| freemangordon | merlin1991: who creates those files? | 00:00 |
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| merlin1991 | well in this case it was ham | 00:00 |
| freemangordon | as i did apt-get install --reinstall maemosec-certman-common-ca | 00:00 |
| kerio | gregoa: *poke* | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | (after manually deleting both blacklist.* files) | 00:01 |
| freemangordon | and now there is no certman.blacklist | 00:01 |
| gregoa | kerio: seems I need to add "poke" to the regex of my autoreplies :) | 00:01 |
| merlin1991 | they are from masemosec-certman-common-ca | 00:02 |
| kerio | gregoa: how does one make a .deb that installs a file in /etc/ that's not actually a config file? | 00:02 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: what I miss? why is that file not recreated? | 00:03 |
| gregoa | kerio: I think the only option is to (1) not ship it in the package and (2) create/cp/mv it in a minatainer script (postrm) | 00:03 |
| kerio | wait, really? D: | 00:03 |
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| kerio | gregoa: isn't there a way to mark a file explicitly as a conffile or as not a conffile? | 00:04 |
| freemangordon | well, restored with wget :D | 00:05 |
| merlin1991 | gregoa: when you delete a conffile, --reinstall won't place it again right? | 00:06 |
| gregoa | kerio: well, dh_installdeb marks them as conffiles automatically, and I don't know how to avoid this | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | kerio: actually who are we to mess with user's CA | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | database | 00:06 |
| gregoa | merlin1991: I think so; unless you give dpkg an extra options (something about missing conffiles) | 00:06 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: see above :) | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: IMO it is better that way | 00:06 |
| kerio | merlin1991: you could purge and reinstall | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | yeah, saw it | 00:06 |
| luf | I'm sorry to disturb you but what another meeting ;) ? | 00:07 |
| gregoa | --force-confmiss | 00:08 |
| merlin1991 | luf: good question :D | 00:08 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: wednesday? | 00:08 |
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| merlin1991 | wednesday is ok for me, luf? | 00:08 |
| luf | I can be available whole week from 21:00 CET (20:00 UTC) | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | so yes :D | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | err wut? | 00:09 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: wut what? | 00:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | optical diff for topic failed | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 00:10 |
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| merlin1991 | damn, where's acrean, I need one more guinea pig before I release this to the wild | 00:13 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ | 00:14 |
| freemangordon | luf: ^^^ | 00:14 |
| kerio | hey! >:( | 00:14 |
| kerio | fine, but i don't really want to enable another repo | 00:15 |
| kerio | can you give me the .debs? | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | no | 00:15 |
| kerio | ? | 00:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the whole purpose is to test repo delivery | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | bevore we do repo delivery | 00:16 |
| kerio | well then both i and freemangordon are useless, we're using cssu-thumb | 00:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | before even | 00:16 |
| kerio | who knows what's going on there? | 00:16 |
| freemangordon | kerio: we are not, well, at least I am not :P | 00:16 |
| * kerio complains about people having more N900s than him | 00:17 | |
| freemangordon | kerio: it does not matter if it is -thumb or -testing | 00:17 |
| freemangordon | in that particular case | 00:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since thumb only overides T partially, for the thombified pkgs. This isn't one of them though. right, freemangordon? | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | the fuuck, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311677&postcount=3313 | 00:18 |
| freemangordon | remove that crap from the repos already!!! | 00:19 |
| merlin1991 | the joys of open forums :D | 00:19 |
| * DocScrutinizer05 headdesks, hard | 00:20 | |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: please, tell whoever has access to repos now to REMOVE IT | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | first I'll ask chem|st to ban this fool doing a 5 pages quote to add 3 lines comment | 00:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | particularly THIS quote | 00:20 |
| freemangordon | don;t seems he is a newcomer | 00:21 |
| freemangordon | don;t, seems he is a newcomer | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | give it up already | 00:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and in 4 weeks we either can damage the repo so this particular pkg never ever gets downloaded again, or we have damaged repo from where nobody ever again downloads a pkg | 00:22 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:23 |
| kerio | cssu should ship a speedpatch with a stupid high version | 00:24 |
| kerio | that tries to clean up nicely after it and does nothing otherwise | 00:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | HAHAHAHA brilliant | 00:24 |
| merlin1991 | that is empty :P | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | kerio: don;t help | 00:24 |
| merlin1991 | like speedpatch 999:99999.999-9999 xD | 00:24 |
| freemangordon | the guy had screwed it that hard, that the only way to get rid if those "patches" is reflash. afaik | 00:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | indeed it's useless since crappatches mess up system files and don't uninstall cleanly | 00:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | sqlite evacuate eventsdb doesn't reverse easily (<- made that up from some cloudy memory) | 00:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it's just clearly a pkg that MUST NOT go to extras | 00:27 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since it's damaging the system, hard | 00:28 |
| kerio | wtf is evacuate? :o | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nfc | 00:28 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the carppatchguy had it in his crappatch, and other honoured senior community members asked him "are you mad, guy?" | 00:29 |
| freemangordon | :D | 00:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | cloudy memories, as already mantioned | 00:29 |
| kerio | so... i installed the testing-testing | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | kerio: good, check now in settings | 00:30 |
| kerio | i didn't change anything in the CA settings before, and there's no .dpkg-dist crap residue | 00:30 |
| freemangordon | you should have *.EGO.GOV.TR disabled | 00:31 |
| kerio | ...well, TÜRKTRUST is still there, but i think it's because the UI doesn't know about blacklists | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ | 00:31 |
| kerio | how do i check that microb won't do crap? | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | we don;t disable the root cert | 00:31 |
| kerio | oh | 00:31 |
| freemangordon | only intermediate | 00:31 |
| kerio | how do i test the intermediate? | 00:31 |
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| freemangordon | the second disabled should start with "e-islem" | 00:32 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: just check if you have those marked as invalid in settings->certificate manager | 00:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools | 00:33 |
| infobot | cp /etc/hosts /etc/hosts-maemobackup && echo "188.117.59.202 wiki.maemo.org" >> /etc/hosts; http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 00:33 |
| kerio | yep, ego.gov.tr is invalid | 00:34 |
| freemangordon | good | 00:35 |
| kerio | e-islem.kktcmerkezbankasi.org is also invalid | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | perfect | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | do you have valid certificates listed? | 00:35 |
| kerio | any time any of those appears in a chain, the whole certificate is considered invalid, right? | 00:35 |
| kerio | freemangordon: loads | 00:35 |
| kerio | it took quite a lot to scroll down | 00:35 |
| freemangordon | yep | 00:35 |
| kerio | DocScrutinizer05 will be delighted to know that i used apt to do the install instead of HAM | 00:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah sure, great. Makes you help useless | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and you making us believe you wanted to help and possibly merlin1991 already rolling the update to public repo based in fake testing now actually made it a bad thing | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I wonder if you ever will grok it what's the use of tests | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "dear community, we ship an urgent security update to you right this moment. It will show up in your HAM and usual update notifier. But PLEASE do NOT install it in HAM, since our CSSU member kerio thought it should get installed via apt" | 00:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | "So it's not tested in HAM" | 00:43 |
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| merlin1991 | srly DocScrutinizer05 relax | 00:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | nah, for today i'm somewhat fed up | 00:44 |
| kerio | i didn't want to make doc *this* upset :( | 00:47 |
| Skry | I can try it out with ham, whatever it is, just tell me what to do | 00:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: http://cdnm.at/~christian/maemo/cssu/testing-testing-enabler_0.1_all.deb | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: beware, ask merlin1991 | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it is not exactly easy to "uninstall" | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | aiui | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: afaik it just adds a catalog | 01:02 |
| freemangordon | you can disable it at will | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's what I thought as well | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but when I asked merlin1991 if next testing update will work as usual after using testing-testing, I got a somewhat discouraging (for my) answer | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | which I can't recall in detail right now | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thus, ask merlin1991 | 01:04 |
| merlin1991 | it will work except for corner cases | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | probably related to last update been way "huger" than this one | 01:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | BM is never a bad idea | 01:06 |
| freemangordon | ok, pretty enough for today, good night guys | 01:15 |
| * freemangordon waves | 01:15 | |
| kerio | the enabler should uninstall cleanly, anyway | 01:29 |
| Skry | everything ok | 01:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Skry: :-D thanks | 01:48 |
| Skry | np :) | 01:49 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: ^^^ | 01:49 |
| luf | Good. I have first working osso-gnomevfs-extras package :D Of course it's not ideal or fully done but it's working :D | 02:15 |
| luf | If someone want to test/debug (a lot of debug messages is enabled in the code) feel free to use it: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/osso-gnomevfs-extra/ | 02:22 |
| luf | This package gives you possibility to see paired bluetooth devices with obexFTP support and browse them the same way as local N900 :) I'm using it via file manager (ossofilemanager). | 02:24 |
| merlin1991 | luf: you're the man :D | 02:24 |
| Skry | +1 | 02:25 |
| luf | :D No I'm dead ... I'm going to sleep. I'll upload it (without debugs) to git hopefully tomorrow. | 02:26 |
| luf | merlin1991: I have to find the longer time for testing the bluez 4.99 againist Win7. | 02:27 |
| luf | Oh I forget to mention. This version is experimental so it should (and I expect) contain mem leaks and another bugs. | 02:30 |
| luf | I hope freemangordon will review the code once I upload it to the git. | 02:31 |
| luf | Oh I forgot that it also needs patched libhildonfm :) | 02:34 |
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| luf | I'm curious if someone will test it (excluding freemangordon) :D | 02:36 |
| luf | And finally good night ... | 02:37 |
| luf | (or maybe morning) :D | 02:37 |
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| Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, problem with generating changelogs in scratchbox is fixed | 12:07 |
| Pali | I pushed changes to master | 12:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: good :) | 12:07 |
| Pali | test if it really working in our scratchboxes :-) | 12:07 |
| freemangordon | ok | 12:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: now i compiles, but we have the changelog for both 7.1 and 7.2 included :D | 12:11 |
| freemangordon | *it | 12:11 |
| Pali | yes it include changelog since major version | 12:11 |
| Pali | (and major is 7) | 12:11 |
| Pali | I think that we using minor versions (7.x) only for compile and install problems | 12:12 |
| Pali | (like MAGs ke-recv or thumbized binaries :D) | 12:12 |
| freemangordon | Pali: aah, you mean that by design we should have 7, 7.1 and 7.2? | 12:13 |
| Pali | yes | 12:13 |
| freemangordon | ok, it is fine then | 12:13 |
| freemangordon | good | 12:13 |
| Pali | we really should write versioning scheme :D | 12:13 |
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| merlin1991 | well I'm running the version business a bit like this: if nothing new or major comes, or the changes are minor (ie a security fix only) I do a +0.1 if we have a lot of new stuff / a lot of small changes / something comletely new the version goes up to the next full number | 12:16 |
| Pali | merlin1991, now changelog generator append changelog since major version | 12:17 |
| Pali | should I change it? | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | no that's fine | 12:17 |
| merlin1991 | it makes perfect sense with my version policy | 12:18 |
| Pali | ok | 12:18 |
| Pali | version scheme is here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development#Version_Scheme | 12:18 |
| merlin1991 | the one for the mp is taken out of that | 12:20 |
| Pali | freemangordon, is zlib1g problem fixed? | 12:20 |
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| luf | Pali: it depends what problem do you mean. We compiled libxml2 againist stock zlib because the new zlib don't correctly generate symbols (I have to take a look if nobody knows or be faster). | 12:31 |
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| Pali | luf, problem with cyclic reboot | 12:32 |
| luf | merlin1991: my program for this week was changed so I can be available on Wednesday from 19:00 CET (18:00 UTC/GMT) | 12:32 |
| luf | Pali: That was due to libxml2 compiled againist new zlib (the quick workaround used was compile libxml2 againist stock zlib). | 12:33 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: do you have time on wednesday? | 12:33 |
| Pali | maybe | 12:33 |
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| * merlin1991 uploaded the new cssu update (cert fix) | 13:24 | |
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| *** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2012-12-25): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5" | 13:26 | |
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| jonwil | Great that we are able to keep the certificate DB up to date when necessary :) | 13:29 |
| jonwil | Although I suspect given how old browser-engine is, an attack with a compromized certificate is the least of our worries... | 13:30 |
| merlin1991 | yeah, I guess there are a few exploits in the engine | 13:30 |
| freemangordon | well, MTIM attack is not related to browser engine | 13:31 |
| jonwil | Is there a reason that someone hasn't investigated what it would take to update to a newer browser engine? | 13:32 |
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| merlin1991 | well I guess there's the time issue | 13:33 |
| freemangordon | luf: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311773&postcount=1184 | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | I guess it is the same for -testing | 13:34 |
| jonwil | ok, well the place to start is to find the upstream tree that matches the PR1.3 browser-engine and make a local patch of all the local Fremantle changes. Then from there we can see just how hard it would be to move to a newer engine. | 13:34 |
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| freemangordon | jonwil: according to romaxa it is not that hard | 13:34 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately we lack the expertise here to do it | 13:35 |
| jonwil | I guess biggest problem would be if newer browser-engine breaks plugin interfaces for e.g. maps or flash | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | no, flash plugin works with fennec17 | 13:35 |
| jonwil | well I have compiled the Mozilla tree before if that counts as "experience"... | 13:35 |
| jonwil | yeah Flash probably works because that uses NPAPI | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | no, it does not :D | 13:35 |
| freemangordon | the same for maps, as you can enable geoocation in fennec17 | 13:36 |
| jonwil | geolocation just means the GPS plugin | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | yes | 13:36 |
| jonwil | microb-geolocation | 13:36 |
| freemangordon | NFC about maps | 13:36 |
| jonwil | maps is different because it uses xpidl | 13:36 |
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| jonwil | actually, I think I have code in the Mozilla tree somewhere... | 13:45 |
| Pali | merlin1991, it is possible to blacklist CA cert on device? | 13:47 |
| Pali | without needed to update deb package? | 13:47 |
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| jonwil | yep I do have code in the Mozilla tree :) | 13:48 |
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| Pali | seems that tool "cmcli" could do that... there is -a param and need to specify "blacklist" domain | 13:53 |
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| luf | freemangordon: you destroy it :D | 14:04 |
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| luf | freemangordon: strange obexd has nothing to do with voice ... | 14:06 |
| luf | freemangordon: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311847&postcount=1187 | 14:06 |
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| luf | freemangordon: did you also recompile bluez? What version of bluez is in latest thumb? | 14:08 |
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| merlin1991 | Pali: yes you can | 14:43 |
| merlin1991 | you'd have to run "cmcli -c blacklist -a $certpath" and to remove one from the valid domain "cmcli -c common-ca -r $fullcertid" | 14:44 |
| freemangordon | luf: no, bluez is stock one | 14:52 |
| luf | freemangordon: what are new packages in thumb 7.1? | 14:56 |
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| merlin1991 | luf: 7.1 removed the libc dependency, 7 was h-d, ke-recv, systemuil (alarm and powerkey), sms/chat css, statusmenu profile applet and upstart | 15:09 |
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| luf | merlin1991: maybe freemangordon included more in thumb. For sure there is also updated obexd and rtcom-eventlogger-async. | 15:13 |
| merlin1991 | luf: that was in T6 | 15:14 |
| luf | :) Oh the time is so in hurry :D | 15:14 |
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| freemangordon | luf: I included obexd from -testing in 7.1 | 15:20 |
| luf | freemangordon: obexd has nothing to do with the audio (another post from same user). | 15:22 |
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| freemangordon | luf: hmm, lemme check | 15:26 |
| freemangordon | luf: don;t see how that could be related | 15:27 |
| freemangordon | luf: ke-recv, obexd, camera-ui, openssl, rtcom-eventlogger-async, libmatchbox2, hildon-desktop, gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend | 15:28 |
| freemangordon | this was updated in 7.1 | 15:28 |
| freemangordon | the only thing related is obexd | 15:29 |
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| freemangordon | luf: ^^^ | 15:29 |
| luf | I see. | 15:29 |
| freemangordon | luf: though it still makes no sense. I am using TB handsfree all day | 15:30 |
| freemangordon | *BT | 15:30 |
| freemangordon | let's hope he'll provide sme more info | 15:30 |
| freemangordon | *some | 15:30 |
| freemangordon | luf: please re-read http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311847&postcount=1187 | 15:32 |
| freemangordon | aiui, his car radio is unaware that there is voice call | 15:33 |
| luf | freemangordon: I'm working on osso-gnomevfs-extra git (if you see my notes in backscroll/history) | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | luf: yep, saw it | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | luf: please, commit your changes | 15:33 |
| luf | freemangordon: yes I posted it to you. That's strange. I don't see how obexd should coincident with this. | 15:34 |
| luf | freemangordon: I have to remove all the debug g_warnings ;) | 15:34 |
| freemangordon | luf: back to the problem - who is supposed to tell build-in radio to switch input from tuner to BT | 15:34 |
| freemangordon | I have no experience with such devices, both cars i have have no BT | 15:35 |
| luf | freemangordon: I think it has to get some audio from phone. | 15:35 |
| luf | Usually there is special box for BT which control the radio using some special contacts. | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | So, BT module does not get audio, despite n900 thinks it is connected to that module? | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | thats weird | 15:36 |
| luf | freemangordon: I don't know if he could check that the cat thinks it's connected. Or if he removed the pairing also from car side. | 15:36 |
| luf | There are too many BT hf ... | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | luf: BTW in thumb 7.1 I added all the packages from the last testing | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | (though not thumb-compiled) | 15:37 |
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| luf | freemangordon: last you mean T6? | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | so, thumb 7.1 is almost the same (if not the same) as T7.1 | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | no, I have skiped T6 | 15:38 |
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| freemangordon | thumb jumped from T5.1 to T7.1 | 15:38 |
| luf | freemangordon: yeah that I ment. | 15:38 |
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| freemangordon | iirc there were some PA policy changes | 15:39 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^? | 15:39 |
| luf | freemangordon: that should make sense | 15:39 |
| freemangordon | unfortunately I am not sure what package was that | 15:39 |
| luf | freemangordon: I think I tested it in non-thumb ... | 15:40 |
| freemangordon | that one https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/policy-settings-rx51/trees/master/rx51/policy | 15:41 |
| freemangordon | luf: thumb use the one from -testing | 15:41 |
| freemangordon | hoever, i'll request more info | 15:42 |
| luf | freemangordon: I replied also. However I see you included even more ... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311888&postcount=1190 | 15:44 |
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| freemangordon | That is after the issue was reported | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | iirc | 15:48 |
| freemangordon | luf: "after updating to 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.1+thumb0 my in-car handsfree no longer works. i think it is thumb2 obexd related. when i install older obexd files, everything works like it should. | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | cheers | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | " | 15:49 |
| freemangordon | clear enough | 15:49 |
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| luf | I can't believe how newer obexd can destroy even audio ... (maybe some bluetoothd crashes?) | 15:53 |
| freemangordon | luf: could be, but it is clearly stated that weh obexd is reverted, the ptoblem disappears | 15:54 |
| freemangordon | s/weh/when/ | 15:54 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: luf: could be, but it is clearly stated that when obexd is reverted, the ptoblem disappears | 15:54 |
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| luf | freemangordon: how did you fix the build of libxml2 againist new zlib? | 16:00 |
| freemangordon | luf: doing two-pass build | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | as I explained to you yesterday(iirc) | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | build (patched)libxml2 agains old zlib and install it | 16:02 |
| freemangordon | build and install new zlib | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | build libxml2 again | 16:03 |
| luf | freemangordon: I have to miss something (I see your explanation and see that you built libxml2 againist stock zlib) | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | luf: ^^^ | 16:03 |
| freemangordon | see above | 16:03 |
| luf | Ahhh I missed the last step. | 16:04 |
| freemangordon | ;) | 16:04 |
| freemangordon | before that last step I added dependency to newer zlib in debian/control | 16:04 |
| freemangordon | that way everything is fine (exluding what you reported for shlibs) | 16:04 |
| luf | freemangordon: ok. So I can remove it from my todo ... | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | luf: no, why? | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | that was for -thumb | 16:05 |
| freemangordon | those are still missing from -devel | 16:06 |
| freemangordon | (though -thumb will give much wider audience anyway) | 16:06 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon luf please put this into a readme into the git source tree | 16:11 |
| merlin1991 | anybody who wasn't in here is otherwise doomed to fail when attempting to build cssu from sources | 16:11 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ok | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | will do it... soon :) | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: have in mind this will be used only once | 16:12 |
| freemangordon | (per repo) | 16:12 |
| merlin1991 | well anybody who tries to upgrade his sb to cssu can run into this | 16:13 |
| freemangordon | no, he can;t | 16:14 |
| freemangordon | as correct debs will be in the repos | 16:14 |
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| merlin1991 | okay anybody who wants todo it from sources | 16:27 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: do you have rights to push updates in -stable? | 17:17 |
| freemangordon | aah, wait, chem|st is here | 17:17 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: aiui you should push new -stable update, to blacklist turktrust certificates | 17:18 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: yep I can, remember I did http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1_.2805.09.2012.29 | 17:26 |
| merlin1991 | btw freemangordon this: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cssu-stable controls who can upload to stable, and this is for testing: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cssu-testing/ | 17:31 |
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| Estel_ | I've noticed strange behavior of telephone application after latest CSSU update. My whitelist is empty, yet, even with landscape locked from statusmenu applet, phone app rotates | 17:36 |
| Estel_ | I'm pretty sure, that it wasn't rotating before update (or two) | 17:37 |
| Estel_ | can anyone confirm/deny? | 17:37 |
| Estel_ | to be precise - even with landscape lock ON, when i slide keyboard in, during conversation, phone app rotates | 17:37 |
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| merlin1991 | what's it set to in its own settings? | 17:40 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: what should h-d do to the phone app atm when landscape lock is engaged? | 17:43 |
| Estel_ | define own settings for phone app? | 17:45 |
| Estel_ | (re portrait/landscape) | 17:46 |
| merlin1991 | I made mistake, remembered something wrong :D | 17:46 |
| Estel_ | I see. | 17:49 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: already aware | 17:51 |
| chem|st | freemangordon: today or tomorrow | 17:51 |
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| arcean | merlin1991: nothing, all depends on the Phone app orientation settings | 18:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: moo | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: Testing tolled out? | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | rolled even | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | see topic and tmo | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | topic says Latest version: Testing(2012-12-25) | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | shit you did add dates | 18:08 |
| merlin1991 | I only updated the version | 18:08 |
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| *** merlin1991 changes topic to "Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5" | 18:09 | |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | merlin1991: chem|st: I think quarantine time for this patch to S should be rather short, no? | 18:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | like maybe 2..3 days | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | my 2 cents | 18:11 |
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| Estel_ | arcean, what do you mean by "all depends on phone app orientation settings"? You mean blacklist/whitelist, or something else? | 18:30 |
| Estel_ | I don't see any orientation setting in settings-> Phone . Also, phone app isn't whitelisted, so, intuitively, it should keep in landscape, when landscape lock is ON? Also, I'm sure, that before latest updates, it worked that way. | 18:31 |
| Estel_ | Anyone able to confirm/deny? | 18:31 |
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| Estel_ | I mean, specifically, phone ui during active conversation | 18:31 |
| arcean | Estel_: There's "Obsluga nastawiania" button in the phone app menu | 18:33 |
| merlin1991 | btw arcean are you available on wednesday? | 18:36 |
| arcean | merlin1991: in the evening, yes :) | 18:37 |
| merlin1991 | well it's settled then | 18:37 |
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| luf | Maybe I should say goodbye as freemangordon will kill me for sure :D | 18:41 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | luf: shall i hand you a cloak? | 18:42 |
| luf | freemangordon: I'm nearly ready to push osso-gnomevfs-extra changes into git. However I see no way to split it into several commits :( | 18:42 |
| luf | DocScrutinizer05: I still hope that I'll be fast and clever enough to run away :D | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 18:44 |
| merlin1991 | luf: is it the code you can't split or what? | 18:45 |
| merlin1991 | because if it 's only a problem with git itself, there I can help | 18:45 |
| merlin1991 | if on the other hand the whole patchset depends on the other parts, then well :P | 18:45 |
| Estel_ | arcean, thanks, took me a while to find it | 18:46 |
| Estel_ | BTW "Obsluga nastawiana" is epic translation, I should probably blame Nokians for it? | 18:46 |
| Estel_ | so, it's perfectly normal, that phone application totally ignored landscape lock from status menu applet, now? :/ Pity, it was much easier to lock it that way during conversation, than to go into application settings | 18:47 |
| luf | merlin1991: the code. Nearly everything depends on everything (in changes I did) | 18:47 |
| Estel_ | one would think that "lock device in landscape mode" (via status menu) is uber-rule, i.e. overwrite everything. Fuinny enough, I'm really sure it worked that way for phone application, too! Maybe it was a useful feature-bug ;) | 18:48 |
| merlin1991 | Estel_: it *worked* | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | but then you couldn't deny calls | 18:49 |
| Estel_ | ough, related to hidden button issue? | 18:49 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 18:49 |
| Estel_ | well, I see it as little runctionality loss, but understandable one. Inability to deny calls was even more irritating ;) | 18:50 |
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| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: ok then tomorrow | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | chem|st: great | 19:06 |
| chem|st | DocScrutinizer05: was said before... but the idea of keeping it live for another day before rolling into S is good | 19:07 |
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| freemangordon | luf: kill you? why is that, I told you to split the commits "if possible" :) | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | if it is not, well, not much that can be done | 19:31 |
| freemangordon | Pali: are you sure? | 19:40 |
| Pali | here is right channel :D | 19:40 |
| freemangordon | yep | 19:40 |
| Pali | #maemo: [18:38:59] <Pali> DocScrutinizer05, merlin1991: I have small hildon dialog application which ask user if he want to change Nokia supl server to Google supl | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | Pali: do you have startup script for that? | 19:41 |
| Pali | merlin1991, can you create git repo location-supl-fix on gitorious? | 19:41 |
| Pali | freemangordon, yes | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | I guess it should depend on "started hildon-desktop" | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | great | 19:41 |
| Pali | it is started every time | 19:41 |
| freemangordon | on reboot i guess? | 19:42 |
| Pali | so if you click yes always it will never show dialog again | 19:42 |
| Pali | start on started hildon-destop | 19:42 |
| freemangordon | do you check what is set currently? | 19:42 |
| freemangordon | before showing the dialog | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: great for a "fix stuff" pkg to ship with CSSU | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | run once on installation, and later on explicit invocation by user | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: BTW I think VM settings I use for the last 2 years are good to be included there too | 19:43 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, no, why explicit invocation | 19:44 |
| freemangordon | you can always use menu applet to change supl | 19:44 |
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| Pali | DocScrutinizer05, for unknown reason on my n900 supl server is without anything reseted to supl.nokia.com | 19:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | plus we need ... ahh you already got that. Seen on #maemo | 19:44 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 4 buttons | 19:44 |
| Pali | I changed it more times to google and after some time somebody change it back to nokia... | 19:45 |
| Pali | so we need it to start every time | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | Pali: we need to find who is changit that and start it after that | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | *changing | 19:45 |
| Pali | and because after updating/installing CSSU is needed reboot, I did not created postinst script (not needed) | 19:45 |
| freemangordon | :nod: | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I'd first want to see evidence who's changing it back | 19:46 |
| Pali | freemangordon, seems that closed nokia location-proxy | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | is that a daemon? | 19:46 |
| Pali | I already grepped that gconf key | 19:46 |
| Pali | and it is only in control panel aplet | 19:46 |
| Pali | and in that daemon | 19:46 |
| freemangordon | ak, so your startup script should wait for that daemon to start | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | *ok | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | and for hildon-desktop to start | 19:47 |
| Pali | gconf key is /system/nokia/location/supl/server | 19:47 |
| Raimu | An applause for handling the certificate snafu for n900, guys. | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | :) | 19:48 |
| Pali | and is only in these files: etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xm etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/system/nokia/location/supl/%gconf.xml etc/gconf/schemas/location.schemas usr/bin/location-proxy usr/lib/hildon-control-panel/liblocation_applet.so | 19:48 |
| Pali | so I think for unknown reason it is changed by location-proxy... | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | Pali: can;t we include that piece of code in some of the existing daemons ar write a hidden widget, so if it is changed(not on startup but later) to show the dialog? | 19:49 |
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| Pali | freemangordon, I do not know when it is changed, but writing daemon which will run on all devices every time is not good idea... | 19:51 |
| Pali | but we should investigate when it happen.... | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | Pali: that is why my widget idea | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | or hildon-home plugin | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | sorry, hildon-status-menu | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | we'll be able to listen for that gconf key changes and can check for the correct value on hildon-status-menu startup | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | the other option is to RE location-proxy | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | it is not that big, some 19k ARM code | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | oops, wait, where is the daemon binary? | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ | 19:54 |
| Pali | /usr/bin/location-proxy | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | hmm, that one is gigger | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | *bigger | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | 30k | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | too much | 19:55 |
| freemangordon | not impossible, but still | 19:57 |
| * freemangordon wait for the time when ARM HexRays will leak :D | 19:57 | |
| kerio | Raimu: note that the actual TURKTRUST CA wasn't removed or blacklisted, only the two mistakenly-released intermediate CAs | 19:58 |
| kerio | which is still not good enough, in my opinion, but it's what mozilla has done | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | will do :) | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | this is what M$ has done | 19:59 |
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| luf | Ugh when I strip off the g_warning logging it core dumps time to time :( | 19:59 |
| freemangordon | luf: you have sp-rich-core installed, ain;t? | 20:00 |
| luf | But I'll push it to the git and after that I'll catch the bug. However the binary I uploaded is ok (with debugs). | 20:00 |
| luf | freemangordon: Yes. Thanks again to you. | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | luf: do you know how to use it? coredump that is? | 20:01 |
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| luf | However I see a log of core dumps like Calendar, browserd, cl-launcher, rtcom-messaging ... :) | 20:01 |
| luf | I'll have to make a break and let my wife to use the computer ... | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | do you see your process? | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | aah, ok | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | :) | 20:02 |
| kerio | freemangordon: IMO a certificate authority that fucks up this badly shouldn't be an authority at all | 20:02 |
| luf | Sure I see my proces. I'll investigate it later. | 20:02 |
| luf | Now put the sources to the git. | 20:02 |
| freemangordon | kerio: as I already told you we are not the ones to decide on this. if tomorrow mozilla blacklist root certs, we'll follow | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | luf: great | 20:03 |
| freemangordon | kerio: (maybe we'll follow) | 20:03 |
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| luf | freemangordon: osso-gnomevfs-extra pushed to the git | 20:08 |
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| freemangordon | good | 20:08 |
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| Lava_Croft | Thank you for the quick update, SSU team(s)! | 20:22 |
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| luf | I need some hint :) | 21:45 |
| luf | Where can I find sfil_li_documents translation (in what package)? | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | sfil_li_documents? why not sfil_li_bluetooth? | 21:46 |
| luf | I need to add there sfil_li_bluetooth ... | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | hmm | 21:46 |
| freemangordon | luf: did you ask google? :P | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | http://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/bzr/pkg-maemo/hildon-fm-l10n/ubuntu/po/hildon-fm.pot | 21:47 |
| luf | I find https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/n900-cssu-translation/ but it doesn't look like something what is up to date ... or related to cssu. | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | luf: seems we have to orward-port thoe from diablo | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | afaik we don;t have hildonfm translation in cssu | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | and I guess it is closed source | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | fortunately it is very easy to RE it | 21:49 |
| luf | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=slovak-l10n;a=summary | 21:50 |
| luf | This seems to be ok (slovak by Pali Rohar - does anybody know him? :D :D) | 21:51 |
| freemangordon | sfil_li_folder_documents? | 21:51 |
| freemangordon | seems ids have changed | 21:52 |
| freemangordon | luf: seems ^^^ is correct for fremantle, you just need to find the id for bluetooth and the others | 21:54 |
| luf | freemangordon: where is the standard english definition? | 21:56 |
| luf | I see. | 21:56 |
| luf | I overlooked it last time. | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | luf: maybe opening bluetooth applet desctop file will give you the id for bluetooth | 21:57 |
| luf | freemangordon: is it needed to add it to all localizations? Anyone has any experience with it (pali)? | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | luf: add what?!? | 21:58 |
| luf | I know the id. | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | we already have all this | 21:58 |
| luf | sfil_li_bluetooth - this is the id. | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | no, it is not | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | at least not in fremantle | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | aiui | 21:58 |
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| luf | freemangordon: sfil for bleutooth was never used (commented out) so it's not in po files. | 22:07 |
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| luf | I don't understand why the translations are closed :( | 22:56 |
| freemangordon | luf: marketing bullshit | 23:07 |
| luf | freemangordon: I checked translationfor hildon-fm and there is no Bluetooth :( | 23:11 |
| luf | So what should be the right way to add it? | 23:11 |
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| luf | freemangordon: I'm going to push libhildonfm changes to git ... | 23:29 |
| luf | merlin1991: ping | 23:51 |
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