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| freemangordon | ~seen arcean | 13:14 |
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| infobot | arcean <~arcean@aaes41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 2d 10h 2m 35s ago, saying: 'yeah, it good time for bed :)'. | 13:14 |
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| LaoLang_cool | why isn't there a changelog for Tmaemo66? | 13:48 |
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| kerio | merlin1991: new testing release pls | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | LaoLang_cool: because you're looking at a read-only location | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | check out tmo | 13:55 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer51: where can I read the latest changelog? | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | tmo | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and probably on merlin's server too | 13:55 |
| LaoLang_cool | I find that it hasn't updated for a long time after Tmaemo6 was released | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sorry, you lost me on that one | 13:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | t6 is less than a month old iirc | 13:57 |
| LaoLang_cool | Yes :) | 13:57 |
| LaoLang_cool | Is the post this one? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905 | 13:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | and iirc merlin1991 published the changelog of t6 before rollout | 13:58 |
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| kerio | DocScrutinizer51: well, a month is a long time | 14:01 |
| kerio | especially considering the minor problems in hildon-desktop that are fixed in the current -devel | 14:01 |
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| freemangordon | well, merlin1991 said he'll push a new update this weekend | 14:30 |
| kerio | but... it's sunday! | 14:38 |
| freemangordon | I know | 14:39 |
| LaoLang_cool | lol | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | but... it's still weekend :) | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you could argue this is a loooong weekend til next newyear | 14:44 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I'm way more concerned about Stable | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | feels like we haven't seen new S release since half a year | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | a tad too much of a quarantine period | 14:47 |
| LaoLang_cool | Yes! | 14:47 |
| LaoLang_cool | I'm using stable | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | WOOOHOOO some real existring S user | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | dang!!!! Smaemo4.1 | 14:49 |
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| LaoLang_cool | ! | 14:58 |
| LaoLang_cool | :) | 14:58 |
| LaoLang_cool | Though I always can't notice any difference bwtween versions of stable | 14:59 |
| kerio | that's the point | 15:00 |
| kerio | cssu stable should be indistinguishable from stock | 15:00 |
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| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yeah. And I wonder how we'll get out of that situation now chem|st is appointed as TMO admin | 15:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: that's why we originally got 3 maintainers for 2 repos | 17:16 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: guess what I'm doing atm | 17:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ohaimerlin | 17:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: chem|st does not full admin job on tmo either. He's just doing what he did so far, just with a tad more power. Plus keeping an eye on syslogs | 17:17 |
| kerio | merlin1991: browsing reddit? | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | basically he's not sysop but supermod | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | system admin has to be somebody else | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that's been my main argument why tmo MUST consolidate on the common maemo.org infra | 17:18 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | we need one professional admin anyway | 17:19 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: nope.jpg, building T7 | 17:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | that admin will not have much more trouble when there's a tmo VM on same iron | 17:19 |
| kerio | :D | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | jusz keep track off 16 instead of 15 syslogs | 17:20 |
| merlin1991 | and starting to really really hate this friggin KDE here | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | just keep track of 16 instead of 15 syslogs | 17:20 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | do system updates on one system more, so what. we already got another ~8 similar ones | 17:21 |
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| merlin1991 | arcean: ping | 17:22 |
| arcean | merlin1991: pong | 17:23 |
| merlin1991 | I just read the merge request again, what did you improve on the blacklist whitelist system again? | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | lemme toss around some ballpark numbers, based on handwaving: admin of one dedicated server=100%. | 17:23 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers: 130% | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 3 identical dedi servers: 140% | 17:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers plus one VM: 160% | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers plus 8 VM: 200% | 17:25 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if those figures hold true by any amount, you see there's no use in cutting down in services too much. But it makes a friggin lot of sense to consolidate and keep stuff uniform | 17:26 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since admin of 2 dedi servers in two locations: 210% | 17:27 |
| merlin1991 | gitorious seems to be in holiday mode | 17:27 |
| merlin1991 | nothing works for me :/ | 17:27 |
| arcean | merlin1991: a couple of performance changes + possibility to whitelist dialog windows | 17:28 |
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| arcean | merlin1991: updated merge request fixes https://bugs.maemo.org/12586 | 17:29 |
| povbot | Bug 12586: Status area dialogs force landscape mode when an application is active | 17:29 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: did you fix something in libmatchbox? | 17:29 |
| arcean | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libmatchbox2/commit/5ff6d73a67f4de96f1c9038690528b9134383ea2 | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: updated when? | 17:30 |
| arcean | 14th december | 17:30 |
| merlin1991 | okay, me goes to build libmatchbox first :) | 17:30 |
| arcean | ok | 17:30 |
| arcean | you have to build and install updated libmatchbox before building hildon-desktop | 17:31 |
| arcean | :P | 17:31 |
| merlin1991 | yep building blew up into my face in the dependency stage :D | 17:32 |
| arcean | hehe | 17:32 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | gnhnhnhn | 17:32 |
| freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arcean-hildon-desktop/commit/b6bcbec89d20af5777a9c166489445407d7fd2d7 | 17:32 |
| freemangordon | why is that? | 17:32 |
| arcean | yeah | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | arcean: esp line 4600 | 17:33 |
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| arcean | freemangordon: let's assume you have an app with settings page, where you can change app's screen orientation | 17:33 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:34 |
| arcean | when you change screen orientation (in app settings) from auto or portrait to landscape and go to the task nav | 17:34 |
| arcean | the thumb is not updated | 17:34 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: you didn't bump the version number :/ | 17:34 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: from my above comments you see you should ask: where T F is MohammadAG? | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since he's still main responsible maintainer of T | 17:36 |
| arcean | merlin1991: :/ in matchbox package? | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 17:36 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no. for too long time, it does not worth my breath anymore :( | 17:36 |
| arcean | I've raised it to 0.2.92-1 | 17:36 |
| merlin1991 | 0.2.92-1+0m5 is the stock version, and your source goes 0.2.92-1 | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ack | 17:36 |
| arcean | damn | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so we need to address that issue | 17:37 |
| freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since we want to avoid burnuts | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | burn-outs | 17:37 |
| freemangordon | arcean: but why "|| STATE_IS_APP (hd_render_manager_get_state ()))"? | 17:37 |
| arcean | freemangordon: I've encountered this issue with OMP and updated Qt | 17:37 |
| freemangordon | that one will prevent thumb being redrawn | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | arcean: iirc | 17:38 |
| arcean | freemangordon: the function is called when the window's flag has been changed | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | arcean: I know, I wrote that function :D | 17:38 |
| freemangordon | and its purpose is - if an application decides to rotate while we are in tasknav, we should reflect that change | 17:39 |
| arcean | so when the user changes the app's screen orientation, the window's portrait flag is also updated | 17:39 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: I'm fixing the verison numbers | 17:40 |
| arcean | and without "STATE_IS_APP" the thumb won't be updated | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | arcean: what? why? | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | why portrait flag is updated? | 17:40 |
| freemangordon | I mean, it is up to the application to update it, not h-d's job AIUI | 17:40 |
| arcean | freemangordon: when you go from auto to landscape, the SUPPORT flag is taken away | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | arcean: aah, I see | 17:41 |
| arcean | (I'm not talking about h-d screen orientation, but about app specific settings) | 17:41 |
| freemangordon | so, the original code was ok only when goping landscape->portrait? | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | *going | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | but not when portrait->landscape? | 17:42 |
| arcean | landscape - portrait, landscape - auto, yes | 17:42 |
| freemangordon | ok, got it :) | 17:43 |
| arcean | I'm still testing all that stuff | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | arcean: one more thing: why did you exchange rotate/move? | 17:43 |
| freemangordon | oh, scratch that | 17:44 |
| arcean | hmm, where? | 17:44 |
| merlin1991 | arcean: I'll raise libmatchbox version to 0.2.92-2+0cssu0 | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | you put a space and seems I am blind enough to read it incorrectly :D | 17:44 |
| arcean | merlin1991: drop 0cssu0 :P | 17:44 |
| arcean | we're the upstream :D | 17:44 |
| freemangordon | yeah :D | 17:44 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah hd | 17:45 |
| merlin1991 | true | 17:45 |
| arcean | all in all, the new Qt fixes: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12629 | 17:45 |
| povbot | Bug 12629: blacklisting works not as it should | 17:45 |
| freemangordon | you're not going to put that changes in current -testing, ain't? | 17:46 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ | 17:46 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: nah qt changes should go -devel first | 17:47 |
| arcean | there's still a couple of things, which should be updated | 17:47 |
| merlin1991 | I'm only including what we talked about last week | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | ok | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | don;t forget powerkeymenu | 17:47 |
| merlin1991 | I have a list from that meeting ;) | 17:47 |
| freemangordon | :D | 17:48 |
| merlin1991 | with additional notes! | 17:48 |
| freemangordon | BTW i hope i'll be ready with tklock by the end of the week | 17:48 |
| freemangordon | (next one) | 17:48 |
| arcean | freemangordon: it works fine here :) | 17:49 |
| freemangordon | arcean: it works, but have a missing functionality compared to stock | 17:49 |
| freemangordon | i.e. while the screen is dimmed, one should not be able to interact with device by using kbd or screen | 17:50 |
| freemangordon | arcean: you know, there is 2-3 seconds timeout before screen is (auto) turned off | 17:51 |
| arcean | hmm | 17:52 |
| freemangordon | during this timeout the screen is dimmed, and with stock tklock you can only restore the full brightness by clocking on the screen | 17:52 |
| freemangordon | s/clocking/touching/ | 17:53 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: during this timeout the screen is dimmed, and with stock tklock you can only restore the full brightness by touching on the screen | 17:53 |
| arcean | makes sense :) | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | replacement is missing that | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | well, it is in "stock" branch, but not in the "master" | 17:53 |
| freemangordon | took me a couple of weeks to grok WTF is "event eater" :D:D:D | 17:55 |
| arcean | event eater? :D wonderful name :D | 17:56 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:56 |
| freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-tklock/blobs/master/include/systemui/tklock-dbus-names.h#line39 | 17:56 |
| arcean | hehe | 17:57 |
| arcean | there's even LPM mode :D | 17:57 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 17:57 |
| freemangordon | though "no memleak" mode is what I like more than anything else :D | 17:58 |
| kerio | freemangordon: where's my doubletap-to-unlock | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | kerio: you lost it? | 17:59 |
| kerio | well, i don't have it | 17:59 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: little hint, it never was there on maemo so far ;) | 17:59 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I know, i am kidding kerio | 18:00 |
| merlin1991 | damn so much for me trolling you | 18:00 |
| freemangordon | :D | 18:00 |
| merlin1991 | also chaning ones email is quite some work, I didn't until now, that I also had it stored as a git setting and in my .bashrc of my scratchbox :D | 18:01 |
| merlin1991 | *I didn't realize untill now,* | 18:01 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: you;ve changed your email? | 18:01 |
| merlin1991 | yep, I'm now avaiable under christian.ratzenhofer@cdnm.at --> my server :) | 18:01 |
| merlin1991 | though I still pull mail from the old address in | 18:02 |
| merlin1991 | btw my last meeting mail came from the new address afaik | 18:02 |
| freemangordon | aah, yes | 18:02 |
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| merlin1991 | now building system-ui de | 18:06 |
| merlin1991 | v | 18:06 |
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| freemangordon | nice :) | 18:06 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: whatabout the cssu tag on osso-systemui-alarm? | 18:12 |
| freemangordon | you mean it is missing? | 18:12 |
| merlin1991 | the version number is only 0.3.3 | 18:12 |
| freemangordon | well, add it | 18:12 |
| merlin1991 | I have to say I like the systemui packages, they are mean and lean, and don't take over 30 mins to build :D | 18:14 |
| freemangordon | :D | 18:15 |
| merlin1991 | and no autotools! | 18:15 |
| * merlin1991 hates how autotools foobar the source dir | 18:15 | |
| freemangordon | thanks to Pali | 18:15 |
| Pali | I hate autohell too :D | 18:16 |
| merlin1991 | I can live with cmake, (if the buildscript does a proper out of tree build) but autotools I just hate :D | 18:17 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: I just realized that with the rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait packge we override user changed css files, maybe we should ad an md5 check? | 18:27 |
| Pali | merlin1991, we using dpkg-divert | 18:27 |
| Pali | so user file will be diverted | 18:27 |
| merlin1991 | Pali: yeah but that diverts away already made changes | 18:27 |
| kerio | merlin1991: yes, they're diverted | 18:28 |
| kerio | aka backupped | 18:28 |
| merlin1991 | hm I'll add a notice in the log then about where to find the backup | 18:28 |
| Pali | dpkg-divert should be called (to fix problems with postrm script) | 18:28 |
| Pali | merlin1991, so check md5sum after dpkg-divert and then call "mv" or "cp" for restoring | 18:29 |
| merlin1991 | so who in here is using ProfilesX ? | 18:35 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'll need the glibc | 18:56 |
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| kerio | Pali: you still haven't removed "meeting" and "outside" from the harmattan profiled | 18:59 |
| Pali | I removed it | 18:59 |
| Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/profiled/commit/c6f0e5e550252e71ca670f0e9c445ce0e17b79c3 | 19:00 |
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| kerio | Pali: do you reckon it's good enough to add to cssu? | 19:01 |
| merlin1991 | hm thought I didn't do the topic yet | 19:01 |
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| kerio | freemangordon: btw, the -thumb repo is still missing the new version of bb-power and openmediaplayer | 19:45 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: is there openmediaplay in there already? | 19:47 |
| kerio | merlin1991: the OMP dude made a thumby build | 19:47 |
| merlin1991 | with all the right stuff? | 19:48 |
| kerio | huh? | 19:48 |
| merlin1991 | proper gcc, ... | 19:48 |
| kerio | compiled with fmg's toolchain, yes | 19:48 |
| merlin1991 | hm quoting fmg "@gidzzz - I am all for having extras-thumb, but you should ask merlin1991 for that, -thumb is hosted on his server " | 20:24 |
| merlin1991 | (from tmo) | 20:24 |
| kerio | i'm, too, all for having extras-thumb on your server | 20:24 |
| kerio | merlin1991: btw, have you publicized your extras-devel-light repo mirror? | 20:26 |
| merlin1991 | well it is public as in it runs on the public end | 20:26 |
| merlin1991 | feel free to inform others about it, but I don't feel like posting on tmo and then handling the fallout of people that don't understand the point of it and add it as yet another repo to their list | 20:27 |
| merlin1991 | but it even includes a .install file so it should be *easy* to use :) | 20:28 |
| kerio | does HAM use pdiffs, i wonder? | 20:28 |
| merlin1991 | nfc | 20:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | >>...add it as yet another repo<< hehe | 20:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | "hey! I added fast-repo, faster-repo, and fastest-repo. I even added acme-supadupafast-repo, and still it's slow like hell! what a shit!" | 20:56 |
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