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| FIQ | hmm | 00:39 |
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| FIQ | there seems to be no changelog for T6 on the wiki | 00:40 |
| FIQ | is there one somewhere else? | 00:40 |
| FIQ | probably as package info for mp-fremantle-community-pr.. no idea how to check it though | 00:40 |
| kerio | FIQ: the changelog is on TMO, the wiki is still busted | 00:41 |
| FIQ | hmm i'll see | 00:41 |
| kerio | FIQ: you'd have to check the changes between T5 and T6 in the metapackage :) | 00:41 |
| merlin1991 | FIQ: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1297455#post1297455 | 00:42 |
| FIQ | ty merlin1991 | 00:42 |
| FIQ | what's up with the wiki? | 00:44 |
| merlin1991 | the sw got updated and now the login is b0rked | 00:46 |
| FIQ | heh | 00:47 |
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| freemangordon__ | merlin1991: cannot upload to cssu-devel incoming dir for some reason | 13:52 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: should work again | 16:51 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: thanks, going to try it | 18:40 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ping | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | ok, systemui power key menu is in cssu-devel, feel free to test it | 18:50 |
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| merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong | 18:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: we might have a problem with powerkeymenu and those users who had enabled "reboot", "xterm" and whatnot commands in powerkeymenu | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | otherwise I think the package is ready for primetime | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I don;t know how apt will handle /etc/systemui/systemui.xml | 18:56 |
| freemangordon | if modified that is | 18:56 |
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| kerio | merlin1991: could you add pdiff support to your extras-devel-light repo? :3 | 20:12 |
| kerio | freemangordon: apt will ask the user, HAM will probably just install the new config file | 20:14 |
| kerio | freemangordon: also yay ^_^ | 20:14 |
| freemangordon | kerio: yeah, my bad, i'd rather meant HAM | 20:14 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: I've looked into it, but it isn't as easy as it sounds | 20:16 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW now we have the source code of power key menu, we can finally move "orientation lock" to where it belongs ;) | 20:22 |
| kerio | :D :D :D :D :D | 20:22 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i'm rebooting, btw | 20:22 |
| gregoa | merlin1991: re pdiffs: /usr/share/doc/reprepro/manual.html --> tiffany. works fine for me. | 20:22 |
| kerio | i really hope it's not borked, my last backup is kinda old right now | 20:22 |
| kerio | like two days old | 20:22 |
| * freemangordon needs coffee | 20:23 | |
| merlin1991 | gregoa: I'm on it, relax :D | 20:23 |
| kerio | gregoa: how do i "reset" my dpkg cache? | 20:24 |
| gregoa | merlin1991: I couldn't be more relaxed :) | 20:24 |
| merlin1991 | why oh why is the manual in html | 20:24 |
| gregoa | kerio: what does this mean? | 20:24 |
| merlin1991 | or rather what's a proper commandline html viewer? | 20:24 |
| kerio | gregoa: make it so apt will redownload the Packages files from the repos | 20:24 |
| gregoa | lynx, links, w3m, ... $EDITOR | 20:24 |
| kerio | freemangordon: the text for buttons with graphical icons is kinda borked | 20:25 |
| kerio | freemangordon: it's... up a bit | 20:25 |
| gregoa | kerio: sounds more like apt-cache than dpkg cache :) | 20:25 |
| kerio | freemangordon: still no double-tap-to-unlock? :( | 20:25 |
| kerio | gregoa: ...maybe | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | kerio: what is borked? | 20:25 |
| kerio | freemangordon: the text on buttons with icons isn't centered vertically | 20:25 |
| kerio | hold on, i'll post a screen | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no need | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | I got it | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | will fix it in an instant | 20:26 |
| kerio | i thought this was ready for primetime! you lied to me! :'( | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | hehe | 20:26 |
| gregoa | kerio: but I have no good idea, short of removing stuff from /var/lib/apt/lists/ manually | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | kerio: BTW are you sure it was centered on stock? | 20:27 |
| kerio | freemangordon: pretty sure, yes | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:27 |
| kerio | don't you remember? | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | no | 20:28 |
| kerio | freemangordon: anyway, even if it was decentered on stock, it would be a bug | 20:29 |
| kerio | because it's ugly! | 20:29 |
| luf | merlin1991: links ;) | 20:31 |
| gregoa | kerio: commenting out the repo in sources.list / update / commenting it in again / update seems to fetch the stuff again | 20:32 |
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| merlin1991 | luf: where's that screenshot now ;) | 20:32 |
| gregoa | merlin1991: do you mean http://screenshots.debian.net/package/links ? :) | 20:33 |
| merlin1991 | nah I mean the powerkey screenshot ;) | 20:33 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hmm, how would you implement the rotation lock in the powerkey menu? | 20:33 |
| kerio | like, would you put the status text there or not? | 20:34 |
| gregoa | kerio: or maybe I'm wrong and a I got a new Packages file because there were updates in the repo I tested :/ | 20:34 |
| luf | merlin1991: what screeenshot? | 20:35 |
| luf | Oh I understand. What about aalib (or how it's called). | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | <kerio> freemangordon: the text on buttons with icons isn't centered vertically | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | <kerio> hold on, i'll post a screen | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | ^ That screen :D | 20:36 |
| kerio | why did you ask luf for it? | 20:36 |
| merlin1991 | because my autocomplete failed :oops: | 20:37 |
| luf | It's ok while it's not kernel oops :D | 20:37 |
| kerio | http://i.imgur.com/8V2Rj.png | 20:37 |
| merlin1991 | ah yep, text on stock is vertically centered | 20:38 |
| merlin1991 | and that indeed looks UGLY | 20:38 |
| kerio | the autorotation applet has some blue status text though | 20:38 |
| kerio | the rest of the buttons don't | 20:39 |
| kerio | in the powerkey menu | 20:39 |
| luf | kerio: what the language are you using? | 20:39 |
| freemangordon | kerio: fixed | 20:40 |
| kerio | luf: it_IT | 20:40 |
| kerio | luf: i should probably use english actually | 20:42 |
| luf | kerio: no problem. It just look very strange to me :D | 20:42 |
| kerio | it's just that the decimal and date separators you guys use are weird | 20:43 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no problem to put rotation lock in the power key menu | 20:43 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: because it's you I also added bz2 to the extras devel light repo :D | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | the ^^^ "not centered vertically" bug was exactly because the second line of text was empty :D | 20:44 |
| kerio | freemangordon: it would have to be different though, you need one button, with centered icon+vertically-centered text | 20:44 |
| kerio | to be consistent with the rest of the powerkey menu buttons | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | kerio: no, invoke power key menu while in call and you'll see | 20:45 |
| kerio | don't make me call :c | 20:45 |
| kerio | what does it do? | 20:45 |
| freemangordon | you'll have "secure device" button disabled, along with second lie description why it is disabled. something like "you cannot secure the device while in call" | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | *line | 20:46 |
| kerio | i see | 20:47 |
| kerio | it's still inconsistent! | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | not to say that it could be something like 2g/3g/dual mode selection applet, i.e. a couple of buttons in a row. | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | and still be consistent | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | kerio: don;t forget tklock is updated too :P | 20:49 |
| kerio | freemangordon: i have your updated tklock | 20:50 |
| kerio | it doesn't seem different | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | thats good | 20:50 |
| kerio | i wanted portrait mode! | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | we are missing the background for portrait mode | 20:50 |
| kerio | and pwrkey-twice-to-unlock | 20:50 |
| freemangordon | well, first things firts | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | *first | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | read - memory leaks | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | kerio: and I won;t be the one to implement portrait mode in tklock, find some GTK guy | 20:51 |
| freemangordon | or pester merlin1991 to find one :P | 20:52 |
| kerio | k | 20:52 |
| kerio | i don't really care actually | 20:52 |
| kerio | double-click-to-unlock would be SWEET | 20:52 |
| freemangordon | kerio: we are missing the background for portrait tklock | 20:52 |
| kerio | freemangordon: the one that's already there! :D | 20:53 |
| freemangordon | won;t work | 20:53 |
| kerio | actually no, the clock would end up on the white-ish part | 20:53 |
| kerio | merlin1991: joke's on you, i actually told apt to prefer gzip | 20:59 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: do you plan to update h-d in -testing any time soon? | 21:00 |
| kerio | freemangordon: it's updated in -T6 | 21:03 |
| merlin1991 | kerio: he's talking about the even newer h-d from arcean | 21:08 |
| kerio | i see | 21:09 |
| kerio | freemangordon: how do i reload systemui without rebooting? | 21:09 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: I hoped I could push a tklock, alarm, powerkeymenu + h-d update | 21:09 |
| merlin1991 | but since we still have leaks I guess I'll push a minimalistic h-d only update | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: we have leaks? | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | where is that? | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | kerio: killall systemui | 21:11 |
| kerio | freemangordon: yay ^_^ | 21:11 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: there should be no more leaks caused by systemui | 21:12 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: though I think it is better to push only h-d for now, I want those tested for a while | 21:13 |
| freemangordon | (those - systemui plugins) | 21:13 |
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| freemangordon | merlin1991: I am still not convinced alarmui is 100% stable and bugfree, no matter I am using the replacement for near a month | 21:14 |
| freemangordon | *nearly | 21:14 |
| kerio | to be fair i trust freemangordon more than nokia | 21:15 |
| freemangordon | thats reasonable :P | 21:16 |
| freemangordon | chem|st: whats with the new -stable? | 21:17 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: didn't you say, that there were still leaks left in the tklock plugin? | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: no, you got me wrong | 21:37 |
| merlin1991 | ah okay :D | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | I said it is using too much memory for my taste :D | 21:38 |
| merlin1991 | I'll push a new update with h-d and libcpaboutcssu this week then | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: include powerkeymenu too | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | it is not REed, but a rewrite, so I am pretty confident it is ok | 21:39 |
| merlin1991 | is the text fixed? :D | 21:40 |
| merlin1991 | ah yeah there's a commit :) | 21:40 |
| freemangordon | yes. and i'll commit a minor fix in a couple of minutes | 21:40 |
| merlin1991 | any numbers on memory usage? | 21:41 |
| freemangordon | lemme check | 21:41 |
| freemangordon | heap size (without alarm being active) is 1576 kb | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | waiting for alarm to sound | 21:44 |
| freemangordon | no change | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | so, 1576 KB | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: but we need someone GTK to try to reduce that. Somehow. or to RE systemui itself and make it .launch | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | But for now I am fed ui with systemui stuff, so don;t hold your breath : | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | *up | 21:48 |
| merlin1991 | hehe | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | well, you may ask jonwil, there is x86 systemui binary | 21:48 |
| freemangordon | which is 26KB | 21:49 |
| freemangordon | a couple of days spent on it and we'll have the sources :D | 21:50 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: fix https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/blobs/485bd135dd7b8506c8bb73a0c3678cbf5f80910e/COPYING before pushing it in -testing | 21:53 |
| merlin1991 | since when am I a lawyer? :D | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: come on, please. this is GPL2 | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | oops | 21:54 |
| freemangordon | LGPL | 21:55 |
| freemangordon | though it could be GPL2 as well | 21:55 |
| merlin1991 | tbh I'd prefer it when you slap the copyright on, since I didn't write the code, looks kinda odd if everything but the copyright notice comes from someone else | 21:56 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, ok | 21:57 |
| freemangordon | I am just tired :( | 21:57 |
| merlin1991 | well, go to bed, do it tomorrow :D | 21:57 |
| freemangordon | no. i'll do it now, i want to finish with that stuff | 21:57 |
| kerio | freemangordon: so not only you had some questionable ideas regarding the aesthetics of text, you also didn't fulfill the proper legal requirements! | 21:58 |
| merlin1991 | kerio the troll :P | 21:58 |
| freemangordon | kerio: shut up :P | 21:58 |
| kerio | freemangordon: btw, have you tested the "lock device" part of tklock? | 22:00 |
| freemangordon | kerio: what? | 22:00 |
| kerio | oh ok, it's not part of tklock, it stays below it | 22:01 |
| freemangordon | kerio: elaborate please | 22:02 |
| kerio | freemangordon: the thing that asks for the lock code to unlock | 22:03 |
| freemangordon | this is not a part of tklock, And it is invoked via powerkeymenu. And yes, I tested it. That was the first time ever I locked my device :D:D:D | 22:04 |
| kerio | i tested it too! | 22:04 |
| kerio | :D | 22:04 |
| freemangordon | good for you. does it work? | 22:04 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: licensing fixed, it should be ready to go | 22:06 |
| kerio | yep | 22:06 |
| Pali | freemangordon, is there portrait mode support for tklock? | 22:06 |
| freemangordon | Pali: no, we are missing proper background images | 22:06 |
| Pali | so only background image is problem? | 22:07 |
| Pali | why we cannot use that which is in landscape mode? | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: because it is in landscape :D | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | Pali: we can do some trickery ofc | 22:07 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: no more re bits in it? | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | but my focus was on getting it working + fixind the memory leaks | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: where? | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | powerkey | 22:08 |
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| freemangordon | there is nothing REed, I wrote the code from scratch | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | because the old copying stated the "this might contain (c) nokia bits" | 22:08 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I took it from tklock :D | 22:08 |
| merlin1991 | ah okay .P | 22:09 |
| freemangordon | I am lazy, so I don;t create packaghing from scratch, but copy it from different packages | 22:09 |
| merlin1991 | well tbh dh_make in the fremantle scracthbox suxx big time, so I can understand that :D | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: though we should change the other plugins licensing to LGPL too | 22:10 |
| freemangordon | there is not much(if any) REed code remaining | 22:10 |
| kerio | freemangordon: hypothetically, how hard would it be to load status menu plugins in the powerkey menu? | 22:10 |
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| freemangordon | kerio: impossible | 22:11 |
| kerio | freemangordon: but... they're buttons! | 22:11 |
| kerio | ish! | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | powerkeymenu doe not load plugins | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | *does | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | kerio: those buttons come from /etc/sysui/*.xml | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | *systemui | 22:11 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: I even edit debian/changelog by hand :D:D:D | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | well that is silly | 22:12 |
| merlin1991 | I prefer using dch -i and then adjusting the version | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: well, I am not sure what time offset has vmware cliet | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | *client | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | not to say that mc has pretty good copy/paste functionality | 22:13 |
| merlin1991 | I dunno, my scratchbox is native :D | 22:13 |
| freemangordon | qtcreator too :D | 22:14 |
| freemangordon | (good copy/paste) | 22:14 |
| merlin1991 | vim too ;) | 22:15 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: well, I never ever had any will to use vi/m | 22:16 |
| freemangordon | i switched to mc from nc :P | 22:16 |
| * freemangordon is old, ain't :( | 22:16 | |
| merlin1991 | I started with gedit ;) | 22:17 |
| freemangordon | hehe. I bet you've never heard of ll3 (laplink) and stuff like hand-made R-2R DAC attached to parallel port for sound output :D | 22:18 |
| kerio | freemangordon: so? add some extra buttons | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | kerio: where? | 22:20 |
| freemangordon | kerio: what buttons? what functionality? | 22:21 |
| kerio | load them from plugins | 22:21 |
| freemangordon | kerio: it does not work that way | 22:22 |
| kerio | k :( | 22:22 |
| merlin1991 | freemangordon: well I've heard of them, my father kept telling his story of his first email :D | 22:22 |
| freemangordon | kerio: you need DBus service to "service" those buttons | 22:22 |
| merlin1991 | my glasses just went full retard, the small screw that holds the pad in place which goes on your noes decided to unscrew itself | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, toldya I am old :(:(:( | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | kinda hard to perform surgery on your glasses without glasses | 22:23 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: hehe. use your n900 to zoom :P | 22:23 |
| merlin1991 | the n900 can't battle 5.5 Doptres ;) | 22:24 |
| freemangordon | lol | 22:24 |
| merlin1991 | *Dioptres* | 22:24 |
| kerio | merlin1991: my father is at like -7 on both eyes | 22:25 |
| merlin1991 | 5.5 is more than enough to make you blind without the glasses on :/ | 22:25 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: but how you see what you write ?!? | 22:25 |
| kerio | he usually carries two pairs of glasses, one worn and another in his bag | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | I don't look at the keyboard ;) | 22:26 |
| kerio | he has spares *everywhere* | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: aah, a real developer :P | 22:26 |
| kerio | i only have one pair that i wear, and my old ones that are in a drawer somewhere | 22:26 |
| kerio | but i'm at -1.25/-1.5, so i can get by without | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | also the glasses still sit (somehow) but it's not exactly comfortable | 22:26 |
| freemangordon | merlin1991: are you aware what is the situation with chem|st's SB and -stable? | 22:28 |
| merlin1991 | I have no idea | 22:30 |
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