58
Palibut storing some password for apt-get to source file...00:58
freemangordonwell, "&& Uri.Password.empty () == true && Uri.User.empty () == true"00:59
Paliseems that apt sending Uri.User = string ("NOKIA-OSSO-") + string (product_hardware); as user name00:59
freemangordonPali: are you serching for a way to fix the expired certificates?00:59
Palineed to run tcpdump and show it in wireshark01:00
Paliwhat our apt-get doing01:00
Paliseems that apt-get is pacthed by nokia01:00
Paliwe do not have normal apt in maemo :-(01:00
freemangordondoes that do any harm?01:00
PaliI do not know what it doing...01:01
PaliMAG did not imported full history to git01:01
freemangordon:(01:01
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DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: JOSHUA!!! JOSHUA!!!!! will you watch your movies, son?01:58
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DocScrutinizer05http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_(name)#Fictional_characters  >>American movie: Joshua (an AI machine from the 1983 WarGames named for the deceased son of the character that designed the AI system)<<02:01
DocScrutinizer05it by incidence been the password to log in to that AI machine, iirc02:02
* DocScrutinizer05 used a pretty identically hard coded master password "JOSHUA" in 198502:03
Pali:D:D02:22
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DocScrutinizer05>>Two of his hacker friends explain the concept of a backdoor password and suggest tracking down the Falken referenced in "Falken's Maze", the first game listed. David discovers that Stephen Falken is an early artificial intelligence researcher, and guesses correctly that his dead son's name "Joshua" is the backdoor password.<< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames02:47
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DocScrutinizer05look, that's why you need old grumpy farts like me ;-D02:56
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* kerio watched wargames multiple times11:00
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: :D:D:D11:38
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* merlin1991 watched wargames aswell, forgot it was joshua though12:35
freemangordonmerlin1991: merge arcean's requests please12:35
merlin1991I'll get to it when I'm on the train to the hotel12:35
merlin1991atm I can't12:35
freemangordonok12:35
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merlin1991hm train offer free wifi, but it sucks!20:03
merlin1991s/offer/offers/20:03
infobotmerlin1991 meant: hm train offers free wifi, but it sucks!20:03
merlin1991shit I don't have a clone of qt here20:05
merlin1991freemangordon, arcean can you do a du -hs on the .git dir in your local qt copy?20:05
arceanmerlin1991: I have only tarball here, ~146MB20:08
merlin1991time to rape my umts connection I guess20:08
merlin1991btw arcean what were the bugs reported by hxka?20:09
arceanmerlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1309256&postcount=107620:10
merlin1991and what's the rationale behind 89b9455fb4776c7ad6e9a9204e4366b20c29c31f ?20:11
merlin1991if I see this right you reduced the verison number there20:11
arceanah, yeah. 2.2.147.90 is in cssu-devel20:12
arceanso it will be 1:1 with -devel20:12
merlin1991ah okay20:19
merlin1991currently updating my scratchbox :D20:21
merlin1991but my n900 is acting up, I'll probably do qt when I'm there20:22
arceansure20:22
merlin1991seems like yet another modem is on its way to go dead :/20:23
merlin1991a reboot brought me back online though20:23
arceanhehe20:24
merlin1991lets try a git clone of qt xD20:25
arceanyeah, It'll take some time :D20:25
merlin1991rofl h-d does not build-depend on autotools20:27
merlin1991and libtool20:28
merlin1991configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."  what am I missing now?20:29
merlin1991(this is a pretty much virgin scratchbox)20:29
keriomerlin1991: if i had to guess20:30
kerioi'd say that you're missing install-sh or install.sh20:30
merlin1991kerio: :D20:30
merlin1991on the upside this train is going ~200km/h so it's faster than by car, on the downside, the connection sucks big time20:41
keriomerlin1991: are you using the train's wifi?20:42
merlin1991the train wifi is even worse than my n900 :D20:42
kerioworse how?20:42
merlin1991but the n900 drops connection too20:42
merlin1991well the train wifi has a stable outside connection for maybe 10% of the time20:42
keriobtw, what do you guys use for "tethering"?20:42
merlin1991with the n900 I reach at least 80% :D20:42
merlin1991usb cable and homemade script :D20:43
merlin1991http://paste.debian.net/224320/20:44
ShadowJKbluetooth dun mostly20:45
ShadowJKRarely through usb20:45
merlin1991does bluetooth use more or less power than usb?20:45
ShadowJKUsb is a constant 80mA powerdraw, bluetooth atleast goes down to using almost nothing if there's no data moving20:46
merlin1991I'm using usb over wlan because that's obviously low power compared, but now that I have bluetooth in here I could use that (if it maeks any sense)20:46
merlin1991hm gotta set up bluetooth dun then :D20:47
ShadowJKIf you're using 3g on N900, the times when it goes from "3.5g" to "3g" is opportunity for saving power20:47
ShadowJKin statusbar20:47
kerioShadowJK: but... if you have usb, the n900 is getting charged20:48
kerioso it's like negative power draw20:48
kerioalso, bt pan > bt dun20:48
merlin1991unless your laptop is on battery aswell20:48
merlin1991then you want minimal power drain20:49
kerioof course your laptop isn't on battery as well20:49
kerioyou're on a train20:49
merlin1991well they don't have outlets here that long20:49
merlin1991and the regional trains still are pretty bare bones20:49
merlin1991--> trains in austria suck20:49
merlin1991hm gotta turn off my setup in time though when I hit the austria/germany border20:50
merlin1991data roaming ain't fun20:50
keriouse the train's wifi!20:50
merlin1991it drops my quassel connection within seconds20:52
merlin1991and the resync takes forever because I have 130 open channels20:52
keriohahahaha20:53
keriohow can you follow 130 channels?20:53
merlin1991well I follow 20 the others I just read when I find the time20:53
merlin1991also it does count pm into "channels" on sync20:54
merlin1991so a few of those are not real channels :)20:54
keriowhat's sync, btw'20:55
kerio?20:55
merlin1991when the client connects to the core it syncs a (configureable) amount of lines into the buffers20:56
merlin1991ie in my case I sync back 200 lines20:56
* merlin1991 will change that untill he has a proper connection again20:56
merlin1991hm actually by default it fetches in blocks of 200 and loads 500 per channel20:57
keriooic20:57
keriobuffer playback20:57
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freemangordonmerlin1991: no Qt here, I was waiting for you to push the commits, so me to clone21:20
merlin1991I should arrive in 2.5 hrs there, I tried to clone here, but the connection drops too often21:20
freemangordonmerlin1991: ooh, forget about that, it is some 500MB iirc21:21
freemangordonbut why you need to clone to push a merge request? can't you do it via web interface?21:21
merlin1991the web interface only lets you commit21:22
merlin1991err comment21:22
merlin1991there is no magic merge now button21:22
freemangordonaah, fuck21:22
freemangordonmaybe it will be faster if arcean clone it and merge the changes locally21:22
* freemangordon has always tought there is a magic "merge now" button on gitorious web interface21:23
merlin1991well he could 'merge' them by simply pusing to master :D21:23
merlin1991since it is a fast-forward because nobody worked on qt in the meantime21:23
freemangordonwell, he should clone first21:23
freemangordonooh, wait ,no21:24
freemangordonarcean: I think you can add cssu as remote and push your changes21:24
freemangordonmerlin1991: ^^^ correct?21:24
merlin1991hm afaik that's what I said21:26
freemangordonmerlin1991: he is using a clone of his own repo21:27
freemangordonnot master in CSSU21:27
merlin1991well he could even do a "git push git@gitorious.org:community-ssu/qt-x11-maemo.git master"21:27
freemangordonexactly21:27
freemangordonarcean: ^^^21:28
merlin1991still what I said :D21:28
freemangordonok, ok, breathe :P21:28
freemangordonmerlin1991: your server upload speed sucks :(21:38
merlin1991huh?21:38
merlin1991it ususally kicks ass21:38
freemangordonmerlin1991: ah, wait, it is not your server21:38
freemangordonit is maemo.org21:38
merlin1991hehe21:38
freemangordonI am upgrading my armel SB21:38
freemangordonbut as I usually do that in -thumb, that is why I mistakenly thought it is yours :D21:39
freemangordonyour server kicks ass :D:D:D21:39
freemangordonthe fuck, apt-get expects ~1 hour :(21:40
freemangordondownload spped 50KB/s, great21:40
freemangordonand going down...21:40
merlin1991oh shit21:41
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merlin1991that's baaaad21:41
freemangordonwent down to 35KB/s now it is ~8021:42
freemangordonbut constantly varying in that range21:42
freemangordonwell, it seems the build of microb-engine will have to wait for a while :D21:44
merlin1991heh I know why I apt-mirrored the maemo.org sdk tools and nokia binaries repo at one point21:49
freemangordonwe should mirror CSSU repos too :)21:50
merlin1991I just fire up an instance of lighttpd and have all the lines in sources.list start with http://127.0.0.1 :D21:50
merlin1991cssu repos are mirrored21:50
freemangordonotherwise we'll spend a week re-compiling all the stuff :D21:50
merlin1991see http://maemo.merlin1991.at/apt-mirror/21:51
freemangordon:)21:51
arceanfreemangordon: merlin1991: ok, I'll push changes to cssu repo21:55
arceanonly qt or hildon-desktop also?21:55
freemangordonboth21:55
arceanok21:55
keriomerlin1991: lightify cssu-testing!21:55
merlin1991kerio: stufu21:56
merlin1991;=21:56
keriono srsly21:56
merlin1991s/=/;/21:56
kerio";;"?21:56
arceankerio: lightify? you're joking right ? :D21:56
freemangordonmerlin1991 :nod:21:56
merlin1991kerio: the packages file is 216K you can survive that21:57
kerioarcean: like http://extras-devel.merlin1991.at/21:57
kerioonly the latest version of each package21:57
arceanI use that extras-devel repo, thanks merlin1991 :)21:58
merlin1991arcean: the cssu-testing on maemo.org is kinda silly, every version of every package since the start of the cssu adventure is in there21:59
keriomerlin1991: community-testing has like 20 versions of some packages21:59
keriolike the mp21:59
merlin1991when the migration finally is done I'll pester the admins about that and the problem with libc21:59
freemangordonaah, libc :(21:59
merlin1991yeah the friggin repo didn't import it22:00
freemangordonyeah, I know22:00
merlin1991afaik X-Fade copied the setup from extras to initially set up the cssu repo, seems like he kept some sanity checks in there22:01
merlin1991though possibly I'm talking utter bs atm22:01
freemangordonwell, seems like the stuff is moving, so maybe in a month we'll be able to finish that22:01
merlin1991well in order to finish we need the kernel ;)22:01
freemangordonmerlin1991: I know22:01
freemangordonI am wating for Pali to put a sticker "stable" on KP52 and to push the patches in CSSU22:02
Paliand I'm waiting for autobuilder and extras-devel22:02
keriowe're gonna wait foreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeever22:02
freemangordonPali: I know22:02
freemangordonkerio: have a better idea?22:03
merlin1991hm I've brushed up my python skills this weekend22:03
merlin1991time to build our own autobuilder?22:03
keriofreemangordon: well, Pali could still put the "stable" sticker on kp5222:03
freemangordonkerio: no, he can;t, with a userbase consisting of 4 people22:04
merlin1991hm this feels weird22:04
merlin1991basically 90% of the people left the train at this stop22:05
freemangordon:D:D:D22:05
merlin1991incoming zombie apocalypse?22:05
freemangordonwelcome to city 1722:05
merlin1991hm what was the name of the endboss in city17?22:06
freemangordoncan't remember22:06
merlin1991I mostly remember that I'm still waiting for ep3 :D22:06
keriothe strider?22:06
freemangordoncould be22:06
keriounless you mean breen's elevator22:07
merlin1991kerio: the thingy on the top of the tower in the middle of city17 whatever its name was22:07
keriooh, you do22:07
keriothe citadel's reactor thingy22:07
freemangordonyep22:07
freemangordonit was not endboss22:07
freemangordonbut "the citadel"22:07
keriothe endboss is clearly the dark fusion reactor22:08
kerioyou kill it, and the game ends :)22:08
merlin1991the other day I played hl1 on hard, I had to realize that recent games are far too easy22:08
freemangordonhmm, iirc you catch a train :D22:08
merlin1991yep22:09
arceanfreemangordon: how's your n950 after flashing? :D22:09
kerioalso, i want gman as the hl3 final boss22:09
freemangordonno differnce, kbd bug auto-capitalizing the first couple of letters is still there22:09
merlin1991I kinda feel like compiling qt4.8 + new webkit for the n950 just to see if the browser gets any better with that22:09
freemangordonbut at least it was easier to install skype :D22:09
freemangordonmerlin1991: what is wrong with the browser?22:10
merlin1991freemangordon: twitter is fixed ;)22:10
arceanfreemangordon: I haven't seen that kbd bug22:10
merlin1991render bugs22:10
merlin1991it's missing quite a few buttons on my router config page xD22:10
freemangordonarcean: open HW kbd and type fast22:10
merlin1991for example the login button xD22:10
arceanbut I've a couple of system packages slightly newer :P22:10
arceanfrom master branch, like libmeegotouch, qt-components etc22:11
merlin1991huh, the train socket just got disabled, dafuq?22:11
freemangordonarcean: do you have debs?22:11
arceanyes, on another pc22:11
arceanfor e.g. qt-components from PR 1.3 on left and a new version on right http://i.imgur.com/6SSHG.png22:13
arceanmerlin1991: qt and h-d commits pushed to master22:20
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lufPali: did you take a look at the problem with KP52 I reported (kernel oops in usb code)?23:40
lufPali: (the NULL pointer problem)23:40
Paliluf, can you send me log again?23:40
lufPali: :) Yes I can. MMNT.23:41
freemangordonluf: wanna try microb-engine built with system zlib and libpng?23:41
lufpali: http://pastebin.com/RF2buGKE23:44
luffreemangordon: yes. Is it in cssu-devel?23:44
* luf is cleaning up the osso-gnomevfs-extra code23:44
lufmerlin1991: BTW bluez 4.99 has native support for bluetooth dun. No additional package is needed :)23:45
Paliluf, I do not know what to do with that oops...23:46
Palifreemangordon, can you look at it? ^^^23:46
luffreemangordon: great! After code cleanup I has no core dump with browserd :D23:51
freemangordonPali: PC is at __bug+0x20/0x2c23:53
Palibut what is __bug ?23:53
freemangordoncheck in do_pio_rx for some BUG();23:53
freemangordonPali: it is the kernel assert()23:54
freemangordonPali: do you have the code browsable from the inet?23:54
Paliok, I found it BUG_ON23:55
Palifreemangordon, no23:55
freemangordonBUG_ON(!(csr & MUSB_RXCSR_RXPKTRDY)); ?23:55
Paliwe have quilt patches23:55
PaliBUG_ON(!(csr & MUSB_RXCSR_RXPKTRDY));23:55
Paliyes23:55
freemangordonhmm, some spurious interrupt?23:56
freemangordonPali: if (retries-- == 0) {...23:57
freemangordonwhere TF ais retries defined? some global variable?23:57
Palino, local variable: intretries = 1000;23:58
freemangordonaah, yes23:58
Pali5 lines up23:58
freemangordonyeah, saw it23:58
freemangordonPali: I guess that code hasn't changed23:59
Paliyes, it was not changed23:59
lufSo HW problem?23:59

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